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Chiefs Offseason Report
« on: Mar 18th, 2003, 3:52pm »
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Well, HOT off "the Gridiron Newsstand", it is being reported that PK Morten Andersen and the Chiefs just agreed today to a 4-year contract, a contract the Chiefs' brass thinks Andersen, who turns 43 before the season commences, will be able to play out:
 
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news_article.asp?ID=HWZJTW43PWI7RB6IAC2PARX84W.
 
That rips him out of the Giants picture!  Any takes on this?  Does anybody really think he'll be able to play it out?  He'd be 46 when the fourth year of this contract rolls around.
 
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report: Mort gets long-term d
« Reply #1 on: Mar 18th, 2003, 4:00pm »
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I wouldn't bet against him. More hope on my part than anything. Keep him in red and gold as long as keeps his percentage up.  
 
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report: Mort gets long-term d
« Reply #2 on: Mar 19th, 2003, 2:52pm »
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Wow... the Eagles thought Hugh Douglas was too old at 31...
 
I can't imagine he'll play out his contract.  I imagine there is very little (if any) guaranteed money and there are probably plenty of incentive clauses in the contract.
 
Mort has been a great kicker (HoF without a doubt) and should be good for another year.  Keep in mind he was injured this past year.  It won't be long before they can't count on him for those longer FGs.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report: Mort gets long-term d
« Reply #3 on: Mar 20th, 2003, 12:02am »
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Hmmmm... something tells me this deal was made in hopes that he'll break the all time scoring record as a Cheif. Is Gary Anderson still playing? I figure if Mort can play one year longer then Gary, he can pass him.  
 
I'll be shocked if he plays it out.
 
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report: Mort gets long-term d
« Reply #4 on: Mar 20th, 2003, 3:24am »
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on Mar 20th, 2003, 12:02am, Walker Boh wrote:
Hmmmm... something tells me this deal was made in hopes that he'll break the all time scoring record as a Cheif. Is Gary Anderson still playing? I figure if Mort can play one year longer then Gary, he can pass him.  
 
I'll be shocked if he plays it out.
 
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Gary Anderson is currently without contract.  Don't know if he's getting any looks or not. They are close in the scoring battle 2100 something for Mort, 2200 something for Gary. Don't hold me too tight to those numbers, but I feel pretty sure.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #5 on: Mar 23rd, 2003, 5:26pm »
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Some updates out of "the Gridiron Newsstand", both BIG news and small:
 
QB Todd Collins re-signed to continue to serve as Trent Green's primary backup -
 
http://www.chiefzone.com/stories/032303/foo_collins.shtml;
 
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city _chiefs/5451979.htm;
 
Probably of more interest, though, given the Priest's hip injury and contract situation, news on the Chiefs backup tailback hunt includes serious discussion of Shawn Bryson and Dorsey Levens, but talk of Emmitt Smith is all but dismissed:
 
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city _chiefs/5442734.htm.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #6 on: Apr 7th, 2003, 11:49am »
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Vonnie Holliday set to become a Chief. Assuming we got him at a good price I like his deal. He ain't no Hugh, but a good solid end none the less.
 
http://foxsports.lycos.com/content/view?contentId=1042856
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #7 on: Apr 7th, 2003, 11:51am »
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on Apr 7th, 2003, 11:49am, FourTwoOh wrote:
Vonnie Holliday set to become a Chief. Assuming we got him at a good price I like his deal. He ain't no Hugh, but a good solid end none the less.
 
http://foxsports.lycos.com/content/view?contentId=1042856

 
 
Of course, if Fox's sports news is as, uh, accurate as they're war coverage, it could just be that that Von Booker has announced he has plans to go on vacation over the holidays?      
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #8 on: Apr 7th, 2003, 2:43pm »
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on Apr 7th, 2003, 11:51am, FourTwoOh wrote:
Of course, if Fox's sports news is as, uh, accurate as they're war coverage, it could just be that that Von Booker has announced he has plans to go on vacation over the holidays?      

 
Better than Abu-Dabi TV...  They claim that Vonnie Holliday never even played in Green Bay; that he and Vaughn Booker are actually the same person, and that the fact that greater Kansas City is actually in Missouri is an American conspiracy.        
 
Dude, it is a shame you can't get that channel!
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #9 on: Apr 7th, 2003, 3:59pm »
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on Apr 7th, 2003, 2:43pm, StegRock wrote:

 
Better than Abu-Dabi TV...  They claim that Vonnie Holliday never even played in Green Bay; that he and Vaughn Booker are actually the same person, and that the fact that greater Kansas City is actually in Missouri is an American conspiracy.                    
 
Dude, it is a shame you can't get that channel!

 
 
 
If it coming from the Iraq Minister of Infromation, I ain't buyin' it.  
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #10 on: Apr 7th, 2003, 4:19pm »
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on Apr 7th, 2003, 3:59pm, FourTwoOh wrote:

 
If it is coming from the Iraq Minister of Infromation, I ain't buyin' it.  

 
Did you mean if OR unless?
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #11 on: Apr 7th, 2003, 5:17pm »
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on Apr 7th, 2003, 4:19pm, StegRock wrote:

 
Did you mean if OR unless?

 
 
Oooops! If it ain't coming from...kinda kills the joke, huh?  
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #12 on: Apr 7th, 2003, 5:25pm »
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on Apr 7th, 2003, 5:17pm, FourTwoOh wrote:
Oooops! If it ain't coming from...kinda kills the joke, huh?  

 
Well, actually, "If it ain't..." works as does "Unless it is..." (that smiley was added with you in mind, 420)
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #13 on: May 13th, 2003, 8:40am »
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/overview/Chiefs2003.html
 
Off-Season Review of the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #14 on: May 21st, 2003, 4:21pm »
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Anyone have any info on the Chiefs WR battles?
 
Eddie Kennison?  Marc Boerigter?  Johnnie Morton?  Sylvester Morris?  Snoop Minnis?  Dante Hall?
 
Are any going to be released?  Has anyone been penciled in as a starter yet?
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #15 on: May 21st, 2003, 4:30pm »
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Well, I don't have any corroboration, but I think Morton is a goner.  FourTwoOh would know better, though.  Anyway, my gut tells me that the two starting wideouts for the Chiefs this season are going to be Boerigter, who I think is going to bust out of nowhere and potentially have a huge year, and Kennison, who will be serviceable and maybe even slightly improve and be a solid #3-4 fantasy receiver.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #16 on: Jun 11th, 2003, 5:25pm »
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FourTwoOh, any "local lowdown" on the ?
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #17 on: Jun 11th, 2003, 8:52pm »
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Kennison and Morton have indeed swithched spots. Right now the  talk is that Morton makes a better slot rec. Makes sense as that is where he excelled in Detroit.
 
This has one of those "you can read into" angles that it is Morton who will be facing the cometition of Bo, and to a lesser extent, the new kid Horn. Horn is a Arena League "stud", that is getting very good reviews out of the mini camps. Minnis or Morris are most likely fighting for last man standing as Hall makes the team on special teams for sure. Six wide outs is ok, no way they go seven. I'm personally pulling for Morris, but have no indication of which way Vermeil is leaning.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #18 on: Jun 12th, 2003, 1:32am »
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on May 21st, 2003, 4:30pm, StegRock wrote:
Well, I don't have any corroboration, but I think Morton is a goner.

 
disagree.
 
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Boerigter, who I think is going to bust out of nowhere and potentially have a huge year [/quote]
 
Ooooh.  I like it!
 
Problem is you've got Kennison, Morton, Boerighter, Gonzo, Minnis/Morris, and Holmes/Richardson/Johnson.  Too many hyped players on this team which means...
 
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #19 on: Jun 20th, 2003, 9:39pm »
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From "the Gridiron Newsstand", this is a bit of an off-the-beat-and-track, but nevertheless fantasy-relevant, expose.  It tries to make sense of all the "media self-driven" reports/"stories" that have come out this offseason regarding the Priest's injury, and, actually, as fantasy footballers it is just as much our job to "read" the media and "weed through" the information as it is to evaluate players and the situations they are in, i.e. the teams they are on.  With that in mind, this is a great read, especially for over the weekend:
 
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news_article.asp?ID=6GX3JHE7TAI7RB6IAC2PARX84W.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #20 on: Jun 21st, 2003, 2:02pm »
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on Jun 20th, 2003, 9:39pm, StegRock wrote:
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news_article.asp?ID=6GX3JHE7TAI7RB6IAC2PARX84W.

 
Interesting report.  However, he doesn't provide all the information either.
 
He fails to address that:
  • No one has seen Priest run/play at full speed since the injury.
  • The Chiefs refuse to show Priest the money, despite his amazing performance last year.
  • The Chiefs went out and spent their first round pick on a runningback.  You don't do this unless you A) have injury concerns about the back or B) simply don't want the back.
Further, he says people mistake an absence of information on the injury to mean its more serious than it is.  Well, people assume that because in the past that's what it has meant.
 
So, either the author is a retard and can't even follow his own advice by looking through all the facts...
 
or...
 
he had an agenda and omitted information contrary to it.  According to this author--and I avoid using names to avoid making this a flame type situation, even though it is--Priest got injured and had one minor scope on his hip and that's it.
 
That's pretty blind if you ask me.  That's like Fiedler thinking the Dolphins got Griese as purely a backup.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #21 on: Jun 21st, 2003, 3:59pm »
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Though I see your point, Razz, you must admit that comparing a marginal performer, Fiedler, and a top-of-the-liner, Holmes, is a tenuous position to be arguing from.  Logically, I totally follow you.  But, with regards to magnitude, these are VERY different situations.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #22 on: Jun 21st, 2003, 4:27pm »
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That artical looked to me like someone had a deadline to meet and couldn't think of anything better to write about in this slow period. So he wrote about a top NFL RB. He could do this for the next few weeks. He can do TD next , then Favre's retirement, then LA expansion in 2006, and finally Jason Taylor's hang nail. All would have more pertinent info. This was just about how urban legends get started.
Actually i agree with some of you guys now and we should not compare it to Bo...
It really reminds me of the whole Terrell Davis scenario a few years backs. The Denver camp said...he had surgery and is coming along fine...he is running now and "appears to be on schedule...he will participate in all aspects of camp"...THEN all of a sudden when camp got there they saw the setbacks...then after a few weeks they finally announced some issues. You guys are right i stand corrected its not like Bo it's more like TD...Just my $.02.
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #23 on: Jul 10th, 2003, 2:04am »
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on Jul 10th, 2003, 12:18am, DOLFAN wrote:
...I still am amazed at the lack of ANY news from the KC camp about Priest...

 
In particular response to the quote above from the Vikes thread, here is a contrary piece straight off "The REAL Feed":
 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/clayton_john/1578737.html.
 
Quite informative, especially the following line:
 
"Holmes told fantasy fans that he would make himself the No. 1 choice in any fantasy draft because he is so optimistic about his comeback."
 
Can't get more direct than that! Gotta' love that fantasy-specific prognosis right from the horse's mouth! Respect the High Priest!
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Re: Chiefs Offseason Report
« Reply #24 on: Jul 10th, 2003, 10:24am »
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not sure if any of you guys caught wind of Holmes on the radio yesterday but basically he said he is 100% and has been training hard, doing things like pulling tractors across the field, etc.
 
However the big thing coming out of the interview was that he wants to play in 1 preseason game aganist STL and that he won't be playing week 1 without a new contract. He seemed optimistic about getting a new one but the KC brass have been known to play hardball so nobody really know for sure what will happen.
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