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1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comments
« on: Jun 22nd, 2008, 4:28am »
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Okay, guys, here is the thread to put comments on.  This very first post is where I will maintain the cumulative running list of picks!  Enjoy, and let's have fun with it!
 
First "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08
1. RB Adrian Peterson - Vikings
2. RB LaDainain Tomlinson - Chargers
3. RB Steven Jackson - Rams
4. RB Joseph Addai - Colts
5. RB Brian Westbrook - Eagles
6. QB Tom Brady - Patriots
7. QB Peyton Manning - Colts
8. WR Randy Moss - Patriots
9. RB Frank Gore - 49ers
10. RB Marion Barber - Cowboys
11. RB Ryan Grant - Packers
12. RB Clinton Portis - Redskins
13.  RB Marshawn Lynch - Bills
14. QB Tony Romo -  Cowboys
15. WR Terrell Owens - Cowboys
16. RB Larry Johnson - Chiefs
17. WR Reggie Wayne - Colts
18. RB Willis McGahee - Ravens
19. WR T. J. Houshmandzadeh - Bengals
20. WR Braylon Edwards - Browns
21. RB Reggie Bush - Saints
22. RB Maurice Jones-Drew - Jaguars
23. WR Andre Johnson - Texans
24. WR Marques Colston - Saints
25. WR Larry Fitzgerald - Cardinals
26. RB Willie Parker - Steelers
27. RB Jamal Lewis - Browns
28. QB Drew Brees - Saints
29. QB Derek Anderson - Browns
30. RB Brandon Jacobs - Giants
31. QB Carson Palmer - Bengals
32. RB Laurence Maroney - Patriots
33. WR Steve Smith - Panthers
34. QB Ben Roethlisberger - Steelers
35. WR Chad Johnson - Bengals
36. WR Torry Holt - Rams
37. TE Antonio Gates - Chargers
38. RB Michael Turner - Falcons
39. RB Selvin Young - Broncos
40. TE Jason Witten - Cowboys
41. RB Ronnie Brown - Dolphins
42. WR Plaxico Burress - Giants
43. RB LenDale White - Titans
44. RB Rudi Johnson - Bengals
45. WR Wes Welker - Patriots
46. RB Thomas Jones - Jets
47. RB Darren McFadden - Raiders
48. WR Anquan Boldin - Cardinals
49. WR Roy Williams - Lions
50. TE Kellen Winslow - Browns
51. RB Julius Jones - Seahawks
52. RB Fred Taylor - Jaguars
53. WR Brandon Marshall - Broncos
54. RB Matt Forte - Bears
55. QB Marc Bulger - Rams
56. RB Earnest Graham - Buccaneers
57. WR Santonio Holmes - Steelers
58. TE Tony Gonzalez - Chiefs
59. QB Matt Hasselbeck - Seahawks
60. WR Calvin Johnson - Lions
61. QB Donovan McNabb - Eagles
62. RB Edgerrin James - Cardinals
63. WR Dwayne Bowe - Chiefs
64. WR Greg Jennings - Packers
65. RB Jonathan Stewart - Panthers
66. RB Deuce McAllister - Saints
67. WR Lee Evans - Bills
68. WR Donald Driver - Packers
69. QB Eli Manning - Giants
70. QB Jay Cutler - Broncos
71. TE Dallas Clark - Colts
72. WR Chris Chambers - Chargers
73. WR Kevin Curtis - Eagles
74. D/ST San Diego Chargers
75. WR Joey Gallloway - Buccaneers
76. RB Kevin Smith - Lions
77. WR Hines Ward - Steelers
78. WR Anthony Gonzalez - Colts
79. QB David Garrard - Jaguars
80. WR Laveranues Coles - Jets
81. RB Ahman Green - Texans
82. WR Donté Stallworth - Browns
83. WR Bernard Berrian - Vikings
84. QB Jake Delhomme - Panthers
85. WR Javon Walker - Raiders
86. D/ST Minnesota Vikings
87. TE Vernon Davis - 49ers
88. QB Vince Young - Titans
89. TE Chris Cooley - Redskins
90. D/ST Dallas Cowboys
91. RB Chris Brown - Texans
92. WR Isaac Bruce - 49ers
93. WR Bobby Engram - Seahawks
94. TE Heath Miller - Steelers
95. D/ST Jacksonville Jaguars
96. QB Matt Schaub - Texans
97. RB Chester Taylor - Vikings
98. WR Marvin Harrison - Colts
99. RB Felix Jones - Cowboys
100. WR Ted Ginn - Dolphins
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 22nd, 2008, 2:53pm »
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SJax at the 3 spot...toss up between him and Westbrook. Brady and Addai were thought of as well.
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Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
« Reply #2 on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 4:38pm »
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Regarding this pick,...
 
on Jun 23rd, 2008, 2:58pm, StegRock wrote:
16. RB Larry Johnson - Chiefs

 
... I just couldn't see him dropping any farther, and, mind you, I'm not a Larry Johnson fan at all.  I just kind of reflected back on Curtis Martin's years under Herm Edwards.  It would look like Martin was done one year, and then he'd win the rushing title the next, and it cannot be said that Johnson's tread is more worn than Martin's was.
 
Incidentally, though, the guy I would have taken next would have been...
 
on Jun 23rd, 2008, 4:11pm, Larsen89 wrote:
17. WR Reggie Wayne - Colts

 

 
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Also, the master rankings list in the initial post of this thread has been brought up-to-date.
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 8:35pm »
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In terms of ADP, I probably took Reggie Bush a few slots earlier than I could have gotten him.  But by the time people start drafting more, he should go higher.  The O-Line is good, and he has hands in a passing game.
 
Edit to Add:  I see Double D took MJD next.  That's the guy I would have taken next.
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 8:44pm »
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WOW, Reggie Bush already?  Over Maurice Jones Drew, Ernest Graham, Rudi Johnson, heck, even Ronnie Brown?
 
What does your crystal ball hold Callie?  You think the Saints are going to give him the ball more? I just do not know what the hell is going to happen in N.O. this year.  If I was to guess, think they are going to have a massive RBBC.  Sadly, Pierre Thomas is even going to take carries from Bush.  
 
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« Reply #5 on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 9:24pm »
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I would have to agree, I've done about a half dozen mock drafts over on sportsline and Mr. Bush NEVER went before the 4th or 5th round.... Think people are a little leary of his durability issues.
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 10:05pm »
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on Jun 23rd, 2008, 8:44pm, DirkDiggler wrote:
WOW, Reggie Bush already?  Over Maurice Jones Drew, Ernest Graham, Rudi Johnson, heck, even Ronnie Brown?
 
What does your crystal ball hold Callie?  You think the Saints are going to give him the ball more? I just do not know what the hell is going to happen in N.O. this year.  If I was to guess, think they are going to have a massive RBBC.  Sadly, Pierre Thomas is even going to take carries from Bush.  
 

 
...or he could be a Westbrook.  Yeah, I think they are going to give him the ball more, ground and/or air.  He's slimmer and through his second year nonsense.  They have the line, they want to pass, and even if he is risk/reward he should be fine.  Buy low.
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Re: 1st "Huddle" Rankings/Mock Draft of '08 - Comm
« Reply #7 on: Jun 24th, 2008, 4:06am »
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First off, the master rankings list in the initial post of this thread have been updated.
 
Now, for some convo...
 
I think the following guys went too high:  Marion Barber by 2 to 10 spots, Marshawn Lynch by a bunch of spots (I don't know if I'd have taken him still; probably soon), Tony Romo by 3 to 7 spots, Reggie Bush by 3 to 5 spots.
 
I think the following guys went too low (thus far):  Reggie Wayne by maybe 2 to 4 spots, Andre Johnson, Marques Colston and Larry Fitzgerald by 2 or 3 spots.
 
I am surprised that no one commented on my pick of Houshmandzadeh... and LJ, the latter if for no other reason than just conversation.
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on Jun 24th, 2008, 4:06am, StegRock wrote:

I think the following guys went too high:  Marion Barber by 2 to 10 spots,  

 
Comparison...you be the judge
 
Addai taken 4th...302 touches just over 1500 yards , 15 TD's
 
Gore taken 9th....313 touches just over 1500 yards , 6 TD's
 
Barber taken 10th....240 touches over 1200 yards , 12 TD's
 
With a departed Jones in Dallas..I would suspect MBIII to receive more touches and I think most analysts would agree with that, I assume you would agree too. Let's just say for arguements sake his total touches jump by 50 this season. His average total yards per game was around 80 I believe. 50 touches should equal to the equivalent of 2-3 games, give or take a few touches. That adds around 200 yards to his total and minimumally 2-4 TD's...we will split that and call it 3.
 
 New math on MBII ..... 290 touches 1400 yards , 15 TD's....Yes I'd take him at 10th overall with those numbers!! Certainly before all the others who were picked after him.
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on Jun 24th, 2008, 4:06am, StegRock wrote:

I am surprised that no one commented on my pick of Houshmandzadeh... and LJ, the latter if for no other reason than just conversation.

 
LJ at 16 is potentially the steal of the draft. If he can stay healthy and return to the LJ we all remember, then people will be wondering how he could have slipped past the Top 5!! As far as Housh goes, there are a few WR's that I would take over him that didn't go. Johnson, Fitzgerald, Edwards for sure...maybe even Colsten.
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Marshawn Lynch:
 
For the sake of convo, as mentioned above.... and all legal stuff thrown out and not taken into consideration which I believe will all be taken care of by the time the season starts, as of now he's not suspended for any games, herefore the rationale.....
 
IMO, #13 is to low for Lynch to go... in 13 games he accumlates 1,115 yds on the ground with 7 tds, now tack on 3 more games.  He was not a factor in the passing game w/only 18 catches for 184....  This WILL drastically change!!!!!  Marshawn is a bar none a Pick #6-#9... I am on the Lynch wagon. and I am going to sit back and watch   him carry my backfield.
 
True I did not take him at #6, this is a rankings mock, and it been a Mock for my team, I would have knocked on Lynch's door.
 
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on Jun 24th, 2008, 2:02pm, MordecaiCourage wrote:

 
Comparison...you be the judge
 
Addai taken 4th...302 touches just over 1500 yards , 15 TD's
 
Gore taken 9th....313 touches just over 1500 yards , 6 TD's
 
Barber taken 10th....240 touches over 1200 yards , 12 TD's
 
With a departed Jones in Dallas..I would suspect MBIII to receive more touches and I think most analysts would agree with that, I assume you would agree too. Let's just say for arguements sake his total touches jump by 50 this season. His average total yards per game was around 80 I believe. 50 touches should equal to the equivalent of 2-3 games, give or take a few touches. That adds around 200 yards to his total and minimumally 2-4 TD's...we will split that and call it 3.
 
 New math on MBII ..... 290 touches 1400 yards , 15 TD's....Yes I'd take him at 10th overall with those numbers!! Certainly before all the others who were picked after him.

 
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on Jun 24th, 2008, 9:16pm, Larsen89 wrote:

 
You have to love those Minnesota boys, don't you Kenny???

 
Well I guess these last couple years in Texas has him finally going in the right direction. Once he was able to knock the "Loser" Minnesota mentality off of himself and figure out how things are done Tejas-style...he's allright now!!
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on Jun 24th, 2008, 9:13pm, Larsen89 wrote:
Marshawn Lynch:
 
 
Marshawn is a bar none a Pick #6-#9...  
 

 
Have to slightly disagree with my old work buddy here. Troubles aside, I think Lynch was taken about right. 6-8 is pushing it a little bit, 9 sounds better, 10-13 sounds correct to me. I think in a regular draft, if for some reason Brady, Manning, and/or Moss were not taken and the 1st round run was on RB's, then you'd have to take him top 10.  
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Yuck!!!!!! So that's how it feels to be the first one in a draft to take a TE when there are still a few solid RB and WR picks left! Never in my life have I been that guy until now. I usually don't touch them until around the 6th round, well after the TE run is over. End up with a 3rd tier guy usually. It was terribly difficult chosing between Gates and Witten here. I actually had Witten typed in but re-thought the pick and changed it.
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Master rankings list in initial posted updated...
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on Jun 23rd, 2008, 10:03am, Larsen89 wrote:
13.  RB Marshawn Lynch - Bills

 
on Jun 25th, 2008, 9:30pm, StegRock wrote:
Oh, brother... Is Brandon Marshall self-destructing or what?  From "The REAL Feed":
 
NFL looking into Bronco's arrest in Atlanta
SLAM! Sports NFL (25.06.2008 20:55)
The NFL is looking into the March 6 arrest of Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall on a misdemeanour battery charge for allegedly hitting his girlfriend.

 
on Jun 25th, 2008, 9:44pm, Larsen89 wrote:
53. WR Brandon Marshall - Broncos

 
Larsman is drafting Team Thug here...
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on Jun 25th, 2008, 10:28pm, StegRock wrote:

 
 
 
Larsman is drafting Team Thug here...

 
 
 
 
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Earnest Graham at 56th...I forgot about him as I suppose many have. I, for one, think he would be a steal here!!
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Could someone throw a friggin' pick up here already???
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Thanks, MC.
 
The Master rankings list in the initial post of this thread has been brought up-to-the-moment!!!
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on Jun 28th, 2008, 10:55pm, StegRock wrote:
Thanks, MC.
 
The Master rankings list in the initial post of this thread has been brought up-to-the-moment!!!

 
I've been waiting too...I did not want to go so soon. I considered Deuce there instead of Stewart, so it was cool to see you place him there.
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I've been waiting too...

 
I understand you were probably doing so to be polite to other participants... because you didn't need to.  I say, at this point, we just got to rip through this... so as it doesn't go on too long and become disjointed... and so we can get on with another one... or two... or three before the season starts.  That's the kind of energy this site is SO in NEED of!
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A few quick hits...
 
First, our Master Rankings list in the initial post of this thread has been updated through the latest pick.
 
Second, let's get this sucker to 100 without having to move away from the regular rule of waiting for two picks before picking again!!!
 
Third, I want to THANK everybody who's participated this year for being so good with the formatting; in my copying-and-pasting on over to the master list, it's been better than ever.
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Let's let MC's pick #76 stand,... but what I said was...
 
on Jun 30th, 2008, 4:39pm, StegRock wrote:
Second, let's get this sucker to 100 without having to move away from the regular rule of waiting for two picks before picking again!!!

 
... let's try NOT to break the rule while getting this thing to 100!!!
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