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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #125 on: Aug 4th, 2009, 3:27pm »
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Well, Phil, the north shore area here doesn't at all seem much worse for the wear.  However, while my mom has told me how wet this summer has been (and the toll it's taken on the tourism industry here), it's been nice since we got in (now, sliding into Indiana on the way here was a whole nother thing... ... ).
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #126 on: Aug 4th, 2009, 8:17pm »
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Sliding through Indiana? Damb it! I hope you meant that you went across I80. Which is Michigan. At least we dont claim it. If you went through the middle of the state.(Through Indy) I will be disappointed. We could have had you for dinner. I dont mean eat you for dinner. The economy isnt that bad. We would have made you a good old Hoosier meal. Too bad. Your loss! Dont you know where your friends are steggie san? Pick up some sweet corn before you leave. Another hint would be to try a tomato while you are here. You havent had one yet unless you got it fresh from here.
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #127 on: Aug 4th, 2009, 11:27pm »
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We slid through Indiana on Route 64, Todd.  When I say "slid", I was referring to a huge storm last Thursday night that basically forced us to pull off in Indiana (not going as far as we would have liked on day one from southern Illinois to the Jersey shore).  Did you guys get that storm up toward Indianapolis?
 
Anyway, I did think of you, Todd, when we were going through that area.  Per messages I had been posting (I understand that for a variety of reasons you have probably been out of the loop here), I was trying to coordinate with people about our meeting en route to either Illinois or thereafter New Jersey (C-Dub, The Rick, Primer and some of my personal buds) before leaving Cali or at least well beforehand.  I never saw a post from you, sk (again, I understand you are not hanging around here waiting for my plans on bated breath, but...).  So, I suppose it is a manner of speaking to say that it was our loss [I'm sure a hot-cooked meal at the Webster household is scrumptous, ... but I'm thinking language more along the lines of its being a loss for both of us is more true to the tale and at least more genteel (for corroboration of sorts on that, see here:  http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=77;a ction=display;num=1244518777.)], but (at any rate) the invite wasn't there for me to act upon.
 
Also, honestly, Todd, I didn't off the top of my head 100% recall that you were in Indy, and in any event I didn't have any digits for you immediately on hand as we were in transit.  ALL of that having been said, I'm guessing we go through Indiana too far south.  Now, that said, looking forward, generally speaking, we're not too far apart...
 
As for the other parts of your message, Jersey too is well known for its sweet corn and tomatoes, but, though that is presently where we are (I can only think that you misread something as it seems from your message that you think we are currently in Indiana ), I'm guessing you're talking about Indy.  That said, we will be going back through Indy the week of the 16th.  We won't have too much time to dilly-dally as classes at SIU commence for me that following Monday and we've still not totally settled in, but,... if Route 64 is not too far south for you, let me know...???  We'll probably be going back through southern Indiana around August 20th.  Well, over and out...
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #128 on: Aug 6th, 2009, 9:21am »
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So close but yet so far. The week of the 16th I will be touring the great state of Pennsylvania. And it wraps around both dates.  
 
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If you are going across I64 and you are observant. And we know that you are. Then you spotted with your keen eye; "Santa Clause" Indiana on your way through. We arent just some cheesey state that names towns after sleigh riding north polians. Santa Clause is home to the great HOLIDAY WORLD. Kiddie land, Huge Water park and roller costers that will kick your ass! The baby might be a problem , but here in hoosierville we just leave the windows cracked open.(Put the wet noodle away. Im just kidding) Holiday world is a must see attraction at the bottom of our fine state.
 
Jersey Tomato's? Seriously!
The Indiana State fair theme is the year of the tomato. At the fair you can get Chocolate covered tomato's, fried Tomatos. Tomato salad bowls. ( Yes, the tomato is the bowl) Ect,Ect. Man, tomato's are Indiana. Just like you wouldnt eat a potato from Illinois if you could get one from Idaho.
 
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #129 on: Aug 6th, 2009, 10:59am »
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Yea, Todd, we had seen a whole show on Santa Claus, Indiana on The Travel Channel some time ago. Great advice, for sure! As we were going across Route 64, we didn't realize we were going to come so close, though. We're DEFINITELY going to hit that up during our time in southern Illinois. My mom is a Christmas addict, so we'll probably make it a family trip someday.
 
As for our getting together, I'm sure or at least I hope, while the Steggies are in the vicinity there, we can make that happen. 'Tis surely our loss the timing was off this time around. With that said, we are going to be pressed for time this time through, anyway. Do enjoy your time touring Pennsy! ... (On that note, though, there is no chance of our bumping into yous for at least a handshake and soda or something on our way back through Pennsy...??? We'll be on that Route 70-76 corridor... )
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #130 on: Aug 8th, 2009, 7:41pm »
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Looks like sk here hasn't enjoyed Jersey tomatoes... Having eaten some in Indiana (up near South Bend) and lots in NJ, I can honestly say NJ has it all over Indy. Same thing with sweet corn.
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #131 on: Aug 8th, 2009, 11:04pm »
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Sorry, sk,... but...
 
on Aug 8th, 2009, 7:41pm, Philly wrote:
Looks like sk here hasn't enjoyed Jersey tomatoes... Having eaten some in Indiana (up near South Bend) and lots in NJ, I can honestly say NJ has it all over Indy. Same thing with sweet corn.

 
Seconded!
 
Jersey, after all, is the "Garden State"!
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #132 on: Aug 20th, 2009, 12:27pm »
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Leaving the Jersey shore... ... Back on the road here shortly...
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #133 on: Aug 23rd, 2009, 11:50am »
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Well, roughly 4,300 miles later and, we (including our little, at the beginning, 8- now 10-month-old, bundle who, I am proud to say, endured and remained very well-behaved throughout IT ALL) are back at SIU!!! Got in last night...  School and "assistantshipping" starts on the morrow... ...
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #134 on: Sep 6th, 2009, 2:21am »
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on Sep 5th, 2009, 3:55pm, StegRock wrote:
As for the Tour de Steg, though the big trip has come and gone, it is getting a little extended leg today as the Stegemans head on over to the Hamiltons' (C-Dub's) for a Labor Day weekend get together at which I'll get to meet Nateman (Takamine) and The Rick, the original of the clan to join on on "the Gridiron"!!!

 
Had a WONDERFUL time at the Hamilton-Gould family gathering at C-Dub's! Learned a new backyard game today:  "washers".  Best I can describe it, it's a hybrid of mini-golf, tiddlywinks and horseshoes.  Bottom line,... looooove it!!! I may be taking my undefeated record on tour here soon,... per the ESPN contract I've been offered. But, I digress... What a lovely family!  There weren't too many outside friends there,... not that they made you feel that way, anyway.  Moreover, what a spread! One of their relatives, uncle Scott I'll call him, worked his tail off making pizzas for everyone.  Oh, my goodness... These were outragous.  I've NEVER had such good homemade pizza in my life,... and, as yous know, I'm from New Jersey where pizza parlors are temples and eating pizza is a religious experience.  Anyway, great eats; great time!  Dubs did try to goad me into gorging the last shrimp, though.  It was a, if you will, fishy move.  I could see the post already...  "Steg crashes the family get-together and goes and downs the last shrimp... right in front of my little niece 'Tiny Tina', who, in a 'make a wish foundation' request once wrote that 'all I've ever wanted was to eat the last shrimp.'" I'd have never lived it down.  Suffice it to say, I didn't take the bait,... the shrimp that is...
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #135 on: Feb 26th, 2010, 2:10pm »
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The answer to the original question posed, at the moment at least, is 4:00 (CST) today...  Just thought I'd share this with you all...
 
http://www.internetstitute.com/AgoraFlyer.pdf (Scroll down to today, February 26th!)
 
I'm presenting that "self" paper that I think I've made mention of here before.  Anyway,... here's to hoping all goes well...
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« Reply #136 on: Feb 26th, 2010, 8:45pm »
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on Feb 26th, 2010, 2:10pm, StegRock wrote:
The answer to the original question posed, at the moment at least, is 4:00 (CST) today... Just thought I'd share this with you all...
 
http://www.internetstitute.com/AgoraFlyer.pdf (Scroll down to today, February 26th!)
 
I'm presenting that "self" paper that I think I've made mention of here before. Anyway,... here's to hoping all goes well...

 
Hope all went well.....subjectively and objectively speaking  
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #137 on: Mar 3rd, 2010, 1:52pm »
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Thanks for the kind words, Double D!  Went very well!  A crowd of over 30 attended!  Great learning experience both philosophically in terms of insights had afterwards and logistically as it relates to getting my ideas across.  Definitely got people talkin' and thinkin'!  Incidentally, Gridironer Chuck Hamilton a.k.a. cwhams was actually in attendence!  Boy, that meant A LOT to me!  Thanks a bunch, friend!
 
Anyway, Stevo, loved this...
 
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Re: What time is Karma 101 with Prof Steegie-San
« Reply #138 on: Apr 10th, 2010, 11:37pm »
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I'm not just looking forward anymore, but really moving forward...  I've finally been called to the mound...  To see what I mean, click the link below; choose "Fall 2010" from the drop-down menu and click the button; choose "Philosophy" from the topmost drop-down menu on the next page and click the button, and finally on the page you are taken to just scroll down a hair to the second section of "Introduction to Philosophy"...
 
https://opal.rocks.siu.edu/prod/bwckschd.p_disp_dyn_sched.
 
Who be that guy teachin' that second section?
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« Reply #139 on: Jun 18th, 2010, 12:29am »
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Heya'll! Didn't mention this because I actually did not firm up my plans to go until just this week. That is plane ticks and all. Anyway, headin' back to Cali tomorrow (Friday) to do my "philosophy of the subject" dance at the annual conference of the Society of Asian and Comparative Philosophy:
 
http://www.sacpweb.org/conferences/programs/2010ConferenceProgram.pdf.
 
I'm scheduled for 10:45 (in the big room, actually ) on Saturday, June 19th, Father's Day and my mom's B-day!
 
At any rate, I'll be back on Wednesday and planning to kick it into a bit of a higher gear here.
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« Reply #140 on: Jun 18th, 2010, 3:51am »
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CONGRATS Steve! Knock 'em dead!!!
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« Reply #141 on: Jun 26th, 2010, 6:02pm »
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Thanks, Joe, for the words of support...  I don't know if I left 'em dead, but I definitely "broke a leg"... It went very well.  I was on, especially during the Q&A session, which is really the key to having a good showing on these academic conference panels.
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on Apr 10th, 2010, 11:37pm, StegRock wrote:
I'm not just looking forward anymore, but really moving forward... I've finally been called to the mound... To see what I mean, click the link below; choose "Fall 2010" from the drop-down menu and click the button; choose "Philosophy" from the topmost drop-down menu on the next page and click the button, and finally on the page you are taken to just scroll down a hair to the second section of "Introduction to Philosophy"...
 
https://opal.rocks.siu.edu/prod/bwckschd.p_disp_dyn_sched.
 
Who be that guy teachin' that second section?

 
Here we go, fellas...  Professional side of my academic career is finally kicking off on the morrow!  Wish me luck!
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on Aug 22nd, 2010, 11:04pm, StegRock wrote:

 
Here we go, fellas... Professional side of my academic career is finally kicking off on the morrow! Wish me luck!

 
 
Best of luck! I hope know all will go well!!!!!
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« Reply #144 on: Aug 23rd, 2010, 4:09pm »
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Mr. (excuse me) PROFESSOR Stegeman,
 
Huge congrats on the first of many, many more lectures to come in your career. Today is truly a great, significant corner of the foundation you have been building.
 
Hopefully you did take my advice and have a pop quiz today worth 50% of the final grade.
 
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« Reply #145 on: Aug 23rd, 2010, 10:41pm »
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Thanks for the well wishes and way too kind words, Stevo, Markie!  I'm still not really a prof yet...  Officially, I'm an instructor.
 
Anyway, what a day it was!!! WAAAAAY ready for this day!  Knocked it out of the park! Day one intro class, and I held 'em for the whole 50 minutes... and taught. Told 'em up front I was going to.  They started with a sigh, ended on bated breath!  No kidding!  If and when I talk to yous, I'll share some of the wonderful details, most notably a handful of comments made to me and aloud at the end of class as the students departed.  UNbelievable!  I'm where I need to be.  I'm reveling for the moment, but need to gear back up soon... for the long haul... of a career.
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« Reply #146 on: Sep 25th, 2010, 12:46am »
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Didn't let yous guys know about this until now because I really was unsure I'd be making the trip.  But, I've gotten sufficient funding to make it worth it,... and,... well,... the Steggie show's goin' INTERNATIONAL... And, it's a country that starts with "Chi...", but it's not China. Check it out:  http://www.internetstitute.com/afiche(2).doc.  CRAZY, huh???  A little less than a month from now, I'll be kickin' it in Santiago, Chile.  I actually still cannot believe this rarified group wants to hear me out on the issue of "Divine Omniscience and Divine Foreknowledge, not of the Same Species" (the title of my presentation).  Here is the abstract if you are interested:  http://www.internetstitute.com/FreedomandOmniscience.pdf.
 
Anyway, all else is going wonderfully.  LOVE teachin'.  My Intro class is going outstandingly!  Well, peace out...
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Wow, Congrats!!! That is pretty incredible that you have been selected to attend the conference AND that you were able to obtain the funding.
 
I read the abstract this morning, but I am not sure I fully (emphasize the word FULLY) understood it. I am going to go back and read it again later today or tomorrow and give it another shot. I think since I am not a philosopher that I am at a disadvantage.
 
Ashes to ashes and dust to dust.........
 
I find it interesting that in your Bible references, you quote at least 3 books of the prophets, Isiah, Daniel, and Jeremiah. Beiong prophets, and what they said was to come true, does that mean they knew the choices man would make or what God had ordained OR that God used the prophets to give a hint of what was to come?
 
 
Update: Just went and re-read the abstract and the bible versus. They definitely help tie it together for me.
 
By the way, Jeremiah 16:17 is pretty telling, God sees all, so don't bother to try to hide as does Psalms 94.
 
I do find it interesting!!
 
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Wow, Congrats!!! That is pretty incredible that you have been selected to attend the conference AND that you were able to obtain the funding.

 
Thank you for the words of support, Stevo! With the trip only a few days away at this point, I am very excited. Looks, too, with the wonderful news coming out of Chile, that I'll be visiting a country full of happy and relieved people!
 
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Being prophets, and what they said was to come true, does that mean they knew the choices man would make or what God had ordained OR that God used the prophets to give a hint of what was to come?

 
I know you gave it some more thought, Steve, and narrowed the gap on your own, but I'd still like to submit my thoughts on the matter. First, let me address the first disjunct (or) within your larger disjunct. It's all coming from God. The question is what is the characterization of that (Divine) foreknowledge (to which the prophets had access). My argument is that in the Bible there are really, at least arguably, only two kinds: 1) Divine extrapolation (from the past and present about which God knows all, both outer circumstances and what is in the hearts of men, and which is thus going to be at a level unfathomable to us, whose knowledge of the past and present is infinitesimally infinitesimal in comparison) and 2) Divine intention (where it's like when you know what you are going to do in a way that you don't know what someone else is going to do, but, of course, in the case of Divinity, we are in the hands of God, and then it's up to you how extreme you want to take that view). Point being, while God's omniscience of the past and present is presented in the Bible as absolute, God's knowledge of the future is not presented with such precision. The ultimate point is that Divine extrapolation and Divine intention do not, strictly speaking, require God's knowledge of the future to be absolute. In other words, God's foreknowledge is characterized by Divine extrapolation and, moreover, mainly Divine intention or plan, not, strictly speaking, Divine foresight/foreseeing [as if the temporal has all been laid out (which seems to belie the definition of temporality) in front of this atemporal, eternal Divine Being; it's as if the understanding had to be that, if God is eternal and not within time, God must be able to know the future just like the past and present, meaning that it could NOT have been the case that God created time outside of time, but still as such, though with A LOT of insight into and power over it]. In this case - and this is the thesis and main point of my paper and presentation - there is room for human freedom and free-will (and for that matter Divine sovereignty/freedom).
 
Now, as for the bigger disjunct (OR) in your question, from the above it follows that I think it is the latter because God's foreknowledge, though really great and unfathomably expansive, is not absolutely absolute, though, further narrowing the corridor (of human freedom and free-will), God's ultimate plan/intention may be.
 
I have to admit that this was helpful for me moving forward toward my departure for the conference. I hope it was helpful to you, Steve, and any other readers who happen to be peeking in.
 
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Now, on a totally different but also somewhat related point - the international Steggies - I have some other news particularly relevant to the GBRFL guys... Not entirely without cause, which not the least of which is related to the reality that my wife's parents have not seen their daughter, my wife, for five-and-a-half years and my daughter has never met her grandfather, Gino and Monica Marie are headed to South Korea this Saturday for a month. This has all been in the works for some time. So, anyway, we've got a big few days with a lot of movement going on here in the Stegeman household at the moment. I'm going to miss the girls, but I've got a big week myself next week to distract me, and the reasons for their going are, as they say, all good.
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« Reply #149 on: Oct 18th, 2010, 11:31am »
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Okay, guys, asta...  It's on to the International Academy of Philosophy and Santiago, Chile!!!  See yous on the come-around!!!
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