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(Message started by: DC_Disaster on Oct 15^th, 2003, 4:56am)

Title: Would you make this trade?
Post by DC_Disaster on Oct 15^th, 2003, 4:56am

Would you make this trade?
I give Davis, Harrison and Minesots D
for
Holmes, Lilee and Miami D ?.?.?

Title: Re: Would you make this trade?
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 15^th, 2003, 5:42am

It depends on your scoring system. If your scoring system doesn't overemphasize a position (RB or WR) my thoughts are as follow:

Defenses: Wash. I personally don't get too hung up on defenses unless they're at the very high end (TB) or rock bottom. In this case, they are too closes and one could outperform the other based purely on their weekly match up.

RB's: Holmes is clearly the better back. BUT, Davis is also a solid starter that has been a consistent weekly fantasy contributor in most scoring systems.

WR's: Harrison is clearly the better WR. Lelie has a lot of up side but he's young and won't be as consistent as Harrison. Harrison is also more likely to have "monster" games.

Looking at it another way, depending on your scoring system, Holmes (because of his receiving yards) should slightly outproduce Harrison. Davis will out produce Lelie and the defenses will wash.

I would try to trade a lesser RB than Davis or get a better WR instead of Lelie.

Title: Re: Would you make this trade?
Post by Noey21 on Oct 15^th, 2003, 11:45am

I wouldn't do the trade because Harrison is top 2 wr and S. Davis is very solid and main factor of the Panthers success.

Even though getting Holmes is enticing it is not worth it. Harrison and Davis are too solid.

To say Miami and Minnesota defense are a wash is a joke.
Look at points allowed this year and previous years. Yes Miami gives up yards but not points and no one runs on Miami. Plus they get a whole bunch of INT's sometimes td's. Lst time I checked they also get more sacks. Minnesota wins because of their offense it doesn't make their defense top notch.

Remember last season who was the Raiders last loss before the Super Bowl. Answer Miami and the Bucs blue printed exactly what Miami did. TB rushes the qb slightly better a little better main lb brroks to thomas but Miamis cover men are a little better.

Remember you can't teach speed.

Sorry, just have to defend Miami's defense.... [smiley=boxer.gif] [smiley=boxer.gif]

Title: Re: Would you make this trade?
Post by captainpurple on Oct 15^th, 2003, 11:49am

Nice job Cz. I agree. Holmes for Davis is sellable, but Harrison is too much to give up for Lelie IMO.

And I have no illusions about my Vikes D. They are still susceptible to the pass, and can't get any pressure at times. You will get 30 scored on you a couple times with them. Not with Miami.

IMO, stand pat.

GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Would you make this trade?
Post by StegRock on Oct 17^th, 2003, 3:05pm

This part of the deal is just incomprehensible...

on 10/15/03 at 11:49:18, captainpurple wrote:

Harrison is too much to give up for Lelie IMO.

...and a deal-breaker!

Do NOT do this trade!

Title: Re: Would you make this trade?
Post by DOLFAN on Oct 17^th, 2003, 3:09pm

Stegey is correct! Harrison is worth way too much. I would take Marvin off the table for starters then begin from there.