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(Message started by: BarnabyWilde on Jul 13th, 2006, 7:07pm)

Title: Protected Player Lists
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jul 13th, 2006, 7:07pm
Might as well post mine:

Protected spots:12

QB:Eli Manning, Chris Simms, Alex Smith
RB:Jamal Lewis, Thomas Jones, Cedric Benson, Ron Dayne
WR: Santana Moss, Eddie Kennison, Terry Glenn, Javon Walker
D:NY Giants



Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Jul 13th, 2006, 7:21pm
It's fine to go ahead and post your protections here (earlier than necessary and show your cards... ::) or, perhaps, do a little bluffing ;)), but none of this is official until the cut-down date arrives, and that date is something I will set (with a little of you all's input; see below) and not something done internally so as to avoid any possibilities of foul [smiley=chicken.gif] play.  This is where having an external authority oversee things is a unique benefit.  Though I probably won't hold you guys up until the day of the Draft like the mother league does (unless you guys really want to this year), I probably will wait until just a couple days before you all's (current) draft date of August 24th waiting out Jeremy Miller, who has earned such special treatment (that's NOT up for debate).  Anyway,... I just wanted to put this thread into perspective... [smiley=threed.gif]

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 13th, 2006, 3:50pm
I think the protected player lists should be turned in by this Friday...anyone disagree?

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by steelkings on Aug 13th, 2006, 5:26pm
Instead of by friday, how about  on friday or even Saturday. The team is still Jeremys until midnite of the 17th(Thurs). That gives me a chance to makes some moves that I have in the works.

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 13th, 2006, 7:28pm
ok, sounds fine by me. :)

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Philly on Aug 13th, 2006, 9:19pm
So let's say by end of day Sunday (to give everyone - especially Todd, if Jeremy doesn't show - a chance to wheel and deal over the weekend)?  Maybe make it by midnight Pacific time to accomodate our owners on the west coast...

(I'm on the road and don't know how much internet access I'll have... and I won't be home until sometime late Saturday night at the earliest.)

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:14pm
Guys, IMPORTANT, when are your protected lists to be submitted???  I ask because, contrary to what I told you, MC, a little earlier, the lottery draft pick order will NOT be determined/displayed until the cut-down deadline has passed/all protections are in...  So, when is that???  And, are you guys just going to post them here???  Or, is someone collecting them and going to send them to me by e-mail???  I must admit I'm a bit clueless ?.?.? here...  PLEASE, CLUE ME IN!!!

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Walker Boh on Aug 20th, 2006, 8:50pm
Here are my keepers:

QB - Michael Vick, Chad Pennington
RB - Tiki Barber, Willis McGahee, Frank Gore, Deshaun Foster, Chris Brown
WR - Larry Fitzgerald, Rod Smith, T. J. Houschmandzadeh, Mike Williams
D/ST - Chicago

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Philly on Aug 20th, 2006, 9:56pm
And here are the keepers for the Amish Jihad:

QB: Matt Hasselbeck, Jake Delhomme, Brett Favre
RB: Shaun Alexander, Deuce McAllister, Warrick Dunn, Kevan Barlow
RC: Steve Smith, Lee Evans, Joey Galloway
D/ST: Carolina Panthers, Seattle Seahawks

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Chumpzilla on Aug 20th, 2006, 10:28pm
Fighting Chiapets:

14 Protection Spots (Dogs of War and Smack Down Clowns)

QB:  Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Jake Plummer, Steve McNair, Matt Schaub

RB:  Larry Johnson, Edgerrin James, Brian Westbrook, Dominic Rhodes

WR:  Terell Owens, Marvin Harrison, Anquan Boldin

PK:  David Akers

TD:  Philadelphia Eagles

HC:  Andy Reid

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 10:34pm
Can someone just clue me in as to when these things are "officially" due so I know when to update the "Rosters" page (without any double-work)??? :-/

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Chumpzilla on Aug 20th, 2006, 10:48pm
My understanding is the rosters are due by midnight, tonight, Pacific Time.  Can anyone else confirm?

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 10:59pm

on 08/20/06 at 22:48:28, Chumpzilla wrote:
My understanding is the rosters are due by midnight, tonight, Pacific Time.  Can anyone else confirm?


I mean, guys,... I kind of need to know this (and so do yous).  Once the deadline's passed, cuts are no longer accepted and I do it based on offseason trades and the dude's Week 17 starting lineup. [smiley=yikes.gif] (Talk about a meaningless week last year coming back to haunt you!!!)  Is what Ray says here the case???  If so, I will probably update the "Rosters" page tonight and "deal with" cutting down the roster of anyone who happens to not get his in...  BUT, PLEASE, don't make double-work on me by not nailing this down!  What IS the deal???

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Philly on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:06pm
Well... you can see from this thread that nothing official actually has been set. Jim proposed by last Friday, Todd wanted another day or two, so I proposed midnight (PT) Sunday (tonight)... no one has objected, but no one has really confirmed it either.

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:12pm
Well, it has to be official and everybody has to know and be on the same page!!! :-/

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:18pm
I sent everyone an email to get them in ASAP!

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:19pm
...So, what are we doing here???  Did someone get an e-mail out to ALL the league members???  And, in any event, does someone want to get over to the "Owner Information" page and get on that NOW???  You guys want another thread started and a vote called???  Right now, we got like 3 or 4 protection lists in with 45 minutes to go!!!  What if that's it???  I guess you all are not going to consider THAT your "official" cuts,... and I'm sure not going to do any updating over at the league site based on that,... or, at this point, even if all but one team has submitted cuts.  It doesn't seem like this was clear to everybody.  Can someone give me some "definitive" help here??? :-/

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:22pm
Hey Clueless, read the post above yours!!!!  ;)

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Philly on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:22pm
I think we're all able to make the "proposed" deadline except for Keith, who we haven't heard from lately.  Everyone else has been online and wheeling and dealing in the chatroom most of the night.

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:23pm

on 08/20/06 at 23:18:20, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I sent everyone an email to get them in ASAP!


ASAP isn't even close to being good enough...  It's got to be a specific date and time... both for you guys AND ME!  I HIGHLY suggest yous start a "Vote on the Cut-down time and date" thread and get an e-mail out to EVERY e-mail address listed on the "Owner Information" page for everyone in the league... like now... [smiley=onit.gif] and, ultimately, suggest that the cut-down date either be at 11:59:59 TOMORROW or Tuesday night!!!

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Tony_O on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:24pm
I was on vacation for the last week, just got the email, trying to put ut up today, but it was 12:00 PST. So, we have 3 hours 45 minutes. However, I would agree with Steve that if it wasn't "offical" it's hard to hold someone accountable.

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:26pm
How about by 6pm PST tomorrow?

Then Steg can pull the draft list soon after that?

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:27pm
Smack Down Clowns

10 Keepers

QB - Marc Bulger, Trent Green, Mark Brunell

RB - Kevin Jones, Rudi Johnson, Ryan Moats, Marion Barber III

WR - Andre Johnson, Jeremy Shockey

DEF - ATL

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by PrimeTime on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:29pm
I'm logging off now.  Once decided, I will post my keepers.  I will log in first thing in the morning when I get to work.

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:30pm

on 08/20/06 at 23:26:50, BarnabyWilde wrote:
How about by 6pm PST tomorrow?

Then Steg can pull the draft list soon after that?


Yea,... but just don't let this little post be it...  Someone, go do the leg-work here as I explain above!!!  Get an e-mail out, another thread started (perhaps) and REALLY lay it out!!!  This post here could be EASILY missed and considered just as "unofficial" as anything determined heretofore!!!  You need more effort than that, guys!!!

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by captainpurple on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:32pm
Keepers for The Fury of The Norsemen:

QB - Daunte Culpepper, Brad Johnson, Kurt Warner
RB - Clinton Portis, Lamont Jordan, Chester Taylor, Carnell Williams, Ciatrick Fason
WR - Antonio Gates, Reggie Brown, Chad Johnson
D/ST - Jacksonville Jaguars

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Philly on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:36pm
Like I said... everyone in the league (with the exception of Keith) was online in the past hour or two and is prepared to post their keepers. If we can get confirmation from Keith tomorrow (we have his work address) then we'll be set.

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:47pm
That's still too loose for my tastes,... but what do I know, right???  I'm giving my suggestions on how I'd like yous to wrap this up.  It'll take just a little effort!!!  Why can't someone just do it... if for no other reason than out of consideration for me given that I am the one updating the league site and being stuck in limbo here by the uncertainty heretofore created???

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Philly on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:51pm
It's already been done.  Jim sent out a couple emails already. One with the earlier deadline and another just a few minutes ago with the new deadline.  If Keith doesn't log in by tomorrow afternoon, I'll give him a call.

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 20th, 2006, 11:54pm

on 08/20/06 at 23:51:04, Philly wrote:
If Keith doesn't log in by tomorrow afternoon, I'll give him a call.


[smiley=bow.gif]

...

We're good, fellas!!!  In the midst of this, I sent Keith an e-mail.  He just sent me his protections:

R Grossman
A Rodgers
D Bledsoe
P Holmes
D Davis
F Taylor
T Bell
M Bennett
D Jackson
P Burress
B Edwards
Dolphins

He will be logging in in the morning on the morrow, though.  So, if he wants to make changes, that's up to him.  BUT, at least we got a list for him in!!! :)

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 21st, 2006, 5:16am

on 08/20/06 at 23:32:29, captainpurple wrote:
Keepers for The Fury of The Norsemen:

QB - Culpepper, Johnson, Warner
RB - Portis, Jordan, Taylor, Williams, Fason
WR - Gates, Brown, Johson
D/ST - Jags



I sure am glad there is only one Johnson, Taylor, Williams and Brown in the NFL.  ::)

Come on, is it too much to ask to include first names so we don't have to go to the GBRFL2 page and see who is on all the rosters?

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by The Juror on Aug 21st, 2006, 9:45am
My list is correct.  Thanks.  Keith

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by steelkings on Aug 21st, 2006, 9:57am
Triman Telegoals Keeper list

QB's = Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer

RB's = Ronnie Brown, Duce Staley, Willy Parker,

WR = Hines Ward, Lav Coles, Chambers, D. Branch, D. Driver

DU = Pittsburgh

Enjoy

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by PrimeTime on Aug 21st, 2006, 5:53pm
The Fat Chick Thrillers keeper list:

QB: D. McNabb, D. Carr, A. Brooks, C. Frye, J P Losman

RB: L. Tomlinson, R. Droughns, A. Green, C. Dillion, C. Houston

WR: R. Moss, D. Mason, M. Jones


Good luck everyone, see you at the draft!

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Tony_O on Aug 21st, 2006, 6:16pm
NEW TEAM NAME: THE FANTASY PHENOMS

Protects:

QB: Tom Brady, Byron Leftwich

RB: Steven Jackson, Julius Jones, Greg Jones, Brandon Jacobs

WR: Torry Holt, Reggie Wayne, Roy Williams, Troy Williamson

DEF/ST: Dallas Cowboys

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by steelkings on Aug 21st, 2006, 6:27pm
I think everyone is in.  ;DIf you edit before the deadline, can you inform the group? ;)

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by StegRock on Aug 22nd, 2006, 5:52am
SOME odd cuts and keeps, I MUST admit... :o ... ?.?.?

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Philly on Aug 22nd, 2006, 9:00am

on 08/22/06 at 05:52:37, StegRock wrote:
SOME odd cuts and keeps, I MUST admit... :o ... ?.?.?


:nodnod: I agree with you there... Although it does make the draft a bit more appealing.  I ended up cutting a few guys that I really wanted to keep, so hopefully I'll get them back again... but I don't think any of my keepers (with the exception of the second defense) could be termed odd. I just felt I had two very solid defenses and, with defenses being so important in the scoring, it was best to hang onto them.

Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by captainpurple on Aug 22nd, 2006, 9:32am
i also dropped some players I'd like to hang on to.   Thing is, you have to look at the core you have, and what your team might look like if you get none of your players back.   It would be easy to keep 3-4 young players with potential and let some high 3rd tier vets go, but if you get none of the 3rd tier replaced, you're in trouble.  


Title: Re: Protected Player Lists
Post by Tony_O on Aug 22nd, 2006, 11:33am
However, in a keeper league like this one, I prefer to keep the young guns with potential and part with 3rd tier guys. An older 3rd tier guy will most likely always stay in that tier, where as the younger guns have the potential to climb the tier ladder.



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