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Re: The Washington "Redskins" ~(Sunburnt Dudes)
« Reply #25 on: Oct 9th, 2013, 3:51pm »
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The latest on the raging debate... and rumors of concilliatory from "The REAL Feed":
 
Roger Goodell: I didn't call for Redskins name meeting
USA TODAY: Sports (08.10.2013 00:47)
NFL commissioner adds: "I don't know what the meeting is intended to do"

 
No consensus among Indians on 'Redskins' name
JuneauEmpire.com: Sports (09.10.2013 03:05)
The name of a certain pro football team in Washington, D.C., has inspired protests, hearings, editorials, lawsuits, letters from Congress, even a presidential nudge. Yet behind the headlines, it's unclear how many Native Americans think "Redskins"¯ is a racial slur.
Perhaps this uncertainty shoul...

 
Snyder says 'Redskins' name 'who we are
ESPN: NFL (09.10.2013 13:09)
Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder once again defended the franchise's nickname, this time in a letter to season-ticket holders, pointing to tradition and arguing that the team's past "isn't just where we came from -- it's who we are.
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Re: The Washington "Redskins" ~(Sunburnt Dudes)
« Reply #26 on: Oct 13th, 2013, 10:20pm »
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on Oct 9th, 2013, 3:51pm, StegRock wrote:
No consensus among Indians on 'Redskins' name
JuneauEmpire.com: Sports (09.10.2013 03:05)
The name of a certain pro football team in Washington, D.C., has inspired protests, hearings, editorials, lawsuits, letters from Congress, even a presidential nudge. Yet behind the headlines, it's unclear how many Native Americans think "Redskins"¯ is a racial slur.
Perhaps this uncertainty shoul...

 
The following quote from the above piece is really telling: "North Dakota was the scene of a similar controversy over the state university's Fighting Sioux nickname. It was decisively scrapped in a 2012 statewide vote -- after the Spirit Lake reservation voted in 2010 to keep it."
 
WHITE people, guilted into it by an, albeit loudmouth, minority of "red" people, made the decision.  If the "red" people had their way democratically, the name would have remained.  At the very least, it is a curious footnote to this whole debate.
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Re: The Washington "Redskins" ~(Sunburnt Dudes)
« Reply #27 on: May 30th, 2014, 6:25pm »
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Here we go with the liberal vote-getting mission of making people victims (moreover of the white man)...  From "The REAL Feed":
 
This garbage first...  I post it mainly because rationality, though not well exhibited in the article itself, is on great display in the comments section below it...
 
Will NFL players take a stand on the Redskins nickname?
USA TODAY: NFL (30.05.2014 03:30)
Bruce Allen recently defended nickname.

 
It must be an interesting world having whites tell you what you are offended by (because we know the numbers at large and, moreover, in the Native American community do not even come close to affirming the claim).
 
Response to this nonsense...
 
NFL official: Redskins 'not a slur'
WTVD: Sports (30.05.2014 17:23)
An NFL official said Friday that the Washington Redskins' name is not a slur ...
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Re: The Washington "Redskins" ~(Sunburnt Dudes)
« Reply #28 on: Jun 18th, 2014, 10:51pm »
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They cannot get it done in the courts or through public opinion, so the left now tries weaponizing the Patent and Trademark Office (for a second time, mind you)...  From "The REAL Feed":
 
Trademark board rules against Washington Redskins name
NFL.com (18.06.2014 15:09)
A federal trademark board ruled Wednesday that the Washington Redskins nickname is "disparaging of Native Americans" and that the team's trademark protections should be canceled, a decision that applies new financial and political pressure on the team to change its name.

 
That is so lame.
 
Oh, wait, I cannot say that!  That is a slur toward the disabled...
 
I know many of you are thinking, "Steg, that is ridiculous hyperbole."
 
IS IT?
 
Click the following link and scroll to PDF page 12, document page 21 and read under the heading "Educate":
 
http://www.tolerance.org/sites/default/files/general/Speak_Up_at_School. pdf.
 
This is the new eyes-glazed happy face of righteous indignation... YIKES!!!
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Re: The Washington "Redskins" ~(Sunburnt Dudes)
« Reply #29 on: Jun 26th, 2014, 7:01pm »
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MSNBC's reportage on this...
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icMkpLN9TkQ.
 
They,... nay,... we, having been dumbed-down by our leftist education, cannot even maintain the "use"/"mention" distinction, moreover, even when it applies to someone else's speech, and so WARNINGS have to be given.
 
But, of course, such distinctions are going to be conflated by the left because the very acknowledgment of the distinction itself means that we cannot ignore what really is important, that is, HOW a word is used, not that a word is used.  This is precisely why we have been so tied in knots over black people's, particularly, young black males' use of "that" word (I will not dignify the word for the word by even, mind you, "mentioning" it).  Not that use/mention is the only distinction operative in all this, but, it demonstrates that, once you acknowledge that it is the how that really matters, the issue gets muddy (which is what it really is, of course) and, thus, loses its POLITICAL punch.  So, we remain in idiot land, many of us willingly so (due to being potentially unwittingly, mind you, political lackeys).  It IS different when, say, a black rapper uses the word.  Of course, once that is admitted (to be the truth that it is), if we are going to be intellectually honest, we have to acknowledge that all kinds of people can utter the word with varying degrees of offensiveness, from none to totally, depending on myriad factors relative to its usage in a given situation.  This means being a mature adult about it and not speaking in childlike generalities and platitudes like the leftists (want us to) do (for political purposes).
 
Meanwhile, "that" word and Redskins have very different histories, no less usages.  Again, I cannot even imagine the latter's being used as a racial "slur" (a word which almost every time we hear it anymore indicates hyperbole), especially given how many native Americans TAKE PRIDE in the moniker:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9689220/redskins-name-change-not-easy- sounds (I do not know how this article did not get more press,... or, on second thought, maybe I do,... and that tells us something about our country right now that I would argue is unsettling).
 
But, hey, at least another uppity white school got rid of the nickname:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/25/another-high-school-ditc hes-the-redskins-name/ (actually, the comments section, rather than the article itself, is the better read).
 
It is great to know that we whites are leading the way in telling others what they should be offended by.
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« Reply #30 on: Jul 10th, 2014, 10:38pm »
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Just realized this...  A school in my own, relative to this discussion somewhat notable, neck of the woods has their own "obviously offensive" variation...
 
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kahuku-Red-Raider-Football-News-and-Video s-KahukuNation/272179572809256.
 
That's gonna have to go, no?  Just don't call it "lame". (See two above.)
 
Seriously, if you think this one through, especially given that it is in Hawaii, this one really does throw a wrench in things for the "Redskin haters"...  It is surely not unreasonable for someONE to "claim" that he or she is offended by this team name, right?
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Can we finally stop being political lemmings and put this to rest???
 
New poll finds 9 in 10 Native Americans aren't offended by Redskins name
 
This is the leftist Washington Compost, for Gawd's sake!!!
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on May 19th, 2016, 6:11pm, StegRock wrote:
Can we finally stop being political lemmings and put this to rest???
 
New poll finds 9 in 10 Native Americans aren't offended by Redskins name
 
This is the leftist Washington Compost, for Gawd's sake!!!

 
This will always linger.   I would not be surprised if Snyder finally agrees to change the name when they get their new stadium in a few years.  From a marketing and merchandising perspective, the timing would be very profitable.   Rumors are that they will build a new stadium (renderings have already been done and featured on 60 minutes) at the site of the old RFK stadium.   My guess would be 2020 or 2021.
 
 
http://www.redskins.com/news-and-events/article-1/New-Redskins-Stadium-C oncept-60K-Seats-Museum-Included/9d3cc954-7022-4209-aa7f-e04dd34ffd12
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/digger/wp/2016/03/11/architect-unvei ls-glitzy-design-for-redskins-stadium-complex/
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