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NFL Hall of Fame Thread
« on: Mar 5th, 2003, 3:10pm »
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VERY early to be starting this discussion, but I thought I would post it anyway as the two mentioned in the piece are two of my favorites, especially that there QB , and absolutely undisputed "all-timers" of my generation, i.e. that I can identify with... of my time:
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0305/1518679.html.
 
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Re: 2004 NFL Hall of Fame Nominees
« Reply #1 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 9:20pm »
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Well, I knew a thread about the (potential) 2004 HOF nominees would be coming soon.  So, in the effort to deter the proliferation of redundant threads, I thought I would bring this one back up with this link specifically regarding the nominations of my boy Johnny and sweet-feet Barry :
 
http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/ne ws/ABN2834425.htm.
 
Let the discussions about who should and should not be in the HOF Class of '04 begin...
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Re: 2004 NFL Hall of Fame Nominees
« Reply #2 on: Nov 12th, 2003, 4:42pm »
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Here's the latest from "The REAL Feed":
 
Elway, Sanders among HOF semifinalists
NFL.com (12.11.2003 15:48)
John Elway and Barry Sanders, both in their first year of eligibility, head the list of 25 semifinalists for induction to the Pro Football Hall of Fame 2004.

 
Here is a link to the piece:
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6826365.
 
Any thoughts about any of this, fellas?
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Re: 2004 NFL Hall of Fame Inductees
« Reply #3 on: Jul 11th, 2004, 11:49pm »
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As a Broncomaniac , who likes both John Elway and Dan Reeves, this story currently topping "The REAL Feed" made my week:
 
Elway mends fences with former coach Reeves
ESPN: NFL (11.07.2004 22:07)
Elway invites former coach to Hall inductionDENVER -- With his induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame approaching, former Denver Broncos quarterback John Elway has reconciled with former coach Dan Reeves, with whom he famously sparred.The healing began after Elway invited Reeves to the indu...

 
Way to go, John! Way to take the high road! (That's me offering up my wife to the man. )
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Re: NFL Hall of Fame Inductees
« Reply #4 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 1:34pm »
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2005 Hall of Fame Induction Ceremonies resources from off "The REAL Feed":
 
Pro Football Hall of Fame Thumbnails
SI.com: NFL (06.08.2005 19:19)
 
Hall of Fame Members
SI.com: NFL (06.08.2005 19:18)
 
Hall of Fame List
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Re: NFL Hall of Fame Inductees
« Reply #5 on: Aug 7th, 2005, 11:22pm »
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Boy did Steve Young say a mouthful in his acceptance speech today...  With all my contemplation, I never thought of this...  He elucidated in what respect American football is the greatest sport.  That is that it is the ultimate team sport.  No play in football, unlike baseball, basketball, hockey or soccer, is performed alone.  As he put it, nobody scores a touchdown all by himself.  Every play in football involves the coordinated action of multiple players.  Defense, even more so, is really all about the execution of the unit as opposed to the individual players:  vis-a-vis other sports, one guy's missing an assignment can cause the defense to break down, but one player alone cannot make a defense.  ...  In this respect, doesn't football better than any other sport reflect real life?  Isn't that what real life is all about?  Nothing is done alone in this world... nothing!  We are all interconnected and every moment of our lives we depend on an uncountable number of other human beings.
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Re: NFL Hall of Fame Thread
« Reply #6 on: Aug 25th, 2005, 12:56am »
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I think this is GREAT news...  From "The REAL Feed":
 
Madden among Hall of Fame finalists (AP)
Yahoo! News: Democratic Party (24.08.2005 18:53)
John Madden, a legendary coach and one of the NFL's best-known television personalities, was named a finalist on Wednesday for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, along with former Dallas Cowboys offensive tackle Rayfield Wright. The two, chosen by the Hall's seniors committee, will be joined by 13 o...

 
Madden's still not being in the Hall is "maddening"... Really, though,... you may be of the persuasion that find his football-game commentary rather inane at this point of his career; I am NOT of that opinion, mind you, but he deserves to be in the Hall from the perspective of both his coaching and his broadcasting.
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Re: NFL Hall of Fame Thread
« Reply #7 on: Oct 28th, 2005, 6:26pm »
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Next up...  From "The REAL Feed":
 
Reggie White, Aikman among 112 Hall candidates
ESPN: NFL (28.10.2005 14:46)
Reggie White, Aikman among 112 Hall candidates by Associated PressCANTON, Ohio -- Reggie White, a two-time NFL defensive player of the year who died last year at 43, heads a list of players, coaches and contributors eligible for induction in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. White is eligible fo...

 
So, who do yous think (really) deserves it in '06... among the headliners, among them all, among those yet again not making the cut???
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Re: NFL Hall of Fame Thread
« Reply #8 on: Oct 28th, 2005, 7:39pm »
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Well, its a no brainer that White gets in this year.  But I hope Aikman doesn't make it.  
 
Don't get me wrong, just because I DESPISE the cowboys, long before the jimmy johnson years, doesn't mean i don't respect the player that Aikman was.
 
He was good, but so was the REST of the team.  I say just make one special bi-annual year for the Hall and induct the whole '93-94 Cowboys team.
 
My vote personally is for Thurman Thomas.  They already got Jim Kelly in there, its Thurmans time now.  The pure power and speed that Thurman had was second to none during his years with the Bills.  And a HUGE reason why they made it to the superbowl 4 years in a row.  
 
I'm sure Thurman and Kelly have their own little Norwood Voodoo doll and stick him every day for the rest  of their lives.
 
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 28th, 2005, 7:58pm »
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Troy Aikman WILL be a first-ballot inductee into the NFL Hall of Fame!
Aikman was an OUTSTANDING Field General! You can muster all the talent you want, but if you don't have an on-the-field leader you're NOT going to win championships! Troy Aikman was that leader. You can say all you want about Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, the Offensive Line, the great "D", whatever...it was ALWAYS Aikman's team. Nobody on the team ever disputed that. I don't know if it's still true, but at one time, Aikman had the highest post-season passer rating in history! He always took it to a new level in the playoffs. Aikman deserves to be in the HOF along with all of the aforementioned players from those Dallas "Glory Years!" And 3 SUPER BOWL Championships in 4 years goes a long way towards earning votes! How many rings did Kelly and Thomas retire with? No disrespect intended, they were great players in their own rights, but they never did win "the BIG one." God Bless Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Jimmy Johnson, "Moose" Johnston....etc...etc...
 
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Re: NFL Hall of Fame Thread
« Reply #10 on: Oct 28th, 2005, 11:44pm »
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Aikmen will be a first ballot inductee.  Thats almost as much as a given as White.  
 
With that said, you can't "win" the big one without a supporting cast.  The Bills at least got there 4 yrs in a row with a whole squad of practically no namers.  
 
The Cowboys are like the Yankees of Football.  They were the most profitable (at that time) biggest salary, and most talented.  Like I said, they should just induct the whole damn squad in a special HOF induction.
 
Thurman Thomas, Jim Kelly, and Andre Reed (who also is on the ballot this year) were pretty much the Buffalo Bills.  The whole team damn near rode on their backs.
 
I guess I'm a sucker for the underdog.  Yea, Aikman was the "leader" of the team.  Jim Kelly also was inducted on his first ballot, but without winning the big one.  That says something about his "Leadership"  But this isn't about him, it's about Thurman.
 
Thurman is just as much deserving (if not more) than Aikman simply because he did so much with so little.
 
No disrespect, I just think Thurman is more deserving.
 
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Re: NFL Hall of Fame Thread
« Reply #11 on: Jan 12th, 2006, 1:17am »
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...And, they're closer...  From "The REAL Feed":
 
Aikman, Reggie White among Hall of Fame finalists
SI.com: NFL (11.01.2006 20:30)
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« Reply #12 on: Jan 13th, 2006, 12:40pm »
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Two finalists who should already be in IMO are Art Monk and Harry Carson.
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on Jan 13th, 2006, 12:40pm, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Two finalists who should already be in IMO are Art Monk and Harry Carson.

 
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on Jan 13th, 2006, 12:40pm, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Two finalists who should already be in IMO are Art Monk and Harry Carson.

 
 
Being a Giants fan, I am very glad to see Carson get in on his final year of eligibility. I am saddened to see that Monk still did not make it into the HOF. What a raw deal he has received.
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« Reply #15 on: Feb 5th, 2006, 6:08pm »
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While I agree with the "hosury" of Monk FOR SURE, I just now during the commencement of the Super Bowl show learned about John Madden's election into the Hall.  For that, I am HAPPY!  I actually got a lump in my throat when I heard it and almost shed a tear.  That's saying a lot coming from a Broncomaniac, no less.  But, good people are good people and when good things happen to good people it shines a ray of hope on the world.  John Madden, if nothing else aside from a great NFL guy and analyst, good coach with a Super Bowl victory to his name and outstanding ambassador of the NFL game, is good people... in my book.  Congrats, John and all the '06 inductees.  Thank you for the memories!
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 27th, 2006, 9:47pm »
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The Hall... in full view... on "The REAL Feed":
 
Hall of Fame Members
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« Reply #17 on: Aug 2nd, 2006, 9:51am »
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I'm taking a road-trip vacation in a couple weeks. Taking 8 days to drive from NJ out to South Bend, IN, and back (I have relatives there).
 
On the way, I'm making a pit stop in Canton, OH, for my first look at the HoF. Should be nice just a couple weeks after one of my all-time favorite Eagles is inducted posthumously.
 
I'm also planning to visit the College Football HoF in South Bend while I'm out there.  Just hope my wife doesn't mind that I'm turning this into a football-themed road trip.
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:02pm »
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This year's "diverse" class... from "The REAL Feed":
 
Deep, versatile field enters Hall of Fame
SI.com: NFL (03.08.2006 15:35)
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« Reply #20 on: Oct 27th, 2006, 4:12pm »
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This year's first batch of considerations... as per "The REAL Feed":
 
Tagliabue, Terrell Davis head Hall of Fame nominees
ESPN: NFL (27.10.2006 15:30)
Former NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue and Denver Broncos running back Terrell Davis top the list of 111 nominees submitted for election into the Pro Football Hall of Fame announced on Friday.

 
Tagliabue, Cunningham amongst preliminary Hall of Fame nominees
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« Reply #21 on: Feb 2nd, 2007, 6:08pm »
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I guess they make the official announcement of this year's entrants tomorrow.  Will Art Monk finally see justice and be named???
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Nope!!!
 
But, here are the guys who did get in... according to "The REAL Feed":
 
Hall's class includes Irvin, Thomas, Wehrli
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« Reply #23 on: Feb 9th, 2007, 10:03am »
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I still don't understand how Michael Irvin can get in, but Art Monk can't. He was able to play longer, has better stats, has as many SB rings as Irvin (although Monk's all came with different QBs -- not the juggernaut offensive team Dallas had with Aikman-Smith-Irvin-Novacek). I'll admit that Irvin was a pioneer of sorts in that he introduced the push-off that many WRs still use. But when it comes to character (is it a criteria? should it be?), Monk was squeaky clean and Irvin was just plain squeaky (and still is). I think it's time to reconsider the way the voting occurs. Current HOF members NEED to have a vote. It can't just be a handful of sportswriters.
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on Feb 9th, 2007, 10:03am, Philly wrote:
I'll admit that Irvin was a pioneer of sorts in that he introduced the push-off that many WRs still use.

 
Actually, Irvin wasn't the pioneer, but you are right,...it was a former Cowboy,... still pisses me off today!!!!  What some said was the best Vikings team of the 70's.
 
"The Dallas Cowboys started with the ball on its own 15-yard line, losing 14-10, with one minute and fifty-one seconds left in the fourth quarter. Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach managed a nine play drive to midfield against the Minnesota Vikings defense. From midfield, with 24 seconds now remaining, Staubach lined up in the shotgun formation, took the snap, pump-faked left, then turned to his right and threw a desperation pass to wide receiver Drew Pearson, who was being covered by Minnesota Vikings cornerback Nate Wright. As the two players were running side by side downfield, it appeared that Pearson may have pushed off on Wright to gain an unfair position advantage to catch the ball, which is offensive pass interference—a violation of the rules. As the ball decended downward, Pearson caught the ball by trapping it against his right hip at the 5-yard line and ran into the end zone to make the score 16-14 in favor of Dallas, and what would eventually be the winning touchdown. Wright was unable to defend the pass, as he had tripped over Pearson's leg just as the ball came down."
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