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Title: Packers Offseason Report Post by captainpurple on Mar 4th, 2005, 1:10pm As much as it pains me to post this report... ;D Looks like the Packers are hemmoraging o-lineman. Both guards gone, furthering the speculation Brett Favre won't return. [smiley=dancin.gif] [smiley=headbanger.gif] [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by StegRock on Mar 10th, 2005, 6:53pm Well, not so fast there, cp... From "The REAL Feed": AP NewsBreak: Brett Favre will return to Packers in 2005 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/03/10/2020.ap.fbn.packers.favre.1st.ld.writethru.0706/index.html) SI.com: NFL (10.03.2005 17:57) Sorry, bro. [smiley=shrug.gif] ... ;) ... In other [smiley=tired.gif] Packers news, currently atop "The REAL Feed": Green Bay sends Sharper packing (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN3792209.htm) The Sports Network: NFL (10.03.2005 18:11) |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by captainpurple on Mar 10th, 2005, 11:43pm on 03/10/05 at 18:53:21, StegRock wrote:
[smiley=bawling.gif] [smiley=furious.gif] ... on 03/10/05 at 18:53:21, StegRock wrote:
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by StegRock on Jun 6th, 2005, 8:36pm Big news coming out of "The REAL Feed": Leader of the Pack: Favre says he could play past '05 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2077124&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233) ESPN: NFL (05.06.2005 22:19) QB pressures Walker to end holdout by Associated Press |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by StegRock on Jul 21st, 2005, 12:38am Javon Walker update... From "The REAL Feed": Rosenhaus: Walker won't play without new deal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2112634&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233) ESPN: NFL (20.07.2005 14:48) Agent says Walker won't be in camp by Associated PressJavon Walker will be a no-show at training camp next week unless the Green Bay Packers agree to give the Pro Bowl receiver a big pay raise or trade him, his agent said Wednesday. "The Packers say they aren't going to change their positio... How much of this do you guys think is posturing and how much "real"? |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by DB on Jul 21st, 2005, 9:02am I think it is a real threat. An agent like Rosenhaus would lose major credibility to bluff on something like that. After the year Walker had, he deserves more cash than a half mil. I love Farve, but it is a lot easier for him to tell someone about playing out a contract when he is making a huge amount and the break out guy is getting peanuts (relatively). :'( I have much less sympathy for TO, who was TO when he signed his deal. |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by prm on Jul 22nd, 2005, 10:17pm maybe you're right about that - but because i'm sick of agents - specifically this one - running the show, i'd love to see favre decide d. driver is gonna be the guy and forget walker - in the nfl, i think wrs are flavor of the week - and the qb decides that in most - not all - cases, but i think that's the case here...whomever favre favors -will be the flavor of the week in green bay...like my post on t.o. - you have to be a little more marvin harrison-esque to warrent a huge contract change - lots of one year wonders out there... prm... |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by StegRock on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:18pm Yikes! From "The REAL Feed": Packers shareholders: Don't give into Walker (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2118089&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233) ESPN: NFL (27.07.2005 15:24) Shareholders tell Packers GM to hold the line by Associated PressGREEN BAY, Wis. -- Green Bay Packers shareholders had a message for the team's top brass at their annual meeting Wednesday: Don't give any of that record revenue to Javon Walker. At least a dozen shareholders told general manage... Break out the bats! [smiley=waitinforu.gif] They're playing hardball up in the Bay! |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by Callie on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:21pm on 07/27/05 at 20:18:29, StegRock wrote:
But Walker will report to camp: http://www.jsonline.com/packer/news/jul05/344214.asp |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by Callie on Jul 27th, 2005, 8:25pm OK, the link wasn't great because it required sign-up. So here is the text: Walker decides to report to training camp 'Tell everybody I'm coming in,' Packers wide receiver says at airport By TOM SILVERSTEIN tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com Posted: July 27, 2005 Green Bay - Green Bay Packers wide receiver Javon Walker wasn't ready to discuss his reasons for arriving in town this evening for the official start of training camp, but he was willing to say this: "Tell them I'm coming in," Walker told a Journal Sentinel reporter as he arrived at the Green Bay airport shortly after 5 p.m. "You can tell them that." Up until Walker's arrival at Austin Straubel Airport, most in the Packers organization were under the impression he wasn't going to be present for the start of training camp. His agent, Drew Rosenhaus, told the Journal Sentinel a week ago that Walker would not be present when training camp started because he was unhappy with his contract. Thus, Walker arrived at the airport in the National Football League's smallest market virtually unnoticed. Wearing a white throwback football jersey with brown stripes on the sleeves, a No. 13 on the back and the name "Marino" embroidered across his shoulders, Walker walked through the airport alone, hired a taxi outside and, after retrieving his bags inside, took off. Even dressed in football garb, Walker, with a baseball cap pulled tightly over his eyes, seemed relatively inconspicuous and drew very little attention, in part because there were only a handful of people milling about the lower level of the airport. Before he left, Walker spoke briefly about his intention to report to camp, but declined to discuss his reasons in detail. Three times Walker was asked directly whether he intended to report to camp and each time he answered affirmatively. "Let them know I'm coming in," Walker said as he departed. Asked if there was anything else he wanted to say about his return, he said, "No, that's it. Just tell everybody I'm coming in." Veterans were due to report at camp at 7 p.m. for a team meeting. A team spokesman said that general manager Ted Thompson was unavailable for comment and wasn't planning on revealing which players were missing. The team isn't scheduled to practice again until Friday morning at 8:45, but the medical staff will be conducting physicals and the conditioning staff will be putting players through physical testing. Walker said he might address his situation on Thursday, but it's unclear whether the Packers will make him available to reporters. Rosenhaus, who was omnipresent in the media in the weeks leading up to training camp, did not return phone calls for a third straight day. The Packers have been steadfast in refusing to renegotiate Walker's contract, which has two years left on it, and there's no indication they did or said anything that would lead Walker to believe they would change their mind. If Walker doesn't report, the Packers have the right to fine him $6,000 a day, which over the course of training camp would result in the loss of roughly $180,000. Considering Walker is scheduled to make just $515,000 in base salary this season, he would be forfeiting a large chunk of his income. In addition, the Packers had the right to seek the return of half of Walker's $1.3 million option bonus paid in 2003, according to the provisions of his contract. The Packers could still seek that amount if they choose because Walker technically violated his contract when he skipped a mandatory minicamp in April. To this point, the Packers haven't given any indication what steps they would take with Walker other than to fine him. Walker made the Pro Bowl for the first time last season, leading the Packers with 89 receptions for 1,328 yards and 12 touchdowns. He hired Rosenhaus to represent him after the season in an attempt to get his contract renegotiated. Rosenhaus has received considerable national attention in recent weeks because two of his high-profile clients, Walker and Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens, both want new contracts even though their old ones have not expired. He also represents Packers nose tackle Grady Jackson, who signed with Rosenhaus several weeks ago in an attempt to renegotiate the final year of his two-year, $2.31 million contract. Rosenhaus first gained notoriety among Packers fans last off-season when he successfully forced the Packers' hand on trading cornerback Mike McKenzie. Complete coverage of this story will appear online later tonight and in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel in the morning |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by StegRock on Jul 31st, 2005, 1:55am Currently from atop "The REAL Feed": Packers sign Aaron Rodgers (http://www.fresnobee.com/24hour/sports/football/nfl/story/2595568p-11045747c.html) Fresno Bee: Football (31.07.2005 00:07) The Green Bay Packers signed quarterback AaronRodgers, the team's first round pick in the 2005 NFL draft. The Packers havenow inked all 11 of their selections from the April draft. Will Rodgers ever actually make a fantasy impact...??? Who knows? [smiley=idontknow.gif] From what I gather, he's (practically) totally got to re-learn how to throw the ball. In the NFL that pre-throw high ball position ain't gonna cut it. Among other reasons, this is one of the main ones why he fell so far in the NFL draft. Aaron, unfortunately because he seems like a hell of a nice kid, has NFL-Europe written all over him. ... We'll see... |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by StegRock on Aug 8th, 2005, 1:29am Currently from atop "The REAL Feed": Packers' Walker injures left hamstring at practice (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/08/07/2020.ap.fbn.packers.walker.0401/index.html) SI.com: NFL (07.08.2005 22:54) |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by StegRock on Aug 25th, 2005, 1:09am Currently from atop "The REAL Feed": Franks agrees to long-term deal with the Packers (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/08/24/2020.ap.fbn.packers.franks.4th.ld.writethru.0695/index.html) SI.com: NFL (24.08.2005 22:53) Anymore,... I don't know if this is a good thing. After a great season, does this just spell "hold-out"? It's like you need guys to perform just to the level of the contractual pay,... no worse, surely, but no better, too. [smiley=shrug.gif] The surreality/unreality of sports (and entertainment) economics (pop-culture economics) is so... "out of touch" (with the rest of us). [smiley=zenmaster.gif] |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by bgsgfan on Aug 25th, 2005, 2:02am on 08/25/05 at 01:09:52, StegRock wrote:
[smiley=shrug.gif]Isn't that exactly the way it should work in the real world? If we are worth more than what we are getting paid, we ask for a raise. If we aren't worth it, we get fired and go to the next place. One reason it doesn't work that way is the lack of information and/or measurement of worth. If I knew, and could prove, that I was the fifth best accountant in the world; and yet I was paid as if I was the 50th, I would renegotiate my contract... and if the opposite was true I'd expect to get canned or take a pay cut. Ummm, as a matter of fact I have signed contracts before and received raises above and beyond... and been canned. If your point was that the level of pay was out of touch with the rest of us, that I can agree with. [smiley=yes.gif] |
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Title: Re: Packers Offseason Report Post by StegRock on Aug 25th, 2005, 2:45am My point was surely that, bg. But, it was beyond that as well. The whole suggestion of determining "one's level" "begs the question", of course. But, beyond that, though, you know... I look at sheer capitalism with furrowed brow. My further point is that capitalism's emphasis on competition (as sole, or at least primary, incentive) and on money as God doesn't make (adequate and, moreover, adequately compassionate) room for all the roles that actually (have to) exist in this world. I mean who defines, "Who's the best?" Or, what is it that even goes into that evaluation? And, at every given moment is that the case? Forget year to year, should pay rates fluctuate from month to month, week to week, day to day, minute to minute, moment to moment? This type of reasoning can go on ad infinitum and ad nauseam. Logically speaking, the contract REnegotiations should never end,... and that is a "logic" (of capitalism) that needs to be dealt with (more on point, the "payment" should be in accordance with the agreed-upon and signed-on contract terms... for both sides mind you; that would end the infinite regress I lay out above; the problem is that bosses/the "haves" have been getting away with murder for too long). ... Everyone has "value". We need our garbage collected, probably one of the more valuable services/roles in the world with respect to human convenience and bottom-line need; moreover, we need our CHILDREN EDUCATED well, definitely one of the most important and valuable roles in the world requiring immense responsibility (as is attested to in the news day in and day out). Someone has to be the doctor, the bus driver, the garbage man, the lawyer, the teacher, etc., etc., to get more specific, even the "50th best accountant". Everyone has a gift; everyone has a role, and capitalism tends to "devalue" or "not honor" this "reality". The free market is okay, price/"monetary" value/cost to be determined by the market. However, the "bottom line" is that it is starting to be the case in modern capitalism that (the "principle" of) "fairness" itself is being determined by the market, and that is NOT right. ... Rankings are fun and all in fantasy football, but in LIFE they are NOT. Now, go put that in your pipe and smoke it... [smiley=pimpin.gif] ... or bong... [smiley=bonghit.gif]... ;) ... bg, I'm kind of wondering if you didn't set me up for this... [smiley=hmmmm.gif] It's been awhile since I've really strutted my philosophic stuff on "the Gridiron". |
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