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Opinions on Trades
« on: Nov 11th, 2004, 9:10am » |
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Here are two trades. Please let me know what you think of them.
Trade 1
I give up: David Givens
Get: Willis McGahee
Trade 2:
I give up: David Givens and Thomas Jones
Get: Ahman Green
Are these reasonable offers? I like both of them. What are your thoughts?
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Re: Opinions on Trades
« Reply #1 on: Nov 11th, 2004, 9:13am » |
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If I need to sweeten the first deal. Who would you add?
Here is the other guy's roster:
Manning, Peyton QB IND
Johnson, Rudi RB CIN
McGahee, Willis RB BUF
McCardell, Keenan WR SD
Smith, Rod WR DEN
Graham, Daniel TE NE
Graham, Shayne K CIN
Cardinals, DST DST ARI
Brees, Drew QB SD
Brown, Chris RB TEN
Pittman, Michael RB TB
Williams, Ricky RB MIA
Clayton, Michael WR TB
Robinson, Marcus WR MIN
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WR-Wayne, A.Johnson, C.Johnson
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K-Akers, Gould
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Start-QB,2RB,2WR,TE,K,DST
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Re: Opinions on Trades
« Reply #2 on: Nov 11th, 2004, 11:12am » |
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Both of those deals are whip cream! Trade #1 is an absolute steal! As for acquiring McGahee versus acquiring Green, if this is a keeper league (I am guessing it is as you have Ricky Williams on your roster), I would lean toward McGahee, and the deeper the keeper league, the more I would lean this way; otherwise, I would go with Green. As for sweeteners, I would sweeten with Ricky Williams and Marcus Robinson (if possible) or, again, assuming this is a keeper league, Rod Smith. But, if you throw Smith into the deal, you may need some sweetener back. Good luck! 
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Re: Opinions on Trades
« Reply #3 on: Nov 11th, 2004, 11:44am » |
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Steg Rock
Thanks for the feedback.
The roster listed is the other guy's roster. Mine is at the bottom of my post. Here is a clearer version:
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Trade 1
I receive: McGahee
I give up: Givens
My Roster
Plummer, Jake QB DEN
Faulk, Marshall RB STL
Wheatley, Tyrone RB OAK
Coles, Laveranues WR WAS
Johnson, Chad WR CIN
Gates, Antonio TE SD
Wilkins, Jeff K STL
Bills, DST DST BUF
Rattay, Tim QB SF
Jackson, Steven RB STL
Jones, Thomas RB CHI
Burleson, Nate WR MIN
Givens, David WR NE
Stallworth, Donte' WR NO
Team 1 Roster
Manning, Peyton QB IND
Johnson, Rudi RB CIN
McGahee, Willis RB BUF
McCardell, Keenan WR SD
Smith, Rod WR DEN
Graham, Daniel TE NE
Graham, Shayne K CIN
Cardinals, DST DST ARI
Brees, Drew QB SD
Brown, Chris RB TEN
Pittman, Michael RB TB
Williams, Ricky RB MIA
Clayton, Michael WR TB
Robinson, Marcus WR MIN
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Trade 2
I receive: Green
I give up: Givens and T. Jones
Team 2 Roster
Bledsoe, Drew QB BUF
Barber, Tiki RB NYG
Faulk, Kevin RB NE
Holt, Torry WR STL
Moulds, Eric WR BUF
Campbell, Mark TE BUF
Vinatieri, Adam K NE
Buccaneers, DST DST TB
Favre, Brett QB GB
Green, Ahman RB GB
Pinkston, Todd WR PHI
Swinton, Reggie WR DET
Crumpler, Alge TE ATL
Broncos, DST DST DEN
Do you think that Givens and Jones are enough to make a legitimate bid for Green?
What should I throw in to the McGahee deal if it needs to be sweetened? (I assume that it will need some sweetening.)
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Re: Opinions on Trades
« Reply #5 on: Nov 12th, 2004, 10:41am » |
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You're in a tough spot here. Trade 1 is completely inequitable as you've listed it. He looks to be desperate for WR help, and Givens is hot, so he might pull the trigger here. You don't really have anything to sweeten the pot with though. Gates is too much sugar, but no one else would be enough IMO. Burleson is at the top of his trade value, but with Robinson already on that roster, not sure he'll bite. HERE'S A THOUGHT: See if he likes Burleson more than Robinson and offer Givens + Burleson for MacG & MRob. IMVO (in my Viking opinion), Robinson is the more polished player who will benefit more when Moss returns, so it's a win/win for you.
Trade 2.....WHAT!? 
Why would he ever do this? GB is averaging 35+ pts/gm the last 3 weeks. Their O is on fire, no way is Green tradeable for Givens & Jones. In fact, I see no scenario in which you could make a viable trade offer for him. If you want to insult him, or if you think he's a drooling idiot who might accept a homer trade, try that route; otherwise, save the effort.
Good Luck!
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Re: Opinions on Trades
« Reply #6 on: Nov 12th, 2004, 10:49am » |
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Capt. Purple
I did not think that the second would be very likely. I agree that Green in much better than Jones. The reason that I asked for advice is that I do not know how valuable others perceive Givens to be. I do not like the Patriots, so I have a tendancy to under value Givens. Apparently, I was not under valuing him that much. Thanks for the input. This is why it is good to throw around opinions in this forum.
I may throw out an offer of Burleson, Givens and Jones for Green. We shall see.
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Re: Opinions on Trades
« Reply #7 on: Nov 12th, 2004, 10:54am » |
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you're right, you never know the value someone else might put on Givens. I tend to think he's overvalued at this point too. With Branch returning soon, Brown already back, Bethel Johnson stealing last weeks TD & Graham always in the waiting, he's done very well to post 3 100+ games. I don't see the streak continuing, so I'd do as you are...trade him.
I still doubt the guy bites, but I guess it doesn't hurt to try.
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