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Packers Offseason Report
« on: Mar 4th, 2008, 11:43am »
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Say it aint so Brett!
 
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #1 on: Mar 4th, 2008, 3:29pm »
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It is so...
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8070597b&template=with-vide o&confirm=true
 
Welcome to the Aaron Rodgers era.  
 
Yes, that means everyone can forget that the 'v' comes before the 'r' in Favre and start trying to remember that there is a 'd' in Rodgers.  
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #2 on: Mar 4th, 2008, 6:06pm »
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It would be interesting to know if...
 
1.  If Favre manned-up and mentored Rodgers while Rodgers waited.
 
2.  If Favre takes a broadcast job, does he have to shave.
 
3.  Will Rodgers have anything at DB.
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #3 on: Apr 4th, 2008, 8:37pm »
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False alarm... according to "The REAL Feed":
 
Favre: Return to NFL is 'last thing I'm thinking about
USA TODAY: Sports (04.04.2008 12:10)
Brett Favre is moving to squelch rumors he's considering aborting the retirement he announced last month. The former Packers ...
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #4 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 5:02pm »
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Who'd a thunk it, right???  From "The REAL Feed":
 
Source: Favre in touch with Packers about return
ESPN: NFL (02.07.2008 16:52)
With his family "tugging" on him to play, Brett Favre has an "itch" to come out of retirement and report to training camp with the Green Bay Packers later this month, according to sources close to the team and player.
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #5 on: Jul 2nd, 2008, 11:58pm »
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OK.  I don't have time to go for the links.  The thing that happened was that a couple or few weeks ago Brett and his agent talked to the Packers about Brett coming back.  In the end, the Pack told Brett that they had just spent the offseason working on life after Brett - and they didn't want him back.  Brett said that he therefore wanted to be released rather than retired.  The Packers said no - if he didn't retire, they would keep him and trade him rather than give him 10 mil.
 
Hey, Brett....
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #6 on: Jul 3rd, 2008, 6:50pm »
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Intriguing editorial, documentary piece regarding the potential Favre comeback... currently topping "The REAL Feed":
 
Seifert: History working against Favre-less Packers
ESPN: NFL (03.07.2008 16:43)
Brett Favre reportedly still has the desire to play. Should the Packers want him to return? Well, teams do tend to struggle the year after losing a Hall of Fame QB, writes Kevin Seifert.

 
The implicit answer as I read it...  Favre comeback...
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #7 on: Jul 8th, 2008, 5:06pm »
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Nothing too small not to report on this front...  From "The REAL Feed":
 
Report: Favre sends text message to Packers GM
ESPN: NFL (08.07.2008 10:16)
Brett Favre sent a text message to Packers GM Ted Thompson on Saturday, but Thompson replied was that he is on vacation and the two men will have to talk later, according to media reports.
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #8 on: Jul 11th, 2008, 6:17pm »
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Favre officially pushing the envelope on this...  He really does want to come back...  HOT off "The REAL Feed":
 
Favre asks Packers for release to play elsewhere
CBS SportsLine.com NFL News (11.07.2008 17:34)
Brett Favre wants the Green Bay Packers to release him so he can return to the NFL with another team, according to an ESPN report.

 
Could you imagine Favre in a uni other than the Packers???  Yikes!!!
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #9 on: Jul 11th, 2008, 8:04pm »
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on Jul 11th, 2008, 6:17pm, StegRock wrote:
Favre officially pushing the envelope on this...  He really does want to come back...  HOT off "The REAL Feed":
 
Favre asks Packers for release to play elsewhere
CBS SportsLine.com NFL News (11.07.2008 17:34)
Brett Favre wants the Green Bay Packers to release him so he can return to the NFL with another team, according to an ESPN report.

 
Could you imagine Favre in a uni other than the Packers???  Yikes!!!

 
The Packers' response... currently tops "The REAL Feed":
 
Packers respond to Favre's request for release
The Sports Network: NFL (11.07.2008 18:52)
 
Doesn't look the Packers are budgin'...
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #10 on: Jul 11th, 2008, 9:26pm »
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Well.... Joe Montana was a Chief at the end of his career.  That was weird at first but still cool to watch.  I guess this is hardly a surprise.  
 
As a Redskins' fan, even though I like Jason Campbell, I can't help to think how exciting it would be to play for my team or even the Jets, who I root for locally.  It seems like the Packers have moved on so it will be interesting to see where Farve ends up.  I could also see him in K.C., Buff, or San Fran but cannot picture him in a Dolphin uniform (I don't know why) and certainly not as a Bear or Viking for obvious reasons.
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #11 on: Jul 12th, 2008, 6:07am »
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Well, here's what USA Today thinks, DB...  From "The REAL Feed":
 
Where would Favre go? Ten places he could call home
USA TODAY: Sports (11.07.2008 23:16)
With Brett Favre seeking his release from the Green Bay Packers, the question many NFL fans want answered is where should the ...
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #12 on: Jul 12th, 2008, 6:02pm »
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Jets are at least saying, "Thank you, but no thank you," right now...  This LOCAL report currently tops "The REAL Feed":
 
Source: Jets won't pursue Favre
New York Daily News: Sports - Football (12.07.2008 17:11)
The Jets have virtually ruled out pursuing Brett Favre if the Packers trade or release him. "It's a long shot right now that the Jets have any interest," an NFL source familiar with the Jets' thinking told the Daily News Saturday.
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #13 on: Jul 13th, 2008, 4:11am »
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But, maybe the Pack will keep him around after all... according to what's currently atop "The REAL Feed":
 
Thompson talks about Favre situation, says Rodgers is starter
The Sports Network: NFL (13.07.2008 02:34)
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #14 on: Jul 13th, 2008, 4:31pm »
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The moment-to-moment on this... currently topping "The REAL Feed":
 
Rally held to pressure Packers to reinstate Favre
SI.com: NFL (13.07.2008 15:19)
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #15 on: Jul 13th, 2008, 9:13pm »
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I've always been a Favre fan, but I think he put the Pack in a really bad spot. He needs to either stay retired or accept being a back-up to Rodgers.
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« Reply #16 on: Jul 13th, 2008, 10:09pm »
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on Jul 13th, 2008, 9:13pm, Philly wrote:
I've always been a Favre fan, but I think he put the Pack in a really bad spot. He needs to either stay retired or accept being a back-up to Rodgers.

 
4100+ YDS...28 TD'S...1 GAME FROM THE SUPERBOWL   SEEMS TO ME THE PACKERS ARE NOT CONSIDERING THAT LITTLE TIDBIT!! STAY RETIRED WHEN YOU HAVE THIS POTENTIAL...NO...FAVRE BACKING UP RODGERS IS ABSURD! START HIM OR TRADE HIM.
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« Reply #17 on: Jul 13th, 2008, 10:22pm »
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on Jul 13th, 2008, 10:09pm, MordecaiCourage wrote:

 
4100+ YDS...28 TD'S...1 GAME FROM THE SUPERBOWL   SEEMS TO ME THE PACKERS ARE NOT CONSIDERING THAT LITTLE TIDBIT!! STAY RETIRED WHEN YOU HAVE THIS POTENTIAL...NO...FAVRE BACKING UP RODGERS IS ABSURD! START HIM OR TRADE HIM.

 
Hmm... I don't know that I need to be YELLED at!
 
Anyway... I agree that the Packers should try to trade him. However, it's likely that his trade value is close to nil right now because of the situation.
 
I don't agree that the Packers should bend over backwards to accomodate Favre. They've been very generous to him as a franchise. Each year for the past few they've had to deal with the uncertainty of his return--his little ruse of potential retirement. Now he finally retires, so the Pack go out and name Rodgers the starter (and likely start building an offense around his particular skill set) and they also use two draft picks (including #56 overall) to add depth to the position because Favre is gone.  
 
I have a LOT more sympathy for the franchise than the player in this situation.
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #18 on: Jul 13th, 2008, 11:25pm »
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on Jul 13th, 2008, 10:22pm, Philly wrote:

 
I have a LOT more sympathy for the franchise than the player in this situation.

 
I agree with Philly.  This last line of his says it all.  They've moved on.  Period.  
 
Reminds me somehow about . . . a boy . . . and crying wolf.
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« Reply #19 on: Jul 14th, 2008, 12:31am »
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With the aforementioned stats, I doubt his trade value is anywhere close to nil, regardless of the situation!! To me a situation that would keep a player from having any trade value would be that he's a cancer of some sort...Brett is no where near that, unless you call his desire to play a cancer. Maybe if his name was Brett "Pacman" Favre or something like that I could see a team not wanting to mess with him, but c'mon. If they have indeed moved on as suggested, then trade him. I believe that is what he wants if he can't have the reigns back. Besides, the Packers can get more out of a trade then to have him in a back-up role couldn't they.
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Re: Packers Offseason Report
« Reply #20 on: Jul 14th, 2008, 6:13am »
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on Jul 13th, 2008, 10:22pm, Philly wrote:
... so the Pack go out and name Rodgers the starter (and likely start building an offense around his particular skill set)

 
I think that (mainly the part in bold) is being overblown.  How many times does an injury claim a starter and the back-up plays lights out?  Going back to Farve cannot be that rough of a transition.
 
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... they also use two draft picks (including #56 overall) to add depth to the position because Favre is gone.

 
I do agree that, with Favre coming back, the drafting of Brohm does create a glut at the position for the team.  But, hey, getting Brohm some Favrian tutelage can't be a bad thing.
 
on Jul 13th, 2008, 10:09pm, MordecaiCourage wrote:
4100+ YDS...28 TD'S...1 GAME FROM THE SUPERBOWL   SEEMS TO ME THE PACKERS ARE NOT CONSIDERING THAT LITTLE TIDBIT!! STAY RETIRED WHEN YOU HAVE THIS POTENTIAL...NO...FAVRE BACKING UP RODGERS IS ABSURD! START HIM OR TRADE HIM.

 
THIS, I do think is being played down, and that, not to indicate a raising of his voice, is why I think MC put it all in caps, PhilMaster.
 
...
 
At the end of the day, he's human,... and through all this we are learning about his personality.  He LOVES football, and he's an indecisive guy when it comes to ending his career (DULY NOTE FROM HERE ON OUT).  I'm not saying he's gone about this the best way possible.  It is what it is; it is who he is, and it is becoming a (negative) part of the person he is authoring himself to be.  But, worse crimes have been committed (by active NFL players).  He should have waited until he was absolutely certain, it can be said.  But, again, he's human.  Maybe, at that time, he was "absolutely certain".  And, then his mind changed.  That was then.  This is now.  That's the human factor.  People's minds change.  The problem isn't so much that Brett changed his mind as it is that the Pack can't handle it.  In fact, Brett's changing his mind isn't the problem (by definition).  If you think it through, it's a problem (quite literally) for the Pack, not Brett.
 
I can't help thinking that one dude could put this all to rest by taking the high road.  How cool would it be if Aaron Rodgers came out and said, "I welcome my brother, mentor and father figure, Brett, back with arms wide-open and fully welcome the opportunity to receive another season of tutelage from him and further observe first-hand (what) greatness (is like) so I can better emulate it???"  I also can't help thinking that this is much ado about nothing.  Plugging "Brett Favre" back in "Green Bay" after the season he and the team had last year just doesn't seem like it should be a difficult proposition at all.
 
All rhetoric aside, I think the Pack will have cut off their nose to spite their face if they let Brett go and proceed with Aaron...
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« Reply #21 on: Jul 14th, 2008, 6:01pm »
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With the aforementioned stats, I doubt his trade value is anywhere close to nil, regardless of the situation!! To me a situation that would keep a player from having any trade value would be that he's a cancer of some sort...Brett is no where near that, unless you call his desire to play a cancer. Maybe if his name was Brett "Pacman" Favre or something like that I could see a team not wanting to mess with him, but c'mon. If they have indeed moved on as suggested, then trade him. I believe that is what he wants if he can't have the reigns back. Besides, the Packers can get more out of a trade then to have him in a back-up role couldn't they.

 
I'm not saying that Favre is a cancer or a bad guy or anything... far from it. But the fact remains that teams will be hesitant to trade for a player who his own team isn't all that interested in having back. Why trade for him when it's possible that he'll eventually be granted his release. (And that's not to mention his current contract. I don't know what kind of cap hit the Pack takes if they trade him, but I thought I saw his current deal still had 3 years and $39 million on it.) And even if the Pack manage to find a trade partner, are we sure that Brett will just pack his bags and go play for some team that has no shot to make a playoff run, with or without Favre?
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I can't help thinking that one dude could put this all to rest by taking the high road.  How cool would it be if Aaron Rodgers came out and said, "I welcome my brother, mentor and father figure, Brett, back with arms wide-open and fully welcome the opportunity to receive another season of tutelage from him and further observe first-hand (what) greatness (is like) so I can better emulate it???"

Huh? Aaron Rodgers comes out and gives Favre an invite to step back into the starting role and the Packers front office and coaching staff will then see that it happens? Honestly, I don't think the brass really care what Rodgers wants to happen here.
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« Reply #23 on: Jul 14th, 2008, 11:23pm »
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Huh? Aaron Rodgers comes out and gives Favre an invite to step back into the starting role and the Packers front office and coaching staff will then see that it happens? Honestly, I don't think the brass really care what Rodgers wants to happen here.

 
Well, if that's the case, that's just messed up.  But, anyway, I don't mean that Rodger's should say this to the media.  I mean behind closed doors with the team.  Regardless of what the team wants to do, I think that would be the totally stand-up thing to do, and I don't see how the team could see it otherwise.
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Well, if that's the case, that's just messed up.  But, anyway, I don't mean that Rodger's should say this to the media.  I mean behind closed doors with the team.  Regardless of what the team wants to do, I think that would be the totally stand-up thing to do, and I don't see how the team could see it otherwise.

 
I just wonder why Aaron Rodgers has to be the stand-up guy here. I would think the stand-up thing would be for Favre to just stay retired and stop screwing around with Aaron Rodgers--a guy who has very patiently taken the high road for a few years now while waiting for his shot to run the team.
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