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(Message started by: goody58 on Oct 15^th, 2003, 4:28pm)

Title: Testaverde or brees ?
Post by goody58 on Oct 15^th, 2003, 4:28pm

With manning off this week I have to with:

Testaverde/houston
or
Brees/cleveland

Houstons secondary has been bad the last three weeks but were talking about old man vinny and the jets.
Brees is going against a cleveland D thats fourth in the league against the pass.
I'm leaning towards Brees because I have boston going.

What do you guys think?

Title: Re: Testaverde or brees ?
Post by captainpurple on Oct 15^th, 2003, 5:12pm

I think Brees will have a tough day against CLE, especially on the road. CLE defense is NFL top 10 against the pass and overall D as well. They are weaker vs the run, so LT would be a better start IMO.

HOU defense will still be missing Glenn, which as we saw last week, left their secondary porous at best.

Vinny is aging, but I think he'll still get it done vs HOU. Go with Vinny.

GOOD LUCK, AND GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Testaverde or brees ?
Post by Noey21 on Oct 15^th, 2003, 8:54pm

I would go with testicleverde. I feel he is a better qb with more experience and also doesn't have the running threat.

Title: Re: Testaverde or brees ?
Post by Philly on Oct 15^th, 2003, 10:22pm

Like the others said, Testaverde is your best shot. He has a weak running game and the experience to get the most out of Chrebet, Conway, Moss, and Becht. Brees will probably spend most of the day handing it off to LT.

Title: Re: Testaverde or brees ?
Post by StegRock on Oct 17^th, 2003, 3:23pm

I am going to play devil's advocate here (but sincerely so). Cleveland's pass D's being top-flight and all is a VERY deceiving statistic as has been discussed on another thread here in "the Red Zone". I think it was Philly who broke it down.

In any event, in accordance with the spirit of my latest article here in the "Fantasy Articles (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/fantasyarticles.htm)" section, I am going to get away from the numbers here in my answer. I think they are both decent plays. But, don't get too fooled by the Jets inner-division "up" performance last week. I could definitely see them "coming down"/"playing down" against Houston this week and getting stuffed and upset, if that is what it would be considered. Yea, Houston got ripped last week, but that was at the hands of the soaring Steve McNair & Co. On the other hand, Cleveland is actually not a very good home team, especially with Couch at the helm, and make no mistakes they did not win last week's game against Oakland; they just (in both senses of the word) didn't lose. I think San Diego, whose offense is ready to explode, goes into Cleveland, wips up, sending Tim back to the Couch and Kelly back into the starting lineup. Remember, too, that getting off the shnide (sp. [smiley=shrug.gif] ) is oftentimes easier away than it is at home. Less fan pressure! I would go with Brees to have big game in a big upset victory. [smiley=victory.gif]

Title: Re: Testaverde or brees ?
Post by Callie on Oct 17^th, 2003, 7:38pm

Like Captain P said, Glenn is out for Hou, and Santana is looking at what Derrick Mason was looking at last week. I just do not know about Vinnie. Hou has trouble getting to the QB, and Vinnie really needs that. But Brees has Boston back and healthy, and with something to prove.

The Cleveland run D has improved some since Jamal Lewis tore them to pieces, but I also think they expect LT will have a great day against it, so they will key on him.

I think this one will be a shoot-out. I think they will key on LT. And I agree with Steg. Upset for SD. And unexpected production for for Brees and Boston.

Guess I just do not trust Vinnie. Too bad. I really like Santana Moss.