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« on: Feb 10th, 2004, 11:03pm »
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HOT off "The REAL Feed", this piece looked like the perfect one to kick off a T.O. thread, which we will definitely need, with:
 
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/ne ws/ABN3046342.htm.
 
Great read!  Points out a lot of aspects to the situation and discusses possible destinations.  ENJOY and let's discuss and keep this sucker updated!
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« Reply #1 on: Feb 13th, 2004, 9:19pm »
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Im in a dynasty league and t.o. is on the trading block becuase his owner is over the cap.He wants my 1st rd pick which is #2 overall and jimmy smith. I my self have plenty of cap room to sign my 1st rd pick. should I make the trade or keep the pick and go for larry fitzgerald?
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Re: Terrell Owens tracker
« Reply #2 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 8:58am »
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I would hold out before making any deals.  I would see where Owens and Fitzgerald end up going first, at least.  Actually, only if Owens ends up somewhere where he is auspiciously set up, like Atlanta, Philadelphia or Tampa Bay, or San Francisco for that matter, AND Fitzgerald goes somewhere rather shitty where he'd be entrenched in a potential quagmire at least for a bit, like Oakland, would I perhaps do that deal.  That's a pretty steep price, though, for a guy coming off the type of season Owens is, not to mention it was a contract year when he should have strut his stuff, and no less considering the uncertainty of his destination and how well he will make the transition or fit the new system.  This is all coming from a fellow Owens owner (in the GBRFL).
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« Reply #3 on: Feb 23rd, 2004, 5:31pm »
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Terrell will officially be a free agent.  There was talk out there that he might get tagged.  But no, the 49ers tagged LB Peterson instead.  
 
Where will he land? Baltimore has the most money....  Eagles have the biggest need....  and he T.O. like Miami....
 
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Re: Terrell Owens tracker
« Reply #4 on: Feb 24th, 2004, 2:18am »
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on Feb 23rd, 2004, 5:31pm, DirkDiggler wrote:
Terrell will officially be a free agent.  There was talk out there that he might get tagged.  But no, the 49ers tagged LB Peterson instead.

 
Just doin' my homework...  Here is the confirming report on this from "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/san_franc isco_49ers/8022334.htm.
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Re: Terrell Owens tracker
« Reply #5 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 1:37pm »
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Looks like TO blew his chance at free agency...
 
http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=2179048
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 2:02pm »
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Wow.....Terrell is stuck another 3 years with the 49ers.  Major news.  Definitely changes the scope of free ageny AND the draft!!!  
 
First Northcutt, and now Terrell. UNBELIEVABLE that agents could screw the players this bad.
 
Here is another link in addition to Barnaby's:
 
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7121229
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 2:45pm »
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This is unbelievable.  I'd fire my agent and sue him if I was TO.
 
So, let me understand this.  Since the proper paperwork was not filed, TO still has 3 years remaining on his contract, and if the 49ers want to trade him, the trade partner would have to take on his current contract?
 
This certainly changes things.  I think teams may have been more likely to go after TO as a free agent, but now that they'll have to give something up to get him...?  I don't know...  Wouldn't it be funny if he ended up in SF again (and Garcia agreed to restructure his contract to stay)?  
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 2:59pm »
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Well, at least the team wouldn't have to pay him that outrageous signing bonus he's asking for!
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« Reply #9 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 3:04pm »
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This will give us great stuff to talk about for sure. SF has the upper hand now of course. Maybe now they can deal him to Oak for Woodson and Rice... HA!!!!  
My question is how much will TO count against the cap this year??? This may backfire on SF, and TO may have done it to screw them. They have to cut/redo some deals to fit both Garcia and him under the cap. I don't think he is that smart myself, but now SF who was planning on his $5+MIL cap/salary hit this year to be gone will have to find it before March 3rd. Maybe he did it to push Garcia out and he wins both ways?? I doubt it, could be wrong though.  
This is good for Stegey though who has Rattay and Owens on his team.
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« Reply #10 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 5:03pm »
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on Feb 26th, 2004, 3:04pm, DOLFAN wrote:
This will give us great stuff to talk about for sure. SF has the upper hand now of course. Maybe now they can deal him to Oak for Woodson and Rice... HA!!!!  
My question is how much will TO count against the cap this year??? This may backfire on SF, and TO may have done it to screw them. They have to cut/redo some deals to fit both Garcia and him under the cap. I don't think he is that smart myself, but now SF who was planning on his $5+MIL cap/salary hit this year to be gone will have to find it before March 3rd. Maybe he did it to push Garcia out and he wins both ways?? I doubt it, could be wrong though.  
This is good for Stegey though who has Rattay and Owens on his team.

 
I love a good conspiracy theory!  Anyway, I was wondering the same thing about the cap hit.  It does put SF into a sticky situation.  They franchised Julian Peterson, so they're locked into a top 5 salary with him.  And they gave Barlow a new contract.  So this could really force their hand with Garcia.
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« Reply #11 on: Feb 26th, 2004, 11:37pm »
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T.O. will be a free agent.  The NFL will rule in favor of T.O. and he will be free or the 49ers will cut him making him a free agent.  He will not be on the 49ers next year.  They cannot afford him and they do not want him.  Bill Walsh bashed him on a radio show saying, in effect, that he wasn't worth the money he wants.
 
I will agree with the concensus and say he will end up in Baltimore.  I also will predict that his partner, Tai Streets will end up in Philly.
 
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on Feb 26th, 2004, 11:37pm, PrimeTime wrote:
T.O. will be a free agent.  The NFL will rule in favor of T.O. and he will be free or the 49ers will cut him making him a free agent.  He will not be on the 49ers next year.  They cannot afford him and they do not want him.  Bill Walsh bashed him on a radio show saying, in effect, that he wasn't worth the money he wants.

 
I don't think it is an issue the NFL can address.  He has a contract and there were certain requirements and obligations made that were not fulfilled.  I can't imagine the NFL would get involved in this - it would open too big a can of worms if they told TO and the Niners they could ignore the contract.  I'm not sure the Niners can just cut him either - I'm not sure how that would affect their cap.  I think they'll HAVE to trade him--even if it is for a seventh-round draft choice.
 
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I will agree with the concensus and say he will end up in Baltimore.  I also will predict that his partner, Tai Streets will end up in Philly.

 
I hope Tai Streets doesn't become an Eagle.  Not that I like what they currently have, but Tai Streets isn't much better.  Please give me Justin McCareins.
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« Reply #13 on: Feb 27th, 2004, 7:24pm »
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Philly, sounds like you might get your wish.  Offer in the wings.
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« Reply #14 on: Feb 29th, 2004, 11:44am »
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I put this link in another thread, but in case you didn't see it....Can you picture Owens as a Raider???
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2004/02/2 8/SPGTP5AI861.DTL
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 29th, 2004, 5:09pm »
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I was talking about da raiders as an option the otehr day. Actually I said Owens goes the Raiders and Rice goes back to SF for his swann song.  
KC and Balt are other good options.
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 1st, 2004, 7:44pm »
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New Rumor:
 
Owens and his agent missed the Feb. 21st deadline to void the rest of his contract.  However, TO's original contract gave him until the final day of the 2003 league year to get it done.  The final day of the league year is tomorrow, March 2nd.  But...in their collective bargaining agreement with the players' union, the league put in a ten-day rule.  That made TO's deadline February 21st.  Can they do that?  Can they change the terms of a contract after the fact?  Just void a legal contract because they want to?
 
Veteran free agency starts March 3rd.  Guess they'd better move on this.
 
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« Reply #17 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 6:07pm »
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Owens given permission to seek trade offer!
 
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« Reply #18 on: Mar 2nd, 2004, 8:27pm »
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on Mar 2nd, 2004, 6:07pm, Callie wrote:
Owens given permission to seek trade offer!
 
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2004/03/02/sports1 738EST0387.DTL

 
I think San Fran is giving him permission for a trade because they think Terrell will end up being a free agent.  Might as well try to get something for him.
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« Reply #19 on: Mar 4th, 2004, 4:02pm »
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TO just traded to the Ravens for a 2nd round pick!!
 
Just reported on ESPN too!!!
 
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7142347
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« Reply #20 on: Mar 4th, 2004, 4:55pm »
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If this is true yee haa makes me a happy camper.time to have a beer
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« Reply #21 on: Mar 4th, 2004, 5:13pm »
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Here's the LOCAL report from "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-owens0304,0,5408452.stor y?coll=bal-sports-football.
 
Let me just add, as someone with Terrell Owens on my GBRFL team, this may not seem like a good place for Owens to have gone, but remember that M. Rob and Taylor put up some good numbers in that weak passing offense last year AND Billick has been biting at the bit to get his Minnesota-style vertical game goin'.  Just some food for thought...
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 4th, 2004, 6:00pm »
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Great deal for Balt, terrible deal for TO owners. Balt is a run oriented team. Although CAR managed to have a solid passing game with a run oriented team too.  
I think it will drop Owens value from #3-4 to 7-10, and his production as well.  
I agree with Stegey that Billick has coveted a WR so that he can go to the deep passing game. Owens willl improve the passing attack overall. as far as Taylor and Robinson fab stats last year: you are correct:
1083 yds and 9 Tds...Holy cow...THAT WAS COMBINED!!!!!!!!!!
Owens should do that on his own.  
This move actually hurts both JLew and Owens in 1 feld swoop. The major benefactor here is probably Heap looking at it.
I wish MIA would have pid that price. He is a steal for a 2nd rounder.  
Maybe Minny will trade Moss for a 2nd rounder and a dogsled team.  
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on Mar 4th, 2004, 6:00pm, DOLFAN wrote:
This move actually hurts both JLew and Oens in 1 feld swoop.

 
Any motives behind that claim, fellow GBRFLer? ...
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« Reply #24 on: Mar 4th, 2004, 7:30pm »
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I mispelled T.O's last name. Oops.  
My only motivation would be to try to deal Lewis, which i started when I found out about his drug arrest. I still plan on keeping T.O., but expect lower #s this year. I may deal him if I got a young WR with good upside. He is 30 isn't he? He still has 3-4 more solid years. I'm guessing that most cheatsheets next year will have lowered JLew and Owens on their lists.  
I still like both guys, but how can anybody not say that their stock hasn't dropped.  
Balt has proved nothing at the QB position, except that the play needs to be better.
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