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(Message started by: ugley on Nov 21st, 2002, 1:37pm)
Title: qb controversy in Den.
Post by ugley on Nov 21st, 2002, 1:37pm
1.  Steve starts this week.  2. Shany said Greaser starts when ready.  3. Shanny lies(like a rug). [smiley=dejected.gif] [smiley=fireman.gif] [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=scared.gif] [smiley=thinking.gif]
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by FourTwoOh on Nov 21st, 2002, 2:39pm

on 11/21/02 at 13:37:20, ugley wrote:
1.  Steve starts this week.  2. Shany said Greaser starts when ready.  3. Shanny lies(like a rug). [smiley=dejected.gif] [smiley=fireman.gif] [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=scared.gif] [smiley=thinking.gif]


3. Shanny lies(like a rug)
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by Walker_Boh on Nov 21st, 2002, 5:25pm
[smiley=Uwent2far.gif]I know Shanahan isn't a fantasy player's best friend, but cut the guy some slack. What do you expect him to say?

[smiley=soapbox.gif]"Uh, I know that Beuerlein has only thrown 2 passes all year, but he'll be the starter for the rest of the season. Sorry Brian, I just have a feeling that Steve is going to do well so I've decided to bench you before I even see him play." [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif]

Seriously, let's see how Beuerlein plays before we start ripping Shanahan. One thing is for sure, Shanahan will do what he thinks is best for the team. That's his job. Our job as fantasy players is to react accordingly. As a Denver fan, I feel lucky to have him. Go Broncos! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by ugley on Nov 21st, 2002, 5:41pm

on 11/21/02 at 17:25:13, Walker_Boh wrote:
[smiley=Uwent2far.gif]I know Shanahan isn't a fantasy player's best friend, but cut the guy some slack. What do you expect him to say?

[smiley=soapbox.gif]"Uh, I know that Beuerlein has only thrown 2 passes all year, but he'll be the starter for the rest of the season. Sorry Brian, I just have a feeling that Steve is going to do well so I've decided to bench you before I even see him play." [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif]

Seriously, let's see how Beuerlein plays before we start ripping Shanahan. One thing is for sure, Shanahan will do what he thinks is best for the team. That's his job. Our job as fantasy players is to react accordingly. As a Denver fan, I feel lucky to have him. Go Broncos! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Yo Boh, I did not intend my comments to be a rip on Shanny, just a simple statement of fact.   [smiley=fireman.gif] [smiley=fireman.gif] [smiley=fireman.gif]
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by ugley on Nov 21st, 2002, 5:49pm

on 11/21/02 at 17:25:13, Walker_Boh wrote:
[smiley=Uwent2far.gif]I know Shanahan isn't a fantasy player's best friend, but cut the guy some slack. What do you expect him to say?

[smiley=soapbox.gif]"Uh, I know that Beuerlein has only thrown 2 passes all year, but he'll be the starter for the rest of the season. Sorry Brian, I just have a feeling that Steve is going to do well so I've decided to bench you before I even see him play." [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif]

Seriously, let's see how Beuerlein plays before we start ripping Shanahan. One thing is for sure, Shanahan will do what he thinks is best for the team. That's his job. Our job as fantasy players is to react accordingly. As a Denver fan, I feel lucky to have him. Go Broncos! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

And by the way. Between 3 ffteams I have: Griese,Beurelien,Portis,Smith,ED and the def.  The last 2 league wins I had were thanks to Elway,Smith,Sharpe and the def. so you might have guessed I am a Bronco fan. [smiley=policeman.gif]
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by Walker_Boh on Nov 21st, 2002, 5:59pm
Sorry, I guess I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying to say. Please elaborate.
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by FourTwoOh on Nov 21st, 2002, 6:05pm

on 11/21/02 at 17:49:28, ugley wrote:
so you might have guessed I am a Bronco fan. [smiley=policeman.gif]


Is that a good cop or bad cop?  ;D

Walker_Boh, always know I'm just messin' with ya! Hard core Chiefs fan who didn't know for quite some time he'd signed up on a Broncos board ;)
Shanahan is definetly saying the right things, ie coach speak. I just feel that there will be no hesitation on his part to stick with Beurlein if he does well. What little thing/signs have you seen, if you do, to believe Shanahan has any real faith in Griese. Does Griese outright suck? No. Is he anything special? Hell no. Shanny wants to win, and has to realize that the table is set very well for a run  for the division title. Unfortunately for me, he's too good of a coach to get caught up in not wanting to hurt Griese's feelings. He'll go for the wins, and there is every chance in the world that that will mean sticking with Beurlein.  
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by ugley on Nov 21st, 2002, 6:25pm

on 11/21/02 at 18:05:16, FourTwoOh wrote:
Is that a good cop or bad cop?  ;D

Walker_Boh, always know I'm just messin' with ya! Hard core Chiefs fan who didn't know for quite some time he'd signed up on a Broncos board ;)
Shanahan is definetly saying the right things, ie coach speak. I just feel that there will be no hesitation on his part to stick with Beurlein if he does well. What little thing/signs have you seen, if you do, to believe Shanahan has any real faith in Griese. Does Griese outright suck? No. Is he anything special? Hell no. Shanny wants to win, and has to realize that the table is set very well for a run  for the division title. Unfortunately for me, he's too good of a coach to get caught up in not wanting to hurt Griese's feelings. He'll go for the wins, and there is every chance in the world that that will mean sticking with Beurlein.  

9 out of 10 coeds agreed I was a very good cop. [smiley=gladiator.gif]
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by Walker_Boh on Nov 21st, 2002, 6:30pm

on 11/21/02 at 18:05:16, FourTwoOh wrote:
Shanahan is definetly saying the right things, ie coach speak. I just feel that there will be no hesitation on his part to stick with Beurlein if he does well. What little thing/signs have you seen, if you do, to believe Shanahan has any real faith in Griese. Does Griese outright suck? No. Is he anything special? Hell no. Shanny wants to win, and has to realize that the table is set very well for a run  for the division title. Unfortunately for me, he's too good of a coach to get caught up in not wanting to hurt Griese's feelings. He'll go for the wins, and there is every chance in the world that that will mean sticking with Beurlein.  

I agree with everything you said. I was just going to bat for my coach. If Beuerlein gets the offense running like the fine tuned machine it should be, I have no doubt that Shanahan would stay with him. That doesn't make him a liar though; it makes him a good coach. Like you said, Shanahan is just saying what should be said for the good of the team. It would be foolish to do otherwise. Being just a "Water Boy" I still have much to learn about the posters and exactly where they're coming from. [smiley=newbie.gif]
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by FourTwoOh on Nov 21st, 2002, 6:42pm

on 11/21/02 at 18:30:30, Walker_Boh wrote:
I agree with everything you said. I was just going to bat for my coach. If Beuerlein gets the offense running like the fine tuned machine it should be, I have no doubt that Shanahan would stay with him. That doesn't make him a liar though; it makes him a good coach. Like you said, Shanahan is just saying what should be said for the good of the team. It would be foolish to do otherwise. Being just a "Water Boy" I still have much to learn about the posters and exactly where they're coming from. [smiley=newbie.gif]


Look on the bright side. [smiley=sunny.gif] Almost by definition, we've got the whole Raider Hater angle to work from. From there it'll just be a matter of time before you assimilated to the Arrowhead way. :the i thought we had an alien smilie but danged if i can spot it smilie:
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by FourTwoOh on Nov 21st, 2002, 6:46pm

on 11/21/02 at 18:25:39, ugley wrote:
9 out of 10 coeds agreed I was a very good cop. [smiley=gladiator.gif]


flashing back to last night's victoria secret show, plenty of great cops to have been had.  [smiley=shiteatingrin.gif]
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by StegRock on Nov 23rd, 2002, 2:40am
I posted this "somewhere else".  I am finally "bringin' it back home" where it belongs, at the prompting of one of our fellow "Gridironers."  Said "Gridironer" started this here thread, as well, probably in an effort to get me to get a move on [smiley=tired.gif] [smiley=sleepers.gif] .  Anyway, thanks for the [smiley=doseofreality.gif] , [smiley=smileytrash.gif] !

Now, on to the issue at hand, I am both a Griese, Beuerlein and R. Smith owner AND a die-hard Broncos fan. With that said, I think this is great for the team at this point in time. I saw someone mention that though Denver's record is 7 - 3, it feels more like 3 - 7, in my opinion 5 - 5. Listen, I like Griese a lot. I think he has very big shoes to fill both by way of following Elway in Denver and being the son of Bob Griese. I think he has been under a microscope and the media has been unfair. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, I think that this opportunity to sit back, watch from the sidelines, take a breather and get composed could not have come at a better time, both for him and the team. I think Beuerlein will lead them nicely for three or so weeks and hand the reigns back to a more refreshed, relieved and (mentally) composed Brian Griese. I also think that Beuerlein's "FANTASY-FRIENDLY" numbers over those weeks will light a fire under Griese's a$$ (dollar-signs intended) and get him performing more like he did two years ago.

By the way, did I mention that I think this is great for my fantasy team, the Plummer Snakes, as well? ;)
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by Referee on Nov 25th, 2002, 2:24am
In an effort to keep "the Gridiron" neat and clean, let's keep all discussion on this topic on this thread!  Thank you! [smiley=bow.gif]

Here is a link to the "other," now-locked thread on this topic, which contains one comment/reply worth reading:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;action=display;num=1038208343
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by Brian Griese,s Dog on Nov 25th, 2002, 2:27am

on 11/23/02 at 02:40:21, StegRock wrote:
I posted this "somewhere else".  I am finally "bringin' it back home" where it belongs, at the prompting of one of our fellow "Gridironers."  Said "Gridironer" started this here thread, as well, probably in an effort to get me to get a move on [smiley=tired.gif] [smiley=sleepers.gif] .  Anyway, thanks for the [smiley=doseofreality.gif] , [smiley=smileytrash.gif] !

Now, on to the issue at hand, I am both a Griese, Beuerlein and R. Smith owner AND a die-hard Broncos fan. With that said, I think this is great for the team at this point in time. I saw someone mention that though Denver's record is 7 - 3, it feels more like 3 - 7, in my opinion 5 - 5. Listen, I like Griese a lot. I think he has very big shoes to fill both by way of following Elway in Denver and being the son of Bob Griese. I think he has been under a microscope and the media has been unfair. THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, I think that this opportunity to sit back, watch from the sidelines, take a breather and get composed could not have come at a better time, both for him and the team. I think Beuerlein will lead them nicely for three or so weeks and hand the reigns back to a more refreshed, relieved and (mentally) composed Brian Griese. I also think that Beuerlein's "FANTASY-FRIENDLY" numbers over those weeks will light a fire under Griese's a$$ (dollar-signs intended) and get him performing more like he did two years ago.

By the way, did I mention that I think this is great for my fantasy team, the Plummer Snakes, as well? ;)

wink,wink,nudge,nudge-No one expects the The Spanish Inquition. [smiley=dog.gif]
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by Brian Griese,s Dog on Nov 25th, 2002, 2:39am

on 11/25/02 at 02:24:56, Referee wrote:
In an effort to keep "the Gridiron" neat and clean, let's keep all discussion on this topic on this thread!  Thank you! [smiley=bow.gif]

Here is a link to the "other," now-locked thread on this topic, which contains one comment/reply worth reading:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;action=display;num=1038208343

attica,attica [smiley=policeman.gif] [smiley=policeman.gif] [smiley=policeman.gif]
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by FourTwoOh on Nov 25th, 2002, 3:01am

on 11/25/02 at 02:39:40, Brian Griese,s Dog wrote:
attica,attica [smiley=policeman.gif] [smiley=policeman.gif] [smiley=policeman.gif]


lmao!

Beurlein certainly did not have alot of elements in his favor, but clearly did nothing with opportunity #1 to make a case for himself. Tough day in the AFC West, feelin' some similar pain I'm sure.
Title: Re: qb controversy in Den.
Post by Walker_Boh on Nov 25th, 2002, 12:43pm

on 11/21/02 at 17:25:13, Walker_Boh wrote:
[smiley=Uwent2far.gif]I know Shanahan isn't a fantasy player's best friend, but cut the guy some slack. What do you expect him to say?

[smiley=soapbox.gif]"Uh, I know that Beuerlein has only thrown 2 passes all year, but he'll be the starter for the rest of the season. Sorry Brian, I just have a feeling that Steve is going to do well so I've decided to bench you before I even see him play."[smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif]

Seriously, let's see how Beuerlein plays before we start ripping Shanahan. One thing is for sure, Shanahan will do what he thinks is best for the team. That's his job. Our job as fantasy players is to react accordingly. As a Denver fan, I feel lucky to have him. Go Broncos! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


OK, so maybe I'm not so lucky... It's going to take me a long time to get over that 3rd down pass incompletion with time running out in regulation. [smiley=shootmyself.gif] What the hell was he thingking?  ??? ??? ???


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