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(Message started by: DirkDiggler on Feb 14th, 2005, 5:52pm)
Title: Browns Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Feb 14th, 2005, 5:52pm
http://www.cleveland.com/sportsflash/sports/index.ssf?/base/sports-8/1108419049118500.xml&storylist=sports

Cleveland release Jeff Garcia today.  This essentially leaves Cleveland without a QB.  Garcia is gone, and Holcomb is a free agent.  So what are the Browns going to do?  Resign Holcomb?  Draft a QB?  Try to get someone via free agency?  Free agency is risky since Hasselback is probably going to be the top QB available with lots of suitors.   Holcomb is probably in the top 3 FA QBs this year.  

My guess is that the Browns will draft a QB to observe for a year AND sign Drew Bledsoe when he is released from the Bills.  Just a total guess.....

The other question is:

Where will Garcia land?  Dallas?  Miami?  Arizona?  San Fran?  Strong rumors now lead to Tampa Bay.  I will be curious where he ends up.  
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 8th, 2005, 9:45pm
HOT off "The REAL Feed"...  Jeff Garcia's replacement is... [smiley=drummer.gif]

QB Dilfer signs four-year deal with Browns (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2008235&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (08.03.2005 20:55)
Dilfer, Browns make long-term commitment by Associated Press

Browns sign Trent Dilfer to 4-year deal (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/03/08/2020.ap.fbn.browns.dilfer.0644/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (08.03.2005 21:09)

It couldn't be, could it?
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Apr 1st, 2005, 6:54pm
Broncos trade Droughns for Ekuban, Myers.
Droughns goes to Cleveland:

http://broncos.scout.com/2/364969.html
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Callie on May 2nd, 2005, 1:43pm
"Kellen Winslow Jr. Injured in motorcycle crash:
ESPN Radio is reporting that Kellen Winslow was injured in a
motorcycle accident as he hit a curb going 35 MPH.  Apparently the
injuries are not career threatening but he is hospitalized."

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=721406

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7710213/
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 2nd, 2005, 2:08pm
I feel bad for the guy as a human being.  It's never good for someone to get hurt like that.  

That being said, I have to admit that I never wished him well as an NFL player.  I didn't like his attitude coming into the league and don't mind that he still hasn't amounted to anything as an NFL TE.
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 2nd, 2005, 5:32pm

on 05/02/05 at 13:43:25, Callie wrote:
"Kellen Winslow Jr. Injured in motorcycle crash:
ESPN Radio is reporting that Kellen Winslow was injured in a
motorcycle accident as he hit a curb going 35 MPH.  Apparently the
injuries are not career threatening but he is hospitalized."

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory?id=721406

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7710213/


Not to kick a guy when he's down or anything...  But, the reports say "not life-threatening", not "not career-threatening".  Just thought we should be clear on that!  This guy's career may be over.
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Callie on May 2nd, 2005, 5:36pm
The quote I put in the post (see above) was an alert from ESPN radio, so obviously no link.  I just googled the thing and put in the articles I could find as links for younz' (;)) enjoyment.

But ESPN did say "not career-threatening."

(Sorry about the double-post for modify, but at least I got it done in one less post than Steggie's! ;D)
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 2nd, 2005, 5:42pm

on 05/02/05 at 17:36:44, Callie wrote:
(Sorry about the double-post for modify, but at least I got it done in one less post than Steggie's! ;D)


Yea, I'm notorious for that... [smiley=smileytrash.gif]
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Callie on May 3rd, 2005, 10:58pm
Motorcycle crash may put Winslow's season in jeopardy

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/11547356.htm

Link doesn't test out, makes you sign up.  So here's the text.

BEREA, Ohio - (KRT) - A motorcycle accident might have Kellen Winslow's status for the 2005 season in question.

Winslow, the Browns' first-round draft choice in 2004, has swelling in his right knee and shoulder after he flipped over the handlebars during a crash Sunday evening.

Winslow was treated for internal injuries Monday at the Cleveland Clinic, but the team said those injuries were stable and not serious.

The swelling in the knee, though, could indicate a bigger problem that won't be known until Winslow is examined further.

WebMD.com lists swelling as a symptom of varying degrees of ligament tears. If Winslow tore a ligament, he could be out for an extended time.

"The extent of these (knee and shoulder) injuries will not be known until further medical evaluation is complete after the swelling is reduced," a statement from the Browns said.

The statement said there was no timetable for Winslow's release from the hospital.

The accident took place as Winslow was learning to ride his 2005 Suzuki GSX-R750, which he bought in April, according to the Associated Press. Winslow and four friends went to a Cuyahoga Community College parking lot in Westlake, near Winslow's home.

Winslow hit a curb and apparently hit the accelerator instead of the brake. That caused him to fly over the windshield.

Westlake police reported that Winslow was going 35 mph when he hit the curb. Winslow was wearing a helmet, but it was not strapped on, and it flew off his head. Alcohol was not involved, police told the AP.

Winslow spent Sunday night in Fairview Hospital, then was sent to the Clinic by ambulance Monday morning so Browns doctors could examine him.

"I have no comment," Winslow's father, Kellen Winslow Sr., said. "I'm not speaking to the press. Anything released about Kellen will come from the Cleveland Browns."

The Browns' only comment came through the statement.

Winslow's agent, Carl Poston, did not return a phone message.

The Browns would not comment on Winslow's contract, but Section 3 of the standard player contract prohibits players from activities that have "significant risk of personal injury."

If the Browns did not want Winslow to ride a motorcycle, the team would have had to specifically write language in Winslow's contract prohibiting that activity, according to the NFL Players Association.

It's not known whether Winslow's contract contained that kind of clause, but the NFLPA official said many contracts have specific items mentioned. A league source said he would be surprised if Winslow's contract did not have specific prohibitions.

In recent years, motorcycle accidents have caused serious injuries to players in other sports.

In June 2003, Chicago Bulls guard Jay Williams broke his pelvis, leg and suffered a serious knee injury when his motorcycle crashed. The Bulls and Williams reached a contract buyout, but Williams has not played since.

In 2001, Jeff Kent (then of the San Francisco Giants) broke his wrist while riding a motorcycle. The team retained Kent.

Former Atlanta Brave Ron Gant missed a full year after shattering his leg in a motorcycle accident in February 1994. The Braves voided his contract after the accident.

Winslow, a tight end, only played in two games last season due to a broken fibula in his left leg.
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Callie on May 3rd, 2005, 10:59pm
Also this:

KFFL Breaking News
Winslow may Miss 2005 Season

Clark Judge, of SportsLine.com, reports the Cleveland Browns are concerned injuries suffered by TE Kellen Winslow Jr. in his motorcycle accident may cost him the entire 2005 season. The primary problem, sources said, are potentially significant injuries to the right knee and right shoulder. The team cannot confirm the extent of the injuires until the swelling in the knee and shoulder subside. In addition, sources said the Browns believe Winslow may have suffered a punctured lung and an injury to his kidney, but neither of those injuries has the team overly concerned.

(No link)
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 4th, 2005, 9:03am
I find it interesting how, before (and immediately after) he was drafted in 2004, you couldn't shut Kellen Winslow, Sr., or Carl Poston up.  Now, once they realize what an idiot their son/client is they have nothing to say.
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Callie on May 5th, 2005, 11:18pm
Winslow likely done for the year:

"The Tribune Chronicle has learned that Winslow suffered a tear of the anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. Surgery will be required, which means that Winslow will likely miss the upcoming season."

http://www.tribune-chronicle.com/sports/story/055202005_spt01winslow05.asp

"Winslow is the latest in what has become a long list of Browns first-round draft choices that haven't panned out. Quarterback Tim Couch (1999) is out of football with a sore arm. Defensive end Courtney Brown (2000) had an injury-riddled five-year run and was released in March. Defensive tackle Gerard Warren (2001) never played up to expectations and was recently traded to Denver. Running back William Green (2002) was arrested for DUI and possession of marijuana and is in Stage 2 of the NFL's drug program. Center Jeff Faine (2003) has finished both of his seasons on injured-reserve with leg injuries."

Looking to pick up Braylon Edwards this year??? :-/
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 10th, 2005, 4:32pm
Currently from atop "The REAL Feed":

Winslow released from hospital (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/05/10/2020.ap.fbn.browns.winslow.accident.0197/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (10.05.2005 14:38)

Pithiest quote:
"Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. was released from the hospital Tuesday, nine days after a motorcycle accident left him with internal injuries and a damaged right knee.  ...  Winslow walked out of the Cleveland Clinic on metal crutches, putting no weight on his right leg."
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 18th, 2005, 7:44pm
Here's the latest news coming off "The REAL Feed" regarding Winslow:

Browns TE Winslow undergoes MRI (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN3901599.htm)
The Sports Network: NFL (18.05.2005 09:50)

Now,... we wait! [smiley=ontheclock.gif]
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Callie on May 19th, 2005, 1:42am
"KFFL Breaking News
Winslow Reportedly Out for the Year

Updating ongoing reports, Jim Donovan, of WKYC.com, reports Cleveland Browns TE Kellen Winslow Jr. (knee) will miss the entire 2005 season. His station, Channel 3 News, has learned that Winslow has a significant right knee injury. Results of Winslow's MRI have not been released, but Donovan is reporting sources told him the results show an injury to his ACL. The Winslow family will not allow the information to be become public."

Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 19th, 2005, 5:18pm
As per "The REAL Feed":

Winslow reportedly done for season (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN3903195.htm)
The Sports Network: NFL (19.05.2005 11:52)

Sources: Browns' Winslow tears knee ligament (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/05/19/2020.ap.fbn.browns.winslow.0244/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (19.05.2005 15:19)
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by SGT86Whitt on May 25th, 2005, 9:40pm
Being a Browns fan all my life and watching them have seasons full of ups and downs what more can you expect.  Yes Winslow is done for another season.  The games he did play last year he did nothing.  And to think I drafted him in the 6th Round last year in FF.  Hopefully Winslow is ready for next year(cross your fingers).  With that said hopefully he doesn't ask to be traded or ask for more money.  I am happy the Browns drafted B. Edwards.  Maybe in 5 more years the Browns will be a good team :-X
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 25th, 2005, 10:14pm
Welcome to the Gridiron Sgt.  Hope you enjoy it here!

So, any word on Sean Jones' recovery?  Will he be starting at safety this year?  You think he will be an impact player?
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Jun 1st, 2005, 9:26pm
The Case for Boulware

Nice read, any info, Sgt Whitt?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=citadel-2_383611_149&prov=citadel&type=story
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 14th, 2005, 2:34am
For the absolute latest news on Winslow, Jr.,... currently topping "The REAL Feed":

Browns' Winslow to undergo knee surgery (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/06/14/2020.ap.fbn.browns.winslow.surgery.1st.ld.writethru.0445/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (14.06.2005 00:01)
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 14th, 2005, 6:36pm
Wow...  Winslow is lucky to be alive.  From "The REAL Feed":

Winslow Injured Kidney, Liver in Crash (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050614/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_browns_winslow_surgery)
AP Sports (14.06.2005 15:00)
BEREA, Ohio - Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. reportedly injured his kidney and liver while attempting stunts on his high-powered motorcycle last month. He will undergo surgery Tuesday on the right knee he tore up in the accident.

What a dope! [smiley=no.gif]
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 30th, 2005, 10:05pm
From "The REAL Feed":

Browns holding out hope for Edwards (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/07/30/2020.ap.fbn.browns.edwards.0478/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (30.07.2005 18:13)

[smiley=thumbsdown.gif]

Here are further details from LOCAL sources available on "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/112271620260650.xml&coll=2.

Also, rookie QB Charlie Frye, an Ohio product and Browns fan from childhood, is receiving nothing but raves from coaches and players.  Here's the OFFICIAL word from "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news_room/news/arts/4443.0.html.

[smiley=twothumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 2nd, 2005, 11:44am
If you like rhetoric, here's what RB Reuben Droughns has to say about what he intends to accomplish this season...  As per "The REAL Feed":

Droughns' goal to end Browns' 1,000-yard drought (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/08/02/2020.ap.fbn.browns.droughns.0719/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (02.08.2005 02:54)

[smiley=idontknow.gif] Uh,... okay... :-X
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 2nd, 2005, 7:51pm
Edwards contract-negotiation update...  Things are going south, quite literally actually...  Here's the latest LOCAL chatter from sources on "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/football/nfl/cleveland_browns/12282310.htm;

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1122975319230410.xml&coll=2.
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 4th, 2005, 6:34pm
Re:  Edwards's ongoing holdout...  From "The REAL Feed":

Dilfer Warns Edwards of Holdout Hazards (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050804/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_browns_edwards)
AP Sports (04.08.2005 15:08)
BEREA, Ohio - As rookie wide receiver Braylon Edwards' contract holdout presses on, Browns quarterback Trent Dilfer is reminded of a mistake he made before taking his first NFL snap. One that cost him part of his career.
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 6th, 2005, 1:47am
Here's the OFFICIAL word on RB Reuben Droughns's sore hamstring... from "the Gridiron Newsstand":

"Camp notes: Droughns sidelined (http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news_room/news/arts/4476.0.html)"

And, here are a couple LOCAL reports off "the Gridiron Newsstand" about the ongoing efforts to get rookie wideout Braylon Edwards in camp and who's capitalizing on/during his absence:

"Browns continue talks to get Edwards in camp (http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/football/nfl/cleveland_browns/12309176.htm)"

"While Braylon sits, Bryant shines (http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=14983434&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46370&rfi=6)"
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 11th, 2005, 11:14pm
Currently from atop "The REAL Feed":

Edwards inks five-year contract with Browns (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN3973954.htm)
The Sports Network: NFL (11.08.2005 20:04)
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 23rd, 2005, 1:33am
From "The REAL Feed":

Browns send Andre' Davis to Patriots (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/08/22/2020.ap.fbn.patriots.browns.trade.2nd.ld.writethru.0541/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (22.08.2005 15:59)

This enhances Braylon Edwards's fantasy value more than Antonio Bryant's, I think.  I think this move was more so prompted by Edwards's performance than Bryant's.
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 25th, 2005, 1:05am
Here we go again...  Suggs down... and perhaps OUT for a while...  From "The REAL Feed":

Browns' Suggs sidelined again (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/08/24/2020.ap.fbn.browns.suggs.0389/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (24.08.2005 22:36)

Bump RB Reuben Droughns, relatively speaking, way up your draft boards.
Title: Re: Browns Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Sep 5th, 2005, 11:29pm
Talk about a "real deal" currently topping "The REAL Feed":

NFL campline: Rookie Frye named Browns' backup QB (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2005-09-05-campline_x.htm?csp=34)
USATODAY.com NFL - Top Stories (05.09.2005 21:52)
Charlie Frye is no longer an ordinary NFL rookie. He's a backup quarterback, too. Just one snap away from being Cleveland's starter. ...

This guy's really for real... and he's a hometown fan favorite.  With all due respect for Trent Dilfer, and I have a lot for him, mind you, as a workmanlike, underappreciated NFL QB, but this kid won't be backing him up for long.  Mark my words.  It doesn't take divination to see it... [smiley=zenmaster.gif]


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