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steelkings
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Is it me or does the officiating in professional sports seem to be getting worse. It seems that there has been a major blown call in every game of the baseball playoffs. It seems that there is a pass interference call on every drive. It also appears that a reciever can whine an official into throwing a flag. Some of these flags come way late. Ive been watching football for many years. I have the ticket and see alot of games. Ive never seen I this bad. Is the NFL all about offence now? Not seeing the Kenny Lofton catch with 6 umpires on the field is insane! The Baseball umpires are full time guys. Whats the FRICKIN problem here?
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Re: You make the call
« Reply #1 on: Oct 6th, 2003, 6:38pm » |
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As per the message-board description for "the Sidelines", this topic "as a whole" should probably not be a thread unto itself on "the Sidelines", but instead a post in "the Bleachers" sticky thread area of "the Sidelines". But, since football is "part" of the discussion, although I think not the impetus (I think Lofton's catch was), we'll let it stand and not lock the thread. For our "purposes" here on "the Gridiron", though, it would be best if the focus of the discussion is the officiating of football rather than that of other sports despite the specific primary impetus of the original post. Remember "the Sidelines" is NOT a free-for-all board. One does not exist here on "the Gridiron" and the reason behind that is part of the mission of this site. Thank you for your anticipated understanding and compliance! 
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Okay, so how about that call by our Gridiron officials? 
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Re: You make the call
« Reply #5 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 12:57am » |
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on Oct 7th, 2003, 12:48am, StegRock wrote:Well, I'm not going to address the issue in a way so as to present any potential solutions.  I'm just going to lay it on thicker. How BAD was that "running into the kicker" call on Tupa's first punt in overtime? What a crucial time to make such a mistake! My God! AWFUL!  |
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And now this horseshit  "leaping" rule! Now, I'm gonna' start bitchin' about the rule-makers! And, how could they call that ticky-tacky bullshit anyway at this point in the game.
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Re: You make the call
« Reply #6 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 1:49am » |
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on Oct 7th, 2003, 12:57am, StegRock wrote:
And now this horseshit "leaping" rule! Now, I'm gonna' start bitchin' about the rule-makers! And, how could they call that ticky-tacky bullshit anyway at this point in the game. |
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I agree totally... That was a great game, but the refs took away from it with all of those crazy/bad calls. The running into the kicker call was terrible, but I guess it would all depend on the angle you saw the play from. In one of the replays, it almost looks like Rhodes got underneath him, but from another, it was clear that Tupa fell back into him. If anything Rhodes broke his fall!
The leaping call was shocking. That was another one of those "by definition" calls. Madden said it best with his "the spirit of the rule" bit. This was clearly a bogus call and even though I found myself rooting for the Colts at the end, the poor officiating left a bad tast in my mouth and took away from what the Colts accomplished. There's no doubt that the Colts deserved to win the game, it's just too bad it had to happen like that.
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Re: You make the call
« Reply #7 on: Oct 7th, 2003, 9:33am » |
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I heard people calling in this morning to the local sports talk radio station about how the officials called the "leaping" penalty as a make up call since the Colts missed the field goal.
I didn't see the end of the game, just the highlights on the news, but the flag was thrown before the official ever knew whether the FG was good or not.
Anyway, the official has to throw a flag if he feels a rule was broken, regardless of what the game clock reads. A penalty is a penalty whether it is in the first or the last minute of the game -- you can't allow the officials to be subjective in their play-calling based on situations. Is that really what people want? Can you imagine when an official decides not to make an obvious, albeit ticky-tack call in the final minutes against YOUR team's opponent, just because they should "let the players decide the outcome"?
Yes, there are plenty of stupid rules in the NFL. But those stupid rules are not implemented by the officials. The owners get to decide what the rules are and get to whine when the officials enforce them.
Yes, the officials miss calls (like the Tupa-Rhodes incident). But the QBs miss passes, the defense misses tackles, the coaches miss calls, etc. There is a human element to the game. We could just rely on replay, but it is still a human making a determination -- and more often than not, the replay doesn't show anything conclusively. Besides, there were a lot fewer blown calls and gatherings of officials before instant replay was instituted.
OK... so let's ease up on the officials and start questioning why the Bucs let the Colts back into the game.
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Its as if the officials are throwing the flag based on what they Hope they see ,rather than what they really see. you see?
Conspiracy theory no# 1
The more flags thrown, the slower the game. The slower the game, the more station breaks. the more station breaks, the more commercials. The more commercials, more money for networks. More money for networks, the happier is the commish. Happier is the commish, happier is the head official. O.k thats bullshit.
Stupid calls happen all the time. Costly calls. Let us not forget the Dwayne Rudd removing his helmet penalty....After a game. It was possibly the difference between a home playoff game or being on the road. What is a home playoff game worth. Is it worth the cost of a officiating crews full time salary? I'll bet it is. Full time officials would have to be more accountable. Acountable to the fans,players,owners and themselves. They would have to treat thier trade as a career instead of a hobby. The NFL spends millions on getting the play called right. Replay cant review the difference between running into the kicker or the kicker falling over the defender. Spend millions on salarys.
At least the officials are equal oportunity offenders. They seem to get everyone sooner or later.
PS ..Spell check on the tool bar would be nice for us flickted guys.
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I refuse to believe that the league is telling the officials to throw more flags to slow the game down for more commercial breaks. Besides, during nearly all of the instant replay challenges or extended gatherings/conferences by the officials, the network is NOT cutting away to commercials -- they are just giving the broadcast crew time to speculate (and disagree) about the calls. [/quote]
The network is gaurenteed a certain number of breaks per hour. A while back the NFL mandated that the clock restart even on out of bounds plays except for the last 5 min. They did this to speed the game up. Then along came replay. The game is now longer on avarage. The Washington/philly game lasted 25min after the late games started. I dont remember over time. You are right. seriously,There isnt a consiracy. I dont think there is any good reason for bad officiating. It just happens. Alot.
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You see . I was making a comparison to full time officials as opposed to part time guy's. If theres a BRAVES thing going on there . I apologize.
( Check out NFL.com)They have to be making millions times over. There is NO excuse for part time officials. NONE!
