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2009 Protection Lists
« on: Jul 27th, 2009, 9:52pm »
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I wanted to send my tentative, early keeper list.  Very subject to change!!
 
 
QB- Manning, Schaub, Rivers, Bulger
RB- Julius Jones, Portis, Gore, Bush, Kevin Smith
WR- Coles, Houshmanzadeh, D Bowe
Def- Ravens
 
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #1 on: Jul 27th, 2009, 10:50pm »
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I DIGRESS...
    By the way, guys,... let's use this as the official thread on which to announce protections [of course, you are still welcome to submit them to me via another medium if that is more convenient for you (and then I'll post them here)].
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #2 on: Jul 29th, 2009, 11:56am »
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When are they due?
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #3 on: Jul 29th, 2009, 4:49pm »
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Frank, all,... they are actually not due until, as usual, one week prior to the draft date.  As the Summer Meeting & Draft is scheduled for Sunday, August 16th, one's protections/cuts would be due by 11:59 p.m. (EST) on Sunday, August 9th.  So, as of right now, there is no rush.  One somewhat important peripheral matter to note, though, Baby Monica's christening will also be on Sunday, August 9th.  Come that night, I'm probably going to be pooped after a long day of ceremonies and partying with family and friends who we don't get to see often (anticipatively, including some of you). The point being, many of you call in on cuts day to chit-chat with the old Stegger.  While, of course, you all are still welcome to call in your cuts on the 9th, it's most definitely not going to be a good day for the chit-chat part.  So, for those of you who would like to do that, know that I relish doing so but that cut-down day is not, unlike is usually the case, going to be the day to do it.  For that matter, the day before, Saturday, probably won't be that great of a day as well.
 
One other IMPORTANT related note, per our decision of a year ago, the Draft Lottery will also NOT take place at the Summer Meeting & Draft.  It will be done the evening after cut-down day.  Expect that we'll be doing it through FreeConferenceCall.com, the service we've used in the past, sometime after, say, 6:30 p.m. (EST) on Monday, August 10th.  Before resuming discussion on this, please let me get to Jersey first.  We'll hammer this all out then.  Do note that each and every GBRFLer does not need to participate.  In fact, we need only three people, one to "pull the numbers out of the hat" (his ass) and two dudes checking the result on the spreadsheet and acting as a check on each other.  Lastly, as for our arrival in Jersey, we are leaving tomorrow and anticipate arriving at my mom's late on Friday or midday Saturday.  Over and out...
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #4 on: Aug 3rd, 2009, 1:24pm »
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Tentative protections (keeper list):
 
QB: Palmer, Collins, Young, Jackson
RB: Brown, Taylor, MJD, Washington
RC: Gates, Johnson, Mason, Engram
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #5 on: Aug 5th, 2009, 12:29am »
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qb- mcnabb, russell, Jake D, Trent Edwards
rb-Parker, Lynch, Fred Jackson, Leron Mclain
wr- Bryant, Wes W, Donnie Avery
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #6 on: Aug 7th, 2009, 1:03am »
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QB: Warner, Cutler, Hasslebeck
RB: Turner, Forte, McFadden, Addai, M. Bush
RC: Colston, Ochocinco, Jennings, B. Marshall, B. Edwards
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #7 on: Aug 7th, 2009, 1:06pm »
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New team name: Flacco's Whackos
 
QB: Romo, Rodgers, Flacco
RB: Peterson, Jackson, Williams, Graham
WR: Fitzgerald, Moss, White, Smith, Breaston
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #8 on: Aug 7th, 2009, 1:13pm »
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Oops, forgot about team names.
 
New team name: The Laborers of Pocket Hercules
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #9 on: Aug 7th, 2009, 8:56pm »
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What a dumb name. Please explain? I need a new team name, how bout, The jerk off squad!! My team is a bunch of jerk offs!!
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #10 on: Aug 8th, 2009, 5:24pm »
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The team name loses its wittiness if I have to explain it.
 
Suffice it to say that anyone familiar with Greek mythology (or with a rather recent Disney movie based on a famous Greek myth) should get the reference.  Only those familiar with my star running back will understand why the reference works.
 
My updated keeper list:
 
QB -- Palmer, Collins, Young, Jackson
RB -- Brown, Taylor, MJD, Washington, Williams
WR -- Johnson, Gates, Mason
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #11 on: Aug 8th, 2009, 7:14pm »
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I didnt know Steve Young was still playing..
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #12 on: Aug 8th, 2009, 11:13pm »
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The protections for the Ruthless Burgers...
 
QB's - Ben Roethlisberger, Chad Pennington, Byron Leftwich, Michael Vick
 
RB's - Ryan Grant, Derrick Ward, Cedric Benson
 
RC's - Jason Witten, Anthony Gonzalez, Hines Ward, Tony Gonzalez
 
DU's - Pittsburgh Steelers, Minnesota Vikings
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #13 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 10:13am »
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Where is everyone elses protection lists?
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #14 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 1:32pm »
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on Aug 9th, 2009, 10:13am, IbdFunk wrote:
Where is everyone elses protection lists?

 
Not due until tonight at midnight.  You know Joe is trying to sell all of the players he is going to cut until the very last minute!
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #15 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 3:47pm »
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QB: Brady, Cassell, Henne, Culpepper
RB: LT2, Larry Johnson, Lendale White, Mendenhall, Felix Jones, Pierre Thomas
WR: Boldin, Lance Moore
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #16 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 4:13pm »
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Updated (again) Protected Players List (I now have only 11, having traded a pro spot to Joe for his 2.6):
 
QB - Palmer, Collins, V. Young, T. Jackson
 
RB - MJD, R. Brown, F. Taylor, L. Washington, R. Williams
 
WR - A. Johnson, A. Gates
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #17 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 8:52pm »
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Here we go. Presenting your 2009 GBRFL Champions The Brady Bunch.
 
QB- Brees, Orton, Quinn, Rosenfels
RB- Westbrook, Slaton, Barber, Lewis, Rice
WR- Jackson, Moss
Def- Giants
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« Reply #18 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 11:35pm »
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QB - Eli Manning, Matt Leinart, David Garrard, Matt Ryan
RB - Thomas Jones, Jonathon Stewart, Chris Johnson, Tim Hightower
WR - Roy Williams, Reggie Wayne, Calvin Johnson, Desean Jackson
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #19 on: Aug 9th, 2009, 11:38pm »
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I am replacing Donnie Avery with Dominic Hixson due to his pussy ass getting injuried. My rest of line up is still the same
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #20 on: Aug 10th, 2009, 2:07am »
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Guys, first off, the good news,... the "Rosters" (and "Transactions") page(s) at the league site has (have) been updated.  The bad news,... the cuts this year did not go by without hitch.
 
Dave Trout, who is presently away on a family trip in Disney World and did not submit his protections here or by e-mail, did not phone me until 12:23 tonight.  He had reasons that I will let him explain if he so chooses/if need be.  In any event, he immediately apologized and the next words from his mouth were, "Do what you gotta do, Steg."  He had yet to realize the ramifications.  I ended up asking him what his protections would have been... because, if I follow the letter of the law, his team gets destroyed.  As applied here, the letter of the law, stated and then set by precedent and frankly speaking meant to be harsh (though perhaps not this harsh), is that his team would be cut down according to offseason trades and his prior year's Week 17 lineup in the following 12-protection configuration:  3 QB's, 4 RB's, 4 RC's and 1 DU.  Fewer protections, and I just work backwards up the list according to the lowest "traditional" positional value per the GBRFL format, i.e. DU, #4 RC, #3 QB, #4 RB, #3 RC... and so on... toward the "traditional" position of most value, #1 RB.  So, at any rate, since Dave has 11 protection spots, the DU is what he would lose.
 
As such, the team Trout would be left with if I followed the letter of the law would be as follows:
QB's - Jeff Garcia, Shaun Hill, Alex Smith
RB's - Maurice Morris, Ahmad Bradshaw, Dominic Rhodes, LaMont Jordan
RC's - Terrell Owens, Lee Evans, Santonio Holmes, Bernard Berrian
 
The protections he submitted were:
QB's - Jason Campbell, Shaun Hill, Alex Smith
RB's - Brandon Jacobs, Correll Buckhalter, LaMont Jordan
RC's - Terrell Owens, Lee Evans, Eddie Royal, Santonio Holmes, Bernard Berrian
 
BIG DIFFERENCE!!!
 
Given the impact this would have on the Draft and the fact that he was only 23 minutes late, I felt I should present the situation to the league and get some input (before just wielding the hammer ) (and maybe even ultimately go about it democratically).  (Furthermore, we may want to visit this area of our rules during our rules discussion come the meeting next Sunday).  Again, the rule is meant to be harsh... and dissuasive, but not necessarily this harsh.  I'm not saying Dave shouldn't be penalized, but to a degree that his team is decimated... and the Draft gets thrown somewhat significantly out of whack?
 
Maybe here, we can use Dave's situation to set precedent on a more "gradated" penalty system for protections submitted late.  I just wouldn't want it to be too loose because, as you all know, things can change significantly from moment to moment at this time of the year (when we are usually doing our cuts) (though not at all typically in the middle of the night as is the case here).
 
All things considered (though a lot of us are away on vacation and/or extremely busy at this time), I am personally sort of inclined toward mercy.  That said, bottom line, this shouldn't happen and I surely don't want to encourage it.  Heck, because of this, I'm not going to get to bed here (and I am tired out of my gourd after, mind yous, a wonderful day of celebration for Monica Marie's christening) until probably around 3:00 a.m. I otherwise could have been snoozing away by 12:30 after updating the web site.
 
So, what do yous think???  PLEASE chime in... thoughtfully!!!
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #21 on: Aug 10th, 2009, 10:42am »
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Let me approach this philosophically . . .
 
The rule is in place and according to the letter of the law, Trout's team gets decimated.  But we need to ask why the rule exists -- it exists to get protection spots submitted in a timely fashion so we can have the draft in a timely manner, and (this year) so we can have the lottery pick drawings in a timely manner.  Now midnight is an arbitrary deadline, in the absolute sense (what's 23 minutes, at the end of the day? -- it's still "timely," or at least timely enough for the purposes for which the rules was instituted).  Furthermore, the extenuating circumstances are apparent -- on vacation, with family, away from the computer, etc.  Thus I am of the strong opinion that mercy is the best call here.
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #22 on: Aug 10th, 2009, 11:09am »
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Let's leave it up to Monica Marie. If you show her a picture of Dave and she vomits, the rule sticks. If she simply burps in disgust, we allow the late selections.
 
Seriously though, I agree with Mr. Rave. The letter of the rule is not as important in this case as the spirit.  
There is no major damage to the draft or the league by a 23 minute delay in posting. If he had submitted during or after the lottery that would be a different impact.  
 
I believe there is precedence here though. It's not the first time this has happened in league history. Let's refer back to the "Trent Green" incident. I believe it may have involved one Dave Trout back then too.  
 
As much as I would love to scoop up Brandon Jacobs though, it wouldn't feel right to destroy Dave's team in the process.  
 
I vote for leniency. I expect the same in return should I submit a lineup in late during the season though.
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #23 on: Aug 10th, 2009, 11:14am »
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I agree with Frank and Travis.  I almost missed the deadline as well because I was coming back from vacation.  
 
In addition, there was no harm from his slight delay in submitting his protection list and the damage to his team would be ridiculous.
 
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Re: 2009 Protection Lists
« Reply #24 on: Aug 10th, 2009, 12:11pm »
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on Aug 10th, 2009, 11:14am, Pakman wrote:
I agree with Frank and Travis.  I almost missed the deadline as well because I was coming back from vacation.  
 
In addition, there was no harm from his slight delay in submitting his protection list and the damage to his team would be ridiculous.
 

 
Agree, 23 minutes....no harm, no foul.  
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