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(Message started by: StegRock on Mar 14^th, 2003, 12:57pm)

Title: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 14^th, 2003, 12:57pm

Well, now that all the rest of the dominoes have fallen, it seemed like this was a thread needing to be started. Bottom line, I am not getting the Ravens QB hunt at all. Griese could be a decent get, IF THEY CAN GET HIM. Though, as I expressed on the "Free-agent QB's thread", I do not think it is a good move, it looks like he is on his way to Miami. And, does Baltimore really want to wait until after June 1st to start prepping their starting QB? [smiley=no.gif] Or, are they really going to be willing to pay the high price it would take to get him in a trade with Denver? [smiley=no.gif]

Here's what I think, and I know some of you (are going to) think I am crazy [smiley=gonecrazy.gif] , but they should just go out and sign Jeff George, yes, Jeff George. First, he would come for the league minimum, especially if he is to be dubbed their starter. Second, he is not that old, at least by today's standards of successful oldie QB's; he is 35. They have a young upstart in Redman, who should be ready to take the reigns within three years, anyway, and this year's draft offers up some decent quarterbacks, to boot. But, the most significant part of the equation that works out is that George played under Billick in Minnesota, pretty darn well at that; he is already familiar with Billick's system, and we all know he has a cannon for an arm, which Holmgren confirmed last year he still has and that Billick we all know loves. I don't know... it just makes sense to me.

Anybody else want to chime in?

Edited to adjust the Topic!

Title: Re: Ravens QB Hunt... buy George, by George!
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14^th, 2003, 1:14pm

As crazy as that sounds (as as you sound Steg!), it does make sense in a way. I mean, Redmon is a year away, and George does now the system, and more than likely has a good year left in him.

Title: Re: Ravens QB Hunt... buy George, by George!
Post by Philly on Mar 14^th, 2003, 1:18pm

I would love to see it happen, and, as you elucidated, Steg... it makes sense.

Title: Re: Ravens QB Hunt... buy George, by George!
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Mar 14^th, 2003, 4:14pm

Let me put it quite simply...

Jeff George is GARBAGE!

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report: Browns returning
Post by StegRock on Mar 19^th, 2003, 1:01pm

Well, that guy who was out of the league for three years, OT Orlando Brown, is back in the NFL with the Ravens along with LB Cornell Brown. Here is the LATEST from "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.sunspot.net/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens19mar19,0,3364408.story?coll=bal%2Dsports%2Dfootball;

http://www.ravenszone.net/template.php?subsection=single_news_show&section=press&content_id=1754.

Any thoughts, especially regarding Orlando Brown's comeback?

Just for your information, the original discussion on Orlando Brown was conducted on the following thread if you want to check it out:
http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;action=display;num=1045322036.

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report: Sanders inked!
Post by StegRock on Apr 16^th, 2003, 10:43pm

Just read it on "The REAL Feed" and then substantiated it on "the Gridiron Newsstand"... WR Frank Sanders becomes a bird of a different feather:

http://www.ravenszone.net/template.php?subsection=single_news_show&section=press&content_id=1932.

Four-year deal! I suspect he'll be startin' opposite Travis Taylor. He could have a decent season in Billick's offense... to the tune of 800+ yards and 6 TD's! [smiley=shrug.gif] Not bad! Any other thoughts?

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report: Sanders inked!
Post by Philly on Apr 17^th, 2003, 9:49am

I'm still not sold on Sanders. He had a decent QB (Plummer) in AZ and a threat (Boston) on the other side of the field to take attention off of him, and was still unable to be a quality player.

Now he has a question mark at QB (Redman?), a TE who gets a lot of balls (Heap), and a run-oriented offense with a healthy Jamal Lewis.

I imagine he'll be a free agent in my league for most, if not all, of the 2003 season.

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report: Sanders inked!
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Apr 18^th, 2003, 12:49am

I was hopin' it was the signing of a different Sanders... Deion.

Frank Sanders? Whatever.... :\

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report: Sanders inked!
Post by Philly on Apr 18^th, 2003, 9:17am

What is the subject of this thread? "Sanders inked"? Should change it to "Sanders stinked".

;D ::)

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on May 1^st, 2003, 5:21pm

From the Gridiron Newstand...

Ravens sign Marcus Robinson to a one year deal. Anyone think he can be any use fantasy-wise, or are his best years (year) behind him?

http://www.ravenszone.net/template.php?subsection=single_news_show&section=press&content_id=2135

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 1^st, 2003, 6:38pm

I believe so... the same situation here with Muhsin Muhammad. Potentially great WRs... though status greatly hurt due to constant injuries.

Take a shot at this guy near the late rounds. If he can stay healthy he will be a very pleasent sleeper, especially considering the lack of a "star" WR in Baltimore, at the moment.

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 1^st, 2003, 8:57pm

Here is a little local corroboration of Robinson's going to Baltimore from "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.sunspot.net/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens01may01,0,7759910.story?coll=bal%2Dsports%2Dfootball.

Personally, I think he is done! That having been said, this is a great situation for him vis-a-vis three of the four other options he had as per the article: Oakland, Detroit or Arizona. San Fran, which they also mention, probably would have been the best destination for him of them all with Baltimore being the second-best as I see it. [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by mcohen on May 29^th, 2003, 2:19am

Jeff George would do no better for the Ravens than Elvis Grbac did.

The Ravens will win the Super Bowl behind Chris Redman. Then Redman will leave in free agency, Kyle Boller will be the starter, and he will dominate for many many years.

You heard it here first.

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 29^th, 2003, 2:35am

Oh, you're keepin' me awake here, kid! ;) Anyway, aside from the Super Bowl guarantee, I agree with a lot of what you portend, MC. I actually think Chris Redman is very underrated. Before he went down with the injury last year, I thought he was slowly, but steadily improving, especially considering what he had to work with. Yes, Blake did better with the same, but he is a veteran and, perhaps, a bit more mobile. I still think Redman can be a solid NFL pocket quarterback someday somewhere. Okay, now it is time for... [smiley=sleepers.gif]

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on May 29^th, 2003, 3:21am

Pass some of that over here...

[smiley=bonghit.gif]

on 05/29/03 at 02:19:54, mcohen wrote:

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by mcohen on Jun 3^rd, 2003, 2:13am

As an avid Ravsn fan [tough to guess, eh?] I thought I might chime in on the Ravens QB search.

You may well be right about Redman. I actually agree that the steady progress he showed last year before the injury convinced me that he was going to succeed in the NFL.

But I dont think that casts the Ravens QB moves in a bad light. First, they negotiated with Blake, officially under the assumption that Blake was the starter hands down. But I had a sneaking suspicion that in reality they wanted to see Redman compete for it. And this attitude showed in their offers to Blake, which really were below par for a starter, as Blake kept saying.

Truth is, they didnt want to bring Blake back unless it was a situation where it made sense to give the starter's job to whoever earned it.

And they did this precisely because they knew Redman could be the real deal.

So why get Boller? Precisely because of the word "could." You certainly dont want to enter a season with Anthony Wright as your backup, not when your expectations are to return to the playoffs. You want Redman to have a chance, but you dont want to hand it to him without someone at least pushing his back.

Enter Kyle Boller. Was it stupid to bring in a young QB when they already have one? I dont think it was.

Look back at the first round QB picks in recent history, and they have roughly a 50-50 shot of becoming an established starter down the line.

Obviously, if you have two of these QBs, the odds of finding at least one who will perform for you in the long term is rather good. And the Ravens have a year to find out

1) If Redman's progress continues
2) If Boller's potential shown in the past year sprouts into productivity.

And if both happen....then you have 2 good QBs, and there are plenty of teams that would love to have just 1.

Although the Ravens call Boller the QB of the future, I think that if Redman plays very well this year, then they'lll bring him back next year with Boller as the backup.

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by DOLFAN on Jun 3^rd, 2003, 12:29pm

I think Redman is the better qb "at present" He was playing well last year before his injury. His stats were fabulous. The only person at that time was Lewis. Billick had switched to a ball control team based on personel...no Moss/Carter. Taylor and Heap are improving too and Robinson will help. I beleive Redman knows the system better and did everything that was asked of him. 7 tds, 3 ints, 53%, 1053 yds, 76 passer rating in 5.5 games. not too bad. Add that to Blakes stats 13 tds, 11 ints, 55%, 2084 yds, 77 passer rating in 10.5 games. Very similar #s except for the MUCH higher int ratio for Blake. Combine them and you get 3100 yds, 20 tds. Not bad in a ball control offense with only 1 solid WR/Taylor. Last everyone was talking about Redmand being Smart, improving reading better and not making mistakes. He is the man there.
I think it was smart to get Boller. Redman is in yr 4, with only 6 games under his belt. You can never have enough smart young good qbs on your team. I think it is Redman's job to lose. He only lost it last year because of injury. He is not Favre or Daunte , but i think the improved OL and Robinson now there they will improve passing wise. Fantasy wise a solid backup.

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jun 5^th, 2003, 6:24pm

http://espn.go.com/nfl/overview/ravens2002.html

Off-Season Overview

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 31^st, 2003, 1:41am

Well, it's ALL over "The REAL Feed" if you missed it...

First-rounder Boller, Ravens reach agreement
NFL.com (30.07.2003 19:52)
The Baltimore Ravens and holdout quarterback Kyle Boller reached a verbal agreement on a five-year deal.

Ravens reach deal with QB Boller
The Sports Network: NFL (30.07.2003 20:50)

Holdout over: Ravens agree to deal with QB Boller
ESPN NFL (30.07.2003 21:02)

Here is ALL the LOCAL LOWDOWN from "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.ravenszone.net/template.php?subsection=single_news_show&section=press&content_id=2460;

http://www.sunspot.net/sports/football/bal-boller0730,0,169025.story?coll=bal-sports-football.

How do you guys weigh in on Boller? And, what do you all think of Redman in general and in light of Boller's presence? I, for one, think that Redman could be a good NFL quarterback if given the chance to develop, a la the way Steve McNair was. Boller was a one-year wonder in college, a la Akili Smith, kind of. I like the tools he appears to bring to the table, but you never know, a la Ryan Leaf. I do think he will be given the chance to unseat Redman sooner rather than later, but Redman will start the season the starter.

Title: Re: Ravens Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jul 31^st, 2003, 9:21am

I think Redman is your starter at the beginning of the season, but I think Redman is an average QB at best (a la Scott Mitchell, Jon Kitna, Jim Miller - someone who is serviceable and will put up some nice numbers now and then, but is not someone you can always count on).

As far as Boller... I think he is the product of hype and will not pan out in the NFL. He'll get his shot to start sometime this year, but don't count on him for much.