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(Message started by: Mossaholic on Dec 12^th, 2002, 1:06pm)

Title: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by Mossaholic on Dec 12^th, 2002, 1:06pm

Need major help. must start two RB, please pick them

Faulk vs Ariz
Gordon vs Ariz
Leon Johnson vs Jets
Dee Brown @ Pit
Barlow vs GB

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by FourTwoOh on Dec 12^th, 2002, 3:25pm

I'd treat Barlow as out.

Dee Brown is their guy{although nick goings could see more this week}some gets some added value but damn, he should have been a much stronger play last week and kinda blah. Didn't see it, so just going by stats. Against Pittsburg, I don't know. Carolina has been giving up major passing game points recently, and without Peppers and Maddox getting a game back under him, I see a huge point total for Pittsburgh, say 37-38, and Carolina will have to give up on the run and air it out. Brown appears to be a very small part of the passing game.

Leon is most of the carries for his team as wellwould as well, but as poorly as the Bears palyed Monday, no way can you feel good about that offense in any aspect. The Jets though, while not a terrible run def, give up middle of the road numbers week in week out as long as your getting yardage points, td only they are a very good run def and should probably be avoided.

I'll throw this crazy idea out. Possibly Faulk and Gordon. Yup. Not a safe and sound long term srategy, but consider this matchup potential.

I did this last night and I'll post it here as it shows that any running back you can throw at Ariz will score nicely{Chicago is prime meat, also}.

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Worst 15 defenses against the running back posistion weeks 10 - 14. 1 pt every 10 yards rush/rec, 6 pt td's

team score allowed
Arizona 151
Seattle 145
Chicago 134
St Louis 115
San Diego 115
Baltimore 105
Denver 96
Minnesota 94
Buffalo 94
Washington 93
Carolina 90
Detroit 89
Cincinnati 88
New York(N) 88
San Francisco 88

Defenses that have given up a 25 point performance to a single back weeks 10 - 14

Twice

ari
sea
snd
stl

Once

bal
buf
chi
cin
den

In the "damn good" category of 14 to 24, the same 15 defenses

4 times

chi

3 times

was
min
ari

twice

sfr
sea
car
buf
balt

once

stl
nyg
det
den
cin

In the 6 to 13 range these same 15 have allowed it

6 times {out of 5 games :eek:}

sfr
det

5 times

snd

4 times

was
nyg
min
car
ari

3 times

sea
den
cin
chi
bal

twice

stl
buf

If you look at the totals

chi 5
ari 5
sea 4
was 3
min 3
buf 3
bal 3
stl 3
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Ok, still awake? ;D in cold hard numers here's the runningback scores against arizona

week 14 vs Lions Stewart 8, Schlesinger 2 {only chip in the armor}
week 13 vs Chiefs Priest 28, T Rich 6
week 12 vs Raiders Garner 24, Wheatley 14
week 11 vs Eagles Staley 27, Levens 11
week 10 vs Seahawks Alexander 16, Morris 7

Faulk and Gordon baby. Play of the YEAR! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by Mossaholic on Dec 13^th, 2002, 10:27am

WOW great post [smiley=bow.gif]. you may have convinced me of Fualk, Gordon. Zeroue is on th FA list to so you can add him to the list. Are my options so bad no one else wants to help?

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by Walker_Boh on Dec 13^th, 2002, 1:15pm

I would be hesitant to start both Gordon and Faulk this week.[smiley=nervous.gif] Martz admitted that Marshall was not ready last week and would be more careful with him for the remainder of the season. Couple that with playing Arizona at home and I would not be surprised to see Gordon get the bulk, if not all the carries. The Rams have been eliminated from the playoffs and gain nothing by having Faulk run around on a bad ankle.[smiley=shootmyself.gif] I'd start Gordon. My second back would be Johnson. I've watched a number of Bears games this season hoping the A-Train would put up big numbers and I can't tell you how many times I said, "Yes, finally a decent run for Thomas!" The problem was it was Johnson![smiley=doh.gif] Playing at home against the Jets will be much easier then at Miami and his numbers should improve.[smiley=yes.gif] Good luck. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by FourTwoOh on Dec 13^th, 2002, 3:05pm

That Faulk/Gordon play is risky to start with, and possibly getting riskier. If Faulk does not even practice today, he did not on Thursday, then Walker's suggestion of Gordon & Leon is best.

But man-o-man, IF Faulk see's any significant time...

[smiley=greedy.gif] [smiley=greedy.gif] ;D

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by Philly on Dec 13^th, 2002, 3:15pm

Play it safe and stick with Gordon and Johnson. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by Jetdoc on Dec 13^th, 2002, 4:12pm

Johnson against my J-E-T-S is a decent play.

I'd also lean towards Faulk...even though Martz's comments are concerning, he has much more potential to get in the zone than Gordon does...

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by ColaSteeler on Dec 14^th, 2002, 10:53pm

I'll also agree with the last few posters and say Gordon and L. Johnson. Faulk is pretty much out of the game this week (if not the rest of ST Louis' season), and Brown will have a tough time againt my Steelers. Barlow is untriguing, but just back from an injury is a little of a risk, but then again with Hearst hurting too, who knows. I'd play it safe and go with Gordon and Johnson.

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by StegRock on Dec 15^th, 2002, 10:48am

Go with Gordon. I think Faulk is toast for the rest of this season. As for your #2, if you can still go out and get Zereoue, I would. I think the Bus will continue to be slowed and Zereoue will get touches both on the ground and through the air. Summary: Gordon & Zereoue!

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by Mossaholic on Dec 15^th, 2002, 12:01pm

Thaks again for all the help everyone. going with Gordon and Johnson

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by Walker_Boh on Dec 15^th, 2002, 6:20pm

So far, so good... Johnson came through with a good game and scored his first TD of the season. How 'bout those Bears!

Let's hope Gordon comes through. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by Mossaholic on Dec 15^th, 2002, 10:22pm

yeh good call, its half time and I'm leading by 1 pt. So unless Gordon loses yardage I'm in the championship

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by FourTwoOh on Dec 15^th, 2002, 11:55pm

Glad you got the victory. Man, those numbers looked so inviting.
All show, no go...sorry.

Title: Re: PLAYOFF RB HELP PLEASE
Post by Mossaholic on Dec 16^th, 2002, 12:30am

on 12/15/02 at 23:55:17, FourTwoOh wrote:

Glad you got the victory. Man, those numbers looked so inviting.
All show, no go...sorry.

Thank you. I don't know what your sorry about. The info you posted was great and appreciate your and everyone elses information. [smiley=smileythumbsup.gif]