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(Message started by: Razzak on Dec 11th, 2002, 11:52pm)
Title: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by Razzak on Dec 11th, 2002, 11:52pm
Well, it's the first half (week 1 of two) of our superbowl, and I'm gonna post my lineup (8 teams) and see what you think.  The only real headbeater is at RB, where Faulk/Gordon aren't making it easy to pick one.

QB
PLUMMER, B. JOHNSON, BULGER
Warner, Martin, Brees

RB
FAULK, WILLIAMS, HOLMES, L. JOHNSON, M. SHIPP
Gordon, T. Minor, M. Cloud, K. Barlow

WR
OWENS, STREETS, HORN, BURRESS, DRIVER
Conway

TE
BRADY, POLLARD

K
Morten ANDERSON

D
JACKSONVILLE (vs. Cin&Ten), CAROLINA
--Dropped Denver cuz they hit KC/OAK

Brees sits as long as Conway is out, even if that means playing Plummer.  Conway missing time is hurtin and no Faulk is harsh as well.  I shouldn't have traded Kitna damnit :(
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by Razzak on Dec 11th, 2002, 11:56pm
Just to settle a few "Warner & Faulk wah wah wah" complaints...  Warner was acquired for Keyshawn after he went down and I had Bulger.  Shipp and L Johnson I picked up in week 3 or 4 and have had them stashed.  I got lucky with Williams/Holmes at #16/#17 as guys like Manning/McNabb/Favre/George went ahead of them due to 6 pt TD's.  I traded Jimmy Smith and a couple starting QB's (as you can see, QB's are scarce) to get Owens while Owens was still slumping.  I'm definitely not a dominant team although I do have most points, as I get about 30 points a week from my QB's where other teams get 60-70.
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by bgsgfan on Dec 12th, 2002, 1:05am
How many starters per position?
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by Razzak on Dec 12th, 2002, 1:42am

on 12/12/02 at 01:05:17, bgsgfan wrote:
How many starters per position?



The ones in bold are the starters, the ones in lower case on the next line is my bench.
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by Philly on Dec 12th, 2002, 9:25am
I think you've made the right decisions.   [smiley=smileythumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by Walker_Boh on Dec 12th, 2002, 11:52am

on 12/12/02 at 09:25:46, Philly wrote:
I think you've made the right decisions.   [smiley=smileythumbsup.gif]

[smiley=yes.gif]
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by FourTwoOh on Dec 12th, 2002, 1:28pm
I'm going to have to go against the grain a little bit here, and go with Brees over Plummer, Conway or not. Brees' match with Buffalo is too much easier than Jake's against St L.

Plus you are going to have two qb/rb combos going. qb/rb combos are not to be avaoided at all costs, but rarely do the running game and passing game both go off big the same week.  And you'll doubling down on that? Just something to think about.
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by ugley on Dec 12th, 2002, 1:54pm

on 12/12/02 at 13:28:27, FourTwoOh wrote:
I'm going to have to go against the grain a little bit here, and go with Brees over Plummer, Conway or not. Brees' match with Buffalo is too much easier than Jake's against St L.

Plus you are going to have two qb/rb combos going. qb/rb combos are not to be avaoided at all costs, but rarely do the running game and passing game both go off big the same week.  And you'll doubling down on that? Just something to think about.

[smiley=coach.gif] what he said.
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by Razzak on Dec 13th, 2002, 4:14pm
Thanks.  I looked harder at Brees vs. Plummer and have decided to stick with Plummer for the following reasons:

1) Plummer is not spectacular, but only twice all year has he put up single digit scores.  He's consistently below average.

2) Brees has been especially terrible of late, putting up only *one* double digit week since week 7!  I really can't justify starting him on merits, so that leaves matchups and receivers.

3) While I'm gonna start Conway over Streets, Conway gimping definitely hurts Brees.

4) Buffalo's pass defense has actually been pretty decent lately.  Further, Brees on the road scares me.

5) The Rams suck.  No Aeneas Williams makes that secondary weak and no Faulk/O-Line means they won't be able to run the ball, so hopefully it'll be a high scoring/many possession game.

Now, with Faulk sitting out practice on Thursday, I'm tempted to throw in Barlow or Gordon over him.  Damn Faulk, he's never left me in the lurch fantasy playoff time before.
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by FourTwoOh on Dec 13th, 2002, 5:40pm
You make a good a case for Plummer. You have got to get one of those St Louis backs in the line-up. Gordon will play most of it I believe. It's more a question of how may carries will Faulk steal from him. No team gives up the home run stud scores to running backs like Arizona. Week in, week out. Except for last week, just to plant that doubt :evilgrin:

Good luck this weekend with your 49ers. Three huge games that I'm keyed up for

Chiefs Broncos
Dolphins Raiders
49ers Packers

Couch potato, football lovin', heaven!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by ColaSteeler on Dec 14th, 2002, 11:02pm
If you haven't already I would replace Faulk with Gordon.  I don't think Faulk will start or get many carries, if any.
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by Razzak on Dec 15th, 2002, 10:51pm

on 12/14/02 at 23:02:52, ColaSteeler wrote:
If you haven't already I would replace Faulk with Gordon.  I don't think Faulk will start or get many carries, if any.


Thanks, I did that last night.  Glad I stuck with Plummer too.

Thanks everyone for your help!
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by Razzak on Dec 20th, 2002, 8:29pm
Ok, last week I won by 54 points, but since it's a 2 week superbowl if my opponent beats me by 54 points this week he'll win it all.  Normally I would laugh at that thought..  But with Priest/Faulk/Johnson/Owens all hurt I'm scrambling to field a team.  Here's my lineup, starters in Caps bench below them.
 
QB
PLUMMER, BREES, BULGER
Brad Johnson (Can't risk a 0)
 
RB
WILLIAMS, CLOUD, M. SHIPP, BARLOW (I figure he'll get a lotta touches in a meaningless game vs. Az), CANIDATE
Faulk, Gordon, Priest, A. Peterson, L. Betts, L. Johnson
 
WR
CONWAY, D. THOMPSON, HORN, BURRESS, DRIVER
Owens, (just dropped Streets)
 
TE
BRADY, POLLARD
 
K
Janikowski
 
D
JACKSONVILLE, CAROLINA

Immediate help appreciated :)
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by FourTwoOh on Dec 20th, 2002, 10:34pm
Losing all those certainly hurts, but you're in very good shape overall. I like that reciever corp to carry you well.
I might favor Leon over Trung, as that damn StL running back siuatiion is so up in the air. Other than that, sit back and enjoy your championship!

[smiley=bonghit.gif]
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by StegRock on Dec 21st, 2002, 11:53am
I would play Faulk or Peterson over Canidate.  I think Canidate is going to lay an egg.  No matter what, he will still split carries with TWO OTHER guys, both Faulk and Gordon.  Faulk will still want to get to 1,000 yards this season.  I think he gets at least half his against a WEAK Seattle rush defense, which should equal at least 75 total yards and a touchdown.  Peterson is an intriguing play.  I like him and think his carries will increase this week.  I think they want to see what the kid can do down the stretch here to see to what extent he can/will be a part of their future, especially given A-Train's "Rashaan Salaam-like" disappointing sophomore performance this season.
Title: Re: Lineup Thoughts?
Post by Razzak on Dec 22nd, 2002, 4:34pm
Ugh.  Good call on Faulk.  I started Trung because I remmebered him putting up that 200 yard game last year for me in place of Faulk.  And It was SEATTLE, how could he suck?

Anyways, unless Trung puts up some more points it looks like I'll lose this superbowl.  Dunn and Dee Brown beating guys like Ricky Williams is just oh so wrong.  That and him having Philly and Atlanta didn't help :D


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