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O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« on: Sep 3rd, 2006, 3:25pm » |
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Ok, here is my team on one of my leagues,
QB- Philip Rivers, Brad Johnson
RB- Tiki Barber, B. Westbrook, D. McCallister, R. Bush
WR- T.O., A. Bryant, Keyshaw Johnson, Kelley Washington
TE - Jeremy Shockey
K - John Kasay
D- Cowboys
Starting lineup: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 PK, 1 Def
Passing: 25yds =1pt. 300yds = bonus 5
Rushing: 10yds = 1pt. 100yds = bonus 5
Receiving: 10yds = 1pt. 100yds = bonus 5
Touchdowns = 6pts.
I have been offered R. Bush and A. Bryant for Reggie Wayne and W. Lundi.
I think it is a sure fire deal, but getting rid of Reggie this season seems like it would not be prudent. I really think he will have much better production than Harrison this year because Marvin is WAY over due for an injury. And I really think Lundi will have a lot of upside this season. And I will get a mediocre 3 WR but the handcuff to Deuce.
Should I have already hit the accept button?
thanks,
O4L
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Re: Trade offer
« Reply #1 on: Sep 3rd, 2006, 7:17pm » |
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Well, if it's a DEEP keeper, I say, "Yes!" If not, I say, "NO!"
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Re: Trade offer
« Reply #2 on: Sep 3rd, 2006, 7:48pm » |
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I wouldnt go so far as saying DEEP like the GoTG, but it is 14 teams, 1 keeper. And I can keep a RB next year.
So, maybe I'll just sweat it out for the next few weeks with McCallister as my back up.
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RB- LT2, F. Gore, S. Young, K. Keith
RC- Ocho Cinco, G. Jennings, K. Curtis, J. Jerevicous
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Re: Trade offer
« Reply #3 on: Sep 3rd, 2006, 8:07pm » |
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Oak, That's a great trade for you in any format, you are crazy not to take it, especially in a keeper league.
First off your RBs are good, but Bush makes a better keeper than Westbrook, McAllister or Barber.
Secondly, Antonio Bryant is not that much of a drop-off from Wayne. Wayne is a quintessential #2 receiver, he's only valuable because Peyton Manning throws to him. Bryant should be the top target in an offense that needs to throw alot.
Thirdly, (Is that a word ?), Lundi is a fashionable commodity right now, but Morency is the better runningback and should steal a bunch of carries, if not eventually take the job outright. (Assuming the Texans don't sign anyone else).
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Re: Trade offer
« Reply #4 on: Sep 3rd, 2006, 8:38pm » |
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on Sep 3rd, 2006, 8:07pm, junkyardjake wrote:| Secondly, Antonio Bryant is not that much of a drop-off from Wayne. Wayne is a quintessential #2 receiver, he's only valuable because Peyton Manning throws to him. Bryant should be the top target in an offense that needs to throw alot. |
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But, how successfully??? The preseason may have fooled us. I think, like what you say below about Lundi, Bryant seems A LOT better right now than what he WILL end up being.
In any event, an Indy #2 is a mere #2. And, furthermore, just because he's been stuck by a great, doesn't make him a mere #2. I think he could be a #1. In any event, I think the jury hasn't come a conclusion on that one.
Bottom line, I STRONGLY DISagree.
Quote:| Thirdly, (Is that a word ?), Lundi is a fashionable commodity right now, but Morency is the better runningback and should steal a bunch of carries, if not eventually take the job outright. (Assuming the Texans don't sign anyone else). |
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No need to reword this... Bottom line, I STRONGLY AGREE!
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Re: Trade offer
« Reply #6 on: Sep 3rd, 2006, 9:12pm » |
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By way of example, Randy Moss is perhaps a prototypical #1 receiver.
I say Reggie Wayne is a #2, because of his physical attributes. He is not particularly fast, or dominating size-wise, he's just a good football player. Probably the reason you like him so much, is that he is very similiar to one of your favorite guys, Hines Ward.
Antonio Bryant is a similiar player, I don't think he's a true #1 either, he doesn't have the deep speed.
On paper, Wayne and Bryant had almost identical statistical seasons in 2005, 1,000 yards 4-5 TDs. I just have more faith in Alex Smith I guess. I think he will be much improved over last year, especially now that he is playing in Norv Turners offense (which is simplier than that jackass version of the West Coast they were running last year).
btw, as we speak, you have probably heard that Ron Dayne is now a Texan, so Lundy's value probably took an additional hit.
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Re: Trade offer
« Reply #7 on: Sep 3rd, 2006, 10:51pm » |
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Thanks for the input guys 
I accepted the trade. I was thinking along the lines of what JYJ stated about keeping R. Bush over my other RB's for next year. I hate losing Wayne, but I feel Wayne for Bush is a solid trade. I appreciate the help from you all  Thank you
O4L
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #8 on: Sep 13th, 2006, 1:17pm » |
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I have updated my team lineup in the beginning post.
My dilemma is this, Tiki and Westbrook are playing against eachother this week and I don't think starting both of them would be prudent. I am thinking of starting Reggie Bush @ GB this week over Westbrook. What do yous think?
Also, Joe Horn has me worried now. Should I start Keyshawn @ MIN this week over Horn? Any response would help alot.
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #9 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 12:01pm » |
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #10 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 2:00pm » |
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The Texas just traded Morency for Gado. Dayne and Gado are both pretty decent threats to take carries away from Lundi. This is another reason you made the right call.
I had Horn all last year and continually thought he would turn it around. He did not really do so. As for Keyshawn, I am not a huge fan. I would stick with Horn. He is the better receiver.
As for Bush, I would keep him on the bench this week.
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #11 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 4:29pm » |
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on Sep 13th, 2006, 1:17pm, Oakland4life wrote:I have updated my team lineup in the beginning post.
My dilemma is this, Tiki and Westbrook are playing against eachother this week and I don't think starting both of them would be prudent. I am thinking of starting Reggie Bush @ GB this week over Westbrook. What do yous think?
Also, Joe Horn has me worried now. Should I start Keyshawn @ MIN this week over Horn? Any response would help alot.
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I like Reggie Bush against GB, but I wouldn't start him over Brian Westbrook. BWB has done well against the Giants in his career and is still the starting RB for an Eagles team with a very good offense. There's no reason why Tiki and BWB can't both have good days... But, if you're convinced that you can't start both of them, then go with Tiki and Reggie Bush and you should be fine.
For WR, I think you'll be safe with Keyshawn since Steve Smith is (apparently) still going to be out. But Joe Horn is the #1 option at WR for the Saints with an experienced QB and a very weak defense to play against. I don't know why you'd let one poor showing send you into panic mode.
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #12 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 5:48pm » |
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I'm with Phil, KevRock... You gotta play it conservative here... You do NOT bench Tiki, and I say you go with Westbrook. BUT, again, like Jeff said, if you just have a hunch about Bush this week, go for it. It does look like a GREAT week to field him... But, then again, won't there be lots of those hunches with Reggie alllllll yeeeeear loooooong. Can't you just wait until Tiki's and Westbrook's bye-weeks to satisfy your hunch(es)? If you can, then that is what I would recommend. If not, go for it. It's probably a decent (though, I think, unnecessary) roll of the dice. And, as for your receiver sitch,... Horn has you worried, but Keyshawn doesn't!!! Come on! You GOT TO NOT get jelly legs and stick with "your" guy and go with Horn here! Good luck! 
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #13 on: Sep 14th, 2006, 7:16pm » |
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Thanks a million for the input guys. Joe Horn has me frettn because I also owned him last year. Im not in panic mode.....yet..... but because of the turmoil I went through with him last year, I am probably quicker to bench him this year.
As far as Reggie, I will go ahead and just feel good about him scoring points on my bench. My main goal for attaining Reggie this year was so he can be my keeper for next year. So, I guess I can wait it out and feel good when my studs have a bye and THEN I can give Reggie the rock.
You guys rock  THANKS!!!
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #15 on: Oct 5th, 2006, 11:34pm » |
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Ok, here is my dillema. I am starting B. Johnson and I am now starting Troy Williamson for the double whammy against Detroit this week.
Keyshawn is playing against a banged up Cleveland secondary, and A. Bryant is also playing against a banged up Raiders secondary. Who do you think I should start? Bryant, or Keyshawn?
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RC- Ocho Cinco, G. Jennings, K. Curtis, J. Jerevicous
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« Reply #20 on: Oct 13th, 2006, 12:09am » |
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Ok, please someone tell me Im NOT crazy, but this week I am benching Tiki Barber for Deuce McCallister.
I really do not like Tiki's matchup this week against the Falcons, and I feel pretty good about having deuce to replace him. Whatya think?
Also, my starting WR lineup are ALL projected BUSTS this week. Anyone lend a hand in that dept? Thanks for any and all input.
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #21 on: Oct 13th, 2006, 9:49am » |
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 You're crazy  ...but in this scenario, you're making the right call. 
The Falcons have only given 20 pts to RBs ALL YEAR! And they're getting Abraham back. The Eagles have allowed 49 pts so far (more than double!) The only risk is, if McNabb has another great game and gets the Eagles up early, it'll be more Reggie than Deuce. But with the Falcons being so tough vs. the run, and Brandon Jacobs stealing the tough running yards, I'd go with the Deuce.
As for WRs, yeah, that's tough. Moss would be a must start if it weren't for his QB sitch. As long as you're staring Westy (which I'm assuming), then I'd go with Horn. If you are starting both Bush and Deuce (risky), I'd go with Moss.
Come to that, have you considered Reggie over Deuce? Again, if the Eagles are up early, you could see a lot more of him than Deuce, especially late.
Good luck!
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3 straight underperforming seasons, one nitwit head coach, 2 problem child WRs, 1 collosal trade bungle....but a wild boat party with booze and hookers!!!????? Priceless.
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #22 on: Oct 13th, 2006, 3:10pm » |
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Well, I have contemplated putting Reggie in, but I'm a little more confident in the Saint's D'. I'm thinking it will be similiar to the Cowboys game last week. Tough fought game till about the mid 4th Qtr. then the Eagles will run away with it. Hopefully by then, Deuce will already have amassed a TD and good yardage.
Thanks for the input.
P.S. TEAM UPDATE...... I have just traded off Randy Moss and Joe Horn for Terrell Owens. I think this was a good move considering each WR's schedules and QB situation. So I will be starting Terrell Owens against Houston this week Wooot!!
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Re: O4L's Trade/Lineup help thread
« Reply #24 on: Oct 14th, 2006, 2:17am » |
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on Oct 13th, 2006, 4:08pm, captainpurple wrote:
REALLY!?!? ... I don't know if I see it similarly. Good luck, though, KevRock. 
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