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(Message started by: StegRock on Mar 18^th, 2003, 2:57pm)

Title: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 18^th, 2003, 2:57pm

Well, just when it looked like the 49ers found a solid #2 wideout to complement Owens (no, not, "compliment", which he does not need any more of) ;) ;D , said player, restricted free-agent Tai Streets, is saying he wants out. Here is ALL the LATEST HOT off "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~10835~1251968,00.html;

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/news/18niners_c1.html.

Will this actually happen? Or, if/when push comes to shove, will the 49ers retain him? I mean it has already been being reported on our "Jets WR" thread that the 49ers appear willing to make it so the Jets can get him without having to give up a 1st-round pick, which is the necessary compensation to acquire a restricted free-agent not under a "new" contract. What do you all think?

Edited to adjust the Topic!

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report: Streets wants out!
Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 18^th, 2003, 5:34pm

Seems to me that all restricted free agents want out. They all want more money now instead of later. There is a pattern developing this year.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report: Streets wants out!
Post by StegRock on Mar 19^th, 2003, 1:21pm

According to "the Gridiron Newsstand", here is ALL the news on how the 49ers have been able to hold on to Streets thus far and plan to continue to do so:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2003/03/19/SP248086.DTL;

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/5427656.htm;

http://www.pressdemo.com/49ers/news/19nflnotes_c3.html.

Smart move for the team. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] But, lame news from a fantasy standpoint. :-/

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report: Streets wants out!
Post by Walker Boh on Mar 19^th, 2003, 11:46pm

I think Streets has taken one too many to the head. [smiley=gettinhammered.gif]

The guy had a decent season, but he's no superstar. I think he has a lot of nerve asking to be trading and demanding a 9 million dollar signing bonus... are you kidding me? What team is going to give up their first round draft pick and give him 9 million to boot? This is almost laughable.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DocNiner52 on Mar 28^th, 2003, 7:26pm

Yes. I agree Streets is no superstar and he's trying to command more money than he's worth right now. It would be in his best interest to stay with the Niners this year, have a productive season and then maybe next year he might have a little more success in getting the money he wants.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 3^rd, 2003, 1:33pm

Well, well, well, with Streets's staying put, the team has officially told J. J. Stokes to go out and find himself a trade! Good idea! Time to cut this dead [smiley=skull.gif] weight! No corroboration from the Newsstand yet, but a link to the piece currently sits second to the top of "the Real Feed"!

Also, from "the Gridiron Newsstand", the 49ers are showing interest in former Rams DT D'Marco Farr who has been in retirement for the last two years. [smiley=hmmmm.gif] Here is the report:

http://www.pressdemo.com/49ers/news/02niners_c3.html.

What do you think about that? Good [smiley=gotanidea.gif] or Headin' out to picket [smiley=Imwithstupid.gif] !

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 3^rd, 2003, 2:02pm

Well, as somewhat of a follow-up to the D'Marco Farr report above, the 49ers decided to bolster their d-line a little more conventionally, signing Lions free-agent DT Travis Kirschke. Saw it first atop "The REAL Feed"; then corroborated it with the lowdown info available at "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.sf49ers.com/newsroom/DisplayNews.asp?newsid=1144.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Apr 3^rd, 2003, 3:15pm

I've always wanted to know what happened to Farr. I kinda thought he retired, though, was it because of age or injury? I don't remember Farr being all that old.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on Apr 4^th, 2003, 4:19pm

Hey guys,

Been outta the country for a while in Cancun(vacation) and Montreal(consulting) so I've been way out of it. Anyways, I basically agree with the general thoughts of this thread.

Streets>Stokes and Stokes needs to be cut. Streets isn't that great tho so I don't know why he thinks he'll make money off FA. I mean, he's perpetually injured and had 1-2 good games catching balls opposite Owens... not exactly stud-receiver creds.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Apr 5^th, 2003, 5:27pm

on 04/03/03 at 15:15:15, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:

I've always wanted to know what happened to Farr. I kinda thought he retired, though, was it because of age or injury? I don't remember Farr being all that old.

Some questions are just left to be unanswered :P

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 5^th, 2003, 5:36pm

on 04/05/03 at 17:27:27, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:

Some questions are just left to be unanswered :P

I, for one, don't know! [smiley=gotanidea.gif] You could send an e-mail to our resident Rams fan "Marshall_Law". He does not come around too often, but he may if requested to by e-mail. There is no harm in trying (to bring one of the family members "on-line" with us)!

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Daunte Williams on Apr 7^th, 2003, 12:02am

-- 49ers May Cut Hearst -- from FFMastermind.com

PFW reports San Francisco 49ers RB Garrison Hearst could become a surprise cap casualty

Very interesting.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Apr 7^th, 2003, 12:27am

As a fantasy owner of Barlow, that last post got me looking....

Here is the exact quote from ProFootballWeekly.com
Please note, it is in their WHISPERS section:

With new 49ers head coach Dennis Erickson possibly leaning toward more one-RB sets, there is an outside shot that RB Garrison Hearst becomes a surprise cap casualty.

I am not surprised at this rumor at all. I have heard this for the past few months. Gotta remember that Erickson has NO loyalty to Hearst. The one guy who had strong ties to him was Coach Rathman, and he went to Detroit with Mariucci.

If Hearst became a cap casualty, 10 to 1 he will sign in Detroit. PERFECT FIT!!!

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 7^th, 2003, 1:01am

Dirk, way to go on getting the exact quote there from Pro Football Weekly, which is NOW available at "the Gridiron Newsstand"! Whether or not you actually went there via the Newsstand (note, this would not be a good time to show your veracity to me... just let me believe whatever... unless, of course, you did ;D ), I REALLY appreciate your using our (de facto) "endorsed" sources! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on Apr 7^th, 2003, 5:45pm

Cutting Hearst would be a mistake. Barlow still can't pick up a blitz. However, it does vault Barlow into top 13 RB's if it occurs.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report: Farr... in!
Post by StegRock on Apr 18^th, 2003, 1:54pm

Well, it is currently atop "The REAL Feed" and further corroboration from "the Gridiron Newsstand" was sure to be found... DT D'Marco Farr unretires and joins the 9ers:

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/5664078.htm;

http://www.sf49ers.com/newsroom/DisplayNews.asp?newsid=1163.

Well, is this a reach or not? I really don't know. I do know that DT Dana Stubblefield's departure was a blow. Any thoughts, my fellow Gridironers?

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Apr 18^th, 2003, 4:12pm

on 04/07/03 at 00:27:48, DirkDiggler wrote:

WOW...check this article out. It looks more and more like Barlow will be the featured back. Hearst could be a 2.2. million dollar backup or more likely, be released after June 1st. This theory is increased in speculation by the number of rookie running backs the 49ers are bringing in.

http://www.pressdemo.com/49ers/news/18niners_c11.html

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Apr 18^th, 2003, 9:50pm

on 04/18/03 at 16:12:36, DirkDiggler wrote:

Don't forget they still have Paul Smith on the bench... another RB they have some hope for. Despite what coachspeak is floating around, I'd be surprised if Hearst is on their opening day roster.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report: Farr... in!
Post by BarnabyWilde on Apr 18^th, 2003, 11:25pm

Fresh off the Ral Feed, here is a look at the Niners draft preview.

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN2550346.htm

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on Apr 27^th, 2003, 9:09pm

The 9ers draft was ho-hum. Drafted an OT to replace Fiore and a DT and DE to help the line (which wasn't that great considering it had Stubblefield, Bryant Young, and Andre Carter), and some WR. Stubbs has been cut so we'll see if this is an improvement or not. Hopefully for my team it'll pay off this year.

The only fantasy player of note, who probably won't make the team, is Ken Dorsey. They grabbed him in the 7th but he'll be sitting behind Garcia, McNown, Rattay, and god knows who else.

NFLEurope, anyone? Sure, we'd all have loved to see them get a #2 to complement Owens, but they drafted what they needed, linemen. The only position they didn't address was DB, but after drafting Rumpf last year you can't blame them for not going after another.

I don't see anything to indicate the 9ers would be better or worse offensively this next year, but as you all know the Hearst/Barlow thing is still unresolved.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 7^th, 2003, 9:14pm

Found a somewhat interesting article by way of "the Gridiron Newsstand" regarding the nut the 49ers have to crack this offseason, according to the writer of the piece of course. It is titled "Wild, Wild, Offseason still Ahead for 49ers"! There are issues with the piece, though, which was just published on May 6th, like, e.g., the fact that he suggests that the 49ers should make a run for Marcus Robinson, the Ravens' signing of whom is old news. I mean, for God's sake, they themselves published an article on the Robinson signing on May 2nd that is second on their "NFL Headlines" interal feed! ::) So, this is not the most responsible of journalism or presentations, but it is an interesting take from a somewhat informed "dude". Here is the link:

http://www.allsports.com/cgi-bin/showstory.cgi?story_id=41368.

Any thoughts on his "positions"? :-/ Any thoughts on this source? :-/

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 9^th, 2003, 2:10pm

on 04/03/03 at 13:33:45, StegRock wrote:

Also, from "the Gridiron Newsstand", the 49ers are showing interest in former Rams DT D'Marco Farr who has been in retirement for the last two years. [smiley=hmmmm.gif] Here is the report:

http://www.pressdemo.com/49ers/news/02niners_c3.html.

What do you think about that? Good [smiley=gotanidea.gif] or Headin' out to picket [smiley=Imwithstupid.gif] !

on 04/03/03 at 14:02:23, StegRock wrote:

Well, now, as per "the Gridiron Newsstand", we know the conclusion to this whole thing... "Farr and away," just a bunch of hype! ::) I just knew that was going to happen after the (more sensible) Kirschke signing.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 18^th, 2003, 3:41pm

Well, a lot going on with the 49ers this weekend. QB Cade McNown is gone; RB Rashaan Salaam is in... mainly because they are very thin at running back with Kevan Barlow's ailing knee (hmmmm...) and Garrison Hearst's being away due to family matters. LOTS of question marks; LOT of ?'s... Here is how it all reads in the primary sources available on "the Gridiron Newsstand" (first three on McNown only, second three on both McNown and Salaam):

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/5889465.htm;

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/5889236.htm;

http://www.sf49ers.com/newsroom/DisplayNews.asp?newsid=1204;

http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/football/sf_49ers/story/6688313p-7639938c.html;

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/news/18niners_c5empirec.html;

http://www.sf49ers.com/newsroom/DisplayNews.asp?newsid=1205.

So, what do you guys make of it all? Does Cade McNown resurface somewhere else? Does it even matter if he does? I think not! How about Salaam? I'll say this much... If people are saying Hearst might not survive Erickson's youth movement, how in the hell will Salaam? His is just a temporary contract anyway. And, finally, how about Barlow's knee? Before these reports, I chalked it up to offseason rhetoric. BUT, if we are going to get all worked up over Holmes's hip, I'd say it is about time to get bent out of shape regarding Barlow's knee, especially since Barlow's grasp on the starting position in San Fran is, well, QUITE a bit more precarious, that is assuming he is even considered their starting running back! [smiley=hmmmm.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 18^th, 2003, 9:28pm

McNown= garbage
Salaam= Pot head
Hearst= Belongs on another team
Barlow= Fantasy 03-04 Stud

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 23^rd, 2003, 3:16pm

http://espn.go.com/nfl/overview/49ers2003.html

49ers offseason overview

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on May 26^th, 2003, 5:29pm

on 05/23/03 at 15:16:04, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/overview/49ers2003.html

49ers offseason overview

Article does a good job of pointing out all the holes, but doesn't explain how the 9ers intend to fill them. Also, as with most ESPN articles, doesn't take a stance on how they will do, just what they need to do.

I'm kinda interested to see what Battle can do as a #3 WR for the 9ers. Owens/Streets/Battle seems better than Owens/Stokes/Streets. Which is really really sad. Streets is a really tempting late-round pick for me again this year. If he can lock up the #2 position, I'll hope he can fill my #5 WR spot.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Cirrinone on May 26^th, 2003, 6:26pm

What about Brandon Lloyd? Wasn't he drafted over Battle? Just curious as to where he's at... (I didn't read the article so don't shoot me down if it says it in there lol)

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on May 26^th, 2003, 9:19pm

on 05/26/03 at 18:26:28, Cirrinone wrote:

What about Brandon Lloyd? Wasn't he drafted over Battle? Just curious as to where he's at... (I didn't read the article so don't shoot me down if it says it in there lol)

Yeah he was. I just watched Battle a bit and want a guy with that cool of a name to start :P

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Daunte Williams on May 28^th, 2003, 12:01pm

-- 49ers to Sign Salaam Today -- from FFMastermind.com

The Press-Democrat reports after making a favorable impression during a three-day tryout last week, RB Rashaan Salaam will sign a contract with the 49ers today. Salaam, the 1994 Heisman Trophy winner from Colorado, agreed to terms with the 49ers on a non-guaranteed one-year, $530,000 contract, 49ers GM Terry Donahue said Tuesday. He will participate in the 49ers' three-day passing camp, which opens today at the team's Santa Clara practice facility. The 49ers have nine running backs on their roster and generally keep five or six for the regular season

This makes absolutely no sense to me. Explain please.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 28^th, 2003, 1:59pm

It's a "whatever" signing more than anything, DW! If it does indicate anything of importance, it indicates that Barlow's knee may not be doing so well. Hearst missed the last mini-camp for personal reasons; Barlow did too because of his knee; coming to think of it, I think Paul Smith did as well... rehabbin' something. Bottom line, Hearst, given his age, familiarity with the system and excellent blocking skills, doesn't need the team workouts as much as the others, but they, Barlow most conspicuously, are absent. They need a warm body in there. Salaam will still have a difficult time making the 49ers' regular-season roster, assuming Barlow (and Smith) is (are) healthy enough to go. Again, if you want to give some meaning to this move, I would look more in the direction of Barlow, i.e. investigate what's up with that knee. [smiley=onit.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on May 28^th, 2003, 4:07pm

on 05/28/03 at 13:59:29, StegRock wrote:

AS a Barlow fantasy owner, I have no concerns. I just think they need the body for practice. Barlows knee will be fine. It is precautionary they are holding him out.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on May 28^th, 2003, 10:25pm

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0528/1560252.html

All-Pro receiver Terrell Owens will skip the San Francisco 49ers' voluntary passing camp this week for undisclosed personal reasons.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by PA Outlaws on May 28^th, 2003, 10:27pm

on 05/28/03 at 22:25:01, Keyshawn Johnson 76yards wrote:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2003/0528/1560252.html

All-Pro receiver Terrell Owens will skip the San Francisco 49ers' voluntary passing camp this week for undisclosed personal reasons.

Is he still on his acting hiatus? [smiley=greedy.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Keyshawn Johnson 76yards on Jun 4^th, 2003, 3:41pm

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/sports/6009899.htm

Terrell Owen's on the Jim Rome show.

Answers questions regarding contract, Jeff Garcia, etc.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 20^th, 2003, 6:29pm

on 06/20/03 at 17:39:02, Razzak wrote:

You can't make demands if you don't have something the other guy needs. In this case, the Titans no longer "need" Eddie. He's gotta re-convince them of that this year if he wants the every-down role.

This from the Titans thread does beg the question, Razz... Do the 49ers still "need" Garrison? [smiley=hmmmm.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jun 20^th, 2003, 6:41pm

I don't think the Niners need Hearst as much as the Titans need George.

on 06/20/03 at 18:29:31, StegRock wrote:

This from the Titans thread does beg the question, Razz... Do the 49ers still "need" Garrison? [smiley=hmmmm.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on Jun 21^st, 2003, 3:36am

on 06/20/03 at 18:29:31, StegRock wrote:

This from the Titans thread does beg the question, Razz... Do the 49ers still "need" Garrison? [smiley=hmmmm.gif]

Need - nope, that's why I made the comparison. The Titans didn't need George either, there's a plethora of talented runningbacks out there right now.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 21^st, 2003, 3:53pm

on 06/21/03 at 03:36:23, Razzak wrote:

Need - nope, that's why I made the comparison. The Titans didn't need George either, there's a plethora of talented runningbacks out there right now.

Well, that then begs the question... Who do you think is going to be the primary rock-toter in San Fran this season?

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DOLFAN on Jun 21^st, 2003, 4:02pm

I think Barlow wins the Job. This is yr 3 for him and they need to see if he has the stuff. I think Hearst will have 1 more yr there as the backup, i think they will switch stats from last yr.
Barlow will be the guy baring injury.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 21^st, 2003, 9:28pm

I have to admit I agree with DolFan. I too think Barlow will be the man. As I have stated in previous posts, my reasons are:

No one left in San Fran really has any loyalty to Hearst anymore. They all went to Detroit.

Barlow is younger and the future. Hearst is old and at the end of his career.

Erickson has a history of going with younger backs. (see Seattle)

Erickson has to look toward HIS future with a younger back. All about future job security.

Barlow has a better yards per carrry. He needs a chance he can be the man.

NOW, with all this being said,. from a FANTASY perspective I sure as hell would want Hearst on my FANTASY bench.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 21^st, 2003, 10:22pm

on 06/21/03 at 21:28:04, DirkDiggler wrote:

NOW, with all this being said,. from a FANTASY perspective I sure as hell would want Hearst on my FANTASY bench.

;)

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 21^st, 2003, 11:12pm

on 06/21/03 at 21:28:04, DirkDiggler wrote:

NOW, with all this being said,. from a FANTASY perspective I sure as hell would want Hearst on my FANTASY bench.

Not sure I get this - and I know I look like an idiot for asking.

Are you being sarcastic?
Or are you saying that you want him on your team (not as a starter, but as a bench guy who just may prove the cynics wrong)?

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 22^nd, 2003, 8:18am

on 06/21/03 at 23:12:28, bgsgfan wrote:

I am saying, Hearst would be one of those guys who I would want to keep on my bench JUST IN CASE., (I am a Barlow owner) Even in leagues where I did not have Barlow, I plan on drafting Hearst to sit on the bench until Barlow gets hurt or Barlow does not pan out. He will be one of those sleeper guys who is nice to have there JUST IN CASE.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 22^nd, 2003, 8:22am

on 06/21/03 at 23:12:28, bgsgfan wrote:

You don't look like an idiot. I did not explain myself very well.

I do believe Barlow will be the guy. BUT....

I am saying, Hearst would be one of those guys who I would want to keep on my bench JUST IN CASE., (I am a Barlow owner) Even in leagues where I did not have Barlow, I plan on drafting Hearst to sit on the bench until Barlow gets hurt or Barlow does not pan out. He will be one of those sleeper guys who is nice to have there JUST IN CASE. He may never play all year, but still nice to have.

I kind of equate it to having James Stewart on the bench a few years ago when he backed up Fred Taylor. You just had a hunch he would get to play sometime. Or guys who will draft Holcomb(e) (both Kelly and Robert will work for my analogy) this year. You know eventually he will get some playing time. You don't know why he will get time, but he will. You draft 'em late because you think they may play sometime. Cheap insurance packages or a diamond in the rough.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 22^nd, 2003, 4:46pm

Of course, there is the little, sticky fact that Hearst is still listed as the starter ahead of Barlow at MOST sites out there, five of the six I checked out: NFL.com, FantasyInsights.com, ProFantasySports.com, FFToday.com, RotoTimes.com and FFMastermind.com. [smiley=whatever.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on Jun 22^nd, 2003, 5:51pm

If you don't take your first reserve back early and get one of the lesser starters (James Stewart, for example), Hearst and Barlow should be your targets. I think in drafts they'll either go in the same around (maybe Barlow a round earlier) or people will draft Barlow and Hearst will go very late--and be a great steal.

Barlow has had health problems the last two years, so you might get 2 or so full games out of Hearst.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 15^th, 2003, 11:43pm

What do you guys make of this quote out of Fanball.com (available via "the Gridiron Newsstand" [smiley=awwgee.gif] )? ...

We hated it last year, and we're going to loathe it again this season. Ladies and gentleman, meet the 49ers' running backs! There was speculation prior to April's draft that Garrison Hearst would not make it past the June 1 cuts, but he's still with the team and presumably will be the main back again.

However, hot on Hearst's coattails is the younger, more exciting Kevan Barlow. Erickson said that Barlow needs to be on the field more this season (we could have told you that two years ago), but there's nothing to suggest that Barlow will receive any more than 50 percent of the carries.

Further throwing confusion into the situation is the fact that Barlow is entering the last year of his contract while Hearst is signed through 2007. If the 49ers' unwisely decide that Barlow isn't their back of the future, would they let him split carries with Hearst? Then again, the 49ers might want to see what Barlow can do if asked to carry a full load. Inquiring fantasy owners need to know, Dennis.

...

We'll obviously be watching the running back battle. As of now, fantasy owners need to plan on grabbing Barlow if they pick Hearst - and vice versa. We never want to wish injury on anyone, so we'll simply note that both Barlow and Hearst would have serious fantasy value were the other not around to steal playing time.

Concerns about Barlow's work-ethic and attitude as well as about his ailing knee have arisen this offseason. Has the proverbial "edge" gone back to Hearst?

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DOLFAN on Jul 16^th, 2003, 12:05am

Same ole...Same ole. They both cancel each other out. Stegey looks liek you were right. It almost likes though as if the last paragraph is a quote also, but that what you have read. Only time will tell. They are not tipping there hand either way though. I think they will give Barlow a chance, but may not end up being the fulltime guy. Who knows?
[smiley=scared.gif]I traded Hearst and Tim Brown this offseason to dump some age and some ? marks on my team. I went with younger guys with "same ole" ? marks though... Peterson, Josh Reed, Pinkston, and Lamar Gordon[smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 23^rd, 2003, 12:40pm

Well, I paused before making a post regarding Garcia's injured back. I actually decided not to last night. I wanted to see everything that would come out today. I'm glad I did, a little more clarity on the issue today than yesterday. Here is the read on "The REAL Feed":

49ers QB Garcia may miss start of camp
NFL.com (23.07.2003 10:10)
San Francisco quarterback Jeff Garcia might not be ready for the start of training camp after injuring his back during an offseason workout.

And, here is ALL the local talk from "the Gridiron Newsstand":

Most informative/coach-speak -
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/6356516.htm;

Positive spin/player-speak and agent-speak -
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2003/07/23/SP289771.DTL;

Includes 49ers notes -
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/6356577.htm;

Also regards injuries to 49ers players in general -
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/football/sf_49ers/story/7080187p-8028080c.html;

Also regards Owens's contract sitch -
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/news/22niners_c3empirec.html.

My only comment on this is that I REALLY like Tim Rittay if/when he is handed the reigns in San Fran. I know we haven't seen a lot of him, but of what I have seen, I have been impressed, and the news coming out of the 49ers organization seems to indicate that they like him a lot, too. He turned earlier-round draft pick that same year, QB Giovanni Carmazzi, into a VERY distant memory.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 4^th, 2003, 9:35pm

Well, it looks like Garcia's back is just fine. Here's the latest from a source conveniently made available to you by way of "the Gridiron Newsstand":

GARCIA'S BACK: Discussion has shifted from Garcia's back to Garcia is back, as in ready to go.

The bulging disk Garcia sustained a week before training camp is no longer an issue. "He's normal," coach Dennis Erickson said. "We cut him back early, but now he is normal and getting his regular reps, and he needs it to stay sharp."

Along with monitoring the starting quarterback's arm, the team is also keeping tabs on his back. "He does a lot of exercise, and he knows what he needs to do," Erickson said.

Garcia estimates that he's taking about 40 percent of the plays in practice,

which should increase to 90 percent when it gets close to the regular season.

Here's a link to the whole piece, which is actually a "49ers Notebook" containing various information:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/08/03/SP200584.DTL.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DOLFAN on Aug 4^th, 2003, 11:37pm

I read that he was fine too and never really worried about him. FFL writers i think downgraded him too quickly and think he will have a very good year. He is still the #5 QB on my list.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 6^th, 2003, 10:04pm

Garcia's back is, well, back! He, again, is being held out of practices and will miss their preseason opener Saturday night. Also, T. O. is havin' some minor groin problems. Here is ALL the LATEST from "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.covers.com/ap/article.aspx?articleID=135738&league=NFL;

http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/6469294.htm;

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/news/06ninotes_c5empirec.html.

Anyone think that this back problem of Garcia's is something to watch out for? I kind of think it is and think that Tim Rattay is a nice little late-round pick-up.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 14^th, 2003, 4:06am

Regarding Garcia's back, well, we are starting to hear things like "degenerative" [smiley=ohshit.gif] and "may not be ready by Week 1" :o ! Meanwhile, Tim Rattay is seizing his opportunity and has been impressing. Here it ALL is as per "the Gridiron Newsstand":

(the most comprehensive piece about Garcia's injury and the one in which the word "degenerative" comes up)
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/6521614.htm;

(focuses on the uncertainty of the timetable of Garcia's return)
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/6513829.htm;

(more no-so-good Garcia news)
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/football/sf_49ers/story/7215891p-8161382c.html;

(spotlight on Rattay and he is impressing)
http://examiner.com/sports/default.jsp?story=081203sp_niners;

(regarding the perceived high-quality depth at QB San Fran has, mainly #2 man Rattay)
http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~10848~1563868,00.html.

[smiley=threed.gif] My honest-to-goodness take,... I love what Rattay brings to the table. If he gets a chance, they might find it hard gettin' him off the field. Garcia is no spring [smiley=chicken.gif] and Rattay represents the longer-term future,... one that may just begin earlier than we all expected!

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Now, here's some big news on the other side of the ball. No corroborating reports from the local sources yet, but here is how it currently reads atop "The REAL Feed":

DT Young to remove bone spur
NFL.com (14.08.2003 00:36)
San Francisco's DT Bryant Young will miss the team's next two weeks of training camp after he has surgery to remove a bone spur from his left ankle.

This is obviously not a good development, but are there any thoughts on how this affects any fantasy value the 49ers' D might have had? [smiley=whatever.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 14^th, 2003, 9:13am

on 08/14/03 at 04:06:04, StegRock wrote:

DT Young to remove bone spur
NFL.com (14.08.2003 00:36)
San Francisco's DT Bryant Young will miss the team's next two weeks of training camp after he has surgery to remove a bone spur from his left ankle.

This is obviously not a good development, but are there any thoughts on how this affects any fantasy value the 49ers' D might have had? [smiley=whatever.gif]

On my cheatsheets, this will drop the Niner D from the bottom 6 to the bottom 5. I don't think the Niner D had much value to begin with.

[smiley=alcoholic.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on Aug 14^th, 2003, 3:34pm

on 08/14/03 at 09:13:34, Philly wrote:

On my cheatsheets, this will drop the Niner D from the bottom 6 to the bottom 5. I don't think the Niner D had much value to begin with.

[smiley=alcoholic.gif]

9er's really need a 3rd corner, because Rumpf just ain't doing it. My friend who scouts the 9ers regularly said this, which is just brutal:

"Every time I talk to the coaches they tell me how Rumpf is really improving and a much better corner than he showed last year. Every time I look up he's chasing down another receiver with the ball."

You all know I'm a USC fan, and I'm happy to see the 9ers picked up Antuan Simmons that the Chargers just cut. He was a shut down corner at USC but obviously didn't show the chargers anything in practice. I'd like to see what he can do because he obviously can't be much worse than our current nickelback. That said, I do like physical corners more than coverage ones and aside from Rumpf the 9ers have no physical corners.

As Philly said, I wouldn't consider the 9ers D until at least the top 15-20 are gone.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 14^th, 2003, 4:48pm

How's 'bout this neat little nugget from a somewhat "off the beat and track" source on "The REAL Feed"? ...

Even if Garcia's Back Isn't Bad, It's Bad
Eclecticity: Dan Shafer's Blog Universe (14.08.2003 14:20)
Tonight the Oakland Raiders and the San Francisco 49ers meet up in a more-than-meaningless pre-season NFL contest. Not much will be learned by the Niners because their starting QB, Jeff Garcia, is sidelined for the second straight exhibition game with a bulging disk in his back. The team and Jeff keep saying this is no big deal, that he'll recover fine. That's not what my research shows. Bulging disks are serious... ...

It's worth clicking the link on "The REAL Feed" and reading the whole "post". The guy presents the medical side of things in very simple, concise, precise and cogent terms and I think he is probably accurate in his assessment and concern. [smiley=bullseye.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 14^th, 2003, 8:39pm

Well, now we at least know Barlow still can't block worth a shit! ::)

And, do NOT mistake the fact, according to his sideline interview, that Jeff Garcia doesn't have a clue as to what is wrong with his back even though he feels "fine" AND that his doctors can't really pinpoint exactly what the problem is as being good news. That's just sugar-coating! He's got a back problem that will linger through the whole '03 season. The question is... will he miss games? And, actually, the real question at this point may be... how many games will he miss? [smiley=yes.gif]

And, now, what Razz points out in his post above makes Ahmed Plummer's getting carted off even more so NOT good news! [smiley=no.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 14^th, 2003, 9:36pm

Lots of question marks surrounding the 49ers right now and they are all bein' exposed here during this game tonight...

OL Scott Gragg goes out with an ankle sprain, not good news for an already thin, ailing offensive line.

And, what's up with switching backup quarterbacks Dorsey and Doman in and out of the game, no less all in the first half? Dorsey was in, looked decent. Then, Doman comes in in a "touchdown" situation, so to speak, and stands at 1-for-1 for however many few yards and a touchdown; now Dorsey is back in. [smiley=lost.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DOLFAN on Aug 14^th, 2003, 11:55pm

Like Stegy said. Maybe Garcia will not make it through this year. I think the 49ers need to take a long look at the young Qbs. They may be forced to keep 4 QBs this year. What does this do to Owens? Rattay could end up being the filler guy and could be the long term guy. Who knows.
There DEF still has serious issues too.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by bgsgfan on Aug 24^th, 2003, 10:07am

Eric Johnson breaks collarbone - no prognosis yet (http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/gen/wire?messageId=21787882):

Quote:

Eric Johnson, the 49ers' starting tight end, broke his collarbone in the first quarter of San Francisco's exhibition game against New Orleans on Saturday.

Johnson was hurt on the first play from scrimmage. After catching a 1-yard pass from Jeff Garcia, he was tackled by cornerback Dale Carter, who appeared to lead into the aggressive hit with his helmet.

Johnson started 25 games and caught 76 passes in his first two years with the 49ers, ascending from an unheralded seventh-round draft pick to a valuable pass-catcher and blocker in the West Coast offense.

He had 36 catches for 321 yards last season despite missing four games with a back injury.

Jed Weaver, signed away from Miami as a free agent in the offseason, took Johnson's place.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 25^th, 2003, 4:21pm

Rashaan Salaam was released by the 49ers today. I'd provide a link, but doubt that anyone would really care to read anything about it, so I won't. Hopefully this will be the last time we hear that name.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on Aug 26^th, 2003, 3:28am

on 08/25/03 at 16:21:31, Philly wrote:

They also released Weary, a DB who was signed to provide help in the secondary with the injuries to Plummer and Webster. Frost was also cut, a safety.

Erickson said Salaam was cut because of a "numbers" thing, implying that he only cut Salaam because they had 2 solid backs and 3 solid backups that already knew the system.

Maybe the Bears pick him up if they can't get Staley.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 27^th, 2003, 1:47pm

Garcia misses more practice. Here is the LOCAL report STRAIGHT off "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.pressdemocrat.com/49ers/news/27niners.html.

Wonder how many games Garcia will end up missing this season? I honestly do not think he will make it through the wear-and-tear of the regular season regiment. I don't think he'll make it deep into the season, period! [smiley=ohshit.gif] [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 27^th, 2003, 2:20pm

on 08/27/03 at 13:47:42, StegRock wrote:

I've avoided him in every draft I've had so far... he scares me. Back injuries don't just heal or go away.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 27^th, 2003, 2:40pm

Well.... I wish Dennis Ericson could be more evasive and non-commital as to who is going to be the starting running back. No decision has been made yet and he refuses to answer the question.

And then I ask myself...."does it really matter?" It appears that they are going to CONTINUE to split carries equally. How frustrating!

I am biased, as a Barlow owner, but I think he deserves a shot to prove what he can do on a full time bases. Oh well.....

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by mattman on Aug 28^th, 2003, 3:27am

This situation with Garcia really sucks, the backup situation in SFO, Tim Rattay
can't say much is going to happen there...

Back problems linger, they take an age to heal, you can't just forget about
a bulging disc !!

All in all this does not bode well for the rest of the 49er's offense this year...
Good news for the division opponents though.... 8)

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 28^th, 2003, 2:09pm

on 08/28/03 at 03:27:07, mattman wrote:

This situation with Garcia really sucks, the backup situation in SFO, Tim Rattay
can't say much is going to happen there...

Don't "discount" Tim Rattay, in your fantasy drafts or otherwise! This guy can play QB, fellas! If he were to somehow inherit the reigns this year full-time, he would be yet another San Francisco "diamond in the rough", "out of nowhere" quarterback. This guy may not be unreal, but he is for real!

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 28^th, 2003, 8:51pm

on 08/28/03 at 14:09:23, StegRock wrote:

From what I've seen, I think Brandon Doman is the best QB on the team right now. Ken Dorsey has been fairly successful in the preseason, but I have to admit, he throws the weakest looking outs I have seen since the days I was QBing in pick-up games.

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 2:46pm

For what it's worth, Hearst named the starter, for now...nothing we didn't already know.

Off the REAL FEED:

http://www.oaklandtribune.com/Stories/0,1413,82~10848~1607632,00.html

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 3:07pm

on 08/28/03 at 20:51:55, Philly wrote:

I guess I shouldn't apply for the job as scout... Doman was cut and they kept Dorsey and Rattay as backups. I haven't been impressed with Rattay, but he will get his chance this year (maybe soon) because Garcia will not last...

Title: Re: 49ers Offseason Report
Post by Razzak on Sep 3^rd, 2003, 3:21pm

on 09/03/03 at 15:07:04, Philly wrote:

From the 49ers perspective, I believe this is how they were thinking:

Rattay: Best backup and is the most familiar with the system. If Garcia goes down he's our guy. If Garcia gets old, he's our future. He's the only guy who got to compete with/against the 1st teamers.

Dorsey: Possibly career backup material, or maybe a starter with a team like the 2k Ravens. Makes good decisions and seems to play smarter late in the game. Has the history of winning at Miami.

Doman: Looked about as good as Dorsey in preseason, but has no pedigree and Dorsey & Doman competing vs. 3rd stringers doesn't give much insight.

I thought Doman and Dorsey looked about the same and so the 9ers went with the guy who had a championship and a whole lotta games under his belt. I think you're right in that he did slightly outperform Dorsey in preseason, but I didn't think Dorsey's arm looked that weak. It was a lot stronger than I suspected it to be. Although they both outperformed Rattay, Rattay was playing with the first string while they got to pick apart backups, so I'm not sure that counts.

I've liked all the 9ers personnel decisions lately. Unfortunately, with the defensive injuries they just don't have it this year. At least I'll get to see a friend play back in their secondary, I just hope he doesn't get lit up like he did in the preseason games.