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(Message started by: Philly on Dec 26th, 2002, 2:53pm)

Title: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by Philly on Dec 26th, 2002, 2:53pm
The Eagles travel to Exit 16W on the New Jersey Turnpike to take on their arch-enemy New York Giants.  In their previous matchup, Donovan McNabb and Duce Staley ran wild on the G-Men in a 17-3 MNF victory.  In recent meetings, McNabb has proven to be a Giant-killer.  The question begs, can it be done with Feeley (or Freeley as Fassel keeps referring to him)?

The game has quite a bit riding on it.  What was once expected to be a meaningless game is now crucial the the NFC playoff picture.  If the Giants win, they miraculously make the playoffs.  If they lose, they need the Saints to lose to the Panthers as well.  If the Eagles win, they have home field throughout the playoffs.  If the Eagles lose, they need a Packer loss to the Jets to maintain home field.



QB:
This will prove to be the determining factor in the game.  Can Feeley keep from throwing the INT that bites the Eagles in the hindquarters?

Feeley - 230 PaY, 10 RuY, 1 TD, 2 INT  {12}

RB:
Duce Staley was able to find the holes (gaping ones) in the first matchup.  Duce should be able to rise to the occasion again.

Staley - 90 RuY, 40 ReY, 1 TD  {19}
Levens - 20 RuY, 20 ReY  {4}
Westbrook - 25 RuY  {2}


WR:
This is where it begins to get a bit sticky.  In the first game, Thrash was the difference-maker.  Thrash, however, has not fared well since McNabb's exit.  Pinkston has more than picked up Thrash's slack in those games.  But now Pinkston is battling a turf toe injury and is questionable for Saturday's game.  If Pinky can't go, look for Freeman and Freddie Mitchell to get some more looks.

Pinkston (If he plays) - 60 ReY  {6}
Thrash - 20 ReY, 20 RuY  {4}
Freeman - 75 ReY  {7}
Mitchell (If Pinky is out) - 35 ReY  {3}


TE:
Look for Chad Lewis to assume the role of blocker in the game.  He may get a ball or two, but I wouldn't expect much.

Lewis - 20 ReY  {2}


K:
He takes advantage of every opportunity he gets.

Akers - 1 XP, 3-3 FG  {10}


Def:
Can the Eagles D slow down the Giants resurgent offense?  Yes.  But I wouldn't expect a huge fantasy game for the Eagles.

16 PA, 300 YA, 3 Sacks, 1 INT, 1 FF

*{Fantasy points are based on standard performance league scoring for those who might still care.}



And that brings us to the...

FINAL SCORE:

Eagles  16
Giants  16


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I honestly have no idea who will win this game.  I would expect it to be a hard-fought, ugly, penalty-ridden, defense-dominated, (ergo typical) Eagles-Giants game.  It would not surprise me at all to see the game end in a tie.

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by BarnabyWilde on Dec 26th, 2002, 8:06pm
A tie?!?!?!

Come on Philly, pick a winner!!!!  ;)

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by BarnabyWilde on Dec 26th, 2002, 9:04pm
I don't know about this, and here are my reasons:

1. The Giants have not allowed a rusher more than 70 yards in the last six weeks.
2. No one has rushed for more than 63 yards vs. the Giants at home this year.
3. The G-men have allowed only 4 people to rush for more than 90 yards all year. Granted, 2 were Staley and McNabb in the same game (126 and 107 respectively), the others were Marcel Shipp (92) and Michael Bennett (167).
4. Although the front seven are banged up, they are playing well right now and are fighting for thier playoff lives.
5. No McNabb. The Giants will coming for Feeley. Pressure will be on him all day long. I think they will key on stopping the run first to put more pressure on Jay to beat them.

Should be a great game.




on 12/26/02 at 14:53:48, Philly wrote:
RB:
Duce Staley was able to find the holes (gaping ones) in the first matchup.  Duce should be able to rise to the occasion again.

Staley - 90 RuY, 40 ReY, 1 TD  {19}
Levens - 20 RuY, 20 ReY  {4}
Westbrook - 25 RuY  {2}


Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by Philly on Dec 26th, 2002, 10:32pm

on 12/26/02 at 21:04:13, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I don't know about this, and here are my reasons:

1. The Giants have not allowed a rusher more than 70 yards in the last six weeks.
-Yes, but how many of those teams had legitimate rushing attacks (with healthy RBs)?

2. No one has rushed for more than 63 yards vs. the Giants at home this year.
-That doesn't explain their weak 4-3 record at home though...

3. The G-men have allowed only 4 people to rush for more than 90 yards all year. Granted, 2 were Staley and McNabb in the same game (126 and 107 respectively), the others were Marcel Shipp (92) and Michael Bennett (167).
-The Eagles have only played the Giants once this year and had 2 players go over 100 yards...Sounds good to me.

4. Although the front seven are banged up, they are playing well right now and are fighting for thier playoff lives.
Eagles offensive line are as healthy as they have been all year and are fighting for home field throughout the playoffs.

5. No McNabb. The Giants will coming for Feeley. Pressure will be on him all day long. I think they will key on stopping the run first to put more pressure on Jay to beat them.
Which is it?  Are they coming for Feeley or are they keying on the run?  The Eagles frequently throw on 1st down and run on obvious passing downs.  And, unlike McNabb, Feeley will often throw to his first read.  McNabb would go through all of his reads and end up having to run when the blocking broke down.  Feeley will get rid of the ball much more quickly than McNabb did, so that will help to neutralize that pass rush a bit.

Should be a great game.
If you like smash-mouth, defensive battles, I agree.  It will be a brawl.


And I really don't know who will win.  I agree that there may be a bit more of a sense of urgency on the part of the Giants, but I think the Eagles are still the better football team.  The prediction of a tie was a bit of a joke  [smiley=joker.gif]  but I could make a coherent argument for either team.

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by BarnabyWilde on Dec 26th, 2002, 10:54pm
Yeah, I know the Giants were 4-3 at home, but here were the leading rushers for each home game:

week 1, San Francisco (loss) Hearst 40 yards
week 3, Seattle (win) Alexander 37 yards
week 7, Atlanta (loss) Duckett 36 yards
week 9 Jacksonville (win) Brunell 63 yards
week 11 Washington (win) Davis 59 yards
week 13 Tennessee (loss) George 64 yards
week 15 Dallas (win) Hambrick 42 yards

The three losses at home were to better teams, at the time. I think the Giants can beat the Niners and the Falcons if they were to play this week. The Eagles are tougher than both of those teams and probably the Titans as well, but they are the hottet team in the NFL right now. This game is a toss up...

And Philly, check you instant messages!

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by FourTwoOh on Dec 27th, 2002, 7:26pm

Quote:
Should be a great game.
If you like smash-mouth, defensive battles, I agree.  It will be a brawl.


I do and I hope so. Long as the Eagles are the last man stnding.

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by Walker_Boh on Dec 27th, 2002, 8:19pm
Both teams possess formidable D's and have been scoring well lately on offense, but if I had to pick a winner, I'd go with the Giants. Playing at home against a McNabb-less Philly with so much at stake, I think they'll find a way to get it done. (I'll be rooting for Philly though [smiley=yes.gif])

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by BarnabyWilde on Dec 28th, 2002, 1:20am
Are there no other Giant fans on this board!?  [smiley=annoyed.gif]

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by Philly on Dec 28th, 2002, 11:11am
Let's hope not... one is more than enough.   [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif]

I still like ya though BW.  ;D

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by BarnabyWilde on Dec 28th, 2002, 11:16am
Thanks cheesesteak...


Even though you are a rival, you're allright too. Now if you were a Cowboy fan...  ;)

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by FourTwoOh on Dec 28th, 2002, 3:25pm
When's the good part of the game start? Jeesh  [smiley=sleepers.gif]

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by Philly on Dec 28th, 2002, 9:23pm
OK, I was right about the tie... I just didn't have time to go into details for the overtime.  This was a game that could have gone either way.  If Bryant's XP had boinked the goal post a 1/4 inch to the right, we might be looking at a 7-6 Eagles win.

While the loss was disappointing, I had a bad feeling about the game going in.  But the Eagles finish the season 12-4 (as I predicted at the beginning of the season) and have a 1st round bye.  I also happen to believe that the Eagles can beat the Packers in Lambeau should it come to that.  I think the Packers are beatable and the Jets could do it tomorrow.

I do need a championship game in Philly though because I'll have tix if it's at the Vet.  I was at the last championship game in Philly (win over Dallas in 1981) and would love to be at the very last Eagles game at the Vet.

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by Philly on Dec 30th, 2002, 10:47am
Woohoo!  Go J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!  I thought the Pack was ripe for a beating...

Everything worked out for the Eagles in the end.

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Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by FourTwoOh on Dec 30th, 2002, 4:18pm
As of this morning, I have an Eagles helmet as my desk top wallpaper.

Hope it doesn't end up a curse!  :o

Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by Philly on Dec 31st, 2002, 8:54am
I've had a pic of Brian Dawkins returning an INT for a TD as my wallpaper most of the season.  Been looking for one that had the picture of Dawkins hitting Hilliard on the Monday night game in week 8, but can't find a good one.  *winks at BarnabyWilde*

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Title: Re: EAGLES Week 17 Analysis
Post by BarnabyWilde on Dec 31st, 2002, 2:06pm
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