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(Message started by: Sepphoris on Jun 25th, 2003, 5:56pm)
Title: My Top 100 Using VBD
Post by Sepphoris on Jun 25th, 2003, 5:56pm
Now please take into account that these are based upon my scoring system. The link is provided.
http://pub.fantasysports.com/leagues/football/ogatta/pontassn.htm (http://pub.fantasysports.com/leagues/football/ogatta/pontassn.htm)



Player      Team      Pos      Value
1 L. Tomlinson      SD      RB      251
2 M. Faulk      STL      RB      222
3 R. Williams      MIA      RB      212
4 C. Portis      DEN      RB      205
5 S. Alexander      SEA      RB      204
6 P. Holmes      KC      RB      194
7 T. Henry      BUF      RB      176
8 C. Dillon      CIN      RB      171
9 D. McAllister      NO      RB      163
10 M. Harrison      IND      WR      155
11 T. Barber      NYG      RB      147
12 R. Moss      MIN      WR      147
13 F. Taylor      JAC      RB      141
14 T. Owens      SF      WR      138
15 A. Green      GB      RB      136
16 E. James      IND      RB      122
17 E. Moulds      BUF      WR      119
18 C. Garner      OAK      RB      113
19 W. Green      CLE      RB      111
20 E. George      TEN      RB      110
21 J. Lewis      BAL      RB      93
22 J. Horn      NO      WR      92
23 M. Vick      ATL      QB      88
24 D. Staley      PHI      RB      86
25 D. Culpepper      MIN      QB      84
26 P. Burress      PIT      WR      81
27 T. Holt      STL      WR      80
28 A. Toomer      NYG      WR      73
29 L. Coles      WAS      WR      73
30 A. Thomas      CHI      RB      71
31 D. Mason      TEN      WR      71
32 J. Smith      JAC      WR      70
33 M. Booker      CHI      WR      70
34 P. Price      ATL      WR      69
35 T. Brown      NE      WR      69
36 D. McNabb      PHI      QB      67
37 K. Robinson      SEA      WR      67
38 P. Manning      IND      QB      65
39 D. Driver      GB      WR      65
40 H. Ward      PIT      WR      64
41 D. Boston      SD      WR      63
42 S. Davis      CAR      RB      62
43 C. Johnson      CIN      WR      60
44 R. Gannon      OAK      QB      54
45 R. Gardner      WAS      WR      53
46 M. Bennett      MIN      RB      52
47 W. Dunn      ATL      RB      50
48 I. Bruce      STL      WR      50
49 J. Rice      OAK      WR      48
50 R. Smith      DEN      WR      48
51 K. Barlow      SF      RB      47
52 T. Streets      SF      WR      44
53 J. Garcia      SF      QB      43
54 K. Johnson      TB      WR      42
55 Q. Morgan      CLE      WR      42
56 K. Faulk      NE      RB      40
57 T. Pinkston      PHI      WR      40
58 C. Conway      NYJ      WR      39
59 J. Porter      OAK      WR      37
60 D. Jackson      SEA      WR      35
61 S. McNair      TEN      QB      33
62 C. Martin      NYJ      RB      33
63 T. Taylor      BAL      WR      32
64 K. Warner      STL      QB      29
65 T. Maddox      PIT      QB      25
66 D. Stallworth      NO      WR      25
67 C. Rogers      DET      WR      23
68 J. Thrash      PHI      WR      19
69 A. Brooks      NO      QB      18
70 T. Hambrick      DAL      RB      18
71 R. Wayne      IND      WR      17
72 T. Green      KC      QB      16
73 B. Finneran      ATL      WR      14
74 M. Muhammad      CAR      WR      11
75 J. Morton      KC      WR      10
76 D. Bledsoe      BUF      QB      8
77 K. Collins      NYG      QB      7
78 C. Bradford      HOU      WR      6
79 D. Terrell      CHI      WR      6
80 J. Reed      BUF      WR      6
81 C. Chambers      MIA      WR      4
82 J. Stewart      DET      RB      2
83 J. Galloway      DAL      WR      2
84 T. Glenn      DAL      WR      1
85 M. Hasselbeck      SEA      QB      0
86 A. Zereoue      PIT      RB      0
87 B. Johnson      ARZ      WR      0
88  A. Lelie      DEN      WR      0
89 A. Smith      NE      RB      -2
90 S. Mack      HOU      RB      -2
91 S. Moss      NYJ      WR      -4
92 B. Gilmore      ARZ      WR      -5
93 D. Bates      MIN      WR      -5
94 T. Brown      OAK      WR      -5
95 T. Brady      NE      QB      -6
96 S. Smith      CAR      WR      -7
97 J. Bettis      PIT      RB      -8
98 B. Favre      GB      QB      -10
99 K. Stewart      CHI      QB      -12
100 K. Holcomb      CLE      QB      -13
Title: Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
Post by Sepphoris on Jun 25th, 2003, 8:54pm
I'm surprised there hasn't been any comments. I can take negative criticism.  [smiley=howtoput.gif]
Title: Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
Post by Walker Boh on Jun 25th, 2003, 9:13pm
Your scoring system is very complex... is this something you came up with yourself?  [smiley=stars.gif]

It would be a lot easier to rate/judge your rankings if I understood how the scoring works! I'm sure it becomes second nature after playing in the league for a season or two, but being an outsider just passing through, it's a bit much to digest.
Title: Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 25th, 2003, 9:17pm

on 06/25/03 at 20:54:59, Sepphoris wrote:
I'm surprised there hasn't been any comments. I can take negative criticism.  [smiley=howtoput.gif]


Just to be sure:

1. How many teams? (looks like 14)
2. How many starters per position?(1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR)
3. What baseline you used? (last starter, last player picked at each position, 150% of starts - which is normally what I use)? (last starter)

I like using 150% of baseline, just because it tends so give some value to the bench - it also seems to give the QBs a little more value.

Have you used AVT, or any tool similar to that, to make sure your projections are reasonable?  Basically just take previous years historical averages and compare them to yours to see if your numbers are reasonable - I may play with that some here later.

As for rankings within the positions:

I am surprised you have Tomlinson that far ahead of everyone else - I see the top 3 as being pretty close (my top 3 is actually Portis, LT, and RW though).

I have mcNabb as my #1QB, but the top 3 can go any way IMO.

I think Laveraneus (sp?) Coles may be a bit high.  I worry about the fact that there are 2 #1s there in Washington and I believe Spurrier has too much of a tendency to spread the ball around for either of them to be a stud.

You really don't like Hines Ward do you?
Title: Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 25th, 2003, 9:21pm

on 06/25/03 at 21:17:32, bgsgfan wrote:
Have you used AVT, or any tool similar to that, to make sure your projections are reasonable?  Basically just take previous years historical averages and compare them to yours to see if your numbers are reasonable - I may play with that some here later.


I can't do anything with your scoring because of the bonus points.  :(  Did your projections include all those bonuses?  If not I can give you something to work off of.
Title: Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2003, 10:44pm
This is all based on projected stats for '03, right?
Title: Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
Post by Sepphoris on Jun 26th, 2003, 1:48am

on 06/25/03 at 22:44:42, StegRock wrote:
This is all based on projected stats for '03, right?


yes sir



bgs yes the bonus pts are configured in my projections.
I used the last two years of stats and FBG's projections on guys that switched teams. ( Price, Conway, ETC )
I'm not to sure what you mean about the 100% or 150% thing. What I didwas took my line-ups and found the last starter and subtracted that from the rest in that position. I hope I did this right.
Title: Re: My Top 100 Using VBD
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 26th, 2003, 8:08am

on 06/26/03 at 01:48:08, Sepphoris wrote:
I'm not to sure what you mean about the 100% or 150% thing. What I didwas took my line-ups and found the last starter and subtracted that from the rest in that position. I hope I did this right.


There is no right or wrong way.  What you used was a "last starter" baseline.  If you would have subtracted the 21st QB, 42nd RB, and 63rd WR from each player then it would have been a 150% of starters baseline.  The other popular baseline to use is the "last player drafted" and with that one you subtract the value of the last player you think will be drafted at each position.

What I did last year was I mocked at Antsports using each of the different baselines until I decided that the 150% baseline worked best for me.


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