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My Top 100 Using VBD
« on: Jun 25th, 2003, 5:56pm »
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Now please take into account that these are based upon my scoring system. The link is provided.
 http://pub.fantasysports.com/leagues/football/ogatta/pontassn.htm  
 
 
 
Player Team Pos Value
1 L. Tomlinson SD RB 251
2 M. Faulk STL RB 222
3 R. Williams MIA RB 212
4 C. Portis DEN RB 205
5 S. Alexander SEA RB 204
6 P. Holmes KC RB 194
7 T. Henry BUF RB 176
8 C. Dillon CIN RB 171
9 D. McAllister NO RB 163
10 M. Harrison IND WR 155
11 T. Barber NYG RB 147
12 R. Moss MIN WR 147
13 F. Taylor JAC RB 141
14 T. Owens SF WR 138
15 A. Green GB RB 136
16 E. James IND RB 122
17 E. Moulds BUF WR 119
18 C. Garner OAK RB 113
19 W. Green CLE RB 111
20 E. George TEN RB 110
21 J. Lewis BAL RB 93
22 J. Horn NO WR 92
23 M. Vick ATL QB 88
24 D. Staley PHI RB 86
25 D. Culpepper MIN QB 84
26 P. Burress PIT WR 81
27 T. Holt STL WR 80
28 A. Toomer NYG WR 73
29 L. Coles WAS WR 73
30 A. Thomas CHI RB 71
31 D. Mason TEN WR 71
32 J. Smith JAC WR 70
33 M. Booker CHI WR 70
34 P. Price ATL WR 69
35 T. Brown NE WR 69
36 D. McNabb PHI QB 67
37 K. Robinson SEA WR 67
38 P. Manning IND QB 65
39 D. Driver GB WR 65
40 H. Ward PIT WR 64
41 D. Boston SD WR 63
42 S. Davis CAR RB 62
43 C. Johnson CIN WR 60
44 R. Gannon OAK QB 54
45 R. Gardner WAS WR 53
46 M. Bennett MIN RB 52
47 W. Dunn ATL RB 50
48 I. Bruce STL WR 50
49 J. Rice OAK WR 48
50 R. Smith DEN WR 48
51 K. Barlow SF RB 47
52 T. Streets SF WR 44
53 J. Garcia SF QB 43
54 K. Johnson TB WR 42
55 Q. Morgan CLE WR 42
56 K. Faulk NE RB 40
57 T. Pinkston PHI WR 40
58 C. Conway NYJ WR 39
59 J. Porter OAK WR 37
60 D. Jackson SEA WR 35
61 S. McNair TEN QB 33
62 C. Martin NYJ RB 33
63 T. Taylor BAL WR 32
64 K. Warner STL QB 29
65 T. Maddox PIT QB 25
66 D. Stallworth NO WR 25
67 C. Rogers DET WR 23
68 J. Thrash PHI WR 19
69 A. Brooks NO QB 18
70 T. Hambrick DAL RB 18
71 R. Wayne IND WR 17
72 T. Green KC QB 16
73 B. Finneran ATL WR 14
74 M. Muhammad CAR WR 11
75 J. Morton KC WR 10
76 D. Bledsoe BUF QB 8
77 K. Collins NYG QB 7
78 C. Bradford HOU WR 6
79 D. Terrell CHI WR 6
80 J. Reed BUF WR 6
81 C. Chambers MIA WR 4
82 J. Stewart DET RB 2
83 J. Galloway DAL WR 2
84 T. Glenn DAL WR 1
85 M. Hasselbeck SEA QB 0
86 A. Zereoue PIT RB 0
87 B. Johnson ARZ WR 0
88  A. Lelie DEN WR 0
89 A. Smith NE RB -2
90 S. Mack HOU RB -2
91 S. Moss NYJ WR -4
92 B. Gilmore ARZ WR -5
93 D. Bates MIN WR -5
94 T. Brown OAK WR -5
95 T. Brady NE QB -6
96 S. Smith CAR WR -7
97 J. Bettis PIT RB -8
98 B. Favre GB QB -10
99 K. Stewart CHI QB -12
100 K. Holcomb CLE QB -13
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Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
« Reply #1 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 8:54pm »
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I'm surprised there hasn't been any comments. I can take negative criticism.  
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Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
« Reply #2 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 9:13pm »
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Your scoring system is very complex... is this something you came up with yourself?  
 
It would be a lot easier to rate/judge your rankings if I understood how the scoring works! I'm sure it becomes second nature after playing in the league for a season or two, but being an outsider just passing through, it's a bit much to digest.
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Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
« Reply #3 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 9:17pm »
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on Jun 25th, 2003, 8:54pm, Sepphoris wrote:
I'm surprised there hasn't been any comments. I can take negative criticism.  

 
Just to be sure:
 
1. How many teams? (looks like 14)
2. How many starters per position?(1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR)
3. What baseline you used? (last starter, last player picked at each position, 150% of starts - which is normally what I use)? (last starter)
 
I like using 150% of baseline, just because it tends so give some value to the bench - it also seems to give the QBs a little more value.
 
Have you used AVT, or any tool similar to that, to make sure your projections are reasonable?  Basically just take previous years historical averages and compare them to yours to see if your numbers are reasonable - I may play with that some here later.
 
As for rankings within the positions:
 
I am surprised you have Tomlinson that far ahead of everyone else - I see the top 3 as being pretty close (my top 3 is actually Portis, LT, and RW though).
 
I have mcNabb as my #1QB, but the top 3 can go any way IMO.
 
I think Laveraneus (sp?) Coles may be a bit high.  I worry about the fact that there are 2 #1s there in Washington and I believe Spurrier has too much of a tendency to spread the ball around for either of them to be a stud.
 
You really don't like Hines Ward do you?
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Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
« Reply #4 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 9:21pm »
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on Jun 25th, 2003, 9:17pm, bgsgfan wrote:

 
 
Have you used AVT, or any tool similar to that, to make sure your projections are reasonable?  Basically just take previous years historical averages and compare them to yours to see if your numbers are reasonable - I may play with that some here later.

 
I can't do anything with your scoring because of the bonus points.    Did your projections include all those bonuses?  If not I can give you something to work off of.
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Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
« Reply #5 on: Jun 25th, 2003, 10:44pm »
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This is all based on projected stats for '03, right?
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Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
« Reply #6 on: Jun 26th, 2003, 1:48am »
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on Jun 25th, 2003, 10:44pm, StegRock wrote:
This is all based on projected stats for '03, right?

 
yes sir
 
 
 
bgs yes the bonus pts are configured in my projections.
I used the last two years of stats and FBG's projections on guys that switched teams. ( Price, Conway, ETC )
I'm not to sure what you mean about the 100% or 150% thing. What I didwas took my line-ups and found the last starter and subtracted that from the rest in that position. I hope I did this right.
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Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
« Reply #7 on: Jun 26th, 2003, 8:08am »
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on Jun 26th, 2003, 1:48am, Sepphoris wrote:

 
 
I'm not to sure what you mean about the 100% or 150% thing. What I didwas took my line-ups and found the last starter and subtracted that from the rest in that position. I hope I did this right.

 
There is no right or wrong way.  What you used was a "last starter" baseline.  If you would have subtracted the 21st QB, 42nd RB, and 63rd WR from each player then it would have been a 150% of starters baseline.  The other popular baseline to use is the "last player drafted" and with that one you subtract the value of the last player you think will be drafted at each position.
 
What I did last year was I mocked at Antsports using each of the different baselines until I decided that the 150% baseline worked best for me.
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