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(Message started by: Cirrinone on May 29^th, 2003, 8:03pm)

Title: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by Cirrinone on May 29^th, 2003, 8:03pm

I just traded up initially to get Ashley Lelie at 9.01 in a 16-team keeper league, but I've heard a lot concerning both Tai Streets (who would be my #2 option at this point) and Ashley Lelie. I personally like Lelie better in the long run, but will Streets' #'s this year be SO much better than Lelie's that I should go Streets, and hope maybe Lelie drops to me at 10.2? Javon Walker is my #3 option... Please tell me who you'd take between Streets and Lelie, maybe some projections Steg (I know you love those :)) and where Walker fits in...

For the record you must start

2 QB- Hasselback and Pennington
2 RB- W. Green and T. Hambrick
2 WR- D. Boston and L. Coles
2 TE- Crumpler (1 needed)
3 FLEX- A. Peterson (although he won't be a flex starter week 1 unless he has the starting job)
2 DEF-
1 K-

DEF is also an option as well. TB, MIA, N.E., PHI, CAR, have been taken for D's so far. Baltimore is still a viable option I guess... I kind of want a WR right now though and Lelie was the instinct :-\ whatcha think guys?

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by Cirrinone on May 29^th, 2003, 8:13pm

Oh, and if you want to help me a bit more... would you place any of these WR's above Lelie/Streets/Walker?

pinkston, bryant, tim brown, bradford, hilliard, finneran, t.glenn, dyson?

Was thinking Pinkston, Hilliard (back), Finneran (with Price stealing attention now), Glenn (back with the Tuna)...

Also...

I have 9.01 (right now), 10.2, 11.12, 12.05 as my next 4 picks. ...

Thanks for your help.

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by BarnabyWilde on May 29^th, 2003, 8:17pm

Hmmm...Streets is the number #2 in SF, Lelie the soon to be #2, maybe the #1 in a few years in Denver. Tough choice, but I think I'd lead towards Lelie. If either SMith or McCaffrey get hurt (could happen) he steps in and puts up solid numbers. Streets could have a 800-8td year, but Leile could surpass that, I think... [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by StegRock on May 29^th, 2003, 9:35pm

That really is a close call! This really depends on how deep of a keeper league this is. If it is a 2-to-5-or-so keeper league, I would put them in this order: Streets, Walker, Lelie. If it is a deep 10+-player keeper league, I would go with: Lelie, Walker, Streets. As for giving you projections, Cirrinone, I really can't for Lelie. He just is NOT in a "position" to allow me or anyone to do so. If Smith and McCaffery stay healthy this year, his numbers will be marginal; if McCaffery goes down, he perhaps hovers around a 1,000-yard pace; if Smith goes down, he might just explode onto the scene BIG-TIME. [smiley=whatever.gif] I see both Streets and Walker, who I think will win the #2 job in Green Bay over Ferguson, going for about 800 to 1,050 yards and 6 to 9 touchdowns, with the edge going to Streets this year as he has better upswing because he really has absolutely no competition for the #2 gig in San Fran and he is in a make-or-break contract year. In the long-run, though, I probably like Walker more. Anyway, I don't think I've helped. :-[ Rather, I think I have just confirmed the tough call you have to make! :-[ I can say this, though. All three of them I would put ahead of any of the other guys you mention! In any event, good luck! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by Philly on May 30^th, 2003, 2:27pm

I'd go ahead and take Streets. He is a solid #2 now and has a proven gunslinger throwing to him.

Lelie is still a #3 and Plummer's success remains to be seen...

Walker is more interesting to me than Lelie too. Favre is still solid and Walker should be the #2 by the time the season rolls around.

Sleeper pick, not now, but maybe in the 12th or later... Jax defense. Should be very good this year. Del Rio will improve them immediately.

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by Cirrinone on May 30^th, 2003, 2:52pm

I was thinking the same thing actually. Problem is, there's like, no sleepers in this league. Everyone knows everyone, there are VERY good members.

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by Cirrinone on May 30^th, 2003, 2:53pm

Oh, and by the way... I took Streets. I'm hoping Lelie or Walker slip down to 10.2, that'd be great for me. Then I'd snag Jax at 11.2 and hopefully Calico or Bryant Johnson at 12.05... if best available. Any thoughts?

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by DOLFAN on May 30^th, 2003, 4:40pm

I too agree with Stegey on everything. Streets has it all on his side to produce the best stats. I put Walker next, but have Pinkston...for THIS year ahead of Lelie , barring injury to Mac or SMith. Pinkston has turned into the #1 in Philly. 60-798-7, he can only improvewith Mcnabb being back. Thrash is done after this year in PHI IMO, and Pinkston started to shine at years end and is finally starting to grasp the system.

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by Razzak on May 30^th, 2003, 7:02pm

on 05/30/03 at 14:53:31, Cirrinone wrote:

You've gotta take Streets and Walker over Lelie. We haven't seen a thing from Lelie yet, and you gotta have more faith in Garcia/Favre than Plummer. Lelie is *not* Boston.

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by StegRock on May 31^st, 2003, 6:34pm

Jon, I have a question. Has Reggie Wayne been taken yet? If so, where? If not, when do you think he will go? Just curious! [smiley=awwgee.gif]

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by Cirrinone on May 31^st, 2003, 6:37pm

Yeah, Reggie Wayne was taken at 8.03 (I took Streets at 9.01), BUT, don't expect him to go that early in every draft. He was taken by an optimistic Colts' fan who feels he can be a huge sleeper. I also feel this way, but I wasn't about to take him in the 8th. This guy had 3 8ths, 2 9ths, and 2 10ths by trades, and wanted to be sure he had Wayne I guess. Expect a big year... but not that big. Hopefully Streets does me better. And at pick 9.07 right now, I have 8 more picks to wait, and Lelie and Walker are both still available! Let's hope it stays that way! :-D

Title: Re: Lelie vs. Streets
Post by StegRock on May 31^st, 2003, 6:50pm

Interesting! I asked because in the GBRFL I opted to trade Wayne and keep Streets (as my last keeper, at least as things stand right now). I felt then, as I still do now, that it was a close call. But, I am happy with the decision I made. I think Streets for various reasons will have the slightly better year of the two.