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(Message started by: StegRock on Mar 8^th, 2004, 9:58pm)

Title: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 8^th, 2004, 9:58pm

Straight off "The REAL Feed"...

Vikings agree to terms with WR Robinson
NFL.com (08.03.2004 20:32)
The Minnesota Vikings agreed to terms with free-agent wide receiver Marcus Robinson, whose career experienced a brief renaissance in Baltimore.

Looks like the Vikes got a guy to work opposite Moss, AND Owens now has one less guy to compete with for balls in Baltimore. If M. Rob can regain just some of the magic that he had back in Chicago and that he showed flashes of last year, they'd have some nice receiving duo in Minnesota. [smiley=yes.gif] ... [smiley=lickinmychops.gif]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Mar 9^th, 2004, 1:07pm

Robinson will be a nice addition to the Vikes. Tice has already stated that he will start on the other side of Moss. They got him at a good price and will compliment Moss well. That's a 6'3" and a 6'4" reciever.

Vikes are doing well at spending there money this season. Winfield being the best thing that has happened so far. He is a huge addition to the Vikes D.

Next: The Vikes need to address the Kicker situation, a DE and OLB.

I can hear the rest of the NFC North Shaking in their boots already.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by kidcrash on Mar 9^th, 2004, 1:18pm

Right on mossaholic,I think m rob is a great addition, and winfield is even better.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 9^th, 2004, 1:37pm

on 03/09/04 at 13:07:07, Mossaholic wrote:

They got him at a good price and will compliment Moss well. That's a 6'3" and a 6'4" reciever.

Hopefully, he will "complement" Moss well, as well. ;)

[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]

Sorry, Mossman, I couldn't resist. The "Comedy Club Gang of Smilies" there made me do it! :-X

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Mar 10^th, 2004, 8:37am

Actually I think the reason the Vikes signed Marcus Robinson is because he said nice things about Randy Moss -- hence the "compliment" reference. ::)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 10^th, 2004, 8:53pm

What kind of numbers do you think M-Rob will put up in Minny? ?.?.?

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 10^th, 2004, 9:25pm

Who knows? Steggie's windows say... 650 to 1,000 yards (pretty wide-open) and 5 to 7 touchdowns.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Mar 11^th, 2004, 8:54pm

Tyrone Carter signs with the Vikes

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=E32FDCBC-930F-4A10-A059-43311BD01345

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Mar 16^th, 2004, 12:49am

With the signing of Robinson the Vikes decided they do not need Bates around any longer [smiley=cheers.gif]. Not big news but someone might be interested

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=3EA64132-AE13-4D8F-B8BB-119D030EE358

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 16^th, 2004, 11:16am

Mossman, GREAT post on the release of Bates, brother! I hope to have a dude to cover each and every team in such detail someday. Keep up the GREAT work! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Mar 20^th, 2004, 6:57pm

HOW ABOUT THEM VIKES!! [smiley=havinablast.gif]

The Vikes continue to do an excellant job with free agents

They addressed the need for a punter and signed Darren Bennett. A huge step up from Eddie Johnson who struggled all last year.

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=351E455E-9B27-40D2-B252-906FB055BD43

Also the Vikes sign Jermaine Wiggins to play a backup role to K-Sasser

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=C62FD14D-02B5-4BBD-BE89-1412B46D8095

Now only if the Vikes can get Ogunleye from the Dolphins without giving up their first pick.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 20^th, 2004, 7:02pm

Way to stay on top of the Vikings' offseason news for us, Mossman! Thanks! [smiley=bow.gif]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Mar 30^th, 2004, 11:34am

The Vikings will host the Tuna's Cowboys [smiley=flamewar.gif][smiley=cowboy.gif] on Sept. 12. It will be the second game of Fox's doubleheader to open the season.

http://www.vikings.com/Media/images/DallasVikes1977Opener.jpgURL

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=794C696B-224F-4075-9020-5BFA6086F45B

It also appears the Vikings will be without DE Kenny Mixon for the C-Boys game and a few others. He was convicted of his third DUI [smiley=alcoholic.gif]in two years last week. He will be sentenced on Thursday and will most likely also be suspended by the NFL.

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=F601B28F-3C6D-4496-8E67-5BAE304A481A

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by kidcrash on Mar 30^th, 2004, 11:55am

I sure do hope he gets into spin dry and it works this time.Its really sad how booze can ruin a persons life,ive seen it happen so many times to friends of mine.Very disturbing.Ill say a little prayer for him.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Mar 30^th, 2004, 11:14pm

on 03/30/04 at 11:55:45, kidcrash wrote:

I agree KId Crash I hope he gets everything worked out.

Vikings released CB Denard Walker today

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=3C759D5F-93DB-4B7B-972C-ECD9A8405D6D

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by kidcrash on Mar 31^st, 2004, 8:38am

Great news mossaholic,I know the vikes were desperate last season but I didnt care for that pickup.Gald he's gone. ;D

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 5^th, 2004, 4:03pm

[offtopic]I have NO clue why this thread occasionally seemingly automatically bumps up to the top of the list without an appended new post. [smiley=shrug.gif] Does anybody know what's up? Is someone doing an "invisible" bump, i.e. bumping it up with a "bump" post and then deleting the post? I'd just like to know because it's bothersome [smiley=shrug.gif] ... [smiley=annoyed.gif] and I do not want to have to lock or delete the thread thinking there is something technically wrong with it. On the other hand, feel free to bump threads if you think it's a good idea. Just leave your "bump" post appended.[/offtopic]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Apr 5^th, 2004, 9:12pm

on 04/05/04 at 16:03:09, StegRock wrote:

I do not know what is happening but you can't lock the Viking thread. And for some Vike news

Kenny Mixon was sentenced to 30 days for the DWI

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=F173A7AB-80E3-4233-9186-5570409D0171

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Apr 5^th, 2004, 10:32pm

The Vikings also announced the dates and times of their preseason games.

MINNESOTA VIKINGS 2004 PRESEASON SCHEDULE

Sat. Aug. 14 Arizona 7:00 p.m (ct)

Fri. Aug. 20 at Atlanta 6:30 p.m.

Fri. Aug. 27 San Fran. 7:00 p.m

Thurs. Sept. 2 at Seattle 8:00 p.m.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 5^th, 2004, 10:51pm

on 04/05/04 at 21:12:30, Mossaholic wrote:

I do not know what is happening but you can't lock the Viking thread.

[offtopic]Mossman, fret not... If it were to be found that there is something technically wrong with this thread and I was forced to lock it, I would start another "Vikings Offseason Report" thread and would link from it to this one. :)[/offtopic]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Apr 20^th, 2004, 2:17pm

Figured it was time to update the Vikings thread.

Moss might sit out minicamp and rest his foot. I say that if it isn't a 110% sit him out

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4731096.html

E.J. Henderson gets his first DUI. Henderson is the third 2003 Viking draft choice to get a DUI in the past nine months [smiley=thumbsdown.gif]. What up with the Vikes and the DUIs. Something needs to be done.

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=4291319A-69C7-494E-A6E7-70D6E1758117

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Apr 20^th, 2004, 3:13pm

on 04/20/04 at 14:17:42, Mossaholic wrote:

What up with the Vikes and the DUIs. Something needs to be done.

If I had to live in Minnesota, I might turn to the bottle too.

[smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by kidcrash on Apr 20^th, 2004, 3:33pm

You dog philly,ha ha ha ha [smiley=alcoholic.gif]That was a good one.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on May 6^th, 2004, 2:09pm

As expected Biekert decided to retire. I was hoping that he would stick around and take more of a coaching and leadership role with the young LBs.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2004-05-05-notes_x.htm

Also Moss is still bothered by his foot but is practicing.

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=0A8179CC-C55F-4317-B931-380C27057F8C

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 7^th, 2004, 2:58pm

Yea, what is up with this foot injury of Moss's? He claims that he'll only be playing at 85% this season. [smiley=ohshit.gif] Granted his 85% may be better than over half the league's wideout's 100%, but you can't like hearing that from a fantasy perspective... From top tier to upper middle class would be a MAJOR dropoff in what you'd expect out of the kind of pick you'd be using on him. Here's the bead on "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4761316.html.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 7^th, 2004, 4:35pm

on 05/07/04 at 14:58:16, StegRock wrote:

I'll try not to compare myself to Randy Moss (although the athletic similarities are striking ;) ), but I too have plantar fasciitis. From what I've found, it really hasn't affected me during athletic endeavors (mostly volleyball and softball at this point - even extended periods of walking), but the day after (having slept with my foot extended - not at a 90 degree angle to keep the plantar fascia stretched out) it is very painful to walk on. Once it gets stretched out again it seems to be OK.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on May 7^th, 2004, 6:43pm

Sounds like something is afoot :-[

A lot of great players seem to be less active in the early preseason. An excuse to avoid unnecessary injuries?

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 9^th, 2004, 6:15pm

[quote author=Callie link=board=55;num=1078801082;start=25#26 date=05/07/04 at 18:43:42]Sounds like something is afoot :-[/quote]

;)

Well, since he'll be needin' to lick his wound, it's good that we already know he can put his foot in his mouth.

[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif]

Here's the latest from atop "The REAL Feed" and from on "the (greater ;) ... :D ) Gridiron Newsstand":

Foot injury can't keep Moss from practice
SI.com: NFL (09.05.2004 16:19)

Vikes' Moss practices despite sore foot
ESPN: NFL (09.05.2004 12:19)

Straight from the (hoof-and-mouth-dieseased [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] ) horse's mouth -
http://www.vikings.com/News/MossQuotes5704.htm;

LOCAL report -
http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4765599.html.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on May 9^th, 2004, 6:57pm

"Cottrell will use a 4-3 scheme with the Vikings, and he'll be able to blitz more than the club has in the past. This is because their secondary has improved with the addition of CB Antoine Winfield."

"The Viking defense wore down in the second half of the season, but they'll have more depth and youth at their disposal."

"For the first time since WR Cris Carter retired, the Vikings believe they have found the perfect wide receiver to compliment Pro Bowl WR Randy Moss. If Robinson can stay healthy, he and Moss could form one of the most dynamic wide receiver tandems in the NFL."

That's what's out there.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on May 18^th, 2004, 11:32am

Michael Bennett is impressing the Viking coaching staff and is eight pounds lighter than last year weighing 201pds.

This is a good article about the RBBC in Minnesota and has quotes from all 4 RBs

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=6F8B7D9F-9916-4753-8B14-03D631DAD4D4

Here is a coupole of articles about the D. The Vikes have had 4 d coordinators the last 4 years no wonder why they struggle. I really see this year as a turning point for the Vikings D.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4767391.html

This article is about DEs in the North

http://vikings.theinsiders.com/2/259590.html

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by bgsgfan on May 18^th, 2004, 11:18pm

Thanks Mossaholic! The first article you linked to definitely made me feel better as a Bennett owner.
Quote:

"Bennett looks...fantastic," Tice said, hesitating briefly to choose the correct adjective.

"I almost caught myself just now saying he looks as good as [former Vikings running back] Robert Smith in his prime," Tice explained. "I don't want to go there yet, because Robert was a [heck] of a player."

Quote:

Smith, however, maintains he has no plans for staging a coup if Bennett is healthy.

"For sure, he's the feature back," Smith conceded, "but I'll be a good compliment to him like I was to Moe last year. I think things will work out just fine."

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by bgsgfan on Jun 12^th, 2004, 3:03am

Sports Center has an interesting piece about Brock Lesnar trying out Friday. I am sure there will be articles about his workout soon this AM, but right now all I can find are articles saying he will be working out. http://vikings.theinsiders.com/2/266193.html

For those of you who aren't WWE fans, this dude could be for real. Huge, fast, athletic, former college wrestling champion (undefeated?).
Quote:

There's no questioning Lesnar's athletic ability -- at 6-4, 290 he has almost no body fat. With his wrestling background, he could be as close to ideal in using strength and leverage to overpower offensive linemen, and Lesnar's trainers believe he can be an impact defensive end. What needs to be seen now is whether the claims of his speed are up to snuff.

Lesnar won't do any contact drills Friday with the Vikings but has scheduled a series of speed and agility drills. His trainers have claimed he runs a 4.7 40 time. If that is true, he will likely get a contract offer from someone, despite having not played football since his senior year of high school.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Jul 16^th, 2004, 10:27am

>:(

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PHI/7497542

Vikings fans have to be upset by the teams inaction on Trotter. At the start of free agency, his agent was expecting big numbers. I think those $$ scared off the Vikes, who apparently never bothered to follow up as Trotter went unsigned for the last few months.

The depth chart stands as follows:
Strong-Side Linebacker: 58-Nick Rogers 57-Raonall Smith
Middle Linebacker: 56-E.J. Henderson
Weak-side Linebacker: 55-Chris Claiborne 59-Michael Nattiel
Washed out Keith Newman and rookie Dontarrious Thomas will figure into the mix too, but this is one extremely thin group with very little experience. Trotter would have brought that experience, if nothing else.

Eagles got a steal, and the Vikes were caught napping here, IMO.

GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jul 16^th, 2004, 10:47am

Welcome back CP! Good to see you around here again.

I think maybe you are underestimating your defense a bit...

The way I see it:

WLB: Mike Nattiel with Dontarrious Thomas taking over before long. I think Thomas can be a good one.

MLB: EJ Henderson with Rod Davis backing up. I like Henderson and think Davis was a great draft choice.

SLB: Chris Claiborne with Smith/Newman as backups. I like Claiborne and think he is just entering his prime. Don't care for the backups here.

(Isn't Nick Rogers a backup pass-rushing DE?)

Sure, Trotter might have added some nice depth, but there are many concerns about him. His knee, his freelancing which puts him out of position...

I think the Vikes are going to surprise some teams with a much-improved defense this year.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Jul 16^th, 2004, 11:56am

Thanks Philly! Glad to be back. I've been lurking but not contributing anything in the off-season.

I agree with your assessments of the Viking draft picks. Thomas is as close to a sure contributor as the draft can produce, and has all the potential to be great LB.

I hadn't seen anything indicating Claiborne is moving to SAM, but if so, that worries me. He's not durable enough to stand up to the pounding he'll take there. I think he's more suited for WILL where he can fly to plays and be utilized in pass coverage/zone blitzes more.

If the LBs stay healthy, they should be good enough to keep the Vikings in games and not lose games for them. They certainly won't be difference makers like the Ravens crew in their Superbowl year.

If the LBs get hit by injuries, the Vikings could find themselves starting 2 rookies and either a career backup or a special teamer. Not good.

BTW, yeah, Nick Rogers is one of those tweeners that probably is best suited for a 3-4, but he's been suiting up as a linebacker. I think they plan on trying to move him to an edge rusher this year to spell Johnstone more.

GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jul 16^th, 2004, 1:29pm

I usually go to Ourlads for the depth charts. I find that the team websites don't update theirs too often. From the teams that I am very familiar with, they seem to be accurate.

http://www.ourlads.com/secure/index.cfm

They're the ones that ESPN links to from their individual team pages.
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Anyway, with a good defensive line, the LBs will be much improved. Linemen will have to stay at the line more because they'll be occupied by the DL/DE leaving the LBs free to make plays. An athletic bunch like the Vikes have should flourish in Cottrell's system. But, that's just my projection.

The Vikes are a team that (as an Eagles fan) really scares me this year. I'm glad the Eagles get them early in the season, because (hopefully) they'll still be working out some of the kinks in their defense. But once the Vikes get rolling, they'll be a scary team.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Jul 16^th, 2004, 3:51pm

on 05/07/04 at 14:58:16, StegRock wrote:

Any news on the Moss front? With drafts starting to take place it would be great to get some true accurate information.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Jul 16^th, 2004, 4:23pm

Nothing new [smiley=shrug.gif]

Fasciitis is supposedly an injury that frequently sees setbacks, so it's definitely a concern. I know Kleinsasser had problems last year. But the last I heard outta Winter Park was that they were "quietly optimistic" they'd have Moss close to 100% by training camp.

Draftwise, IMO, this injury simply makes the top WR spot on my board between Harrison, Moss & Holt more competitive. I gotta go with Moss still. He's 6 TDs above and beyond anyone else, so if he misses 3-4 games, he's still a top flight WR.

GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Jul 27^th, 2004, 6:05pm

Pro wrestler Brock Lesnar:

"The St. Paul Pioneer Press is reporting that the Minnesota Vikings will sign Lesnar to a contract, pending a physical.

Tice, the Vikings coach, made the decision after putting Lesnar through a strenuous 45-minute workout, according to the newspaper.

The 6-3, 286-pound Lesnar, who hasn't played football since high school, will report to Vikings training camp Friday as a defensive tackle.

'I'm excited,' Lesnar told the newspaper. 'All I ask for is the opportunity, and he's given me that.'"

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by bgsgfan on Jul 28^th, 2004, 12:25am

I can't wait to see what he does on the football field. This is also interesting from a marketing perspective. My GF and her kids have all been bugging me about Lesnar - judging from their interest, he could lure some of the WWE demographic back into the NFL. I could see that happening even if he turns out to be a bust.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jul 28^th, 2004, 9:56am

on 07/28/04 at 00:25:16, bgsgfan wrote:

judging from their interest, he could lure some of the WWE demographic back into the NFL.

Is this a good thing? ;)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Jul 28^th, 2004, 10:48am

Now if we can just get the rules committee to approve the pile driver and sleeper hold for use on QBs, or at least on Brat Farte, we're all set!

[smiley=waitinforu.gif]

GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Aug 5^th, 2004, 2:31pm

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/MIN/7552454

Mildly suprised by this. Kelly was Tice's pet project of the last few years. But he was never the same after his child and wife died, and 5 years is a long time to develop a project, especially in today's NFL. I wish him the best.

It looks more and more like undrafted rookie Anthony Herrera is the new o-lineman project. He's a pretty good story too:

From the REAL Feed:
http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4909976.html

GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Aug 11^th, 2004, 1:39pm

• Receiver Marcus Robinson missed most of the morning practice because of a tight hamstring, and coaches are beginning to suggest that Nate Burleson could overtake Robinson for the No. 2 receiving position. "Nate has been excellent," Tice said. "Maybe he's our No. 2 and Marcus is our No. 3. Who knows? That will all play itself out."

Vikes seemed destined to have a stiff on the other side of Moss every season. Hopefully this cry-baby gets on the field soon, but beware of drafting him as a #3 receiver, as he may see little action if demoted.

GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Aug 20^th, 2004, 12:15am

Breaking news over in Viking land looks like SOD (O. Smith) has a substance abuse problem. Possible 4 game suspension. [smiley=bonghit.gif]

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=440B097B-2E57-47CC-9804-CCEBE2816772

I believe that this might bump Bennett's value a little bit for the first four games. It probably helps M. Williams value the most because it will still be RBBC in Minny with Williams getting the carries that SOD would have got in the first four games.

Also possible sale of the Vikings in the works

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4933813.html

http://vikings.theinsiders.com/2/285093.html

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 20^th, 2004, 8:22am

on 08/20/04 at 00:15:16, Mossaholic wrote:

Why are these players so stupid? I don't get it. Anyway, thanks for the info... I think I will bump Moe a bit in my rankings. (I was already high on the guy, having owned him in all four of my FF leagues at some point during the 2003 season.)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 20^th, 2004, 10:21am

on 08/20/04 at 08:22:46, Philly wrote:

Unbelievable! No wonder the Dolphins did not make a play for him. One toker for another. It truly makes you wonder......

I guess the bottom line is that these football players should have become NBA players so they could maintain their lifestyle.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Aug 20^th, 2004, 10:45am

My take is that I understand Ricky, who has his millions and is ready to do something else. I like Robert Smith leaving to go (or at least saying he's going) to med school much better than Ricky saying he's leaving to go smoke; however, you have to be happy and if you don't need the money, why not?

But OSmith isn't making any money yet! He's still on his rookie contract making <300K/yr. You sure would think he could keep his nose clean for 3 years to cash in.

[smiley=nono.gif]

GO VIKES ...not named Onterrio.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Aug 22^nd, 2004, 10:31am

Here is the latest regarding the SOD and his suspension. According to Tice the rookie from Tulane, Moore will be taking Smith's carries duting the first four games.

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=2A153199-1198-4489-8214-E65C459558BA

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Aug 24^th, 2004, 4:29pm

Looks like M. Robinson has been demoted to the third WR behind Burleson. Roboinson is battling injuries already (for some reason when the Vikes signed this guy I thought all his injury problmes would disappear as soon as he put on the purple jersey). It will be interesting to see how this plays out but Robinson is sliding down draft boards.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/503/4944362.html

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 24^th, 2004, 4:38pm

I know, having poked around a few other sites, that Nate Burleson is being talked about as the next coming of Jerry Rice. OK, maybe I exaggerate, but he is getting a ton of hype.

When I wrote my 2003 draft analysis (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/west/MrIrrelevant.htm) I correctly predicted that he would get a good amount of playing time during his rookie year. However, he didn't really produce much despite serving as the #2 on a few occasions.

Is there any reason to believe that Burleson is going to be any better than 2003?

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Aug 24^th, 2004, 5:21pm

IMO, no. Burleson is a nice route runner with good size and speed. All the tools right? But he never seemed to step up and have a big game when a D took Moss away. I think he's just been slow to adapt his game to the pro level. Unfortunately, I don't see him doing much to deserve a #2 as much as a #3 on your roster. I see 2-3 catches/gm for 30-45 yds, but seldom seeing the endzone.

Besides, I think the mystery ailments afflicting Robinson will clear up when the games start counting.

GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Aug 26^th, 2004, 12:38am

Quote:

Is there any reason to believe that Burleson is going to be any better than 2003?

Well it looks like there might be some reasons to suspect that Burleson will improve for the 2004 season. Here is an article about Burleson and some things he has done during the offseason to improve his game.

Burleson ready to break out
http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=E639F02B-E19B-4EE9-BED5-6EC1C9453F26

Here is an article about Robinson as well

Injury talks irritates Robinson

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4946398.html

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Aug 27^th, 2004, 10:46pm

Bennett & McKinnie with sprained right knees. Onterrio suspended. Moe may get some love, if things are bad. Drafting this weekend?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-vikings-injuries&prov=ap&type=lgns

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Aug 28^th, 2004, 7:10pm

Bennett a little iffy for opener

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=177574F7-E9B5-4E8C-8D11-E45B15526FD0

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Aug 29^th, 2004, 7:38pm

Now they say Bennett could be out for a month - or more... They're hoping he'll be available for week 3 at this point.

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4953677.html

Think about Williams, Mewelde Moore, Onterrio Smith and Larry Ned (deep) if you're drafting this week.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 30^th, 2004, 6:39am

on 08/29/04 at 19:38:52, Callie wrote:

But don't forget that Smith will miss the first four games due to suspension. Williams would be a nice pick-up for the early part of the season.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Aug 30^th, 2004, 5:46pm

Pro wrestler Brock Lesnar released by the Vikes today. [smiley=bawling.gif]

Oh, well. There's always pro hockey!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Sep 1^st, 2004, 7:39am

on 08/30/04 at 17:46:32, Callie wrote:

Pro wrestler Brock Lesnar released by the Vikes today. [smiley=bawling.gif]

Oh, well. There's always pro hockey!

Damn! I soooo wanted to see big ol' Lesnar [smiley=pumped.gif] toss Brat Farte through the uprights!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Sep 1^st, 2004, 7:43am

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=E0BB8B59-4B2F-4165-8D47-1BC586C2E10F

** adding link to the Gridiron REAL Feed **
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=1872476&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233

Elling is released, Brett Conway signed.

Update your draft boards accordingly. Elling was a fantasy nightmare if you lose points for misses. He's iffy from 30 yds out and less than 50/50 from over 40. Tice tried to show him confidence in preseason but Elling didn't respond with any solid outings, practice or otherwise.

Because of Minnesota's offensive prowess, Conway deserves to be in the upper half to upper 3rd of kickers on your board.

GO VIKES!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Sep 1^st, 2004, 6:23pm

Benett expected to be out until October 10th (Week 5). He could come back as early as Week 2, but if he does it doesn't seem like he'll get many carries before the bye week. Scroll down:

"And in either event, it appears the earliest Bennett will be ready to start a game is the Oct. 10 game at Houston following the Vikings' bye week. "That's the way I see it now," Tice said."

http://www.startribune.com/stories/510/4958503.html

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 2^nd, 2004, 10:04am

on 09/01/04 at 07:43:44, captainpurple wrote:

Elling is released, Brett Conway signed.

Thanks for the update cp. I saw this before I was able to find it anywhere else. I had been targetting Elling as my K in a few leagues, and actually landed him in one. I ran out and cut him and picked up Joe Nedney (off waivers) as soon as I saw your news.

on 09/01/04 at 18:23:12, Callie wrote:

Great update Callie. I know they were saying that the Week 2 game (MNF against the Eagles) was the target a few days ago. This certainly changes things and gives a LOT more value to Moe Williams as he will likely be the go-to guy for 25% of the season.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 3^rd, 2004, 10:07am

OK... here's the latest one I've heard. Onterrio Smith has not yet been officially suspended by the league for the four games. The Vikings anticipate that the official word will come sometime next week.

However, if Smith appeals (as he is expected to do), then it could take the league a week to decide on his appeal making him available for the first game of the season while awaiting a decision on his appeal.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Mossaholic on Sep 3^rd, 2004, 10:26am

O. smith will play against Dallas in the opener for the Vikes according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/sports/football/9568213.htm

Here is an article about Smith possibly getting to play

http://vikings.kfan.com/sports/nflguide/local/story.aspx?content_id=9D6027DF-8344-4C8D-8DCB-B9688A1FDAA8

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by prm on Sep 3^rd, 2004, 6:34pm

so where does that leave moe williams???...in the opinion(s) of the gridiron???
prm...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 4^th, 2004, 8:44am

on 09/03/04 at 18:34:54, prm wrote:

so where does that leave moe williams???...in the opinion(s) of the gridiron???
prm...

As a #3 FF back week 1
As a #2 FF back weeks 2-3
As a #4 FF back week 5
Unknown after that...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by prm on Sep 5^th, 2004, 10:13am

ok - another viking query...where do you rank the vikes' d/st vs. tn & st. louis??...they were certainly opportunistic last year w/ int - but project from a weekly productivity standpoint (3 pt. int / fr and actual scored points, no bonuses)...
prm..

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 7^th, 2004, 4:26pm

For all of you who ran out and grabbed Brett Conway as a fantasy kicker, knowing the Vikes would give him plenty of opportunities, think again...

Conway released and veteran K Morten Andersen signed.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Sep 7^th, 2004, 4:44pm

Conway SUCKED [smiley=gettinridden.gif] vs SEA on kickoffs, which was supposedly his specialty. I didn't see one get inside th 15! He's no better a FG kicker than Andersen, so I think the Vikes just wanted the better reliability of Andersen here. Conway has just been injured too much.

Here's a link:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=citadel-2_291899_63&prov=citadel&type=lgns