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(Message started by: Bouve on Mar 11^th, 2003, 9:47am)

Title: Brian Griese
Post by Bouve on Mar 11^th, 2003, 9:47am

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/5362684.htm

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-fish11mar11,0,1788199.story?coll=sfla%2Ddolphins%2Dfront

hopefully no team offers him a starting job cause I love love to see him as Miami's #2 QB thus getting rid of Ray Lucas.

Title: Re: Brian Griese to meet with Norv Turner this wee
Post by StegRock on Mar 11^th, 2003, 1:23pm

In lieu of having a thread for every single place a free-agent QB visits, I made the one linked to below. Until the guy signs, it just does not make sense to continuously create new threads, or at least set such a precedent. I do not want to set a standard (especially now in the early-going) of unecessary thread proliferation. So, it is good to always check the first two or three pages of "the Red Zone" first, e.g. if/when a quarterback signs in Chicago, there is already a thread set up for that; it is currently fairly far down on page 2. Actually, when first arriving (for the day), making it a point to visit pages 1 through 3 or so of "the Red Zone", and page 1 of both "between the 20's" and "the Sidelines" would be a good habit to get into. That's one big reason as to why we only have three "main" boards. That's not too much ground to cover, especially if we keep the creation of new threads to a minimum.

Another way of dealing with this (Bouve) is to convert this thread to an "(Early) Offseason Report" thread for the Dolphins like many others of us have done for other teams or make it a "Brian Griese" thread, another pattern dudes have used. Again, I just want to minimize the number of threads created (as best as possible) a) so things don't go flying off the first pages of the boards, and b) because more substantive, thorough and, thus, productive discussion can take place when all material related to a specific issue is kept on one thread.

In any event, regarding the specific issue at hand, please reference the following thread:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;action=display;num=1042663774.

One last thing... good job, Bouve, for apparently utilizing "the Gridiron Newsstand" in your post. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] This is to everyone... Even if you find your info somewhere else, it would be cool if you could cross-check it over at "the Gridiron Newsstand" as, for obvious reasons, it is much better if we can use/cite our own resource when reporting.

Thank you... for your anticipated cooperation![smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by StegRock on Mar 13^th, 2003, 8:00pm

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E86%257E1237335%257E,00.html

Contrary to the report above that the NFL was going to allow Griese to make preliminary visits to teams before June 1st and without a trade finalized, for the purposes of exploring the possibilities of a trade, the word now out of "the Gridiron Newsstand" is that he will not be allowed to do so. Here is the quote from the Denver Post:

"Broncos quarterback Brian Griese spoke with the Miami Dolphins this week, but the NFL said Wednesday he will be unable to visit any teams until the Broncos trade or release him.

This will prevent Griese from visiting Chicago, a team that wanted to bring him in for a physical on his left shoulder, which underwent surgery about six weeks ago"

Of course, Chicago is now a moot issue.

The link to the whole article is here, but everything relevant to this issue is quoted above:
http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E86%257E1239739%257E,00.html.

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by DOLFAN on Mar 13^th, 2003, 8:29pm

Poor Brian, he never got the respect he deserved IMO. He is not GREAT by any means. He had to follow a HOF QB in Elway. He had a couple of solid seasons and could be a satrter for a few teams, but Denver limited that option for him. I hope he gets a shot to backup someone where he has a chance to compete for a starting spot. Too bad it prolly wont happen.

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by StegRock on Mar 13^th, 2003, 10:06pm

on 03/13/03 at 20:29:32, DOLFAN wrote:

He had a couple of solid seasons and could be a satrter for a few teams, but Denver limited that option for him.

[smiley=lost.gif]

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by FourTwoOh on Mar 13^th, 2003, 11:52pm

on 03/13/03 at 20:00:48, StegRock wrote:

This whole "he can, he can't" stuff baffles me. It's not as if Griese is the first player told to feel free to seek a trade cause we intend to cut you June 1st. Why isn't there a clean cut precedent to follow? ??? ???

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by Walker Boh on Mar 14^th, 2003, 8:30am

on 03/13/03 at 20:29:32, DOLFAN wrote:

As the old saying goes, you have to earn respect. I was a big fan of Griese's, but most of his problems were self inflicted. [smiley=shootmyself.gif] It's not easy trying to replace the greatest QB of all time and there was a lot of pressure placed on his shoulders. How did he respond? Well, first he got arrested for DUI while speeding in his car. [smiley=alcoholic.gif] OK, we all make mistakes... smart people learn from them. He followed that up by "slipping" on a friends driveway late one night at a party (probably en route to driving under the influence again) knocking himself unconscious and splitting his eye open. [smiley=doh.gif] And then he "tripped" over his [smiley=dog.gif] and injured his leg. Sure, accidents happen, but when you have a past history of drinking problems it's hard not to assume the worst. [smiley=dunce.gif] Shanahan went out on a limb and gave Griese a big contract and Brian repaid him by continually embarrassing himself (and the organization) with his poor decision making. There's no doubt in my mind that these off the field problems affected his play on the field and his ability to command the respect of his teammates. I hope Brian gets his act together and I wish him the best, but he deserved what he got.

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by StegRock on Apr 3^rd, 2003, 1:00pm

So, let's speculate, boyz! Where does this guy end up come June (or before then if you think a trade is actually a viable option)?

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Apr 3^rd, 2003, 3:13pm

There is no speculation needed. He WILL be a Miami Dolphin.

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by Bouve on Apr 3^rd, 2003, 5:06pm

on 04/03/03 at 15:13:43, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:

There is no speculation needed. He WILL be a Miami Dolphin.

From everything I have heard, seen and read Griese is Miami bound on June 1st.

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by StegRock on Apr 3^rd, 2003, 5:11pm

What about Baltimore? And, I know Dallas officials have said that they are not really interested in Griese. But, couldn't you see a change of heart come June 1st?

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by Bouve on Apr 3^rd, 2003, 7:05pm

on 04/03/03 at 17:11:23, StegRock wrote:

What about Baltimore? And, I know Dallas officials have said that they are not really interested in Griese. But, couldn't you see a change of heart come June 1st?

As of right now there is a 95% chance he is going to Miami come June 1st. In fact a local TV station in Denver reported that it was a done deal.

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by FourTwoOh on Apr 4^th, 2003, 2:58am

on 04/03/03 at 19:05:17, Bouve wrote:

As of right now there is a 95% chance he is going to Miami come June 1st. In fact a local TV station in Denver reported that it was a done deal.

Just in case you are wondering, I would still like for you to leave, permanently. Thank you for your consideration.

Title: Re: Brian Griese
Post by Bouve on Apr 4^th, 2003, 10:59am

on 04/04/03 at 02:58:42, FourTwoOh wrote:

Just in case you are wondering, I would still like for you to leave, permanently. Thank you for your consideration.

noted and rejected. Good day. ::)