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« on: Mar 12th, 2003, 7:28am »
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Stacey Mack looking for a starting gig...guess will have to see if it comes to fruition. I guess it also depends where Stephen Davis ends up.
 
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Re: Mack, Texans talking...
« Reply #1 on: Mar 12th, 2003, 12:51pm »
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First off, GREAT use of "the Gridiron Newsstand"! Thank you!  But, along the lines of the precedent I am trying to set, it would be nice if the "title" of this thread could be made broader.  This was most recently reasserted in my message on the thread immediately following and the following through on that request exhibited on the second thread below:
 
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Re: Mack, Texans talking...
« Reply #2 on: Mar 12th, 2003, 1:01pm »
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Mack has also stated that he is scheduled to meet with Oakland and Carolina.  The funny thing is Carolina came out and said, "NO, we are NOT scheduled to visit with him."  
 
 
I do however see him signing whereever Stephen Davis does NOT sign.  Carolina or Houston.  In my opinion, he is the second best back available now.  
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #3 on: Mar 15th, 2003, 8:09pm »
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The media here in Houston reported last week that the Texans believe that there is a 75% chance that the Texans will sign Mack after last week's visit.
 
I think that does wonders to improve Houston's rushing attack and cut James Allen's dead weight.  The future of Jonathan Wells just got a little bleaker...
 
I could also see the Texans taking a RB in the 2nd round of the draft if Mack is signed.
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #4 on: Mar 15th, 2003, 8:25pm »
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Jet, all,
 
Don't ya's think that these expansion teams give up on their running backs WAY TOO fast?  I know if Mack goes to Houston, fans will want to be supportive.  But, don't you see "Errict Rhett in Cleveland" written all over the situation.  I mean I think Jonathan Wells, and James Allen for that matter, are gettin' the same raw deal that Travis Prentice, James Jackson, Ben Gay, who all showed some flashes, got in Cleveland.  I mean not every back can be Barry Sanders.  These kinds of teams are not going to have a good running game until their offensive lines are in order.  It does not matter who is back there, even if it is the likes of Barry Sanders... or the great Stacey Mack.
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #5 on: Mar 15th, 2003, 9:13pm »
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Give up on Wells too early?  His average yards per carry was 2.7    ONLY 2.7   I would say that is pretty crappy!  
 
Stacey Macks yards per carry was 4.4   Jax O-line was nothing to write home about.  
 
I think Mack is a huge upgrade over Wells.  Mack is going to fit in great with that offense.  Charlet Casserly likes Mack and thinks he will be a great addition.
 
Just for reference purposes, didn't the guy who thinks Ron Dayne is a future star in the NFL say the following:
 
 
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Don't ya's think that these expansion teams give up on their running backs WAY TOO fast?  I know if Mack goes to Houston, fans will want to be supportive.  But, don't you see "Errict Rhett in Cleveland" written all over the situation.  I mean I think Jonathan Wells, and James Allen for that matter, are gettin' the same raw deal that Travis Prentice, James Jackson, Ben Gay, who all showed some flashes, got in Cleveland.  I mean not every back can be Barry Sanders.  These kinds of teams are not going to have a good running game until their offensive lines are in order.  It does not matter who is back there, even if it is the likes of Barry Sanders... or the great Stacey Mack.  
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #6 on: Mar 15th, 2003, 9:22pm »
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on Mar 15th, 2003, 9:13pm, DirkDiggler wrote:
Just for reference purposes, didn't the guy who thinks Ron Dayne is a future star in the NFL say the following:
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That's not fair.  That's below the belt.  Dayne's situation is unrelated, but, in any case, logically speaking, no, I don't think Dayne is being given a fair chance, either, like those dudes in Cleveland, and now in Houston.  But, ultimately it's apples and oranges.
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #7 on: Mar 15th, 2003, 9:28pm »
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Didn;t mean to strike below the belt.  Just having a little fun making fun of you.  
 
But seriously, do you truly think Wells has a future?  I watched him play numerous times, and he looked horrible.  All kidding aside, he did look like Ron Dayne.  He would take two steps and fall down.  It was bad!  Real bad!!
 
Houston has improved their o-line this offseason, so maybe the he won;t be so scared to run the ball this year.
 
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #8 on: Mar 15th, 2003, 11:43pm »
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Didn;t mean to strike below the belt.  Just having a little fun making fun of you.  
 
But seriously, do you truly think Wells has a future?  I watched him play numerous times, and he looked horrible.  All kidding aside, he did look like Ron Dayne.  He would take two steps and fall down.  It was bad!  Real bad!!
 
Houston has improved their o-line this offseason, so maybe the he won;t be so scared to run the ball this year.

 
All I am going to say is that, simply put, big backs, especially rookies, and weak offensive lines don't mix well; Wells is both and that offensive line fits the description.  That's my take.
 
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I don't know what is up with your problem here.  When you use the "quote" link, the default includes the code for all that stuff.  As long as you don't mess with it, it should display the writer and the time and what-not.  I am perplexed at your problem. ???
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #9 on: Mar 23rd, 2003, 12:16am »
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Houston has improved their o-line this offseason, so maybe the he won;t be so scared to run the ball this year.

 
This is the key...the Texans really need a power rusher in the backfield to take some of the heat off of Carr.  Someone that can pound it between the tackles that will make the D-Line think twice before going full speed at the QB.
 
James Allen is a rush-outside-the-tackles RB.  Wells is also a guy that does not like to take it up the middle <insert sexual inference here>.  Mack is a guy that gets off by pounding it and knocking guys over.  That and he's a decent blocker.
 
It's been quiet on the Mack front since I last posted, so that worries me.
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
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It's been quiet on the Mack front since I last posted, so that worries me.  

 
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I am following the Mack situation closely(cause I traded for him in a keeper league).  There are at least contract talks occuring.  The Texans made an offer on Thursday.  My guess that the contract will be incentive loaded and they are just trying to work out the details.
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
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It's been quiet on the Mack front since I last posted, so that worries me.

 
 
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I am starting to get worried about the Mack situation too.  They made him an offer yet he has not accepted yet.  Does anyone know what the TRUE story is??  I thought they would have wrapped up negotiations by now.....
 
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #12 on: Mar 29th, 2003, 1:09pm »
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BW, I hope you don't mind my giving your thread here a little more character by way of the message icon of the initial post.
 
Dirk, you know where I stand regarding Mack.  Even if he does go to Houston, !
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« Reply #13 on: Mar 30th, 2003, 8:13pm »
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No, not at all!  
 
I really hope Mack signs with the Texans. I think he could be decent as a starter. If he doesn't sign, I think the Texans must be looking at the RB position with their second pick. Maybe Suggs, Johnson if he falls that far, or Smith.
 
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #14 on: Mar 31st, 2003, 10:45am »
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hey men new to the site. Just thought I would give a new view on mack. Every time the jags gave him the ball the guy produced. If he signs with the texans and they get serious about running the ball. Mack could put up serious numbers. 800-950 yds 10 to 12 tds. I'm from ohio and am not a firm beliver in wells he is no more than a low ranking reserve in my opinion. Thanks for hearing me out. 8)
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #15 on: Mar 31st, 2003, 3:30pm »
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Welcome Reap...nice to have newbies come around, especially in the offseason.  I like Mack's running style too...he is almost the Thunder to Taylor's Handicapped Lightning.
 
No more word here from Houston on Mack's situation...I bet that the Texans are waiting until the FA market dries up and Mack has to make the decision to take less money and start in Houston or go back to JAX (especially with Taylor's contract extension).
 
I like the Texans' chances.
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #16 on: Apr 2nd, 2003, 8:28am »
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Another link provided by the GRIDIRON NEWSTAND via the REAL FEED!!!

 
 
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/HOU/6290467
 
Now if the Texans only had a decent O-Line to protect Carr, and if they can sign Mack...maybe they can improve on their impressive first season win total...
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #17 on: Apr 2nd, 2003, 1:19pm »
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Well, here is a little more on the linebacker signings from "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/index.cfm?page_type=sub&cont_id=17 3361.
 
BUT, perhaps more intiguing news, especially for your typical offensive-minded fantasy footballer, HERE is the LATEST on the Texans' courting of RB Stacey Mack HOT off "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/sports/fb/texans/1848037.
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Re: Houston Texans Offseason Update
« Reply #18 on: Apr 3rd, 2003, 5:12am »
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Here is the latest, hot off the REAL FEED

 
Mack signs. I think this is great for him. He will beef up the worst offense in the league last year, and the Texans can concentrate on other concerns via the draft.
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0403/1533284.html
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« Reply #19 on: Apr 3rd, 2003, 11:23am »
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I had mack and moe williams on my roster last year and enjoyed all those touchdowns. They with the help of many others helpped me to the championship. With mack possibly getting full time status this will help his owners to plan for their draft. I will now feel better about my rb sitiation.
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Re: Texans Offseason Update:  Mack Signs!
« Reply #20 on: Apr 5th, 2003, 6:48pm »
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Now that Mack is in the fold, does anyone know what the heck the status is of Boselli?  Everything I have read states that no one knows his status.  Does anyone have the real scoop???
 
What are the local yocals saying?
 
If Boselli is back, with Weigert, the Texans will have a decent line.  Not great, but Mack could be a sleeper.....
 
In addition, I love Macks gamble.  One Year contract. Show him the money at the end of the season???....
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Re: Texans Offseason Update:  Mack Signs!
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JUST read this on "The REAL Feed"...
 
"Stacey Mack, who spent the past four seasons with Jacksonville, is expected to compete with Jonathan Wells for the Texans' starting tailback job."
 
Hmmmm... Mack to "compete with" Wells...  Rhetoric or Reality?  I think "Reality"!  What about you?
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JUST read this on "The REAL Feed"...
 
"Stacey Mack, who spent the past four seasons with Jacksonville, is expected to compete with Jonathan Wells for the Texans' starting tailback job."
 
Hmmmm... Mack to "compete with" Wells...  Rhetoric or Reality?  I think "Reality"!  What about you?

 
 
It's a bunch off bullshit.  Mack will "compete" until the coaching staff looks at the stat sheet and until the first day of training camp.  No way Wells beats him out.....
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Re: Texans Offseason Update:  Mack Signs!
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What are the local yocals saying?

 
The word here in Houston is that Mack was basically guaranteed the starting job by Capers and Casserly, but they couldn't say so pubically, otherwise Wells would have no incentive to work hard.  Also, watching Wells last year and hearing about his training regimine (or lack of one) in the offseason, I don't think there is going to be much competition.
 
The word on the offensive line is that they will be MUCH improved from the injury-riddled nightmare from last year.  They've signed a couple of very solid OL in the offseason.  Boselli also restructured his contract to the minimum with TONS of incentives for his robotic shoulders to get back onto the field.  Boselli has already stated publically that he plans to be back in the fold and has been itching to get started.  Whether his injury will allow him to is another question.
 
I think realistically the Texans are looking at an improvement in their rushing attack, but I wouldn't be expecting a 1,000 yard rusher in 2003.  Heck, I'll take ANY improvement over last year's impotency as a great sign for Mack to get a huge bumpup in salary next year.
 
Let's hope he pans out.
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Re: Texans Offseason Report
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Update:
 
1.  The Texans have already made it official...Andre Johnson, WR Miami will be their 1.03 pick in the draft.  Suggs isn't even being contemplated any more, according to local Houston media.
 
2.  The Texans do not plan on participating in free agency any more in the offseason.  Looks like the only offseason movements they will be making will be related to the draft and/or trades with other teams.
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