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(Message started by: Dullo on Nov 12^th, 2004, 10:34am)

Title: Favre or Carr?
Post by Dullo on Nov 12^th, 2004, 10:34am

big game this week, its a must win for me. Both of these guys are playing against sketchy defs. Do I take Favre at home against Minny or Carr away against Indy? I like Favre esp. with the bye week, but I fear ahman green getting a lot of carries, and the Pack not needing to pass. On the other hand, Houston's def sucks, so that's going to be a shootout. Help me out here please...

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 12^th, 2004, 10:38am

I'd go Carr here. Indy will probably get out to an early lead, forcing Carr to throw- a lot.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by captainpurple on Nov 12^th, 2004, 10:46am

agreed. Carr and Johson should have a great day vs INDY. There's not really a running game there to help HOU keep the score down.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by lumber2121 on Nov 12^th, 2004, 10:53am

Go with Carr. I agree with the others. Carr is solid and a matchup against the Indy defense will surely help his numbers.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by Dullo on Nov 12^th, 2004, 2:40pm

Thank you all for your opinions. I appreciate the feedback!

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by Philly on Nov 12^th, 2004, 3:58pm

For what it's worth, I'd go with Favre. I love Carr, but I think Favre will have better numbers.

The Indy D held Daunte Culpepper to 160+ yards and only one TD. And Houston can run the ball. Dom Davis is finally healthy. He had 2 TDs against a decent Denver D in week nine, so let's not discount him here.

The Viking D has been deplorable this season. They've only had one good game and it was against a banged up Tennessee offense. Favre should be hyped for a game against an NFC North rival. And don't forget that Ahman Green is heavily involved in the GB passing game.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by sameoldsameold on Nov 12^th, 2004, 5:39pm

Peyton manning has never thrown for 300+ yards againest 4 games againest the texans...so it might not be the shoot out everyone is thinking it is...domanick davis is back and the texans wanna run more....

Now the viking got a few key LBs back....like henderson....but their pass defense is still horrid.....i say play farve at HOME....im thinking at least 3 tds this week

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by Callie on Nov 12^th, 2004, 7:12pm

Wow! High scoring could be written all over BOTH games. But the trick is this - where will all the points come from?

MIN pass rush is inconsistent, but it's easy for Green to run on DT Hoven. Walker will get love, but so will Green. No way to know if the TDs will be passing or running. Crap shoot, in my opinion. Favre could pass his butt off or hand off a lot.

Other game - Carr has to keep up with Manning, who has about a million targets and the HOU CBs are in need of a bit more experience. But Carr has 4 viable targets himself. And Carr likes to get Davis out of the backfield.

My only advice is that Favre has more option at RB than Carr has, so I would play Carr. Carr needs to pass more than Favre does, and this should be a high scoring game.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by twelve12 on Nov 12^th, 2004, 10:32pm

No running game in Houston? Domanick Davis is a good dual threat runner but has been indurable over the past couple of weeks. I think he will have a big day running and receiving. As far as the quarterbacks, go with Favre he'll put 'em up.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by kec6906 on Nov 13^th, 2004, 12:49am

i'd go favre at home coming off the bye.

like Philly said Indy shut down C Pep last week and they could do the same to Carr.

Manning threw 268 yds & 4 TD's (4,5,10,19) against the Minny def last week. plus James also ran for over 123 yds & caught 5 for 56 yds.

the Minny D is just plain bad - Indy passing D hasnt been good either but if they keep playing the way they did last week.....

Favre has Green who is a stud RB and also has a big role in the passing game. besides Walker, Franks & Driver to throw to.

i like Favre this week.

KC [smiley=eagle.gif] [smiley=eagle.gif]

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by captainpurple on Nov 13^th, 2004, 10:54am

on 11/13/04 at 00:49:20, kec6906 wrote:

[offtopic]
I miss ONE WEEK of post game analysis and everyone starts thinking crazy thoughts like "Indy shut down C Pep last week "

Indy did NOT shut down CPepp, the game plan was to keep the score low and close, hence OSmith and Bennett combining for more rush attempts than passes. CPepp was 16for19 1 TD 0INT. Granted, he didn't light it up, but they didn't want or try to light it up. Game plan almost worked too! if it weren't for poor coaching/clock mgmt, I think they could've won that game.[/offtopic]

Indy will NOT shut Carr down. Callie said it perfectly, too many options for GB, only 1 for HOU. Expect Carr to have the better day.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by Callie on Nov 14^th, 2004, 6:12pm

Boy, was I wrong! Sorry, guy!

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 14^th, 2004, 6:22pm

Yeah, who saw that coming. I guess Philster did, which just proves even a small dog gets a bone every once in a while. ;) Just kidding, good call Jeff.

BTW, I started Favre over Bulger in my QFL league.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by sameoldsameold on Nov 15^th, 2004, 2:41am

why dont i get any love! didnt i say start farve! damn you philly you always overshadow me :P btw no one look at what i said in RB sections :P

on another note.....congrats david garrard....nice game...hope he won a starting job some where else yesterday...

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by Philly on Nov 15^th, 2004, 8:24am

Nice call soso... anyway, I'm getting the props here because I was the first one to say go with Favre. You just jumped on my coattails (which is a smart thing to do!) and rode the Favre wave. ;)

What people don't realize is the huge impact rookie Bob Sanders is having on the Colts D. He is one of the main reasons that the Vikes and Texans have been stymied for consecutive weeks now.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 15^th, 2004, 10:14am

on 11/15/04 at 02:41:12, sameoldsameold wrote:

I gave Philly props for being right because he seldom is. ;)

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by Philly on Nov 15^th, 2004, 10:49am

on 11/15/04 at 10:14:58, BarnabyWilde wrote:

I gave Philly props for being right because he seldom is. ;)

I'll let that one go since I know you must be mourning after your Giants came up so small against the hapless Cardinals.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by DOLFAN on Nov 15^th, 2004, 10:52am

SOSO was right on target!
I started Carr over Brooks in my league. I really expected better #s. It apears that Indy's DEF is starting to come together. It always easier when you make the other team one demensional and force them to pass playing catch up.
I would always start Favre, unless I had Manning or Daunte.

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by sameoldsameold on Nov 15^th, 2004, 12:21pm

Quote:

Nice call soso... anyway, I'm getting the props here because I was the first one to say go with Favre. You just jumped on my coattails (which is a smart thing to do!) and rode the Favre wave.

Dream on :) noticed i called the TDs too...

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by Dullo on Nov 15^th, 2004, 12:26pm

What's really scary is that I looked at all of these opinions on Sunday a.m. and Philly's made the most sense to me, so I went with Favre after all. So, Philly, thanks much for the advice!! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Favre or Carr?
Post by sameoldsameold on Nov 15^th, 2004, 3:48pm

bah philly always gets the love...sameoldsameold thing.....