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Jets Offseason Report
« on: Mar 9th, 2003, 10:34pm »
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Hot off of the GridIron Newsstand:
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2413-2003Mar9.html
 
The Redskins are going to offer Coles a contract.  It fits their needs for a WR.  Can't move up to get Rogers, so they will give away their first round pick to the Jets.  
 
Will the Jets try to match or be happy just to have the Redskins 13th pick?  The Skins are offering a signing bonus of $13 million and offering a contract of $5 mil a year.  Unbelievable!!!  The Redskins seem to be bidding against themselves this offseason.  They have structured the deal so the Jets will have a hard time matching it.
 
The fantasy ramifications are huge.  Coles and Gardner on the same team...who will emerge as #1?  Santana Moss is now the #1?  Does Curtis Martin's value go up or down?  Ramsey will be coveted!
 
And the final thought.  Will the Redskins change their names to the Washington Jets?  4 Jets will have been signed by the Skins this offseason.  Hall, Thomas, Morton, and Coles.  Talk about envy.
 
 
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Re: Redskins gonna sign Coles??
« Reply #1 on: Mar 10th, 2003, 12:52am »
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 I can't believe this crap, Pennington was one of my keeper options. That kills that now.
     Maybe I'll wake up and find out it's not true. ???
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Re: Redskins gonna sign Coles??
« Reply #2 on: Mar 10th, 2003, 3:47am »
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Here is an interesting read...looks like Coles was serious about leaving...
 
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/pasquarelli_len/1520968.html
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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #3 on: Mar 10th, 2003, 3:13pm »
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If Washington get Coles, this Washington team is going to be UNBELIEVEABLE. Though, the Redskins D was so supposed to be great last season, and we all saw how that went....
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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #4 on: Mar 11th, 2003, 3:41pm »
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...and it looks like he's going, or at least that's the overall local concensus.  Moreover, some are showing him the door... in a way.  Here is ALL the LATEST HOT off "the Gridiron Newsstand" (and these are some REAL goodies... I would recommend them all):
 
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-coles113168388mar11,0,393 4558.story?coll=ny%2Djets%2Dheadlines;
 
http://www.nypost.com/sports/jets/31943.htm;
 
http://www.northjersey.com/page.php?qstr=eXJpcnk3ZjczN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXkxMjE mZmdiZWw3Zjd2cWVlRUV5eTYzNTIyNjUmeXJpcnk3ZjcxN2Y3dnFlZUVFeXk2;
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/66115p-61567c.html;
 
http://www.app.com/nfl/jets/story/0,21403,703764,00.html.
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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #5 on: Mar 11th, 2003, 4:05pm »
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The question to ask yourself regarding the Jets, who takes the reigns at the #1 recieiver slot? Wayne Chrebet is to old to be a #1, and is a possession reciever. Santana Moss an Antwaan Randle-El, whom can break free if they get into open field, but won't thrive with staggering numbers at the #1 or #2 reciever slot.
 
And who would be their #3?
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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #6 on: Mar 11th, 2003, 4:33pm »
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The Jets are going to have to draft a WR.  They still have some free agent options out there as well.  Conway would be a solid fit!!  Another good fit would be Dyson.  
 
The other question is what is Pennington going to do without his goto guy?  It is a good thing he is an accurate thrower because his receivers are gonna be covered all the time.
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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #7 on: Mar 11th, 2003, 8:37pm »
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They'd have to either draft one with with one of their first two first rounders, OR...
 
package them and move up to take Charles Rogers, or at least trade one of the number ones and maybe another pick to get Andre Johnson.
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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #8 on: Mar 11th, 2003, 8:43pm »
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on Mar 11th, 2003, 8:37pm, BarnabyWilde wrote:
They'd have to either draft one with with one of their first two first rounders, OR...
 
package them and move up to take Charles Rogers, or at least trade one of the number ones and maybe another pick to get Andre Johnson.

 
Are you citing that from one of the pieces above or did you think that?  If the latter, you are !  That is what at least one of those pieces suggests.  Either way, !  Good point!
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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #9 on: Mar 11th, 2003, 8:50pm »
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COnsidering I hate the Redskins and refuse to read anything about them, I just thought of it Steg...
 
Come on, you want a Giants fan to read Redskin news??    
 
on Mar 11th, 2003, 8:43pm, StegRock wrote:

 
Are you citing that from one of the pieces above or did you think that?  If the latter, you are !  That is what at least one of those pieces suggests.  Either way, !  Good point!

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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #10 on: Mar 11th, 2003, 8:52pm »
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COnsidering I hate the Redskins and refuse to read anything about them, I just thought of it Steg...
 
Come on, you want a Giants fan to read Redskin news??    

 
All those papers cited above are New York/New Jersey-area newspapers!
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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #11 on: Mar 11th, 2003, 8:57pm »
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I realize that. But the subject matter is Foreskin, er, I mean Redskin related!! It'd bad enough I am married to a Redskin fan and have to keep my wife from brainwashing the children, I don't have to read anything, she already tells me about it..
 
 
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All those papers cited above are New York/New Jersey-area newspapers!

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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #12 on: Mar 12th, 2003, 10:50am »
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Remember where you read this first!!!!
Hot off the NewsStand:
 
 
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets123169394mar12,0,3860 959.story?coll=ny%2Dfootball%2Dheadlines
 
 
The New York Jets will pursue restricted free agent Darrell Jackson if they lose Coles.  They would have to give up a first round pick for him.(their own) This move makes sense.  Lose Coles, move up from their pick to the Redskins pick, and get Darrell Jackson.  I do not see that big a drop from Coles to Jackson.   Of course, will the SeaHawks match once the the Jets offer??
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Re: Redskins/Jets and who will Receive?
« Reply #13 on: Mar 12th, 2003, 1:02pm »
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This is a great, fun read.  Points out that while Snyderman is being lauded for jumping on "quality" free-agents this offseason, he may not actually be making the Redskins any better:
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/don_banks/news/2003/03/11/b anks_insider/.
 
Turns a lot of conventional perceptions on their heads.
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Re: Redskins/Jets and who will Receive?
« Reply #14 on: Mar 13th, 2003, 1:27pm »
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Well, the Skins ain't gettin' Morton, who, as per the piece above, was actually the best of all the Redskins potential acquisitions.  The Jets matched!  Here is how the story goes as ripped right off "the Gridiron Newsstand" (with no double-dips on the AP report):
 
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/wire/sns-ap-fbn-jets-morton, 0,2456336.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Djets%2Dheadlines;
 
http://www.nypost.com/sports/jets/32117.htm;
 
http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/view_toparchive.php?id=410.
 
Oh, and ESPN chimed in too:
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/pasquarelli_len/1522873.html.
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Well, it ain't a done deal yet.  Get a load of what ESPN's John Clayton is NOW reporting:
 
"Morton's contract with Jets under fire...  The Chad Morton story isn't over even though the Jets matched the Redskins' offer sheet.  The NFL Players Association has requested an expedited hearing to resolve a dispute in the five-year contract signed by Morton. The Jets didn't match a portion of the contract that voided the fourth and fifth years of the deal. Morton signed the contract with the understanding that it would be a five-year deal that would void to three seasons.  
 
'Chad might be the most fought-over special teams player in history,' said his agent, Leigh Steinberg. 'There is going to be a hearing within 10 days with an arbiter because the Jets failed to match the void in his contract. They claim that they didn't match the void because, in their opinion, it wasn't a principle term of the contract. If we prevail, he would go back to the Redskins.'
 
Steinberg said he contacted the NFLPA once the contract was returned Thursday and didn't include the sections of the contract that had the voids."

 
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Re: Redskins sign Coles to offer sheet!!!
« Reply #16 on: Mar 16th, 2003, 1:55pm »
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Hot off the NewsStand:
 
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-jets123169394mar12,0,3860 959.story?coll=ny%2Dfootball%2Dheadlines
 
The New York Jets will pursue restricted free agent Darrell Jackson if they lose Coles.  They would have to give up a first round pick for him.(their own) This move makes sense.  Lose Coles, move up from their pick to the Redskins pick, and get Darrell Jackson.  I do not see that big a drop from Coles to Jackson.   Of course, will the SeaHawks match once the the Jets offer??

 
Well, reports coming out ESPN now are that the Jets are letting Darrell Jackson fly the coop.  They have decided not to sign him to an offer sheet.  They are now pursuing 49ers restricted free-agent WR Tai Streets.  He is to meet with Jets officials this week.  I can't find any corroboration of this yet on "the Gridiron Newsstand".  So, if you can, please post.  Also, given this latest news, Dirk, you may want to tweak the title of this thread.  I was going to start a whole new thread, but did not think that this was news big enough yet to merit its own thread.  Just a suggestion!
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Re: Jets Offseason: Who will catch the damn ball?
« Reply #17 on: Mar 16th, 2003, 8:08pm »
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Well, got some corroboration of the report above.  Between these two pieces out of "the Gridiron Newsstand" and ESPN, everybody from the likes of Streets, to Marcus Robinson, to Curtis Conway, to Kevin Johnson, to Kevin Dyson, to Antonio Freeman are speculated about:
 
http://www.nj.com/jets/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1047627015227570. xml;
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/pasquarelli_len/1524543.html.
 
The most likely candidate seems to be Streets as it is reported that the Jets and 49ers have already worked out a trade, which would entail the 49ers' signing him and then trading him to the Jets for less than a 1st round pick.  What do you all think?  I think he fits in better than Coles, actually, in the sense that he is different.  Before, Coles, Chrebet, Moss, 6 of one - half a dozen of the other, basically little fast guys.  Whereas, Streets brings size and power to the position with his 6'2", 206-lb. frame.  As such, I think he is a better complement.  I also think he is better than the rest of the guys listed, especially when considering his youth.
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Re: Jets Offseason: Who will catch the damn ball?
« Reply #18 on: Mar 17th, 2003, 3:01pm »
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Well, for whatever it is worth, Peter King of CNN/SI thinks that the Jets should capitalize on Coles's success last season and move on...
 
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/peter_king/news/2003/03/17/ mmqb/
 
...to big rookie wideout Andre Johnson.
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Re: Jets Offseason: Who will catch the damn ball?
« Reply #19 on: Mar 17th, 2003, 3:16pm »
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Sign Marcus Robinson and Curtis Conway.
 
Trust me, these two will be surprisingly good next season.  
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Re: Jets Offseason: Who will catch the damn ball?
« Reply #20 on: Mar 17th, 2003, 9:39pm »
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Here's the absolute latest according to ESPN's John Clayton:
 
"Conway makes pitch to Jets... Curtis Conway completed his visit to the Jets. 49ers receiver Tai Streets preceded him. Conway's pitch to the Jets is that he could easily ease the pain of losing wide receiver Laveranues Coles because they would get value without having sacrifice a first-round choice.  
Conway tried to convince the Jets that his numbers were equal to if not better than the receivers whom the Jets are interviewing. Conway caught 71 passes in 2001 and was on pace to 86-catch season until a shoulder injury cut the 2002 year six games short.  
 
Despite the six missed games, Conway was only 23 catches shy of Coles' two-year numbers and within one touchdown. The Jets are using Tuesday to debate whether to match the seven-year, $35 million deal Coles signed with the Redskins or sign Streets to an offer sheet. The Jets had a visit from Seahawks restricted free agent Darrell Jackson, but they apparently aren't going to make an offer. Kevin Dyson's visit to New York was cancelled by the team late last week.  
 
Conway's point is that over a two-year period, is that he averaged 5.4 catches a game for 79.4 yard, while Coles averaged 5.5 catches and 79 yards a game over the same period."

 
Dyson's out; they seem to like Streets a lot, and Conway makes a hell of a pitch!
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Re: Jets Offseason: Who will catch the damn ball?
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Well, it is now being reported that contract proposals have been exchanged between Streets's agent and the Jets.  Here is the proof right off "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41762-2003Mar17.html.
 
And, as per "the Gridiron Newsstand", the Jets only have until 4:00 p.m. tomorrow to make a decision regarding Coles and they don't seem to be able/willing to match that $13-million signing bonus:
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/68092p-63354c.html.
 
By the way, other teams mentioned courting Streets were the Patriots and Lions. The article also discusses the possibility of Raghib Ismail's going to Washington.
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Re: Jets Offseason: Who will catch the damn ball?
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Dirk, your title change might have been SOME portender.  How about this LATE news out of "the Gridiron Newsstand"?
 
http://www.nypost.com/sports/jets/32407.htm.
 
Just give KEY the "damn ball"!
 
There is more of the lowdown on this, or what I perceive the lowdown might be, being discussed over on our "Buccaneers Off-season Report" thread:
 
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;a ction=display;num=1046384713.
 
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Looks like the Jets interest in Streets was strong, but not strong enough to give the 49ers what they want in compensational picks.  Looks like the 49ers wouldn't take anything less than a 1st rounder.  Strange.  Here is the lowdown:
 
http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/ce/multi/0,1329,6261156_59,00.html
 
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Looks like the Jets interest in Streets was strong, but not strong enough to give the 49ers what they want in compensational picks.  Looks like the 49ers wouldn't take anything less than a 1st rounder.  Strange.  Here is the lowdown:
 
http://cbs.sportsline.com/u/ce/multi/0,1329,6261156_59,00.html

 
Sounds more along the lines of the claims made in the articles linked to on our "49ers Offseason Report" thread:
 
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;a ction=display;num=1048017447.
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