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Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
« Reply #175 on: Sep 22nd, 2006, 10:09pm »
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on Sep 22nd, 2006, 9:07pm, Tony_O wrote:
The only problem is that you show both Rob and I with San Diego's D, but only Rob should have them. I played with the Bills D. The outcomes will not change, but I think I would have more points. I'm ok leaving it like it is, to save you from doing anymore work!

 
No, no, no...  It must be fixed!  Always tell us about this kind of stuff, and the SOONER the BETTER!  And, NOTHING is too small.  If we are told too late, it can really make for a TON of work... untangling shit!  I'm going to take a look at this right now.  And, guys, go through that spreadsheet with a fine-tooth comb, PLEASE!
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on Sep 22nd, 2006, 9:07pm, Tony_O wrote:
The only problem is that you show both Rob and I with San Diego's D, but only Rob should have them. I played with the Bills D. The outcomes will not change, but I think I would have more points. I'm ok leaving it like it is, to save you from doing anymore work!

Hey guys, I'm sorry about that...  It was my bad, 100%. Like Steg said, look over the spreadsheets with a fine tooth comb, and don't be afraid to speak up if a mistake has been made. I do my best to get it right, and double & triple check it before I send it, but things like this can slip through and everything gets jacked.  
 
Time for me to go into lockdown mode and get this shit right!
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Re: GBRFL2 Web Site...
« Reply #177 on: Oct 27th, 2006, 2:42am »
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Guys, on to "real" "business",...
 
I hope our pal Jamo and his family are well.  I have not yet received the results for the week from him, and I unfortunately do not have the time to be dealing with this tonight.  If I end up having to do it this week (there would be some serious irony in that ), I'm not going to be able to get around to it until hopefully tomorrow afternoon my time, night you all's.  In any event, I am going to go ahead and turn over the lineups section now so you all can go ahead and submit your Week 8 lineups.
 
Jamo, if you read this, please fill me in as to what's up!  Again, I hope all is well.
 
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« Reply #178 on: Oct 27th, 2006, 9:21pm »
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Is anyone else having trouble seeing prior year standings?  Every I select a prior year standings link a Hotmail log-in screen appears.  Please let me know if you guys see this.  I wnat to make sure it isn't anything on my end.  Thanks!
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« Reply #179 on: Oct 27th, 2006, 10:38pm »
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Well, boyz, that other damned thread has claimed a casualty, and a big one at that, both from a personal and administrative perspective (but it is what it is). Jamo didn't take too well to a couple things and, as such, has decided to "retire" from the site. That's right... "Poof"... "Gone for good!" Contributing to this, I, for one, wrote...
 
on Oct 23rd, 2006, 2:52am, StegRock wrote:
Thanks for getting my back, Jamo. But, what I've quoted here above,... Arrrgh! ... A geek is something I've never been, and while that doesn't stand for a row of beans to people who only know me via cyber-space and philosophy is choc-a-bloc of them, I cannot deny, (which drives me bananas) I am pretty sure you (and some of you others) know how much I hated the FFToday moniker of FF Geek and that I hate domain names like HuddleGeeks.com. I really dislike that our hobby is tagged with the geek stigma. Bad choice... I would have been more amenable to nerd, even...

 
Given that he was going out on a limb for me, he didn't appreciate what I focused on there. He's got somewhat of a point. I immediately called him this morning and apologized to him about that on his voicemail. But, as I wrote in a subsequent e-mail, "You (like Ken) took my comments totally out of context and proportion (and, obviously, paid no attention to the smilies in that post). That having been said, I am looking for someone to get my back full-heartedly, i.e. not do ANYthing to grate me when doing so,... just put the brass knuckles on and "go to war" with me (you know I don't like the geek shit as it relates to fantasy football from going back to my FFToday days)." The point being, his taking the degree of offense he did from that post above only confirms this guardedness you guys have about getting my back whole-heartedly. Don't get me wrong... That is something I will ponder self-reflectively. But, ALL THINGS considered, don't hold your collective breath thinking I'm going to come to a conclusion you are going to like. I digress... This, more so, just furthers my insight into what you are... I am getting myself into here in this "impatient, short-term-memory, quipy, small-minded, faceless, cold, unpredictable, loose-cannon, machismo-filled, lack-of-gratitude, short-sighted, take-take-take, wildcard, frankly speaking unreal/fantasy" internet environment and the "friends" you... I make in it. I mean... this is a guy who went out of his way to call me just a week ago after realizing about the earthquake, and he just cuts ties like this... Insane! There is something not real about that. In fact, scaling back may not be a bad thing before pressing forward. I mean... this site ultimately ain't goin' anywhere. It's the GBRFL's and mine, and if that's all it is/returns to being, I'm at peace with that. It would be A LOT less work and headaches. That said, I don't see that happening as I'll always press on and do "my thang", and, bottom line, the long-term track-record of the GBRFL and my relationships therein, with people who really intimately know me, including a couple internet guys and friends of friends,... who in some cases (down through the years) have become closer with me than the friend who brought them in,... speak for themselves. Bottom line, you can take this site and all that comes with it, including me, for better or worse, or you can leave it (...as, right now, I feel like doing these stats here for you guys like I'd like to add a hole in my head ). I mean... this site will probably "make it" someday,... but only in that "right" way the GBRFL has. You're either aboard, or you're not. But, the captaining of the ship ain't changing.
 
But, while I feel bad enough about this and what I did to contribute to it, which I obviously, all things considered, should have done a better job of,... based on his message, it was NOT that post of mine that REALLY got under Jamo's skin. It was, quite frankly speaking, the (as I stated, inadvisable) low-blow Jim dealt when he wrote...
 
on Oct 23rd, 2006, 12:18am, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Wow, Tony, thank you for getting my back. I could not agree with you more on what wrote about Walker's post. He should have just minded his own business or just sent me a PM. And, I know WB, I am sure you only stepped up to say something because either A) Steg asked you to, or B) you are still bitter about the baseball league, which by the way everyone is this: 2 owners never paid, so Jamie got shorted some winnings. I can no longer reach these out of state people via email (I no longer have valid emails for them) so I can not collect. I was going to pay him out of my own pocket, but money is very tight around my house right now. After his post here, I no longer care about that. That's okay WB, I hold no real ill will towards you or Steg.

 
First off, just to tease this out... Why should Jamo have minded his business and not (your personal friend) Tony? And, who are you to turn this thing back around on me... us and say YOU hold no real ill-will towards me or us? Why should you? YOU'RE THE ONE WHO STARTED IT, either directly here by saying I can kiss your ass OR indirectly as you admitted by misplacing your anger about the draft lottery. I am... we are... the ones in the position to let you off the hook, not the other way around. That's SO droll, dude! HOWEVER, I think what Jamo took exception to most was your opportunist, apples-and-oranges move and taking this as an opportunity to bring in something else "on your terms", i.e. your not presenting ALL of the key facts, just the ones that put him in a somewhat bad light and shed a good light on you, and, at the end of the day, effectively making him out to be a petty, inconsiderate cheapo while making yourself look like somewhat of a bigger guy... with good intentions, who, though, when it all comes out in the wash, didn't dig down into his pocket and settle the matter.
 
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    on Oct 15th, 2006, 9:33am, Chumpzilla wrote:
    Cold Cash - The amount of money "invested" in a league often keeps all players interested. The more insignificant the amounts (entry/transaction fees), the more likely bottom feeders may become complacent.

     
    on Oct 16th, 2006, 5:00pm, StegRock wrote:
    First off, though this may be a way to mitigate the problem, it does bring with it its own very dirty laundry. But, secondly, I don't think this necessarily gets the job done. If someone competes in NOTHING BUT money leagues and, perhaps, moreover, has the money to blow, I see it coming out in the wash the same way. I don't see this as a "logically necessary" solution.

 
Again, as I tried to communicate in another of my posts over on that damn thread, one really treads on thin ice when opting to take this whole ad hoc, apples-and-oranges tack...
 
on Oct 25th, 2006, 5:47am, StegRock wrote:
Last, and I'm sorry to have suck Jim back into this whole thing as he's bowed out, but I have to respond to this... because I do take exception to it. Jim, you made it a point to explicitly speculate that I put Jamo up to defend me, which isn't a problem in and of itself, BUT, since you did so, makes your words very tendentious since the guy you are thanking for coming to your aid is a personal friend of yours, moreover, one who has, though become a solid member of the site, not had the best relationship with me, notably telling me that he'd have me eating my teeth, and (I hate to bring this up, but I gotta) went out of his way to, as it turns out, erroneously or at least questionably, praise Jeff for not throwing his being right about Mike Bell in my face. So, Tony, where are my kudos for REALLY not throwing it back in Jeff's face, not even uttering a word about it, even though at the end of the day, when it matters, all that bullshit aside, I ended up being right about Mike Bell? But, I didn't and had NO intention to throw it in his face. I digress... Again, is it this en vogue to stomp on my head whenever the chance can be had, even if it might be questionable or even erroneous, but so out of vogue to get my back or throw a little love my way, even when it's clear-cut? (Mind you, I understand, Tony, that you probably haven't even given this a second thought, which isn't a problem in and of itself. But, when you did give it a thought, I was the one pooped on.) In any event, the degree to which Jamo might have been my henchman, Tony, in a sense, surely was yours. Jamo and I have never met, and, mind you, as yous know, Jamo and I have gone at it (over Jimmy C.), but "worked" through it. But, moreover, as yous know, Jamo takes care of the league spreadsheet for me for you guys. I mean I still have to deal with the raw stats, but he does the scoring sheet (the much bigger task). Point is, because of this "behind the scenes" "work" that he does for me, I think,... nay,... know that he has a deep and very tangible appreciation of what I do (behind the scenes and, thus, more so "overall"), and that appreciation is going to increase as he's just taken another burden off my shoulders. Jamo is now also going to be responsible for updating the web pages, the "Results" and "Standings" pages, after doing the spreadsheet. This is also a time-consumer,... and all this stuff is behind the scenes. I bring this up generally in light of the discussion on this thread about my lack of receptivity to new ideas and suggestions vis-a-vis the work "needing" to be done. Guys, in all honesty, and Jamo's training in it will be ongoing for probably quite some time, but JUST breaking gnarly multi-team ties in the standings can take upwards of 30 to 45 minutes and in some extreme cases it has taken an hour, and that's just you all's league. I also have to do my league's. And, while Jamo will be doing all this stuff, I will probably still have to deal with this aspect for quite some time until he gets a reasonable hang of it. The point, though, is, forget about all the "front-end" stuff, the reports, "the Red Zone" and "between the 20's" stuff, and so on and so forth, I'm talking about spending, on average, about 30 minutes a week working pen-to-paper on tie-breaks in the standings of the GBRFLeagues. Friggin' yikes! And,... the MAIN point here,... Jamo is acquiring an ever-greater appreciation of all that, moreover, by way of helping me get the job done, and why can't that be seen as the inspiration of his getting my back, and whatever other speculation that might go to mitigate that be put aside?

 
Either take the time to argue it out or don't, and if you don't have the time for it, don't get into it. The bottom line is that pulling that kind of move is tantamount to mud-slinging and can lead to truly hurt feelings and what has transpired here.
 
That having been said, to the degree that Jamo made this rash decision of his based on my post (about the geek thing) and has stuck me with the load here, that is actually the kind of thing I need to learn about/come to know as this place moves into the future and I have to look at guys as potential co-workers and employees. One day I'm getting a phone call asking if all is okay given the earthquake, and a week later a, perhaps, not entirely sensitive and well-thought-through but, frankly speaking, rather innocuous post of mine gets taken so out of context and proportion as to contribute to a guy's walking away. Let's just say that's a valuable experience to have had as I press forward. I digress... A "parallel" story worth sharing,... back during my college and fraternity days, one of my pledge son's, Jason, a cool, but rather pretentious guy, did something quite selfish and stupid and wound up getting black-balled... by only a couple votes. I came to his defense... BIG-time. Later that night, after being informed, he attempted suicide... It was like proof in the pudding for the guys who saw him as "trouble". Anyway,... still, though, Jim, it was what you wrote that really fucked things up here (yea, Tony, I wrote the f-word,... but I am not (at least the only, I would argue, the main) one who ran Jamo off, which is what is more important than "choice language").
 
Bottom, bottom line,... this bullshit is affecting my real life. I had a Japanese kanji quiz today. I was up bright and early and making great strides. I was at the point of having my cereal and decided to drop on by here and collect my e-mail... only to receive Jamie's. This causes a sequence of heart-palpatating events causing me to put in a couple calls to Jamie and send him an e-mail and, well, just think about this too much. I end up not studying anymore and being late for a class I was going to be very early for, and in the process of hurrying fuck up the quiz, not much. But, the point is that I CARE ABOUT this stuff to a degree that it REALLY affects my "real" life in very "tangible" ways. I CARE and am COMMITTED that much. Again, this IS MY baby. If you can't be generous in your attitude toward me and keep things in perspective, then, for my sake, consider moving on... to one of the run-of-the-mill FF sites where anything goes. And, the ripple effects have just begun. After posting this, I GOT TO dive right into a 90-or-so-minute job of running the stats for THIS fucking league, where I've had a MISERABLE week of being ganged up on and being called an asshole and big jerk and told how to comport myself (as those "playful" comments, like those of sk, always, at the end of the day, tend to be aimed more at me than any of the other tangoers involved). I had my catch-up weekend, two-plus hours of which have already been chewed up on this post, all mapped out. Somehow, in light of the distraction here, I was ahead on my Steg's List work and ready to dive into some reading and paper-writing this weekend, and in one fell swoop here, I have gone from ahead of the ballgame to behind the eight-ball... yet again. This weekend will now largely be eaten up by a scramble to get Jamo's work done and figure out how to fill in the gaping holes Jamo is leaving... has left at my doorstep. And, for what... whom? Potentially, as I am starting to read the tea leaves, for a bunch of dudes who are starting to think that I "owe" them or that they "own" me or my site because of, really, a few bucks they've tossed me over a four-year period. I mean it's got to be the money. As the donations have gone up, so has the hubris while the thank yous and appreciation have gone down. As Jamo said, and he was right, it is NOT I who have changed. I have been the same long-winded fantasy football-philosophy dickhead and good guy, all wrapped into one, since day one. Knowing now better what comes with, really, a few lousy "donation" bucks, relatively speaking,... make no mistakes, all 4+ years considered, this is still an overall "red" effort for me,... guys, you could, as a league, give me $20 each, $200 for the week, and I wouldn't want to do these damn stats I am about to do for yous,... no less possibly for the rest of the damn season. I always had an inkling that fantasy footballers were cheap. By and large, they'd rather have yet another free hoopty at Yahoo! than a cream-of-the-crop, "homemade" Rolls Royce for a few bucks. Moreover, many would rather throw more bucks at the big boys like ESPN and so on than the little guy because of a jealousy for little guy with a site (not that you don't have to be careful with some of these so-called, self-proclaimed "experts"). I hoped that people here were growing out of such an attitude,... and I thought that was slowly happening. But, given the change in (I won't say attitude) "ambience" ever since the donations have picked up (and I've opened a couple "non-profit" pay services),... I wonder...
 
Anyway,... if anybody would like to step up and take on the weekly task of doing the scoring sheet, it is the only thing that will ensure its getting done in a timely fashion week in and week out. If it is left up to me, moreover, if I endure the kind of week with members of this league again in the future,... it's just not, frankly speaking, cannot be a front-burner project. It's going to be about sixth in the queue for me, and that's assuming a smooooooth week. Now, whoever is interested I am going to have to speak with. It's going to take a little in-servicing. The amount of wax from the whole ball I will lay on you will depend on how computer-savvy you are. It would be ideal if the person who stepped up could do the whole job Jamie did here,... but I'll take anything. There is basically one key piece I need done that isn't all too difficult. But, mind you, whatever it is, it is not not going to take a significant chunk of time. I would say you have to pencil in about 45 to 90 minutes a week.
 
So, that's where we stand. I'll do my best... to have the results for the week up tonight... and thereafter as need be if the responsibility falls on my shoulders.
 
By the way, there is also the issue of Jamie's vacating his team. I don't necessarily relish bringing someone new, who doesn't know shit about the system or (how to use) the web site, in mid-season. Again, what do you know? Explaining all that is going to be work on me (and not a little bit for those who think these things happen in a snap; in fact, I'm still explaining now and then details of the system and/or web site and lineup submisssion process to our newest two owners). This week the team is likely just going to sit. I'm thinking I may just run it, at some minimal level or full-on if I can muster up the energy, for the remainder of the season. Or, on second thought, maybe I'll let one of the mother-leaguers take it over for the rest of the season.
 
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« Reply #180 on: Oct 27th, 2006, 10:53pm »
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on Oct 27th, 2006, 9:21pm, Chumpzilla wrote:
Is anyone else having trouble seeing prior year standings? Every I select a prior year standings link a Hotmail log-in screen appears. Please let me know if you guys see this. I wnat to make sure it isn't anything on my end. Thanks!

 
Holy clusterfuck...  More work...  Good pickoff, though...  Yes, there was a problem.  It was a(n unwitting) residual effect of Jamo's taking over the web-page updating last week,... for what's going to amount to all of one damn week,... THE PATHETIC IRONY!  Anyway, it's... fixed... and I'm tired... and still have you all's shit to do,... forget about the rest of my life...
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« Reply #181 on: Oct 27th, 2006, 11:30pm »
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Sorry Steg... I wasn't sure if it was just me.  Thanks for the quick fix.  It wasn't that important... just something I noticed...  Thanks again.
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on Oct 27th, 2006, 10:38pm, StegRock wrote:

 
Anyway,... if anybody would like to step up and take on the weekly task of doing the scoring sheet, it is the only thing that will ensure its getting done in a timely fashion week in and week out.

 
Steg, I am computer savvy and am interested in doing this. I would like to find out what is involved to ensure I can "git-r-done."
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on Oct 27th, 2006, 11:30pm, Chumpzilla wrote:
Sorry Steg... I wasn't sure if it was just me.  Thanks for the quick fix.  It wasn't that important... just something I noticed...  Thanks again.

 
No, nothing is too small, Chumpman...  That's great that you picked that up... I don't mean to be bitchin' at you.  I'm just sick and tired of this place, in all honesty.  When I really think it all through, all things considered,... it's all a bit "unreal" to me...  I still got a mangy, stupid little nappy mutt nippin' at my heals...
 
on Oct 27th, 2006, 11:40pm, Chumpzilla wrote:
Steg, I am computer savvy and am interested in doing this. I would like to find out what is involved to ensure I can "git-r-done."

 
Let me get through this, what is now, shitty weekend and recoup.  This has all put me in a rather "self-sufficient" mood,... one which I am sure I'll "get over" soon enough, though,... if I want to make it through this semester.  Thank you for offering.
 
Just to throw it out there,... is there anyone who also wouldn't mind pitching in on this stuff (and, at least, helping Ray)???
 
...
 
Anyway, "most" importantly, the update for Week 7 is, alas, up! (I just don't have the emotional energy for... )  I'm sorry it's late.  Before I was all finished, I, at the behest of my wife and friends, "let them" drag me away from this shit and go out for the night.  I needed to get away from this place for a few hours, and they knew it...
 
"Enjoy", though, right?
 
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Oh, and also,... PLEASE GO THROUGH THIS WEEK'S EXCEL WORKBOOK WITH A FINE-TOOTH COMB AND MAKE SURE I GOT IT ALL RIGHT!!!  Remember I'm not familiar with you all's rosters, so...
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Just my two cents on Jaime's team......
 
I think someone, like Steve, should submit one line-up for the rest of the season. It should reflect his strongest team in a cascading order. Steve could also submit his week 17 line-up at the end of the season. I think this would be the fairest solution, since every team would face the same line-up. I don't think anybody should add or subtract, via free agent or trade, any player from his team. It is impossible to say what Jaime would have done. Once, the team is given over to somebody full time, which I would assume be the off-season, they can do whatever they like with the roster. A ghost team, for lack of a better term, should not be affectting our weekly free agent pool.
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Although that may be the way we go,... out of necessity,... I firmly believe that the "best" option is to have a competent "interim" (and potential permanent) owner come in rather than just have a ghost ship sailing through your league and limiting/mitigating the competition.  There are no two ways about it.  That's lame.  Are yous afraid of the old Stegger taking over the team (not that I think I can)??? Anyway, I would also like to hear what people in a "different" part of the standings would say.
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If Jamie's team will be operated "as usual" the new owner should be found now.  In that manner the "ghost ship" approach is not used and we aren't using a temporary owner.  Just my two cents.
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on Oct 28th, 2006, 8:49pm, Chumpzilla wrote:
If Jamie's team will be operated "as usual" the new owner should be found now.

 
Again, agreed,... but you guys are speaking pretty much in the "ideal" here.  "Now" isn't very long, mainly given the fact that once I go to bed tonight, I won't wake up until right around game-time, and, furthermore, in a few hours it's going to be the wee hours for you east-coasters and getting late for west-coasters.  As such,... so as not to, effectively, put me under the gun here... and, gasp, give me a little time to consider my options (I'm still in the throws of picking up all the broken glass here, and not just as concerns this league),... I don't think it is unreasonable at all for me to tide this team over for a week (or two) and seek a replacement next week (or over the next two weeks)/decide if I just want to take it over for the duration, which really is the easiest and most painless solution, administratively speaking.  PLEASE, guys,... patience really is going to be a virtue here.  Give your ideas,... but, please, don't put me under the gun... Formulate ideas/proposals that consider me in the equation and, in short, extend over the next week or two,... please.  Thank you in advance for the understanding and cooperation it will take to make this as smooth and easy on me as possible.
 
Also, I still await guys from "other" areas of the standings to chime in...
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on Oct 28th, 2006, 9:01pm, StegRock wrote:

 
decide if I just want to take it over for the duration, which really is the easiest and most painless solution, administratively speaking.

 
Take the easy road here Steve. Go interim this season and we can always find a replacement in the off season. There will be a few good candidates I'm sure.
 
 
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Hey Steve... If you're up to it, I think you taking command of Jamie's team is the best decision. But, knowing your time constraints (and general feelings towards the deuce right now), the next best suggestion is to see if there is a GBRFL owner that is willing to step in as an interim owner (or even permanent, if they have the time and desire) until the off-season.
 
I'd hate to see a first-place team sit idle all season long.
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on Oct 28th, 2006, 10:49pm, Philly wrote:
Hey Steve... If you're up to it, I think you taking command of Jamie's team is the best decision. But, knowing your time constraints (and general feelings towards the deuce right now), the next best suggestion is to see if there is a GBRFL owner that is willing to step in as an interim owner (or even permanent, if they have the time and desire) until the off-season.
 
I'd hate to see a first-place team sit idle all season long.

 
Duly noted, Jeff... and MC! You, Jeff, are right... Not to take away from your suggestion qua suggestion,... I had thought of that, as well.  Your suggesting it does make for more proof in the pudding. I'm thinking I'm going to run it for a week or, perhaps, two if need be, and while doing so float it by them.  ...  Uuuugggghhh...
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I'm all for Steg running it.
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on Oct 28th, 2006, 11:40pm, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I'm all for Steg running it.

Of course you are... then you'd finally be able to unload Ron Dayne in a trade.
 
 
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I truly didn't know that Jaimie's team was in First place. You make me seem like I had and agenda. My bad for not taking more time to research the standings. I was just looking for a quick fix. I could care less. My team still has to be better than the team I play to win. It's your call, Steve, I was just making a suggestion.
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Well,... to be honest with yous,... maybe because it offers me a way to take some of my frustrations out on yous directly and get a head-start in that project to boot,... but I'm gettin' into this idea of takin' this team over and gettin' this done right...  I just put in my first lineup and submit it by e-mail to Steve Warner of the GBRFL, who will act as my "keeping it honest" guy, so to speak,... and I am... ... ARE... YOU... READY???  The Rock is in the house...
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Steve,  
Have you spoken with Jeremy lately? Maybe he would like back in. (thinking down the road)
 
Also, I would gladly help you with whatever, however I'm still a baby trying to figure this whole thing out. If you really need me to tend to something, I'll be down here in the cellar with the rest of the bottem feeders.
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I think you have to look at this and ask "How would this be handled had this happened in the mother league?" Would you allow an owner in the GBRFL2 assume the same role? If the answer is yes, then the path we're heading down seems appropriate. If the answer is no, it seems this should be a short-term (1-2 weeks) solution.
 
I realize GBRFL2'ers have no say in any league decisions. Rule changes are adopted by the "mother league" and passed down on the GBRFL2. In my opinion the same approach should prevail here.
 
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I think you have to look at this and ask "How would this be handled had this happened in the mother league?" Would you allow an owner in the GBRFL2 assume the same role? If the answer is yes, then the path we're heading down seems appropriate. If the answer is no, it seems this should be a short-term (1-2 weeks) solution.

 
(Pardon the frustration, but...) DUDE,... what do you want me to do???  You're really puttin' the squeeze on me here...  I got so much on my plate,... and you want to make this a mind-fuck on me,... moreover,... after I've just expressed that I'm kind of "gettin' into the idea" of playin' with yous...  What... don't you want to play against/with the old Stegger?  I can't get in the league I run!?!?  YIKES!!!  What's the problem with my running the team (for however long I want, for that matter)?  In fact, it's one less dude I've got to worry about.  Are you perhaps making a problem where there isn't one?  Your suggestion, Chumpman, regarding letting a GBRFL2er come in if such happened in the GBRFL is NOT at all analogous (and, given the extreme circumstances here,... and the looong week you guys have put me through, I find, just a touch pretentious).  Are you trying to set me up to have to eat my words or give a GBRFLer privilege entrance into the mother league?  I mean... that's the "effect" of your thoughts there,... which offer no solution, mind you.  And, ESPECIALLY after THIS event, which has definitely and justifiably had a negative effect on my trust of my internet "friends", NOBODY coming from the internet, at this very moment at least, is going to have privilege to enter the GBRFL, my hometown league.  In fact, I have discussed with my "homeboys", in informal conversation, that no more than the two spots in our league, the two currently held by guys who came from the internet, will go to guys from the internet, so...  Of course, that can change.  But, please don't take liberties with my hometown league because I do this for you guys, no less as a result of this fucked-up shit.  I just had a guy act like my best buddy and call me in the aftermath of an earthquake one week and do THIS the next.  Right now, my level of trust in yous is at an all-time low and needs probably quite a bit of time to repair.  In any event,... what the fuck does it matter?  After THIS week, to wake up and come to MY site (I'm sorry, Jeff, all,... I've got to use it here... because in light of a fucked-up situation like this, I should be able to do whatever I want and be "appreciated" for it) and read this is such a slap in the face... even though I am sure you didn't mean it, Ray.   It's just that your post frustrates me, Ray. Do you guys ever just think that, "You know, I wouldn't even be in this league if the old Stegger didn't decide to provide it to us back in the day,... provide this whole damn site for that matter.  Let me let him be to his devices and deal with this.  He usually does a good job of that."???  What would YOUR solution be, anyway,... not just comments,... that would keep the "effort" I'm going to have to put into this (as I'm coming down the wire of the semester) to a minimum???  Oh, and regarding the mother league,... if something like this ever happened, VERY unlikely because we all have met, talk on the phone regularly, know each other, even the internet guys,... I reserve the right to take care of it however I see fit,... period!  ...  Ultimate effect of this post,... my first 35 minutes of life on Sunday morning blown, instead of "going to work" on the free-agents FOR BOTH LEAGUES,... and now I'm not that excited again to get in there and tussle with yous...
 
I apologize in advance for the in-the-face nature of this post, Ray.  But, I got to call it the way I see it.  To me, it was VERY frustrating... "in general", but more so "in context".  It's the kind of thing that makes me wonder why I don't just pack it in.  Is it that difficult to (be) consider(ate of) me and put yourself in my shoes for just a moment when formulating and going to express thoughts, ideas, suggestions, etc.???
 
Okay,... I've got to get to... "work"... (Note to self:  ponder at a later time, "What the fuck am I doing here?  Is this really worth it?")
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Just as a "perspectivizer" vis-a-vis my last (frustration-filled ) post there above,... I JUST NOW, ONE hour into the games, finished the "Transactions" for the week for the two GBRFLeagues, BUT was a bit more "energized" (despite my "feelings" right now about this league) because I, at least, was taking part and not JUST volunteering more of my time...  That's the seeing of the "bigger picture" I seek to encourage... and that I would like to see factored in when "suggestions" are made OR that I would like to see be a cause for pause before deciding to chime in, i.e. first making sure that you've reeeeeally thought what you want to say/propose through sufficiently (especially if you can kind of portend that what you are "suggesting" just might be stepping on my or someone's toes).  Point being,... an analogous story,... I remember back in the day when I was working for Doug Shaw at FootballInsider.com.  If yous don't remember the deal, I was working out of home and sending my written work to him by e-mail.  I was covering like two-thirds of the league's teams.  Anyway, it was a rather smooth relationship (for the season).  But, I remember having had a disagreement with him and getting all riled up and taking like three hours to write a Steggie-esque e-mail to him.  After just writing it and getting it out of my system, I reflected (yea, I know, what (some of) you guys think I don't do enough of,... which isn't even close to being the case) and thought, "You know...  I have a good deal here.  I'm working out of home.  I'm being paid quite well to write.  In the (proverbial) 'bigger picture', what do I REALLY have to complain about?  Yea, this particular matter sucks.  But, do I want to cut off my nose to spite my face and ruin or, at least, taint this good thing I got,... which, truth be said, this guy is providing for me."  I next DELETED the e-mail.  I didn't just not send it.  I made it so I could NEVER send it.  Yous following...???  ...  Anyway, I hope this dose of philosophy is found acceptable, and perhaps even insightful, by the "powers-that-be"...
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« Reply #199 on: Oct 29th, 2006, 6:08pm »
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You know, Ray, I was reflecting on what you wrote there and had an epiphany about where you are trying to go with that.  Incidentally, I had this "epiphany" where I often have them anymore in the bathroom, but this time, more specifically, on the throne... Anyway, while I still take exception to your tack, what I see you as suggesting (between the lines) is why are we not ghost-shipping this thing.  And, while it is a curious point that the two other top teams have suggested this while the rest don't seem to think it is a good idea (regardless as to whether it was intentional or not, Tony, Ray, it is, objectively speaking, a curious point), it is a solution though I don't think a very good one.  Anyway, in fact, this did happen in the GBRFL one time, way back in the day, in 1995.  It didn't happen like this, of course.  It didn't happen with all this ill-will and falderal.  It wasn't good, and when he wanted to return the following year, we didn't let him.  But, it was a very good friend of mine, and, in fact, we did reinstate him two years later (though the vote was VERY close).  Anyway, it was week four, five or six.  I can't remember exactly.  This is back during the ASG days (as per the "History" page at the site).  All this stuff is on paper and back in Jersey.  In any event, we did NOT "ghost-ship" the team.  We had the owner of ASG run it for three or so weeks, and we found a new owner, some guy named Scott, a friend of my boy Danny's.  Incidentally, he didn't return the next year.  But, the point is we didn't let the team go unadministrated, thus, tainting the value of a championship for that season.  I'm sure you guys, deep-down, don't want to do that, either.
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