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« on: Jan 24th, 2003, 11:23am »
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2003/01/23/nflpa_overtime _ap/.
 
Is it gonna' take the Super Bowl going into overtime and having the team who gets the ball first win on their first possession for them to change the format? I, for one, am for both teams getting the opportunity to touch the ball on offense in OT. But, like the article, I really don't like the college format. How about you all?
 
Also, I LOVE seeing the "issue" of "diversity" among NFL head coaches getting the attention it deserves in this piece!
 
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Re: Overtime
« Reply #1 on: Jan 24th, 2003, 11:33am »
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I also would like to see a change in the overtime format.
 
 
Let team A have the ball first. If they score and Team B does not when they get the ball, then A wins. If A scores a touchdown, then B scores a touchdown, then A gets it again. If A kicks a field goal, then B scores a td, then B wins. Simple, but better than what they have now.
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Re: Overtime
« Reply #2 on: Jan 24th, 2003, 11:36am »
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I will be interesting to see what the committe comes up with re. kick offs.  I don't have any problem with the college format.  If I interpreted Upshaws comment in regard to the front office I think he is right on the mark. The best caindidate for the job should get the job regardless.
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Re: Overtime
« Reply #3 on: Jan 24th, 2003, 10:02pm »
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on Jan 24th, 2003, 11:33am, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Let team A have the ball first. If they score and Team B does not when they get the ball, then A wins. If A scores a touchdown, then B scores a touchdown, then A gets it again. If A kicks a field goal, then B scores a td, then B wins. Simple, but better than what they have now.

I agree 100%. It ridiculous, every time the team I'm rooting for goes into OT, I'm always praying that they win the coin toss, the COIN TOSS! Are you kidding me? What the hell does the flip of a coin have to do with a football game? Let the players decide the outcome and give them both an equal opportunity. I heard the owners might be against it because it could dramatically increase the length of the games, therefore increasing the odds of player injury... Hey, you could get hurt walking down the stairs in your own house, or slipping on your buddy's driveway or reaching for the phone.
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Re: Overtime
« Reply #4 on: Jan 24th, 2003, 10:45pm »
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on Jan 24th, 2003, 10:02pm, Walker_Boh wrote:
I heard the owners might be against it because it could dramatically increase the length of the games, therefore increasing the odds of player injury...

 
It also would make for MORE FANTASY STATS!
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Re: Overtime
« Reply #5 on: Jan 25th, 2003, 1:34pm »
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on Jan 24th, 2003, 10:45pm, StegRock wrote:

 
It also would make for MORE FANTASY STATS!

 
It also would make for more injuries.
 
The overtime format is fine as it is for the Regular Season. Though I do agree for an overtime format change for the playoffs.
 
The regular season overtime format should stay exactly how it is.
 
That's my four cents...
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Re: Overtime &...
« Reply #6 on: Jan 25th, 2003, 1:44pm »
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Here is what Tagliabue thinks on a range of "issues of the day" including changing the format of overtime:
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2003/01/24/commissioner_s tate_ap/
 
Here's a summary:
 
New Overtime Format -
 
Changing Officiating -
 
Expansion within the next decade -
 
BUT, preferance to L. A. if they built a "sweet-ass" stadium -
 
Cold-weather Super Bowl -
 
Criticisms of the Cowboys and Jaguars for not looking sufficiently at minority options -
 
Expanding the number of teams that make the playoffs -
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Re: Overtime &...
« Reply #7 on: Feb 6th, 2003, 1:33pm »
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Here is the latest out of ESPN, especially with regards to how overtime might get revamped by the competition committee set to meet next month in Phoenix, Arizona:
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/pasquarelli_len/1504220.html.
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Re: Overtime &...
« Reply #8 on: Feb 7th, 2003, 11:56am »
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Here's my take:
   
Regular Season - NO OVERTIME- a tie is a tie- if you can't beat someone in the regulation time then you don't deserve to "get lucky" and should have taken more risks during the game to avoid being tied.  If this were used and ties were needed to be broken for playoff spots then something would need to be in place, i.e. - divisional records, 1st downs, something.
 
Playoffs - Alternate possessions- like college/high school except have kickoffs/returns rather than placing the ball  
 
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Re: Overtime &...
« Reply #9 on: Feb 20th, 2003, 1:16pm »
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Well, some coaches want "Overtime" only to be tweaked a little bit according to this piece from ESPN.com:
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0220/1511695.html.
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Re: Change in Playoff & Overtime format!?!?
« Reply #10 on: Mar 18th, 2003, 2:05pm »
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What is up with this? A 7-team playoff format likely to be approved. Meanwhile, the overtime issue, which was such a hot topic, is looking like it is going to die. Here is the short of it from CNN/SI:
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2003/03/18/nfl_playoffs_a p/.
 
Here's the extended Associated Press report from "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://www.silive.com/sportsflash/football/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_stor y.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?s0271_BC_FBN--ExpandedPlayoffs&&sports&sportsflash-football.
 
And, here's the REAL DEAL, the original report, from "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/68093p-63356c.html.
 
14 teams to be in the playoffs. I really dislike this trend of playoff inflation. Granted, the old 4-team playoffs of baseball might have been a little too hardcore, but basketball and hockey, where like over half the league makes the playoffs, fuckin' yucky. I do NOT want football to go in that direction.
 
As for the overtime issue, I, for one, would have liked to see them do something. Oh, well!
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Re: Change in Playoff & Overtime format!?!?
« Reply #11 on: Mar 25th, 2003, 1:44pm »
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Talk of adding teams to the playoffs is heating up.  THANK GOODNESS it does not seem it will be passed this year.  In short, the first consideration is to add one team to both of the conference playoffs, raising the number of teams to seven in both and 14 overall.  Moreover, Chiefs team owner Lamar Hunt wants two teams to be added, bringing the total to eight teams in both and 16 overall, i.e. HALF OF THE LEAGUE. Here is the word out of CNN/SI, ESPN and "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/don_banks/news/2003/03/24/b anks_insider/;
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0324/1528933.html;
 
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city _chiefs/5473137.htm.
 
The argument that supporters of adding more teams to the playoffs make that really gets under my skin is the one that contends that the top seeds get a grossly unfair advantage by getting the Week 1 bye.  But, on the contrary, isn't that the advantage they have earned?  Way back, wasn't that part of the rationale behind structuring the playoffs thusly?  I mean I do not really know the answer to that second question.  But, that is the "de facto" impression I have always had, and I liked the idea.  Does anybody know the "actual" answer?
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Re: Change in Playoff & Overtime format!?!?
« Reply #12 on: Mar 25th, 2003, 3:44pm »
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Part of the allure of football is that, with only 16 regular season games, every single one is important.  We all know that what a hockey team does October-February is irrelevant as long as they get hot come March.
 
By adding playoff teams, the games become less important.  I think it should be left at 6 teams.  The system works.
 
As far as overtime is concerned, Philly sports radio was looking for possible changes in a discussion by the mid-day hosts.  The best one I heard was that the first team to score 6 points (one TD, 2 FGs, 3 safeties, any combo) in OT wins.  That way there wouldn't be a team winning the coin toss, driving 20 yards and kicking a field goal to win.  They could kick the field goal, but then they'd still need another 3 points to get their 6 to win.  The only drawback was that the team winning the coin toss could still return the kickoff for a TD, thus giving the other team no chance to win.
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Re: Change in Playoff & Overtime format!?!?
« Reply #13 on: Mar 25th, 2003, 7:04pm »
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Looks like another change will occur... this time has to do with the referees. No longer will they hand pick the "best" refs of the season, instead they'll keep the regular season refs intact and just assign ref teams to the games, not separate individuals who maybe had not officiated a game together during the regular season.
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0325/1529300.html
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Re: Change in Playoff & Overtime format!?!?
« Reply #14 on: Mar 26th, 2003, 3:20pm »
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Looks like the owners are to scared to make the change in the OT rules. Dummies...  
 
 
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/6278702
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Re: Change in Playoff & Overtime format!?!?
« Reply #15 on: Mar 27th, 2003, 8:14am »
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I'm glad they didn't change the playoff format.  
 
Keeping the officiating crews together makes sense.
 
Not changing the OT rules is a mistake. Sudden death sucks.
 
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Re: Changes in Playoffs, Overtime, On-sides kicks!
« Reply #16 on: Mar 27th, 2003, 12:20pm »
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Here's kind of the last of the news coming out, for this round at least:
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/news/2003/03/26/owners_meeting _ap/;
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayton_john/1530103.html.
 
They tweaked the rules for on-sides kicks... within the last five minutes of a game.  Any thoughts?  I actually kind of like it! But, I am SO disappointed with their lack of courage to change the overtime format and their entertaining adding more playoff teams that it is hard for me to give any of them any credit for anything.
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Re: Changes in Playoffs, Overtime, On-sides kicks!
« Reply #17 on: Apr 1st, 2003, 3:03pm »
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Linked to as one of the many "straight to the source" links on "the Gridiron Newsstand", CNN/SI's Peter King gives his take on the overtime issue.  Summary of his take - and I, as many of us here on "the Gridiron" do, agree!  Here is the piece:
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/peter_king/news/2003/03/31/ mmqb/.
 
It's a great read, especially the meat of the piece regarding the "Overtime Issue".  Enjoy!
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Re: Changes in Playoffs, Overtime, On-sides kicks!
« Reply #18 on: May 19th, 2003, 7:13pm »
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Well, it's currently topping "The REAL Feed"... the NFL owners are at it yet again... going to be talking about expanding the playoffs again come this weekend!
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I agree with the majority here: don't add any more playoff teams. The problem is I think they will eventually add two more teams. It all boils down to  . That means more games, more people, more TV ratings, etc...
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Re: Changes in Playoffs, Overtime, On-sides kicks!
« Reply #20 on: May 23rd, 2003, 12:07am »
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GOOD NEWS!  They are not changing the playoff format, at least not this year! Here is the "good news" gotten by way of "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://nfl.com/news/story/6384362.
 
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Re: Changes in Playoffs, Overtime, On-sides kicks!
« Reply #21 on: Mar 30th, 2004, 12:59am »
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Well, here is the latest from "The REAL Feed" on the league's considering adding teams to the playoffs:
 
League considers adding playoff teams
SI.com: NFL (30.03.2004 00:13)
 
They say that it's possible. ...
 
It's funny... Jeff and I just brought this issue up earlier in the chatroom.
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« Reply #22 on: Mar 30th, 2004, 9:02am »
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I can understand why the team owners want it, but I'm not sure that the league is in favor of it.  I know, as a fan, I'm not interested in more teams making the play-offs as that will only make the regular season less important.  Imagine how meaningless the Arizona Cardinals victory over the Vikings in 2003 would have been.
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« Reply #23 on: Mar 30th, 2004, 9:12am »
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The playoffs are watered down enough as it is.I believe half of the teams in the league make the playoffs already,isnt that enough?
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« Reply #24 on: Mar 30th, 2004, 9:34am »
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I think the number they have right now is just about right.  12 of the 32 teams make the play-offs under the current system (four division winners + 2 wildcards in each conference).
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