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(Message started by: steelkings on Aug 16^th, 2006, 4:37pm)

Title: A quick question about Rays team
Post by steelkings on Aug 16^th, 2006, 4:37pm

How in the hell did Ray put together that team? Are you f**#ing kidding me! I would guess that if ya'll started over and gave Ray every other pick starting with the first one, his team wouldn't be much different. :o

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 16^th, 2006, 5:45pm

Yeah, we all screwed the pooch when it came to making trades with him. Don't ask me how we did that.

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 16^th, 2006, 7:14pm

He's got such depth, that translates into trading power, which translates into getting even stronger.

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by Chumpzilla on Aug 16^th, 2006, 10:30pm

on 08/16/06 at 17:45:36, BarnabyWilde wrote:

Yeah, we all screwed the pooch when it came to making trades with him. Don't ask me how we did that.

I have to strongly disagree with you on this one. My team is significantly made up of players I either (1) drafted or (2) aquired as a FA claim.

Look at past trannies... that will back me up... Edge, drafted. Rudi Johnson, waivers, Philip Rivers/Drew Brees, drafted, L.J., drafted, dropped, and FA pick later...

You guys get the point... The only big name aquisitions I got via trade include Manning and Harrison... and I didn't steal either one... remember, I owned guys like Steve Smith, Randy Moss, Matt Hasselback, Brian Westbrook... I traded big name players and 1st and 2nd round draft picks (didn't have a pick until the third round last year) to impove my team. [smiley=yes.gif] Not killing teams in trades. [smiley=no.gif]

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by captainpurple on Aug 17^th, 2006, 8:59am

on 08/16/06 at 22:30:03, Chumpzilla wrote:

Look at past trannies...

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I do everything I can to AVOID looking at trannies. But hey....different folks...different strokes.....

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Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by Chumpzilla on Aug 17^th, 2006, 11:21am

Hey, I'm just pointing out the facts....

It wasn't bad trades that built my team... it was the draft and plucking guys off the waiver wire.

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 17^th, 2006, 12:57pm

I did not say there were bad trades Ray.

Nevermind, I retract my statement above. You da man Ray.

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by Chumpzilla on Aug 17^th, 2006, 1:20pm

on 08/17/06 at 12:57:50, BarnabyWilde wrote:

Nevermind, I retract my statement above. You da man Ray.

Now that's not what I was looking for either! >:(

Just giving you a hard time Jim! ;D Trading in this league is extremely difficult. :'(

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 17^th, 2006, 1:38pm

on 08/17/06 at 13:20:38, Chumpzilla wrote:

Trading in this league is extremely difficult. :'(

Tell ME about it!! :( >:(

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by StegRock on Aug 19^th, 2006, 5:47pm

I've been wanting to post to this thread and just got the perfect fodder to segue me into doing so (in advance, I want to say sorry to Jim for the implication of my post here; I'm just calling it the way I see it, [smiley=threed.gif] man, and I think the proof is pretty much in the pudding... [smiley=shrug.gif])...

First off, let me preface, despite Ray's (backpedaling) position on his trading practices, trading is one of the key keys ;) to victory [smiley=key.gif] in keeper leagues (a bit of a tongue twister [smiley=tonguetied.gif] there, huh?). This is especially so in a GBRFLeague as per an oldie-but-a-goodie of mine: "Keeper Leagues - the More, the Merrier (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl/KeeperLeagues.htm)" (which is jam-packed with GBRFLeague wisdom). So, I don't understand the need to be humble about that... unless, of course, as Ray points out it's just not the case here. ... I would contend that he may be being just a bit tendentious, though,... because trades, in GBRLFootball, aren't just for players, they can also be for draft picks, free-agent picks and protection spots, and I think that Ray's contentions above, upon further inspection, [smiley=uponreview.gif] would involve more trading than Ray leads you to believe,... [smiley=whistle.gif] ... ;) which I think is GREAT, mind you. Also of note, really good trades in the GBRFLeague context are typically very subtly so. Ray's latest trade is proof in the pudding of ALL that...

on 08/19/06 at 12:31:49, BarnabyWilde wrote:

Dogs of War trade his 4th and 6th round picks plus a protection spot to the Fighting Chiapets for the Giants D/ST and his 3rd, 5th and 9th rounders.

There are NO players involved in this trade, only draft picks and a protection spot. So, later on, Ray may contend that he drafted player "x", but if that draft pick was procured via a trade,... eh-hem... [smiley=whistle.gif] Make no mistakes,... this trade, in the GBRFLeague context is a subtle rip-off, albeit mild. I don't want to break out how so because I want guys, especially the newbies, [smiley=newbie.gif] [smiley=newbie.gif] to figure things out for themselves... though it would NOT be difficult to do so. You newbies were wondering how Ray accrued the roster he did. Don't expressly ask... Just observe... and learn! [smiley=yes.gif] This is how he did it!

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 19^th, 2006, 7:50pm

The Giants D/St is not considered a player? I beg to differ.

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by Chumpzilla on Aug 19^th, 2006, 9:35pm

I do agree trades are important. I apologize if my comments seemed to minimize their importance. Although, I dont know if i agree with the assessment on the trade between Jim and I. [smiley=stilldunno.gif] [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: A quick question about Rays team
Post by StegRock on Aug 20^th, 2006, 5:15am

I did initially miss the Giants part of that... [smiley=doh.gif] Doesn't much change my take on the trade, though. [smiley=shrug.gif] I'll guess we'll see how it works out for each of you... ;)