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(Message started by: BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 5:28pm)
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 5:28pm
I know what league you are refering too. Considering who is running it, I'd quit.  ;D

Sorry, I know you said to make you feel better. Maybe you can be a part of the Gridiron League when we get it started later on.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Sepphoris on Mar 14th, 2003, 5:31pm
I needed to get to that spot, cause you know who traded for 1.1.

Anyway let me know I'd love to play in the league here.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by StegRock on Mar 14th, 2003, 5:47pm
Oh, this is confusing... [smiley=lost.gif]

This is not a re-stocking draft, right?  It is a draft for a brand new league, yes?

If so, the short of it is that you got a 1.4 (and some late-round love) for a 1.10 and a 2.3.  So, you pick 4th and then you don't pick again until 35th (am I getting this right?).  Honestly, I would rather have picked 10th and 15th.  Maybe the late-rounders, particularly the 11th- and 12th-rounders, will make it worth it. :-/ Well, that's my take! [smiley=zenmaster.gif]
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 5:52pm
I know. If he doesn't get Ricky Williams, he'll take his ball and go home!



on 03/14/03 at 17:31:34, Sepphoris wrote:
I needed to get to that spot, cause you know who traded for 1.1.

Anyway let me know I'd love to play in the league here.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Sepphoris on Mar 14th, 2003, 5:57pm
I know I put myself in a bit of a bind without a 2nd RD pick. I'm not done trading yet though. I just felt I needed to get one of the elite RB's to even compete. It's for no $ anyway. Actually I'm happy w/ what I did. I can draft with the best of them. I'm sure I'll surprise a few people on draft day.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 6:27pm

on 03/14/03 at 17:52:57, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I know. If he doesn't get Ricky Williams, he'll take his ball and go home!


I had the 3rd pick and traded up to the 1st.

<Calling members liars will not be tolerated. Thank you.>

::)
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 6:50pm
You traded up to get Ricky, pure and simple. You knew that he'd be taken, and that just isn't acceptable to you, playing in a league and not having RW on your team.

And who called you a liar? Get your facts straight Sherlock...
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 6:53pm

on 03/14/03 at 18:50:37, BarnabyWilde wrote:
You traded up to get Ricky, pure and simple. You knew that he'd be taken, and that just isn't acceptable to you, playing in a league and not having RW on your team.

And who called you a liar? Get your facts straight Sherlock...


exactly I traded up to get the best player IMO. But what does any of what goes on over there have to do with me over here? You said it would be different and I said it would be as I wouldn't bring the baggage over here but you were the one who started it.

Why the hell am I being blamed?
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:00pm
I just answered Sepph's question with an honest answer, that's all...

Question to you is, can you play fantasy football without Ricky Williams on your team? If the answer is no, you have issues. If yes, then I'll stop the Bouve bashing here

And you are out of control over there I might add.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:08pm

on 03/14/03 at 19:00:15, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I just answered Sepph's question with an honest answer, that's all...

Question to you is, can you play fantasy football without Ricky Williams on your team? If the answer is no, you have issues. If yes, then I'll stop the Bouve bashing here

And you are out of control over there I might add.


I could draft anywhere and not take RW and field a great team but if I think he is the best player for next year why wouldn't I look into moving up in the draft to ensure I get him? We are playing to win right?

And if we are being honest your still a knob there and here :-*

This will be my last post here and I get the feeling this place is like Germany during the war.

Best of luck Steg perhaps if your more loyal posters stick to your rules instead of your mods only policing the newer ones you may find better luck attracting posters.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:20pm
Aww...darn!  :'(

I think it is hysterical that you call me a knob! I see you are thinking of Ricky as you vent your anger towards me!

And if this is Germany during WWII, then you must be France, whose city streets are lined with trees so the Germans can have a little shade.  ;)


Au Revior Bouve!



on 03/14/03 at 19:08:13, Bouve wrote:
I could draft anywhere and not take RW and field a great team but if I think he is the best player for next year why wouldn't I look into moving up in the draft to ensure I get him? We are playing to win right?

And if we are being honest your still a knob there and here :-*

This will be my last post here and I get the feeling this place is like Germany during the war.

Best of luck Steg perhaps if your more loyal posters stick to your rules instead of your mods only policing the newer ones you may find better luck attracting posters.
Title: :'(Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Sepphoris on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:26pm
Lord help me. Why oh why did I tell him about this place.

Please forgive me fellow Gridiron's :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re:  :'(Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:32pm
Sepph,
I harbor no ill will towards you. I just think Bouve is annoying both here and there, everywhere I am sure.

If you notice the difference between here and there, you can see the quality and knowledge level here is much better, with absolutley no crap to filter through. Only football posts, which is how it should be!!

Don't sweat it!!



on 03/14/03 at 19:26:54, Sepphoris wrote:
Lord help me. Why oh why did I tell him about this place.

Please forgive me fellow Gridiron's :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re:  :'(Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:36pm

on 03/14/03 at 19:26:54, Sepphoris wrote:
Lord help me. Why oh why did I tell him about this place.

Please forgive me fellow Gridiron's :'( :'( :'( :'(


One last parting post:

Its not your fault. Remember how I told you that I should have signed up here under a different name? Well this is why. I was more then willing to come here with a clean slate and I did everything Steg asked of me and I ensured him I would be on my best behaviour and I was.

But sadly BW had to bring up stuff from that other site to here for no reason even after he said he wouldn't.

I would have been more then content to continuing to post here and I could probably give and get more football info here then there but Barnaby had to ruin that by calling me out.

So why do my posts get edited for calling him something when his post stays after he implies the exact same thing?

I don't mind the strict rules but at least be consistent.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:38pm
Who edited your post, and which one?
Title: Re:  :'(Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by FourTwoOh on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:43pm

on 03/14/03 at 19:26:54, Sepphoris wrote:
Lord help me. Why oh why did I tell him about this place.

Please forgive me fellow Gridiron's :'( :'( :'( :'(



[Father Guido Sarducci] Let me'a tell you what I'ma gonna do...Nothing, cause there is'a nothing to do[/Father Guido Sarducci]  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:54pm

on 03/14/03 at 19:38:39, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Who edited your post, and which one?


9 posts up. One of the mods edited it and then I edited it to include  ::)

I called you a liar cause you said you were going to wipe the slate clean and not bring up stuff from the other board.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 7:58pm
I don't think I would have brought it up, but it's getting BAD over there. You have to admit that...




on 03/14/03 at 19:54:14, Bouve wrote:
9 posts up. One of the mods edited it and then I edited it to include  ::)

I called you a liar cause you said you were going to wipe the slate clean and not bring up stuff from the other board.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:08pm

on 03/14/03 at 19:58:27, BarnabyWilde wrote:
I don't think I would have brought it up, but it's getting BAD over there. You have to admit that...


I know it is but I cannot be to blame for it all. I swear to GOD I have never used an alias over there. All I do is post my opinion and they I am forced to standup for myself when people flame me.

Lately its not even that my opinion is different but because its me they criticize. A good example is the Cincy threads started by sadincincy. I was vocal about the signings being worthless as were a few others but sadincincy calls me out cause its the "cool" thing to do.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:09pm
And I am done on this subject. Go if you want, stay if you please. I don't care.


Just look at page one of the other board and see how many of the posts are football related, and how many are Bouve related.

Football: 18
Bouve: 15 (this includes posts started by you)
There are a few others that don't qualify for either.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:12pm

on 03/14/03 at 20:09:40, BarnabyWilde wrote:
And I am done on this subject. Go if you want, stay if you please. I don't care.


Just look at page one of the other board and see how many of the posts are football related, and how many are Bouve related.

Football: 18
Bouve: 15 (this includes posts started by you)
There are a few others that don't qualify for either.


Yeah its pathetic I know. As I am posting over here someone is over there ghost bumping all the Bouve threads back to the top and of course I will be blamed for it.

It should be noted that once FFToday goes pay most people who either don't care or can't afford it will flock over here so be prepared for that.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:18pm
If you are not responsible for any of that shit, then I appologize. It's kinda hard not to believe it, but I know enough people over there were worn by your constant RW posts to sabbotage (sp?) you.

I know I am not the only person here that agrees with me. The reaseon it is so strict over here compared to there is just for that reason: no crap, no alises, just football. It's the way it should be. Maybe I was too harsh, but it's just the way I felt. I was tired of the over-a-Bouve-ness of posts over there relating to you. Maybe they are not all yours, maybe they are. I don't really care anymore. If you can play by Steg's rules and like it here, stay. If not, then go.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:23pm

on 03/14/03 at 20:18:12, BarnabyWilde wrote:
If you are not responsible for any of that shit, then I appologize. It's kinda hard not to believe it, but I know enough people over there were worn by your constant RW posts to sabbotage (sp?) you.

I know I am not the only person here that agrees with me. The reaseon it is so strict over here compared to there is just for that reason: no crap, no alises, just football. It's the way it should be. Maybe I was too harsh, but it's just the way I felt. I was tired of the over-a-Bouve-ness of posts over there relating to you. Maybe they are not all yours, maybe they are. I don't really care anymore. If you can play by Steg's rules and like it here, stay. If not, then go.


I just hope Mike does something soon. Someone said he was away, not sure how they know but I suspect whoever is having the alias party was privy to that info earlier.

Like I said I can play by the rules just as long as none of what I do over there is brought up here.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Sepphoris on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:29pm
On a humorous side, sooo nobody likes my trade?
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:29pm
No.
;)


on 03/14/03 at 20:29:07, Sepphoris wrote:
On a humorous side, sooo nobody likes my trade?
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by FourTwoOh on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:36pm
A bit steep, but not the disaster some have made it out to be. If you end up some howacquiring a 2nd round pick thru further trading, you'll reduce the risk you are currently taking. If Mr 1.4 goes down, you are hurtin'.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Sepphoris on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:43pm
I'm working on getting 2.10 or 2.11. But your right about my 1.4 getting :-X . I thought you were on my side :D  





on 03/14/03 at 20:36:25, FourTwoOh wrote:
A bit steep, but not the disaster some have made it out to be. If you end up some howacquiring a 2nd round pick thru further trading, you'll reduce the risk you are currently taking. If Mr 1.4 goes down, you are hurtin'.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 8:45pm

on 03/14/03 at 20:43:10, Sepphoris wrote:
I'm working on getting 2.10 or 2.11. But your right about my 1.4 getting :-X . I thought you were on my side :D  


I thought the trade was fine. At 1st I was a little skeptical but after looking at what picks you had I thought it was fine.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Sepphoris on Mar 14th, 2003, 9:12pm
Bouve what do you want for your 3.3?
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Bouve on Mar 14th, 2003, 9:41pm

on 03/14/03 at 21:12:12, Sepphoris wrote:
Bouve what do you want for your 3.3?


Are you looking to move up or down?
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by StegRock on Mar 14th, 2003, 9:46pm
I just want to say that this has been a productive thread and discussion in an odd way.  No, Sepp, unfortunately not really regarding your trade, and this ultimately should probably be going on on "the Sidelines", BUT things have really come full circle here.

Some notes to a few of you...

Bouve, your conduct here is actually fine.  Your welcome here is still very intact.  As you said, I think you know that things are going to be different here and all evidence points to your compliance. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
(RETRACTION...  Sorry!  It was just brought to my attention that your message was slightly modified!  I can only suppose that it was necessary.  Let's let it go at any rate.)

BW, kudos to you too, brother, for ultimately taking the high road here and letting him off the hook in the end.  The fact is here he has been cool thus far and you honored that reality when "push came to shove." [smiley=bow.gif]

Sepp, ABSOLUTELY NO WORRIES on your part!  Stop apologizing for Bouve and to us.  He's not your responsibility just because you invited him.  In any case, his conduct has been fine here, and ultimately it is our job to keep the place free of freaks, not yours.  No apologies necessary! :)

Finally, by way of this thread, Sepphoris and Bouve were able to meet a benchmark!  They are now full-fledged... [smiley=smileytrash.gif] [smiley=smileytrash.gif]  ;)
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Sepphoris on Mar 14th, 2003, 9:57pm
I want to move up.
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Sepphoris on Mar 14th, 2003, 9:58pm
Thanks Steg ;)
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Mar 15th, 2003, 1:08am
Um.. Bouve, this league wouldn't happen to be the one you were advertising over at the other boards? Would it?
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Sepphoris on Mar 15th, 2003, 1:58am
I just traded my 4.3 & 5.10 for 2.6 & 10.7 :-[
I now have picks 1.4 & 2.6  & 3.10     no   4-5 ???
Working on a couple other deals. a 4th and a 5th RD w/ 8th Rd swap. Opinions?
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Walker Boh on Mar 15th, 2003, 9:28am
This thread has me dazed and confused.[smiley=stars.gif] It started with a bunch of numbers and then it turned into an episode of Sally Jesse Rafael... I must admit, I'm a little disappointed.[smiley=thumbsdown.gif]

I don't like the idea of trading draft picks. The draft is designed to give every player an equal chance to field a solid team. With all of those trades being thrown around, the balance of power is bound to shift and the entire league has to pay for one person's bad decision. Do these trades need the approval of the league?
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by Agamemnon on Mar 15th, 2003, 10:15am

on 03/15/03 at 09:28:51, Walker Boh wrote:
I don't like the idea of trading draft picks. The draft is designed to give every player an equal chance to field a solid team. With all of those trades being thrown around, the balance of power is bound to shift and the entire league has to pay for one person's bad decision.


I agree with this logic in its entirety.  

On the sub-issue of this thread, I signed out of the "other board" over all the garbage going on last night (it was up to 18 Bouve threads on the front page).  Bouve, I'd like to offer you a little friendly advice, though you certainly haven't asked for it.  You seem to feel a need to respond every time somebody flames you.  Don't!  It fans the "flames"....  Ignore it and move on with your business.  
Title: Re: Traded Draft Picks..??
Post by StegRock on Mar 15th, 2003, 1:06pm

on 03/15/03 at 09:28:51, Walker Boh wrote:
This thread has me dazed and confused.[smiley=stars.gif] It started with a bunch of numbers and then it turned into an episode of Sally Jesse Rafael... I must admit, I'm a little disappointed.[smiley=thumbsdown.gif]


Sorry! :-[ I was not around when all this went down to possibly put a stop to it.  I ultimately agree, though.  This is something we should NOT do again.  I will say this much, though, it did kind of wind down, or wind up, however you want to put it, somewhat nicely, i.e. it came to somewhat of a productive conclusion and offered up "some" closure on some "issues" some of the "players" had (with each other).


on 03/15/03 at 10:15:03, Agamemnon wrote:
On the sub-issue of this thread, I signed out of the "other board" over all the garbage going on last night (it was up to 18 Bouve threads on the front page).  Bouve, I'd like to offer you a little friendly advice, though you certainly haven't asked for it.  You seem to feel a need to respond every time somebody flames you.  Don't!  It fans the "flames"....  Ignore it and move on with your business.


I couldn't have said it any better.  Bouve, this is exactly how I would have answered the question you posed to me:  "I am just defending myself, wouldn't you do the same thing?"  Sometimes the best defense in these kinds of "forums" is to just sit back and not create any more "offense" (in both senses of the word, I suppose) for the other team.

Side note, Agamemnon, I love your posts. [smiley=smitten.gif] Very insightful. [smiley=zenmaster.gif] Why can't you hang out here more often (and at least get out of that Tackling Dummy category ;D )?

Finally, as for giving any more takes on these trades that are going down in this league. [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] I, like Walker, am completely[smiley=lost.gif] .  Just doing that first assessment was tough.  Now, it's just getting downright convoluted.  Sorry, Sepphoris!


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