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(Message started by: Philly on Mar 4^th, 2005, 2:29pm)

Title: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Mar 4^th, 2005, 2:29pm

Jeremiah Trotter is an Eagle for the next FIVE years! This is a huge relief to Eagles fans as he really helps their D stand up against the run.

http://ffpro.com/teamreports/eagles/eagles-footballinfoframes.htm

Also re-signed, RB Correll Buckhalter (2 years) and Hugh Douglas (1 year).

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by Philly on Mar 14^th, 2005, 9:16am

More news...

Eagles sign QB Mike McMahon to a 2-year deal. He'll replace Jeff Blake and will compete with Koy for the #2 spot (although Koy has an in as a top-notch holder - even if he is a lousy QB).

Eagles lose DE Derrick Burgess to the Raiders. The Eagles have a number of DEs, so this won't hurt too much. Kearse is still the stud there, and the Eagles expect former first round pick Jerome McDougle to break out next year. They also have ND Kalu returning from injury and Jamaal Green, who has shown some flashes. Hugh Douglas has next to nothing left, but will provide leadership in the lockerroom (plus plenty of laughs).

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by Philly on Mar 22^nd, 2005, 4:58pm

Eagles re-sign LB Keith Adams. Adams is a special teams ace and also played very well at the Will late in the season and in the playoffs when Mark Simoneau was injured. I think Adams has a good shot to start in 2005. He could rack up some nice tackle totals.

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by Philly on Mar 22^nd, 2005, 5:00pm

Eagles get FOUR compensatory picks for upcoming draft. As a result of losing Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor, Carlos Emmons, and Duce Staley to free agency, the Eagles gain a 5th, 6th, and two 7th round picks. That brings their total up to 13 draft picks for this year. The Eagles have shown a propensity to package picks to move up in the order. They are definitely in great shape to do that again this year.

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by Callie on Mar 23^rd, 2005, 10:46pm

"In announcing the opening weekend's national TV schedule, the league also placed the NFC champion Philadelphia Eagles on the road for the first Monday night game. Philadelphia will be at the Atlanta Falcons in a rematch of the NFC championship game as ABC begins its 36th season of MNF."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2018671

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 24^th, 2005, 7:54am

OK, the Eagles have signed a back up QB. I again am finding myself a little frustrated with what they are doing. Or more importantly, what they are NOT doing. I appreciate the fact they have a ton of draft choices, but I really think they should have made some more moves by now. A little more depth at O-line would be nice, heck, maybe even adding a #2 receiver would be good.

Have I missed something that the Eagles have done besides sign their own players? Have they upgraded the team somewhere that I missed?

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by Philly on Mar 24^th, 2005, 9:13am

Yes, it has been a fairly quiet off-season, but the key free agent that the Eagles HAD to sign was Jeremiah Trotter, and they did. The fact that they have a young backup QB with some starting experience is nice. I'm not going to rip them because they seem to know what they are doing, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt right now.

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by Callie on Apr 7^th, 2005, 4:12pm

Eagles | Owens' New Agent Seeking New Deal - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:40:29 -0700

Updating a previous report, Ashley McGeachy Fox, of the Philadelphia Inquirer, reports Drew Rosenhaus, the new agent for Philadelphia Eagles WR Terrell Owens, is seeking to rework the deal of his client, who signed a seven-year, $46 million contract just a year ago. "I think the issue here is I've had a good relationship with the Eagles," Rosenhaus said. "I've got some work for the team, and I plan on getting (a new deal) done." Rosenhaus plans to meet with Eagles president Joe Banner, possibly later this month, to discuss the situation. "This is something we initiated," Rosenhaus said. "It's nothing bad. It's only good. We think it's something that is going to resolve itself, and I intend to do my best to get it resolved." Rosenhaus did not rule out that Owens could miss some or all of the Eagles' off-season workouts and possibly training camp should a new deal not get done.

http://kffl.com/hotw/nfl (Scroll down, but it's all here.)

Ahhh. I needed that.
What is it, like 22 more weeks?

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by Philly on Apr 13^th, 2005, 11:36pm

For those conspiracy theorists out there. Where are the NFL headquarters? New York. Both times the NY Giants play the Eagles in 2005, the Eagles will have a short week to prepare. Just thought I'd throw it out there. Not that anyone actually believes this stuff. ::) :-X

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Apr 21^st, 2005, 12:59pm

OK--

Any chance the Eagles move some of those draft picks they have to get Shaun Alexander or Edge? I would love to see them make a move for one of those two. Price is right!!

Westbrook is still hanging out there. Any news on him?

And finally, what the dilly-o with Terrell? Eagles going to move him? Or are they going to play hardball with him? I am thinking they should probably do something or have NO wide receivers next year. Brutal!

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by Philly on Apr 21^st, 2005, 5:10pm

on 04/21/05 at 12:59:59, DirkDiggler wrote:

OK--

Any chance the Eagles move some of those draft picks they have to get Shaun Alexander or Edge? I would love to see them make a move for one of those two. Price is right!!

Doubtful. The Eagles will be happy with Westbrook and Buckhalter and whichever RB (Brandon Jacobs) they draft.

Quote:

Westbrook is still hanging out there. Any news on him?

He still hasn't signed the one-year tender, so he could conceivably skip the upcoming mini-camp. I think he will sign it though. Then the Eagles can extend his contract during the season. The Eagles have also been shopping Corey Simon around and one of the possible trades involved acquiring Travis Henry - so the Eagles are looking at other options.

Quote:

And finally, what the dilly-o with Terrell? Eagles going to move him? Or are they going to play hardball with him? I am thinking they should probably do something or have NO wide receivers next year. Brutal!

Eagles will play hardball and refuse to rework his deal. TO will whine a bit and sit out for part of training camp before finally coming in and playing. The issue is that TO's deal (which isn't a good one for him) was heavily backloaded. He did pretty well last year ($10 million or so), but this year he will only receive around $3 mill. (Ironically, that is pretty much on par with Marvin Harrison and Chad Johnson for 2005.) The deal then picks up again towards the end of the contract (when TO knows he won't be around). The Eagles will draft a WR on the first day of the draft and maybe add another sleeper later on.

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by Philly on Apr 21^st, 2005, 5:14pm

Eagles draft targets:

The Eagles will try to move up into the teens to acquire Khalif Barnes or Jammal Brown or another player they covet early. (Possible trade partners: Houston, Cincinnati, or San Diego). If not, and they stay put at 31 and 35, they'll hope to land Matt Jones and Luis Castillo. They may also trade down or trade one of those picks for a 1st rounder (plus) in 2006 (better draft for studs and Eagles won't have as many compensatory picks).

The Eagles are also targetting Vincent Jackson (WR) and Brandon Jacobs (RB) on the first day (or possibly early second for Jacobs).

The Eagles also love a S (Raymond Ventrone) from Villanova in the late rounds.

Title: Re: Eagles Off-season Report
Post by captainpurple on Apr 25^th, 2005, 12:43pm

on 04/21/05 at 17:10:21, Philly wrote:

This just in!!! The good-hearted people of Philadelphia ;D ::) will be conducting a food drive so TO can afford to feed his family. As we all know, it's getting tough to keep up with a meager 8 figure salary.

On top of that, no one likes take a pay cut! Think about having to get by with only a 7 figure salary! I know I'd certainly take a shot at the most beloved member of my company if I were forced to do that! (See TOs remarks about being tired in the SB)

Vikes offloaded their problem child to OakTown, lets see how long it takes for TO to piss off McNabb and be on his way out too.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Apr 25^th, 2005, 12:45pm

Raiders will be waiting! ;D

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 29^th, 2005, 10:14pm

T.O.'s mini-holdout and pot-shot at McNabb... From "The REAL Feed":

Mini-camp fire? T.O. passes on Eagles practice (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2049794&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (29.04.2005 15:56)
Absence presumed to be contract-related by ESPN.com news services

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 1^st, 2005, 12:27am

I'm kind of surprised that this happened the way it did. I don't think TO meant to disrespect McNabb with his words.... he just tends to speak first and think later (if at all). I was surprised that McNabb came back with both guns blazing. While he didn't mention names, he was very pointed in his comments.

I think this will be resolved outside of the public eye and that TO will grandstand a bit more going into the summer before realizing the Eagles won't cave in. Then he'll come into camp and some new controversy will arise.

As much as I love having a weapon like TO available to the Eagles, I think they can win without him and I think the team thinks that way too. The drafting of Reggie Brown was a not-too-subtle hint that TO needs to stop listening to his agent and start listening to Andy Reid.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 4^th, 2005, 9:40am

http://ffpro.com/teamreports/eagles/eagles-footballinfoframes.htm -- Updated news!

Don't be surprised if Terrell Owens misses more than just a mini-camp. The Eagles have already fined Owens for missing camp and, should they choose, could demand the return of nearly $1.8 million from Owens' signing bonus for a violation of his contract. The Eagles will not give in to Owens or his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. If Owens' ego gets the better of him, which is very possible, Owens could sit out training camp and part/all of the season.

Freddie Mitchell was told not to come to mini-camp. First off, the team is trying to trade him, so they don't want to risk an injury. Also, they don't want him poisoning the minds of the young receivers on the team. Regardless of the ability of the team to find a trade partner, Mitchell will be gone before long.

Keep a close eye on Greg Lewis. He's poised to take a bigger role in the offense. McNabb repeatedly looked his way and Lewis had as many receiving yards in 3 post-season games as he had in 16 regular season games. Lewis is fast enough to get behind defenders and is willing to go across the middle.

Todd Pinkston is a bit of an enigma. It was likely that his role would decrease some this season because of his fear of contact that was evident in more than one game last year, however he could benefit from the absence of Owens and Mitchell. Without those two, Pinkston likely becomes the #1 WR with Lewis as #2 and either rookie Reggie Brown or underachieving 3rd-year WR Billy McMullen as the #3.

Rookie WR Reggie Brown has all the tools to be a successful WR in the league, except experience (and sometimes self-motivation). Brown drew the praise of the coaching staff at the mini-camp, although some of that was more a shot at WRs not at camp than anything else.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on May 6^th, 2005, 3:14pm

Freddie Mitchell has FINALLY been released. It took long enough!

As an Eagles fan, I really had such high hopes for him. There was so much potential coming out of UCLA. Then he couldn't even beat out Thrash or Pinkston for a starting gig. He did have his moments, but ultimately his big mouth and big ego just got in the way.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 6^th, 2005, 4:15pm

I won't miss him at all. I look forward to seeing more of some of the younger guys (without the self-promoting egos and loud mouths) who will now get an opportunity to play.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 12^th, 2005, 3:51pm

The Eagles get a one-week paid vacation starting May 23rd!

The League was informed of an unspecified violation of the Collective Bargaining Agreement regarding off-season workouts. An unidentified Eagles player (hmm... could it be Owens? ;) ) informed the NFLPA of the issue and the Eagles were penalized (hardly) by preventing the players from working out at the NovaCare complex (or any other "team facility") for one week beginning on May 23rd.

Andy Reid said that the violation was unintentional and he will work to fix any problems.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 19^th, 2005, 9:23am

Brian Westbrook coming back into the fold?

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/11682719.htm

Westbrook fired his agent, Tony Agnone, and signed on with Fletcher Smith (who also advises Donovan McNabb and Correll Buckhalter). This makes it more likely that Westbrook will sign his one-year tender for $1.43 million in time to attend the June 1st mini-camp. Westbrook's previous agent told the team that Westbrook would not sign the tender until the June 15th deadline, keeping him out of another mini-camp.

http://ffpro.com/teamreports/eagles/eagles-footballinfoframes.htm -- Fantasy angle!

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 20^th, 2005, 10:57am

The Eagles signed defensive coordinator Jim Johnson to a 4-year deal yesterday. This should be a relief to Eagles team defense owners. The team has flourished on defense under his tutelage.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by SGT86Whitt on May 25^th, 2005, 9:47pm

I hope TO holds out for most of the preseason. I hope the Eagles stand by what they say and will not give TO more money. The Eagles stood by TO in the super bowl last year. Not making him sign any waivers incase of further injury. Maybe TO should do the same with the Eagles.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Callie on May 25^th, 2005, 9:53pm

Welcome to the Gridiron, Sgt. Whitt [smiley=welcome.gif]

I hope you're right. I think TO is just doing his agent's thing, and I think he'll be playing in Philly come September.

Football is just a business to some, but I also prefer those players, coaches, etc., who show some honor.

Good call.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on May 25^th, 2005, 10:13pm

Of course the question to ask is who is being greedy? Is it TO or is it the Eagles? To play devil's advocate here, let's look at it from TO's point of view...

He was injured and was told that there was no way he could return last season. TO worked hard and proved everyone wrong and had a very courageous and effective showing in the Super Bowl. Now he is asking that some of the money at the end of the contract be reshifted to balance out the overall contract - one which will see him paid very poorly this year for a player of his caliber. He is clearly one of the top 3 WRs in the game. If anyone cares to challenge that, I'm not listening because he is that good.

Now the Eagles are standing by their announcement that they do not re-do contracts. They did, however give Donovan McNabb and Andy Reid both extended contracts well before their previous ones expired. The Eagles also pride themselves on not paying players once they reach a certain age. They also pride themselves on being such a good team and still having money left under the cap.

So, which side is actually being greedy here?

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 26^th, 2005, 6:02pm

Nice pithy, insightful post, SGTWhitt! Hope to see MANY more, friend! [smiley=welcome.gif] to "the Gridiron"!

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 9^th, 2005, 10:12pm

Latest on Owens from "The REAL Feed":

Eagles still unsure if Owens will show for training camp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/06/09/2020.ap.fbn.eagles.contracts.0534/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (09.06.2005 18:04)

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Chumpzilla on Jun 10^th, 2005, 11:02pm

on 05/25/05 at 22:13:12, Philly wrote:

I believe the Eagles will re-negotiate new contracts on their terms... not being "strong-armed" by players or agents.

Your points are very well taken though. I am a huge Eagles fan and I think Owens is one of the best in the game. However, I would not re-negotiate the deal with him. He could have played out the last year of his contract in Philly without signing a new deal (people forget that he had one year remaining due to his old agent's screw-up - again not the Eagles fault). [smiley=ready4war.gif] A gun was not held to his head to sign that deal. I would make him play or pay (fines). I would not re-negotiate. Just my humble opinion!

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jun 13^th, 2005, 8:24am

I'm taking a wait and see approach. I won't be crushed if the Eagles hold tight and TO decides to sit it out. I also won't be upset if the Eagles blink and re-do the contract.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Chumpzilla on Jul 16^th, 2005, 11:53pm

Here's a bold prediction from Chumpzilla.... After watching the T.O. situation, I believe he will be in camp on time... without re-working his contract [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 20^th, 2005, 10:08am

Owens update from "The REAL Feed":

NFL camps FULL STORY »Owens says he hopes to be in an Eagles uniform (http://www.venturacountystar.com/vcs/nfl/article/0,1375,VCS_140_3933534,00.html)
Ventura County Star: NFL (20.07.2005 07:53)
Terrell Owens hasn't gotten so absorbed in his dispute with the Eagles that he hasn't noticed he might need to do a little fence-mending with their fan base, which welcomed him so enthusiastically a year ago. "I hope to see you here next year," Owens told a group of youth football campers at Ros...

[smiley=hmmmm.gif]

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 21^st, 2005, 12:32am

Owens update... From "The REAL Feed":

Fitty percent: T.O. undecided on reporting to Eagles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2112705&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (20.07.2005 17:11)
Owens agent says odds '50-50' he will report by Associated PressPHILADELPHIA -- Terrell Owens hasn't decided whether he will report to training camp on time because of a contract dispute with the Eagles, his agent said Wednesday. "The odds are 50-50," Drew Rosenhaus told The Associated Pres...

::)

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 22^nd, 2005, 10:25am

Terrell Owens update!!! It's gettin' REAL ugly. Owens is like [smiley=idontwanna.gif] and has his eyes on the [smiley=turkey.gif] Falcons. From "The REAL Feed":

Owens says trade or release from Eagles is possible (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN3971077.htm)
The Sports Network: NFL (22.07.2005 04:32)

T.O. willing to leave Philly, has sights set on Falcons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2113696&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (21.07.2005 22:03)
Owens: 'I don't really have to play for the Eagles' by ESPN.com news servicesAn Eagle could be taking flight.

As a war of words between Eagles president Joe Banner and Terrell Owens heats up, T.O. told CSS SportsNite in Atlanta on Thursday that he is willing to leave Philly if the team won't r...

I really think this is getting serious! Reggie Brown's value has to be going up.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jul 22^nd, 2005, 1:33pm

I don't have a link, but Falcons owner Arthur Blank has already said that there is no place for a player like To on the Falcons. Let's face it, TO has no trade value. I can't think of any teams who would be willing to take on either his salary or his ego. How many teams were interested a year ago when he was, for all intents and purposes, a free agent? The answer is two. Philadelphia and Baltimore. Now the Ravens signed Derrick Mason and drafted Mark Clayton.

Terrell continues to posture. The Eagles won't trade him. The Eagles show no signs of renegotiating with him. The Eagles know that they can just sit on his contract and TO can't do a thing about it except talk.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jul 22^nd, 2005, 1:36pm

on 07/22/05 at 13:33:33, Philly wrote:

I don't have a link...

Yes, I do.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-07222005-517520.html

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 22^nd, 2005, 1:55pm

on 07/22/05 at 13:36:03, Philly wrote:

Yes, I do.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-07222005-517520.html

[offtopic]A source on "the Gridiron Newsstand (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/newsstand.htm)", I see. [smiley=awwgee.gif] Anyway, nice find, Phil. [smiley=thumbsup.gif][/offtopic]

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Jul 22^nd, 2005, 6:58pm

"Terrell Owens says he will report to the Philadelphia Eagles training camp even though he is hinting that he would agree to a trade because of a contract dispute."

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/07/22/sports/s152916D37.DTL

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 22^nd, 2005, 8:43pm

With all due respect to the San Francisco Gate, follow the link below to see how a(nother) reliable (but this time) LOCAL source on "the Gridiron Newsstand" that covers the Eagles "spins" that latest report coming out:

http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/team-eagles.asp.

From the article:
"I'm not going to say that that's a definite decision," Rosenhaus said, one day after Owens appeared on Comcast Sports Southeast and proclaimed that he's prepared to leave the Eagles.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by prm on Jul 22^nd, 2005, 10:10pm

>:( - for what it's worth from a t.o. hater...the "i'll show up - but i won't be happy" thing is a non-issue from a business standpoint - and he's all business with this thing - because he's not being asked to be happy - just show his sorry @$$ up to work - again, if you perform consistently at a higher level than you are being paid - then you have a beef (maybe, if you not making a bagillion $$)...else, even a blind dog can find a bone and plenty of players have a ridiculous season followed by a not so ridiculous season - but then i'm the kind of guy who wouldn't take him even if he were free >:(...i say let him piss mcnabb off and not get any good looks this year - that'd be fun... ;D
prm...

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jul 24^th, 2005, 7:46am

It sounds like TO has backed off his stance that he won't play without a new contract a bit. It also sounds like Rosenhaus is not dictating what TO says/does, but, rather, reacting to it. A day after TO said he'd be there for the start of training camp, Rosenhaus came out and said that doesn't mean that TO is happy with the contract or even that he'll remain at camp for the duration.

I think both sides are trying to save face right now. TO is trying to save face with the team and the fans. Rosenhaus is trying to save face with, well, himself. He's still trying to stick to this hard line stance while the player he represents (most likely) realizes that the hard line stance is not prudent in this situation.

As for the QB deciding to throw or not to throw to a certain player, yes, it happens. In fact, it fairly obviously happened with McNabb and Freddie Mitchell. But it won't happen (to that extent) with Terrell Owens. Remember, the coach still calls the plays and if TO is the primary receiver and he's open and McNabb throws it somewhere else, he'll hear about it. Regardless of what TO says, McNabb doesn't run the team (completely)... Big Red is calling the shots.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jul 29^th, 2005, 11:05am

Bad news, Eagles fans...

DE Jerome McDougle was shot in the stomach and is in critical condition. Apparently a few teens approached him as he was getting into his car in Miami and tried to steal it before firing their weapons and running off.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PHI/8686934

McDougle was slated to start the season at DE and this should have been his break-through year after battling injuries each of his first two seasons.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Jul 29^th, 2005, 5:16pm

on 07/29/05 at 11:05:55, Philly wrote:

I hope he is allright.

That really sucks.....

And now what do the Eagles do.......

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by DUKE0313 on Jul 29^th, 2005, 5:34pm

McDougle has been upgraded to stable/good condition.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=31315

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 30^th, 2005, 9:51pm

While rookie WR Reggie Brown is signed and in camp, the Terrell Owens saga stands as follows... From "The REAL Feed":

McNabb says he has no issues with T.O. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/07/30/2020.ap.fbn.eagles.mcnabb.owens.0558/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (30.07.2005 17:12)

Corroboration and further details from LOCAL/OFFICIAL sources on "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNewsDetail.jsp?id=31477;

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/12265367.htm;

http://www.nj.com/eagles/times/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/112262462719070.xml&coll=5;

http://philadelphia.comcastsportsnet.com/view_content_box.asp?ID=12859.

Hmmmm... [smiley=stilldunno.gif]

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 1^st, 2005, 9:41am

For news throughout training camp, check out the Eagles Team Report here at the Gridiron...

http://ffpro.com/teamreports/eagles/eagles-footballinfoframes.htm

Three of the bigger stories from the opening of camp are there. The Terrell saga will be updated once the vets report.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by DB on Aug 1^st, 2005, 10:51am

Hey Philly, what's your take on Buckhalter? I took him late in the GBRFL. I don't think he will be a starter by any means, but can we expect him to be the #2 and get close to 50 yards per game or so (or more if Westbrook goes down)?

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 1^st, 2005, 12:20pm

Brian Westbrook is clearly the starter, and the Eagles will use him a lot out of the backfield and also split wide as a receiver.

Correll Buckhalter is 100% healthy right now (although he does have a bad history working against him). Remember back in 2003 (last time he was healthy)? He was part of a three-back rotation and saw, on average, about 5-10 carries a game. I'd expect him to see a little more work than he saw in 2003 (only because Duce Staley, an experienced back, was part of the mix then). He also had 8 TDs in 2003, which is a good target for him again this season. The Eagles O-line is a little more unsettled this year with Tra Thomas questionable and Jermane Mayberry gone. Shawn Andrews will be more effective than Mayberry was, but there's not a ton of experience in the O-line depth, so that bears watching.

I think you'll be quite pleased with Buck, as long as he stays healthy. I wouldn't count on 50 yards a game from him. He'll be very up and down. One game he'll get a couple carries for 10 yards and another he'll get 10 carries for 100 yards. If BWB goes down, then it's another story (although the Eagles are a passing team, so the running game would be neglected even more without BWB).

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 4^th, 2005, 6:14pm

T.O. update... From "The REAL Feed":

Silent' T.O. still making noise in Eagles' camp (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/eagles/2005-08-03-owens-silence_x.htm?csp=34)
USATODAY.com NFL - Top Stories (03.08.2005 21:56)
Terrell Owens' thoughts are left to the imagination because, except for a brief interview with former NFL wide receiver Irving ...

Key quote: "'If it wasn't for my family ... I wouldn't be here,' Owens told WPVI-TV. 'They said to stay strong throughout everything.'"

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 4^th, 2005, 9:09pm

UH-OH!!! AND, THIS IS A BIG UH-OH... Terrell pulls up lame with crotch pain... From "The REAL Feed":

Reid says Owens isn't faking injury (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/08/04/2020.ap.fbn.nfl.camps.rdp.0784/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (04.08.2005 18:45)

For further LOCAL info on T.O.'s injury from "the Gridiron Newsstand", go here:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/.

And, here is some LOCAL stuff off "the Gridiron Newsstand" regarding Owens and McNabb's relationship:

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-08042005-523362.html;

http://www.mcall.com/sports/football/eagles/all-eaglesaug04,0,4830488.story?coll=all-sportseagles-hed.

Ya know... People, including Owens himself, can say all they want about "it's all business"... "my/his relationship with Donovan and the organization won't affect what happens on the field", but T.O.'s "disgruntled" last year in San Fran, when he was at odds with the organization and making trouble with/for Jeff Garcia, was one of his poorist. He wasn't that great that year fantasy-wise. ... This could be his last year in Philly... [smiley=bendover.gif] (Sorry, bro) ;) ... Savvy fantasy footballers always learn from history and, well, T.O. has a "history"... to learn from, fellas.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 5^th, 2005, 1:16pm

No links yet...

Eagles suffered a couple more setbacks this morning in training camp. RB Correll Buckhalter left practice with a knee issue. He walked off the practice field and the early diagnosis is just swelling of the knee. He'll probably rest it and be OK in a few days.

The more significant injury is to WR Todd Pinkston. He was running a deep route and got his legs tangled with CB Matt Ware. Pinkston went down awkwardly and was unable to leave the field under his own power. He'll have an MRI this afternoon. Early speculation was an injury to the Achilles tendon, which could be quite serious.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 5^th, 2005, 1:27pm

Hmmmm... While I never root for injuries,... in light of said circumstances, I suppose Reggie Brown's fantasy stock is on the rise,... and I'm a little invested in him.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 5^th, 2005, 1:30pm

Here's the fantasy implications...

http://ffpro.com/teamreports/eagles/eagles-footballinfoframes.htm

In fact, Steg, you'll read there that I advised owners to bump Greg Lewis and Reggie Brown up their draft boards a bit. Brown has been very impressive at camp (from all reports) and is becoming a fan favorite. I'll be at training camp on Monday and will report my impressions. I'm going to give Ryan Moats a call and see if I can get some time with him up there for an interview. I'll try to hook up with Reggie Brown too.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 5^th, 2005, 1:42pm

on 08/05/05 at 13:30:04, Philly wrote:

I have to admit, Philster, while your reports are impeccable overall, I feel that your takes on Owens and Buckhalter in this latest write-up of yours, given their current respective "dicey" circumstances, Owens with his contract sitch and sour history with the 49ers and QB Jeff Garcia (which I made reference to in my second-to-last prior post) and Buckhalter with his rich injury history, are "optimistic" to say the least, illustrative of just a bit of homerism. There's a definite (circumstantially implicit) downside to both of these situations.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Aug 5^th, 2005, 6:19pm

It's official. Pinkston out for the season:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2005-08-05-roundup_x.htm

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 5^th, 2005, 9:27pm

on 08/05/05 at 13:42:28, StegRock wrote:

C'mon Steg... that's twice that you've comapred the TO situation this season to his situation his last season in San Fran, but you're generalizing the scenario and overlooking a key component that even a neophyte football fan would see... The Eagles are a team coming off a Super Bowl appearance with every indication of returning. The 49ers a couple years ago were already a team in a very sharp decline. How can you assume that just because TO had issues with his team (not an elite one, mind you) previously and his production was less than stellar that the same situation is likely with an elite team? Could a decline happen? Sure. But you're almost indicating that it will happen because he is unhappy again. I personally feel that the team surrounding him will have more of an effect on his stats.

As for Buckhalter, I'll admit that I weighed the likelihood of injury less than I should have. All the reports that I had seen indicated that both knees were as strong as they ever had been and that he was very impressive in minicamps and the early part of training camp. And, despite his minor setback today, I still stand by my prediction (a low #3 RB, mind you) for him.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 5^th, 2005, 9:31pm

on 08/05/05 at 18:19:41, Callie wrote:

It's official. Pinkston out for the season:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2005-08-05-roundup_x.htm

I can't honestly say I'm upset about this. While Pinkston did make a nice deep threat, his refusal to catch the ball in traffic was more than irritating. I really like Greg Lewis as a receiver. He has the speed to be a deep threat and has shown a willingness to give up his body to make a catch. And Reggie Brown will get more work now -- he's the real deal at WR folks.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Aug 6^th, 2005, 5:14pm

Apparently this is Westbrook's side of the hold-out story:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/12316492.htm

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 7^th, 2005, 10:56pm

From "The REAL Feed":

T.O. back at Eagles practice, skips autograph session (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2128226&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (07.08.2005 17:53)
Owens missed workouts Friday and Saturday by Associated PressBETHLEHEM, Pa. -- Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens returned to practice Sunday after missing the last two days with inflammation in his left groin.Owens participated in both the morning and afternoon sessions. After wear...

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 8^th, 2005, 2:16pm

From "The REAL Feed":

Report: Westbrook ends holdout, reports to Eagles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2128540&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (08.08.2005 07:07)
Westbrook arrives, but still wants long-term deal by ESPN.com news servicesThe Eagles finally have another key element of their offense in camp.Pro Bowl running back Brian Westbrook arrived at training camp to end his seven-day holdout on Sunday night, a team source told the Philadelphia Daily N...

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by bgsgfan on Aug 8^th, 2005, 2:27pm

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

[smiley=clap.gif]

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 8^th, 2005, 9:15pm

TO was a no-show for Monday's practice. I didn't even see him on the sidelines -- I don't think he was there unless he was hiding very well.

Westbrook looked very impressive, not the least bit rusty. Ryan Moats also looked great until he got creamed by three defenders and suffered a mild concussion. After that, only Westbrook and Reno Mahe were available at halfback. (Buckhalter still resting a bruised knee, Bruce Perry and Eric McCoo also sitting out with injuries.)

At WR, Greg Lewis looked very solid. He was beating defenders deep and was getting open across the middle. Billy McMullen made some very nice catches and seems to have made some nice strides. Reggie Brown did not do a whole lot to impress today, although word is that he has been very good so far.

Tra Thomas is going to miss all of training camp while on blood thinners to fight a blood clot in his leg. In the interim, rookie Todd Herremans (OT from Saginaw Valley State) is running with the first team. He looked like he belonged there in practice today. Shawn Andrews looks like he could use some more practice and conditioning coming off his broken leg.

TE LJ Smith looked good for the most part, but he still dropped a couple easy passes.

On defense, the interior line looked impressive in drills. They stopped most of the runs up the middle. Jevon Kearse got into the backfield on a number of occasions, however he seemed to be laboring during much of the practice.

None of the LBs really stood out. Dhani Jones made a very nice play in pass coverage.

The secondary was not too impressive, however I doubt this is anything to worry about.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Aug 10^th, 2005, 4:09pm

T.O. has a fight with Andy Reid and leaves camp :o

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/sports/football/12350280.htm

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Aug 10^th, 2005, 9:10pm

In case you haven't seen it, here is the T.O. update. Owens has been suspended by the team for a week. Here is some of his side of the story:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/breaking_news/12350617.htm

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Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Aug 12^th, 2005, 10:24am

Boy, when things go wrong.....

Now they're taking a closer look at Buckhalter's knee after a hit from a helmet on Friday.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/99-08112005-526312.html

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Aug 13^th, 2005, 8:00pm

For anyone out there who hasn't had the chance to hear this - NBC's Giants pre-game show just said that FREDDIE MITCHELL is playing Kissenger diplomacy trying to broker a peace between T.O. and the Eagles! They say T.O. and Mitchell have been talking every day. I could not find a link.

;D Amazing. ;D

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 16^th, 2005, 4:21am

SO, TO's like... [smiley=idontwanna.gif] I think this is bound only to get uglier. ... How's Reggie Brown lookin'? What do yous think of Reggie Brown's fantasy value at this point?

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 16^th, 2005, 12:41pm

I guess you didn't catch the game on MNF. Reggie Brown looked very good. He ran good routes and got open. Made some nice catches (nothing too difficult). Finished with a 5 for 52 line in a little over a quarter. Greg Lewis and Billy McMullen both looked solid too.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 16^th, 2005, 5:08pm

An open letter to TO:

http://www.foryouto.com/pages/1/index.htm

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by prm on Aug 17^th, 2005, 6:13am

:-X...guess i'm not the only one listening to the rumormill...(hope this link works)...

http://www.packersnews.com/archives/news/pack_22211322.shtml

...i'm sure there are some interesting options - but drew sure was singin' a different tune day before yesterday...i guess we'll find out here directly...

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 17^th, 2005, 6:44am

Terrell Owens goes back to practice today. Before the practice starts, he has a sit-down where the team's expectations will be addressed. It will be interesting to see how long things last until he is suspended again.

As for the rumors, the Eagles have always had a strong trade partner in the Packers. I'm sure the Eagles would love to add Ferguson. I think one of the hold-ups to a deal is that the Eagles are shopping Corey Simon and his contract demands may be scaring teams off.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by junkyardjake on Aug 17^th, 2005, 6:54am

Robert Ferguson= A P.O.S

You have to wonder why he hasn't been able to beat out Donald Driver for the past couple years. He really seems to have the physical skills, but can't seem to stay in one piece and has no focus.

If the Eagles make a Owens for Ferguson trade, I assume it would include the Packers 1st round draft picks for the next five years.

Andre Davis would be a much better trade.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 17^th, 2005, 9:58am

Any trades for WRs would not include Terrell Owens. The Eagles will either play him or suspend him. He will not be traded or cut.

I like Andre Davis, but he is nothing more than another Todd Pinkston - a guy with straight-line speed to send on fly routes.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by junkyardjake on Aug 17^th, 2005, 11:16am

Philly, I know for a fact that you know as well as anyone how much Todd Pinkston sucks and I agree that Andre Davis has done virtually nothing to distinguish himself since he entered the league in 2002, but he also hasn't been given any real opportunity. Plus for the past couple years he had the 'formidable' combination of Tim Couch/Kelly Holcomb throwing to him and despite his situation, he's shown at least some ability to get open in the endzone.

Todd 'Flagpole' Pinkston has been in the league 6 years, with the same QB, the same coach in the same offensive system and has been consistently unproductive. I guess he hasn't been a starter all 6 years, but I know he has been for at least the last three. In any event, the bottom line from last year is 1) when you are the starting receiver opposite Terrell Owens 2) With Donovan McNabb throwing to you 3) And you catch 36 passes and 1 TD all year long 4) You officially suck.

That said it's unfortunate that he got hurt this preseason, because it seemed like he was really working hard. I think most of the problem with Pinkston is his physical weight; at 180 pounds you can be fast all day long but it doesn't do you any good if you get beat up at the line scrimmage like the opposing cornerback just caught you stealing his car stereo.

So anyway, I think Davis might be a huge welcome improvement over Pinkston, it will be interesting to see if they get him, because the Browns are definitely dealing from the sound of it.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 18^th, 2005, 7:22am

Don't get me wrong... I like Andre Davis as an upgrade over Pinkston. While you pegged Pinky's problem as his size (6'1" and 110 pounds), the other part is his fear. He short-armed or flat-out gave up on at least three catchable balls last year because he heard footsteps. I haven't seen a ton of Davis, but I've never seen him play in fear.

Davis is not a good route runner and he also drops catchable balls. Other than that, he's an outstanding receiver. He'd definitely put up better numbers than Pinky did last year, but he wouldn't be anything that a fantasy owner would be interested in as an Eagle.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 20^th, 2005, 2:56am

Phil, could you elaborate a little further (than you did in your recent FF-specific Eagles Report (http://www.ffpro.com/teamreports/eagles/eagles-footballinfoframes.htm)) about Reggie Brown? You refer to him as a #4 fantasy wideout (therein). How has he been looking (under the "local" microscope)?

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by bgsgfan on Aug 20^th, 2005, 12:58pm

From the Eagles-Steelers preseason game, I can tell you that Reggie Brown looked like the best receiver on the field - for either team. Of course, the Steelers 1st team had very few chances with the way the game went, but that shouldn't take anything away from Brown.

He is a rookie, and I don't see him doing anything incredible as a rook (not only being a rookie, but I think that is a tough offense for a player to pick up), but he has the makings of a stud for the long haul (based solely on that one pre-season game).

Addition:

I also think McNabb will do just fine without Owens, if it comes to that. Brown, Lewis, LJ Smith, Westbrook, and McMullen will give him a very capable group of receivers to spread the ball around to. Both for FF and as far as actual performance, losing TO will not be that big of a deal. Once again, this is mainly based on one preseason game.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 21^st, 2005, 9:42am

I concur with bgsgfan's sentiments. Reggie Brown looks like the real deal. He is really applying himself to learn the offense and runs very good routes. He has good hands and also the speed to get deep. I still stand by the fact that he is a #4 FF WR this season. Terrell Owens will likely play, making Brown the third receiver, so he'll get chances, but not enough to be anything more than a bye-week guy or short-term injury fill-in for your fantasy team. But his long-range potential is obvious. TO will not be an Eagle in 2006 and it is likely that Brown could become the #1 option at wideout a year from now.

He played in the game against the Ravens, but did not have a catch. The Eagles offense wasn't on the field a lot and when they were, they really focused on the running game.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by prm on Aug 21^st, 2005, 9:47am

...so far, can't tell that they're missin' owens very much...

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 24^th, 2005, 8:42am

BREAKING NEWS

Correll Buckhalter will undergo season-ending surgery today on his injured knee. The Eagles are now left with Brian Westbrook, Reno Mahe, Ryan Moats, and Bruce Perry at RB. Look for the Eagles to sign another, larger back in the near future. They are interested in Lamar Gordon or Sammy Morris who are both in Miami (one will likely be traded or cut). Tom Heckert also mentioned that Dorsey Levens and Troy Hambrick are available and being evaluated.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 25^th, 2005, 12:45am

I hate to say it, but I think Buck's football career is over. Sad. He had such promise.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 25^th, 2005, 9:54am

on 08/25/05 at 00:45:13, StegRock wrote:

I hate to say it, but I think Buck's football career is over. Sad. He had such promise.

Yep. He signed a two-year deal in the off-season and I questioned the logic in that decision on the part of the Eagles. He got no interest on the market as an RFA and would have been cheap had any team wanted to claim him. I don't remember what his signing bonus was, but I'm sure it was small enough for the Eagles to eat in 2006.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 28^th, 2005, 9:06pm

Eagles Remove Tag from Corey Simon
http://eagles.scout.com/2/430349.html

What the Hell? The Eagles play tough, but then let their players go? This is not the first time. I just don;t understand. Hell, they could of at least tried to get something for him in a trade......

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 28^th, 2005, 9:13pm

on 08/28/05 at 21:06:42, DirkDiggler wrote:

I just don;t understand. Hell, they could of at least tried to get something for him in a trade......

They've been trying for a long time and have had more than one deal ready to go, but Simon needed a contract and was demanding too much from any of the Eagles' intended trade partners. Let's face it, Simon was a liability for about 1/2 the season last year because he was in terrible shape after sitting out most of training camp. Now the Eagles have good depth and production from the DL and Simon isn't needed. I think the Eagles did the right thing here.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 4^th, 2005, 1:52pm

OK... Eagles cuts include some surprises. They let Hugh Douglas go, which was the biggest surprise. Not only was he a valuable backup in a short position, he was a big-time leader. Also released was FB Jon Ritchie. Apparently Ritchie wasn't back to his pre-injury self where he was easily one of the top blocking/receiving FBs in the league.

The Eagles DE position isn't very deep now. They've got Kearse and Kalu starting, with Juqua Thomas and rookie Trent Cole as backups (they also parted ways with Jamaal Green). Jerome McDougle will be back mid-season (hopefully), but he hasn't played to a level that inspires any confidence thus far. I'm a little worried about the DE position now. I'd like to see them add someone else who can immediately step in and contribute.

FB should be fine as Josh Parry performed well last year in Ritchie's stead.

WR is also another interesting position. The Birds grabbed Darnerian McCants (who I love, by the way), but I'm not sure where he fits in right now. TO is still #1 -- but after that everything is up in the air.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by junkyardjake on Sep 4^th, 2005, 2:04pm

They also just picked up Lamar Gordon. He should be a better short yardage replacement for Buckhalter than Ryan Moats. Moats of course is still valuable as the probable #2, because he really fits the Eagle system in the same way that Westbrook does. (i.e. small, shifty, good receiver).

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by KillerKingSting on Sep 4^th, 2005, 2:32pm

Gordon was a SWEET pick up for the birdies!!!!! I was just about to drop him into waiver land. Thanks for this report!

Awesome!

Also, I had heard big time rumors of Najeh Davenport going to Philly instead.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 6^th, 2005, 9:02am

Sorry for the delayed news. I was out most of the weekend and when I wasn't, I was preparing for my money league's draft.

Gordon and McCants are nice additions to the Eagles offense, although I really have no idea how either one will be used. The Eagles aren't showing their hands on this one much. If I find anything useful, I'll be sure to post it.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 8^th, 2005, 11:06am

Week One analysis is up...

http://ffpro.com/teamreports/eagles/eagles-footballinfoframes.htm

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Sep 8^th, 2005, 5:48pm

The offseason is almost over with. How about this tail-end report rolling off "The REAL Feed"? ...

Westbrook cuts off contract extension talks with Eagles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2155644&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (08.09.2005 15:28)
Westbrook cuts off contract extension talks with Eagles by Associated PressPHILADELPHIA -- Pro Bowl running back Brian Westbrook cut off contract talks with the Philadelphia Eagles on Thursday because the two sides are far apart on a long-term extension. "Me and my agent have told the Eagles...

This is probably more of a next offseason report than a this offseason report, huh? Surely affects keeper leaguers, though, this season.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jan 5^th, 2006, 10:43am

Time to crank this baby up again (unfortunately).

The Eagles had some concerns about losing Director of Pro Personnel, Tom Heckert Jr., a real up and comer who has received a lot of attention, so they gave him a raise and named him GM, although he won't really have any different duties as Andy Reid will still have final say in all of those matters.

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Jon Runyan is a UFA following this season and will test the free agent market. All things being equal (or close to equal, anyway), he would really prefer to stay with Philadelphia, but if someone throws a lot of money at him, he'll jump. Runyan has been very consistent and is one of the stalwarts of the line (except for the two games against Michael Strahan every year).

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Look for the Eagles to be more active in the off-season this year than they were last year (when they only added Mike McMahon).

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Finally, Eagles offensive coordinator Brad Childress has received a lot of attention from NFL teams searching for a head coach. I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up in Green Bay.

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by Chumpzilla on Jan 5^th, 2006, 1:58pm

on 01/05/06 at 10:43:00, Philly wrote:

Jon Runyan is a UFA following this season and will test the free agent market. All things being equal (or close to equal, anyway), he would really prefer to stay with Philadelphia, but if someone throws a lot of money at him, he'll jump. Runyan has been very consistent and is one of the stalwarts of the line (except for the two games against Michael Strahan every year).

Sorry Jeff, not sure what games you're watching but this really isn't the case. ;D The media, especially knuckle-heads like Aikman and Joe Buck [smiley=dick.jpg], blow this way out of proportion and is quick to point out if Runyan gets beat by Strahan. Fact is, he's done well versus Strahan over the last two years (two sacks this year vs. PHI and one wasn't vs. Runyan)!

Title: Re: Eagles Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jan 5^th, 2006, 4:06pm

on 01/05/06 at 10:43:00, Philly wrote:

Time to crank this baby up again (unfortunately).

[offtopic]First off,... Jeff,... RIGHT IDEA! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] This is around the time when we need to switch from "In-season Report" threads to "Offseason Report" threads. The transition from "in-season" to "offseason" is always MUCH more awkward than from "offseason" to "in-season", however, because, unlike the latter, the post-season and, furthermore, the many leagues that extend into the post-season and the post-season contest that runs through the Pro Bowl, which we have going on here, make the line of demarcation between the two unclear or make for multiple lines of demarcation, however you want to look at it. I also do not like the idea of having both (active) "in-season" and (active) "offseason" reports going on at the same time (I parenthetically put in "active" because it's a different thing to bump up an "old" offseason thread during the season or vice-versa to point something out that was posted there; it's fine to do that). This was worsened by all of the head-coach departures right at the end of the regular season with Tice's, (strong word of) Martz's (at least) and Vermeil's (retirement) coming before regular season games were finished and my subsequent quick decision to include posts about them on the "In-season Report" threads, which kind of committed me to continue doing so, at least, in the immediate future. However, after further contemplation, [smiley=thinking.gif] in the spirit of making the demarcation line between "in-season" and "offseason" a bit straight and bold, I thought it best to contextualize the decision, the context being "the goings on at FantasyFootballer.com". So, since at least two major things going on at FantasyFootballer.com involve the Pro Bowl, the TOTAL Post-seaon Contest and the GBRFLeagues, it seems like that makes for the reasonable, though not perfect, line of demarcation between in-season and offseason. I mean... (that does NOT change the fact that) your report above, Jeff, is SURELY an offseason report, NOT an in-season report. BUT, anything that happens to an Eagles' player playing in this year's Pro Bowl between the end of the regular season and the conclusion of the Prol Bowl is,... well,... kind of still in-season, at least as regards the two aforementioned major goings on here on this site. For that matter, though, it's not really the NFL or the networks that cover the games that consider the end of the regular season to be the end of the season (taken as a whole) (though it is in fact the end of the season for 20 teams,... but not necessarily each and every player of all 20 of those teams). It's fantasy football that "traditionally" has (hell, I've heard of fantasy leagues for which the NFL season, for all of their fantasy-football intents and purposes, ends as early as Week 13 [smiley=no.gif]). It seems that in the "real" world, the season is not really reflected back upon until the Super Bowl is over and network coverage seems even to "extend" (in both senses of the word: lengthen and give/grant) that "feeling of looking back" to the Pro Bowl as it's not until the NFL's all-star game has been played that the season has really come to its absolute, indubitable end. Given all this, that is where I am comfortable having the line of demarcation between "in-season" and "offseason" be here on "the Gridiron". So, where does that leave your post above, Jeff? That's a tough question to answer... It lies squarely in the penumbra. You've got to compromise. You can a) hold such posts off until after the Pro Bowl (not what I'd advise,... but worth mentioning because in some circumstance that may be the best move), b) include such posts on the "In-season Report" thread, perhaps, with the notation that "this is what you all should plan on seeing talked about more as the offseason unfolds" (this is probably the advisable route more often than not), or c) in your case, since you are our Eagles' correspondent (this is obviously not an option for everyone), include such material in your "FF-specific Eagles Report" (and (if you want to) announce it (here in "the Red Zone", do so) either on your "Eagles Weekly FF-specific Team Analyses" thread or on the "Eagles In-season" report thread). ALL OF THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, we do NOT roll over "In-season Report" and "Offseason Report" threads. Every new offseason makes for a new set of "Offseason Report" threads (as it did last year) as does every new season make for a new set of "In-season Report" threads (as it will later this year). So, in any event, your post there should have been the first of the NEW ('06) "Eagles Offseason Report" thread (though I am ultimately glad you did not do that in light of EVERYTHING else :)).

SO, let this thread drop, please, UNLESS you have a comment on or question about this digression! Thank you! [smiley=bow.gif][/offtopic]