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Title: Benching Cpepp... Post by Ghostrider on Nov 12th, 2004, 9:24pm OK while I visited another FF Forum website that shall remain nameless, I came upon a thread that was deemed "Benching Cpepp". While I thought and read this the author was calling Cpepp another average q/b while stating that he was going to bench Culpepper for Griese. Another said that he was going to bench Culpepper for Quincy Carter. I am way off by thinking that this is ludicrous or is there some substance in benching Cpepp for Griese ( I would never in my dying day start Quincy Carter) Hep me out if ya can |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 12th, 2004, 9:44pm Welcome Ghostrider, to the GRIDIRON, the only ff forum you'll need! No one here will tell you to bench C-Pep for Carter, or Griese (as hot as he is right now). SO talk a look around and enjoy the quality info here! [smiley=headbanger.gif] |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by StegRock on Nov 12th, 2004, 9:44pm First off and foremost, [smiley=ghost.gif]rider (gotta love the way we already got the perfect smiley already in place for ya, bro), I'd like to extend a hearty [smiley=welcome.gif] to ya on "the Gridiron"! Based on your prelude there, I am guessing that we may have crossed paths "somewhere" in the past. I hope you decide to make "the Gridiron" a regular part of your FF diet. I look forward to getting (re)acquainted with you and come to know you better perhaps over time. Send me an instant message here and let me know who you are (if you want). On to your query,... With Moss out, I think we are learning who really is the key in Minny (read, not Culpepper, though he is a big part, granted). So, while Moss is out, you really have to scrutinize over the matchups Minny has. Culpepper up in the cold winds of Green Bay without Moss, I don't like it. Griese up against a bereft secondary (indoors) in Atlanta looks pretty yummy. [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] There is NO WAY any sane fantasy footballer should even be contemplating Quincy Carter over Culpepper, though, no less a Quincy Carter making his first start of the season for a new team AGAINST BALTIMORE,... read 5 interceptions and 4 lost fumbles. Really, a stat line like 10 for 30 for 75 yards, 0 touchdowns and 4 picks and 2 lost fumbles is very within the realm of possibility. Back to Culpepper, though, up in Green Bay without Moss and WITH ALL THOSE RUNNING BACKS back there needing touches, 225 yards and 2 touchdowns are THE MOST you can expect out of him this week and 200 and 1 is very likely. |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by StegRock on Nov 12th, 2004, 9:45pm on 11/12/04 at 21:44:14, BarnabyWilde wrote:
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by BarnabyWilde on Nov 13th, 2004, 1:37am What? ;) on 11/12/04 at 21:45:18, StegRock wrote:
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by steelkings on Nov 13th, 2004, 9:51am In a scoring only league. Would you bench c-pepp for Dave Carr? |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by sexydexy on Nov 13th, 2004, 9:56am I'd consider benching C-Pepp for Griese this week. The matchup and the lack of C-Pepp's stats the last few weeks are telling signs of what happens when Moss goes down. Plus, the Packers defense has been tremendous with the return of Grady Jackson. Assuming you get points for yardage, of course. In a TD only league, I don't think you can bench C-Pepp because he has more potential then most to score TDs on a consistent basis. |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by captainpurple on Nov 13th, 2004, 10:27am my moniker's bias aside..... WHAT!? :o [smiley=nono.gif] First off, I don't see the Greise @ ATL matchup as "yummy". TB has a pretty marginal offensive line in pass protection, allowing 20 sacks already this year. ATL has 20 sacks this year. I expect Greise to be under a significant amount of pressure this week, and with ATL having a stout run D (minus the KC game), don't expect Pittman to alleviate that pressure much. Greise may get 2-3 TDs, but expect some sacks and maybe a pick or 2 as well. With that analysis, there's no way I can bench CPepp for that. CPepp is going to get 2 TDs in this one. Grady Jackson back in the middle makes the Pack significantly harder to run on. OSmith is up to that challenge to the tune of 85 rushing, but CPepp is going to need to do some passing in the RZ. I agree with Steg that CPepp may only get 200-225 passing, but I see at least 2 TDs. To me, the only way you bench the #2 QB in the league, is if you have an unquestionably better matchup, and you don't. Stick with CPepp. GOOD LUCK! |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by sameoldsameold on Nov 13th, 2004, 1:19pm jus thought i would throw this in.....tampa offensive line has been playing great lately and they have been moving the pocket for griese....secondly...atlanta has 30th ranked pass defense.....not to mention tampa has all their weapons back....and yes pittman will have a good week....maybe not running....but he is a excellent reciever and get a few wheel routes.....c-pep i think is also a good play....reason i think c-peps numbers will be about the same as griese or a little bit less....either start is good....but griese could blow up this week...so i would start greise.... |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by StegRock on Nov 13th, 2004, 1:48pm on 11/13/04 at 09:51:14, steelkings wrote:
Yes, I would... for the same reasons I would use Griese over Culpepper this week. ... [offtopic]cp,... you wouldn't have a BIAS now here, would ya? ;)[/offtopic] |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by Chumpzilla on Nov 13th, 2004, 2:08pm I gotta tell ya, I've gotta side with BW and CP on this one. Yes, Moss is out. But you have Robinson, Campbell, and Burleson wor are very capable receivers. You also have targets out of the backfield with Williams, Smith, and Bennett and an above average TE in Wiggins. If Culpepper is on my roster, barring having a Manning or McNabb on your roster or a nagging injury to Culpepper, I ALWAYS start Culpepper. Just my opinion though! ;D |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by captainpurple on Nov 13th, 2004, 2:24pm on 11/13/04 at 13:48:40, StegRock wrote:
I resemble that remark...and don't call me shirley. ;D |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by Callie on Nov 13th, 2004, 9:22pm Hey - WELCOME, Ghost! [smiley=sunny.gif] On the C-Pepp issue: One - Daunte Culpepper can run the ball (some of his scoring may just be there this week). Two - GB's pass rush ain't much to write home about. Three - GB's secondary is hurting. Four - C-Pepp has to keep up with the score and, as previously mentioned, has many targets (including himself!). I would play Culpepper. |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by s_laflesh on Nov 13th, 2004, 9:46pm I've gotta agree with Chumpzilla on this one. If I had a player of Culpepper's caliber, I would not be sitting him unless I had a much better option. (ie-Manning) If theres one thing I have learned throughout the years, its that just when you bench a star player, he has that huge week and you miss out. |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by captainpurple on Nov 14th, 2004, 11:40pm ahem.... ::) . . ahem... ::) :-X |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by Ghostrider on Nov 15th, 2004, 1:26am Thanks everyone for your responses What a Game in GB!! Unfortunately I was working and missed all the fun but I really appreciate the feedback. I did bench Cpepp in one lg for Bulger but started him in another. ( over Harrington whew) |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by StegRock on Nov 15th, 2004, 2:00am Good deal, [smiley=ghost.gif]man! Savy move on playing Bulger over him. I would have definitely done that! ... [offtopic]Hey, at least I put my money where my mouth is,... or maybe it's the other way around... [smiley=thinking.gif] In the GBRFL this week, I traded for AND started Griese... Given that we start 2 QB's, he was a decent start: high percentage of completions, 2 TD's, only 1 pick,... not a bad off-week complement to Delhomme at all. I'm a satisfied customer. [smiley=yes.gif][/offtopic] |
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Title: Re: Benching Cpepp... Post by steelkings on Nov 16th, 2004, 6:53am C-Pepp's 4 TD passes worked for me. Who knew that Indy would drag a defence out of the closet for that game. I fortunatley left David Carr comfortably on the bench. |
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