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« on: Feb 5th, 2004, 10:58am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
I'd rank him behind Jackson, and the Jones boys (Kevin and Greg) but ahead of Chris Perry.
 
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpNWZic251BF9TAzI1NjY0ODI1BH NlYwN0aA--?slug=ap-clarett-nfl&prov=ap&type=lgns
 
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7065027
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #1 on: Feb 5th, 2004, 12:51pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
The question now is:  Does Clarett enter the draft or return to Ohio State (as he said he might do)?
 
I think the judge made the only decision she could.  But I still don't agree with it.  I like the system the way it was.
 
Anyway, Clarett is clearly not a first-round pick. He had injury issues as a freshman at OSU and has off-field concerns as well.  I think he could go in the second round, but would not be surprised to see him drop to the third round.
 
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Here is another take on the situation from Pat Kirwan (of nfl.com).  I really like his work and think he nailed this one.
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/6630186
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #2 on: Feb 5th, 2004, 7:00pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
I would agree with the ranking of 4th best back.  
 
I see him going early in the second round.  Can you say Oakland Raiders?
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #3 on: Feb 6th, 2004, 7:21am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
Well, let's not speak too quickly!  Here is the latest from "The REAL Feed":
 
NFL plans to appeal Maurice Clarett ruling
NFL.com (05.02.2004 21:12)
 
It sounds to me like the NFL has very just basis to have this ruling overturned.  It really opens a Pandora's Box.  I can empathize with the NFL's position.
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #4 on: Feb 6th, 2004, 8:25am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
on Feb 6th, 2004, 7:21am, StegRock wrote:
Well, let's not speak too quickly!  Here is the latest from "The REAL Feed":
 
NFL plans to appeal Maurice Clarett ruling
NFL.com (05.02.2004 21:12)
 
It sounds to me like the NFL has very just basis to have this ruling overturned.  It really opens a Pandora's Box.  I can empathize with the NFL's position.

 
You can empathize all you want.  I tend to empathize with them too. However, Legally they are going to lose.
 
I believe the only way to stop Sophmores and Freshman LEGALLY from entering the draft is to put it in the Collective Bargaining Agreement(CBA).   I am not sure it would make it in or not.  Obviously the older veterans would be in favor of it, but I doubt the younger players would.  
 
This is going to be an interesting off-season.
 
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #5 on: Feb 6th, 2004, 8:38am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
I think if he were eligible last year Clarett would have easily been a 1st round pick maybe even ahead of McGahee.  But that was a VERY weak RB class.  This year it's a much different story.
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« Reply #6 on: Feb 6th, 2004, 11:05am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
This year's RB class isn't all that strong.  You have two studs and then a lot of questions.
 
Anyway, it will be interesting since the NFL is appealing the decision.  I expect the courts to uphold the initial ruling, but the NFL will certainly encourage its owners to blackball Clarett during the draft.  (Jerry Jones and Al Davis, both owners who could use a RB, however, don't always do what the league encourages them to do.)
 
It will be fun to watch.
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #7 on: Feb 15th, 2004, 9:55pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
You were right DD...  From "The REAL Feed":
 
The saga continues: Clarett entering NFL Draft
The Sports Network: NFL (11.02.2004 15:46)  
 
Stay for NFL refused; Clarett to enter draft
ESPN: NFL (11.02.2004 15:36)
 
Judge denies NFL's request in Clarett case
NFL.com (11.02.2004 14:41)
 
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #8 on: Mar 6th, 2004, 6:55pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
The fallout...  Currently second on "The REAL Feed":
 
Six high schoolers apply for NFL Draft
SI.com: NFL (06.03.2004 18:12)
 
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #9 on: Mar 31st, 2004, 11:53am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
And, the saga continues...  HOT off "The REAL Feed":
 
Early NFL Draft entrees possibly in jeopardy
The Sports Network: NFL (31.03.2004 01:53)
 
Talk about havin' the red... tape rolled out for ya!
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #10 on: Apr 1st, 2004, 8:02pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
Just updating...  The most recent report on "The REAL Feed" regarding this:
 
Court to hear NFL's Clarett appeal before draft
ESPN: NFL (01.04.2004 19:59)
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #11 on: Apr 6th, 2004, 1:59pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
I DIGRESS...
    There had been at the time back in early February a reason justifying this thread's remaining in "the Red Zone" and not being moved to "between the 20's".  That reason has long passed.  As such, I am now going to move this thread to the "between the 20's" board where it is, at least at this point, more appropriate.  Thank you for your anticipatively understanding.
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #12 on: Apr 16th, 2004, 6:00pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
Here's the absolute latest, currently atop of "The REAL Feed":
 
NCAA files brief favoring NFL in Clarett case
ESPN: NFL (16.04.2004 14:23)
 
Worth taking a look-see at the NCAA's perspective.
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Re: Clarett ruled eligible for the NFL draft!!
« Reply #13 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 3:47pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
The Clarett decision is reversed!
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7267101
 
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« Reply #14 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 5:05pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
on Apr 19th, 2004, 3:47pm, Philly wrote:
The Clarett decision is reversed!
 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7267101
 

 
Clarification...the lower court ruling is stayed.  The judges decided the NFL might have a case.  This stay can easily be lifted on appeals.  IMO, Clarett and Williams WILL be in the NFL draft.
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« Reply #15 on: Apr 19th, 2004, 6:39pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
Here is more on this "latest" ruling from ESPN, available on "the Gridiron Newsstand":
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft04/news/story?id=1785560.
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« Reply #16 on: Apr 20th, 2004, 10:47am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
More details on this latest ruling from the top of "The REAL Feed":
 
Court reverses field on Clarett
Miami Herald: Sports (20.04.2004 02:55)
Overturning an earlier decision allowing young football players to enter the draft, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals supports the NFL's right to set guidelines.Running back Maurice Clarett's hopes of an early release from school were dashed Monday, at least for the moment, along with the Dol...
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« Reply #17 on: Apr 22nd, 2004, 2:57pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
Supreme Court says Clarett won't be in this weekends draft
 
http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7274470
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« Reply #18 on: Apr 22nd, 2004, 10:09pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
This is a bunch of BS! The laws and our court system are hard at work swimming in red tape.  
They need to let the teams decide who the best players are by who goes on the field.  
(Cryin') Ryan Leaf is a turd and Lawrence Phillips retired Steve Young all on his own.  
Let them play and decide it on the field.  
 
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« Reply #19 on: Apr 22nd, 2004, 11:08pm »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
on Apr 22nd, 2004, 10:09pm, DOLFAN wrote:
This is a bunch of BS! The laws and our court system are hard at work swimming in red tape.  
They need to let the teams decide who the best players are by who goes on the field.  
(Cryin') Ryan Leaf is a turd and Lawrence Phillips retired Steve Young all on his own.  
Let them play and decide it on the field.  
 
More on this later.

 
 
 
 Huh?  What does Ryan Leaf, Lawrence Phillips, or Steve Young have to do with this?  And how did Lawrence Phillips retire Steve Young?
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« Reply #20 on: Apr 23rd, 2004, 1:09am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
I'm in China boiling up some water for some tea.
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« Reply #21 on: Apr 23rd, 2004, 1:23am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
Back to the task at hand...  The latest off "The REAL Feed":
 
Supreme Court turns down Clarett's request
NFL.com (22.04.2004 14:33)
Maurice Clarett's bid to enter the NFL draft was turned down by the Supreme Court.
 
Looks like Clarett and Williams will not be part of this weekend's festivities.
 
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« Reply #22 on: Apr 23rd, 2004, 6:56am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
I support the decision. Younger players, for the most part, are not physically ready to play in the NFL. Of course there are exceptions, but if the NFL wants to have a certain eligibility rule, then they have every right to do so.  I have no desire to see the NFL become overladen with ill-prepared high-schoolers.
 
I mean, if the NFL is guilty of age discrimination (which it isn't), then so is every Pop Warner football league which has certain age and weight requirements.
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« Reply #23 on: May 4th, 2004, 5:46am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
I have mixed feelings on this. If you can put a gun in the hands of an 18 yr old and ask him to fight for his country - to DIE for his country - why then, can he not play pro-Football for his country?
Yes I know they are 2 entirely different situations BUT, that also is a matter of perspective.
However, I DO like the NFL's system the way it is - it keeps the rookie draft balanced IMO.
Also, I don't like to see hardworking VETs lose their job over a rookie whose going to be sitting on a bench because he doesn't have nearly enough polish in his game to really make a difference in his drafted year.
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« Reply #24 on: May 4th, 2004, 9:15am »		 Quote Quote Modify Modify
on May 4th, 2004, 5:46am, KillerKingSting wrote:
I have mixed feelings on this. If you can put a gun in the hands of an 18 yr old and ask him to fight for his country - to DIE for his country - why then, can he not play pro-Football for his country?

 
He can play pro football for his country.  The Arena League is a very successful league that has been the stepping stone for a number of future NFL players.
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