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Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Politics
« Reply #575 on: Sep 19th, 2015, 12:50am »
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on Sep 18th, 2015, 5:12pm, StegRock wrote:
Media sensationalism, including Fox News, and inarticulate, cowardly Republicans continue to fall prey to the Democrat's politics of divide and conquer...  The truth on the following matter is at neither of the extremes with which it is typically expressed, the prevailing extreme being that of the mainstream media and the Democrat party.
 
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Obama is NOT a Muslim.  HOWEVER, he is a Muslim apologist or sympathizer the likes of which we have never had in the White House, and it has had a negative impact on American foreign policy and stability in the world, period!

 
 
Do you mind explaining how the Demoncrat's had anything to do with that friggin moron or Trumps complete and total inept response?   You seem to state as fact that the deomcrats had something to do with it.
 
If you want to see class, see John McCain's response to a similar question in 2008.  
 
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Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Politics
« Reply #576 on: Sep 19th, 2015, 6:23am »
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Do you mind explaining how the Demoncrat's had anything to do with that friggin moron or Trumps complete and total inept response?   You seem to state as fact that the deomcrats had something to do with it.

Do not read into things that are evidently beyond your ken, DD! I even criticize Fox News and Republicans, for Gawd's sake!  Even that is not enough for you, though!  Criticism of my own side is not enough.  But, of course, you demand wholesale rejection and complete acquiescence!  Read on... as it all makes sense...
 
...
 
But, anyway, THIS is the (middle-ground) truth of the matter...
 
on Sep 18th, 2015, 5:12pm, StegRock wrote:
Obama is NOT a Muslim.  HOWEVER, he is a Muslim apologist or sympathizer the likes of which we have never had in the White House, and it has had a negative impact on American foreign policy and stability in the world, period!

NOT this...
 
on Sep 19th, 2015, 12:50am, DirkDiggler wrote:
If you want to see class, see John McCain's response to a similar question in 2008.

And, incidentally, this is how McCain was thanked by the Great One: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwozMG4wHgs.
 
Arrogant!  Classless!
 
Moreover, could you give me just one example void of political expedience and motivation of a Democrat saying something as classy, to use your verbiage, toward a Republican as McCain did toward Obama? ... But, I digress.  Read on... as "you" make sense...
 
Of course, an Obama borg and leftist, liberal lemming like you would think otherwise about all this.  Democrats, and especially so-called Socialist Democrats, demand group-think!  Even George Orwell warned us of this.  That is why they, like you here, love to point out when lapdog Republicans say what they want them to say.  It is like, "Even a Republican defends Obama.  See how right we are!"  It is a sort of "a fortiori" fulfillment of their (logically predictable) need for agreement, consensus, unanimity (as that is what socialism, which the Democrat party has sold out to, bends toward and truth is reduced to for relativist-minded leftists who do not think there is objective truth).  Socrates and Plato warned us: when "man is the measure of all things," "might makes right."  Group-think is also why they, as you have exhibited throughout this thread, cannot cross the proverbial aisle and have a meeting of the minds with the other side.  They,... eh-hem,... you do not want to.  It is always liberal lemming shouts out the Democrat politically correct platitude, conservative gives point-by-point logical response, liberal lemming ignores argument and shouts same crap packaged slightly differently while smugly asking how can you not agree, and repeat.  They demand ideological dominance.  Indeed, ALL the landmark legislation of this administration, such as the ACA and the Iran nuclear agreement, has been done without any Republican support or through executive orders broad in scope or, improperly, in the courts, like gay marriage.  They never want to agree with the Republicans.  They only want Republicans to agree with them, and far too many oblige and enable this tyranny.  Indeed, absence of Republican support ensures purity to the Democrat and, moreover, so-called Democratic Socialist mind.  The only bipartisanship there has been during this administration is, OF COURSE, dissent because that is the logic of the situation.  Meanwhile, the American ideal via freedom of speech is that we can agree to disagree as long as we hear each other out while the Democrat party ideal is freedom from speech and an avoidance of hearing each other out whilst screaming over people and shouting chants.
 


On a different, but related note, anyone who thinks (as DD probably does and the Great One surely does) that this kid in Texas was genius enough to build a clock on his own from scratch but not smart enough to see that it looked very suspicious and would evoke legitimate concern and thus to be able to clearly demonstrate that it was not a bomb, especially when he did not do this for a class assignment but just for "fun" and, moreover, claims that he has experienced anti-Muslim bigotry, is a TOTAL MORON.. or pushing the leftist narrative.
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« Reply #577 on: Sep 23rd, 2015, 12:22am »
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Look, the controversy over Ben Carson's answer to the question about the possibility of a Muslim president is silly.  What is NOT, however, is a country that feels it has to prove its goodness by entertaining a question about a member of a group that, broadly speaking, committed one of the most horrendous attacks against said country less than a decade and a half ago occupying the highest office of its land.  It is as if the very posing of the question somehow demonstrates moral righteousness, or so the liberal media would have us believe.  How pathetic!  Would any Muslim country consider electing a Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu or atheist president?  Heck, in America the likes of Pat Buchanan and Mike Huckabee are too Christian to be elected to the presidency!!!  And, we are supposed to feel immoral about expressing hesitance about a Muslim!!! We are taking self-loathing to new heights!
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Re: G.T.K.Y.G. - Topic:  Politics
« Reply #578 on: Sep 25th, 2015, 7:07am »
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Of course, an Obama borg and leftist, liberal lemming like you would think otherwise about all this.  Democrats, and especially so-called Socialist Democrats, demand group-think!  Even George Orwell warned us of this.  That is why they, like you here, love to point out when lapdog Republicans say what they want them to say.  It is like, "Even a Republican defends Obama.  See how right we are!"  It is a sort of "a fortiori" fulfillment of their (logically predictable) need for agreement, consensus, unanimity (as that is what socialism, which the Democrat party has sold out to, bends toward and truth is reduced to for relativist-minded leftists who do not think there is objective truth).  Socrates and Plato warned us: when "man is the measure of all things," "might makes right."  Group-think is also why they, as you have exhibited throughout this thread, cannot cross the proverbial aisle and have a meeting of the minds with the other side.  They,... eh-hem,... you do not want to.  It is always liberal lemming shouts out the Democrat politically correct platitude, conservative gives point-by-point logical response, liberal lemming ignores argument and shouts same crap packaged slightly differently while smugly asking how can you not agree, and repeat.  They demand ideological dominance.  Indeed, ALL the landmark legislation of this administration, such as the ACA and the Iran nuclear agreement, has been done without any Republican support or through executive orders broad in scope or, improperly, in the courts, like gay marriage.  They never want to agree with the Republicans.  They only want Republicans to agree with them, and far too many oblige and enable this tyranny.  Indeed, absence of Republican support ensures purity to the Democrat and, moreover, so-called Democratic Socialist mind.  The only bipartisanship there has been during this administration is, OF COURSE, dissent because that is the logic of the situation.  Meanwhile, the American ideal via freedom of speech is that we can agree to disagree as long as we hear each other out while the Democrat party ideal is freedom from speech and an avoidance of hearing each other out whilst screaming over people and shouting chants.

 
Newest tool for the libbo dems: Pope Francis!  "See, even the POPE agrees with us.  He is a progressive just like us."  Thing is, they are laying claim to those points of agreement (on immigration, income inequality, and the death penalty), of course, divorced from the moral reasoning that underlies the positions he takes (on those matters).  Mind you, they have to do that for, if they do acknowledge the underlying moral reasoning, they would have to deal with positions on matters such as abortion, marriage and gender that progressives very much so do not welcome.  The problem, though, moral discourse disconnected from moral reasoning is mere indoctrination and demagoguery.  Worse yet, Pope Francis exacerbated the matter by only speaking directly to those issues on which he agrees with the lefties.  Whether that was calculated or unwitting, I do not know.  But, it definitely made what he said in his address to Congress vulnerable to partisan politicization.
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« Reply #579 on: Sep 26th, 2015, 9:04pm »
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I cannot take it anymore...  We got the Festival of Families Concert with Pope Francis in attendance on FOX News (and CNN)...  Classy, uplifting, thoughtful, apolitical!  Then, we got the Global Citizen Festival Concert to End Extreme World Hunger on MSNBC...  Victimization central, trotting out victims of all kinds regardless of relevance to the topic at hand!  No critical thinking, unserious, yet political claptrap abounds!  Meanwhile, the U.S. and China, in a supposedly great display of "benevolence", agree to give $6.1 BILLION for the reduction of carbon emissions to DEVELOPING COUNTRIES.  Are you kidding me?  This is money that keeps those countries backwards and poor and the coffers of their scumbag leaders full.  If you want to end world hunger, STOP DOING THAT!!!  THINK!  Wake the hell up, ya damn lemmings!
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Earth to Trump...  Here is what you need to say right now...
 
"I preface that Hillary is not her husband.  But, it must be understood that nothing I have done is as bad or, at least, any worse than Bill Clinton.  Again, Hillary is not Bill, I understand.  He was the president, and many think he was a great president.  I would be a great president."
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« Reply #582 on: Jan 11th, 2017, 1:19am »
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Did anybody else catch Sean Hannity's slip-up on his show tonight??? HILLLLL-ARIOUS!!!
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« Reply #583 on: Jan 20th, 2017, 2:54pm »
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What a day!  Indeed, I am reluctant to post this on the "Politics" thread as today, Inauguration Day, is supposed to transcend politics.  Even though some want to betray and even upend the process, today is a celebration of the distinctively American peaceful transition of power, which is ever more precious when the transition is deeply philosophical.
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What a day!  Indeed, I am reluctant to post this on the "Politics" thread as today, Inauguration Day, is supposed to transcend politics.  Even though some want to betray and even upend the process, today is a celebration of the distinctively American peaceful transition of power, which is ever more precious when the transition is deeply philosophical.

 
It really is something when a country can peacefully transition power.   Democracy at work.  
 
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I just watched the last episode of FNC's "Red Eye"...
 
This show was GRRRREAT!!!  Whhhyyyyyy???
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Millionaires...
 
You do not help your people by stirring in them anger and hatred toward their country.
 
You let your people get used by stirring in them anger and hatred toward their country.
 
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It has been said (by the likes of Stephen A. Smith) that President Trump has won/is winning the day over the players kneeling during the National Anthem and presentation of colors, but that he has done so by "distorting" their message.  That latter part is a falsehood!  He did not.  Kaepernick and those who have followed his "lead" have.  Without getting into the deeper, more nuanced philosophical issues of the day of relativism, subjectivism and emotionalism run amok and a population's overwhelming loss of objectivity and as a result reasonableness, let's just say that what matters is not what the message is (which is whatever one has determined it to be) but how it is delivered (which requires one to make considerations beyond one's own determinations).
 
While I agree that how these players have decided to conduct their protest is disrespectful to service members and first responders, with ALL DUE respect, that in and of itself is not my greatest concern.  What I am concerned about is something much more destructive to the core fabric of the country.  That is to say, my ultimate concern is that what they are doing is disrespectful and deleterious to the foundations of the country.  You would not want to ostentatiously protest, say, the child-molestation scandal in the Catholic Church during the recital of the Lord's Prayer (or even the Nicene Creed) unless you were wanting to announce your renunciation of Christianity (or departure from the Church).  Such would not be tolerated as those prayers speak to the foundations of Christianity (and the Catholic Church).  Analogously, disrespecting the National Anthem and the American flag is in the same anti-American, deconstructionist spirit that seeks the diminution of the Founding Fathers, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as is manifest in the desecration of the Jefferson and Lincoln Memorials, the Washington Monument and the WWII Memorial.  This is an undeniably dangerous trend!  And, it is not nearly sufficiently addressed.
 
Mind you, the leftists and socialists who foment this anti-Americanism are no fans of the NFL, either.  The NFL too is an iconic American staple that promotes competition and masculinity.  These players are political stooges.  But, moreover, the fame of the players is being used to further spread this cancer, especially to the young people who look up to them.  The far left is winning in a twofold manner: they are getting their political agenda advanced, AND it is hurting the NFL!
 
Now, that all does not mean that their protest has absolutely no merit.  But, if we are really going to have, not just the, but an intellectually honest "conversation" about "race", it is going to have to include statistics that are fairly overwhelmingly unsupportive of the claim of rampant police brutality against blacks, the failures of social-welfare programs, inner-city policies, and "Great Society" initiatives (and the fact that the architect of the "Great Society", LBJ, had THIS to say about it all), the life-saving results of stop-and-frisk policing, as well as the disintegration of the African-American family.  Also, since education and work experience and training are so fundamentally important to the uplifting of a person and a community, solutions such as school vouchers ("free education equals public eduction" is a lie) and welfare work and apprenticeship requirements (of the kind which the prior administration removed) need to be taken seriously and not just dismissed by demagoguery and overgeneralized rhetoric about racism and white supremacy.  Otherwise, the "conversation" will remain unproductive political posturing that moreover causes the country to crack at the seams insofar as academia, the mainstream media and the entertainment industry are in the tank for the democrats.
 
(To wit, even what Trump said was misreported and overblown.  He did not directly call the players "sons of bitches" as has been roundly reported.  He just quipped as if he was quoting an NFL owner saying, upon seeing a player kneeling during the Anthem, "Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, he's fired."  That is the exact quote.  It takes pretty thin skin to believe he was referring to oneself specifically and a political agenda to take it as applying in some particularly literal way to each and every one of the players.  He is saying some generic slang that one would be inclined to say about an employee one wants fired.  But, I digress...  He is oftentimes crass.  C'est la vie.)
 
Needless to say, this is NOT about any infringement on players' freedom of speech and expression, which is an intellectually vapid defense.  Bottom line for me and vis-à-vis this website, the players protesting during the Anthem and presentation of colors are severely compromising my enjoyment of the hobby of fantasy football I so love.  Ugh...  I am wanting to simply close this post out with an innocuous, commonplace phrase regarding the heavy feeling I have about this season, but -- censorship is in the midst -- I am refraining from doing so for fear of some thin-skinned, indoctrinated drone absurdly reading racism into it and then my being swarmed by drones, and in the meantime having my carefully considered points get lost in the scuffle.
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In case anybody did not get this, ...
 
on Nov 2nd, 2017, 3:06am, Stegfucius wrote:
"I will transmit this information to Vladimir."

 
... Google it!
 
 
on Oct 28th, 2017, 5:56am, Stegfucius wrote:
It has been said (by the likes of Stephen A. Smith) that President Trump has won/is winning the day over the players kneeling during the National Anthem and presentation of colors, but that he has done so by "distorting" their message.  That latter part is a falsehood!  He did not.  Kaepernick and those who have followed his "lead" have.  Without getting into the deeper, more nuanced philosophical issues of the day of relativism, subjectivism and emotionalism run amok and a population's overwhelming loss of objectivity and as a result reasonableness, let's just say that what matters is not what the message is (which is whatever one has determined it to be) but how it is delivered (which requires one to make considerations beyond one's own determinations).
 
While I agree that how these players have decided to conduct their protest is disrespectful to service members and first responders, with ALL DUE respect, that in and of itself is not my greatest concern.  What I am concerned about is something much more destructive to the core fabric of the country.  That is to say, my ultimate concern is that what they are doing is disrespectful and deleterious to the foundations of the country.  You would not want to ostentatiously protest, say, the child-molestation scandal in the Catholic Church during the recital of the Lord's Prayer (or even the Nicene Creed) unless you were wanting to announce your renunciation of Christianity (or departure from the Church).  Such would not be tolerated as those prayers speak to the foundations of Christianity (and the Catholic Church).  Analogously, disrespecting the National Anthem and the American flag is in the same anti-American, deconstructionist spirit that seeks the diminution of the Founding Fathers, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as is manifest in the desecration of the Jefferson and Lincoln Memorials, the Washington Monument and the WWII Memorial.  This is an undeniably dangerous trend!  And, it is not nearly sufficiently addressed.
 
Mind you, the leftists and socialists who foment this anti-Americanism are no fans of the NFL, either.  The NFL too is an iconic American staple that promotes competition and masculinity.  These players are political stooges.  But, moreover, the fame of the players is being used to further spread this cancer, especially to the young people who look up to them.  The far left is winning in a twofold manner: they are getting their political agenda advanced, AND it is hurting the NFL!
 
Now, that all does not mean that their protest has absolutely no merit.  But, if we are really going to have, not just the, but an intellectually honest "conversation" about "race", it is going to have to include statistics that are fairly overwhelmingly unsupportive of the claim of rampant police brutality against blacks, the failures of social-welfare programs, inner-city policies, and "Great Society" initiatives (and the fact that the architect of the "Great Society", LBJ, had THIS to say about it all), the life-saving results of stop-and-frisk policing, as well as the disintegration of the African-American family.  Also, since education and work experience and training are so fundamentally important to the uplifting of a person and a community, solutions such as school vouchers ("free education equals public eduction" is a lie) and welfare work and apprenticeship requirements (of the kind which the prior administration removed) need to be taken seriously and not just dismissed by demagoguery and overgeneralized rhetoric about racism and white supremacy.  Otherwise, the "conversation" will remain unproductive political posturing that moreover causes the country to crack at the seams insofar as academia, the mainstream media and the entertainment industry are in the tank for the democrats.
 
(To wit, even what Trump said was misreported and overblown.  He did not directly call the players "sons of bitches" as has been roundly reported.  He just quipped as if he was quoting an NFL owner saying, upon seeing a player kneeling during the Anthem, "Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, he's fired."  That is the exact quote.  It takes pretty thin skin to believe he was referring to oneself specifically and a political agenda to take it as applying in some particularly literal way to each and every one of the players.  He is saying some generic slang that one would be inclined to say about an employee one wants fired.  But, I digress...  He is oftentimes crass.  C'est la vie.)
 
Needless to say, this is NOT about any infringement on players' freedom of speech and expression, which is an intellectually vapid defense.  Bottom line for me and vis-à-vis this website, the players protesting during the Anthem and presentation of colors are severely compromising my enjoyment of the hobby of fantasy football I so love.  Ugh...  I am wanting to simply close this post out with an innocuous, commonplace phrase regarding the heavy feeling I have about this season, but -- censorship is in the midst -- I am refraining from doing so for fear of some thin-skinned, indoctrinated drone absurdly reading racism into it and then my being swarmed by drones, and in the meantime having my carefully considered points get lost in the scuffle.

 
It is now official...  The National Anthem is being attacked as racist!  Way to go, Colin!  Raping the 49ers was not enough.  You had to rape the nation!  While the country's foundations are under assault, statues of a disgraced and ultimately forgettable former Mayor of Washington D.C. Marion Barry are being erected.  His misdeeds are explained away as a function of the times in which he lived, but such a pass is not given to our Founding Fathers!  But, I digress...
 
I have a working thesis about how the NFL is getting by during these unfortunate times...  The NFL is being buoyed by fantasy football!  This may just be anecdotal, but in all honesty the ONLY thing keeping me partially tuned in to the NFL is my fantasy football league, the GBRFL.  The NFL is the only professional sports league that has consistently held my attention into my adulthood, and but for the existence of the GBRFL, I would be done with the NFL!  The anti-Americanism and libel against the American people that the NFL is promoting is despicable.
 
The politically motivated conflation of imperfect racial attitudes with overt racism, no less white supremacy, is a grave error of our times and a terrible libel against the overwhelming majority of Americans!
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