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(Message started by: Callie on Mar 12^th, 2005, 7:23pm)

Title: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Mar 12^th, 2005, 7:23pm

Lions sign Garcia:

http://lions.scout.com/2/359571.html

Jeff & Mooch together again ;)

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 1^st, 2005, 3:39pm

Funny... This is where I thought he should have gone a year or two ago (before Kevin Jones arrived). From "The REAL Feed (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/newsstand.htm)":

NFL ROUNDUP: Lions sign backup running back White
FREEP: Football (01.04.2005 06:07)
The Lions signed free agent running back Jamel White, the team announced Thursday. Terms of the deal were not released. White, 5-feet-9, 208 pounds, has rushed for 1,406 yards on 376 carries in five seasons. He also has 170 receptions. White, 27, will likely compete for a third-string o...

He does make a nice backup to Jones. If Jones were to get injured, I think White could make some noise in this offense.

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 22^nd, 2005, 5:45pm

Anybody reading anything into the Lions' recent signing of WR Kevin Johnson, especially as it might relate to Charles Rogers and his health status/injury history?

From "The REAL Feed":

Lions sign WR Kevin Johnson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/04/22/2020.ap.fbn.lions.johnson.185/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (22.04.2005 13:21)

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Apr 22^nd, 2005, 5:48pm

I think it's just what the article implied. Depth in case of injuries. They have experienced the need.

Sorry for ANOTHER double post, but this makes sense:

"10. Detroit -- After going offense in the past five drafts, the Lions are thrilled to have linebacker Derrick Johnson staring them down at no. 10. Johnson is being compared to Ray Lewis, enough said."

http://www.bgnews.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/04/22/4269489a3f37d

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Apr 23^rd, 2005, 3:54pm

on 04/22/05 at 17:45:04, StegRock wrote:

C'mon... the Lions need another WR like they need a hole in the head. (Err, what was that? They drafted who???) Umm... nevermind.

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by RestoretheRoar on Jun 6^th, 2005, 2:55pm

NEW DETROIT LIONS REPORT UP!!

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 20^th, 2005, 5:21pm

How true? From "The REAL Feed":

Harrington's time for Lions is now (http://www.staronline.com/vcs/nfl/article/0,1375,VCS_140_3867277,00.html)
Ventura County Star: NFL (19.06.2005 12:44)
Steve Mariucci was hired by the Detroit Lions ostensibly to become their head coach in 2003. In reality, he was hired to bring the franchise some credibility. The Michigan native coached the San Francisco 49ers to four playoff berths, two division titles and an NFC Championship Game in his six s...

This is Joey's "Tim Couch" year, I'll call it... Will he make or break???

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jun 21^st, 2005, 9:02am

I, for one, think he'll make it. Let's face it, he really has been working with a subpar cast. Last year was the first he had a top-flight receiver in tow (Roy Williams) as Charles Rogers has been injured since jump and the others he's been working with are the likes of Scotty Anderson and Az-Zahir Hakim. He never had a solid running game until they drafted Kevin Jones last season. The defense had been awful, making Joey play catch up with a less-than-stellar supporting cast. Not to mention the Offensive Coordinator roulette he's been playing.

Now, barring the inevitable injury to Rogers, he has three big fast WRs to throw to. He has a very solid TE in Pollard and a running game with KJ. The offensive line will be an issue, but might surprise. And the defense has improved (on paper at least).

So, a lot of the negativity over the past few years has been falling on the QB when he didn't have the support he needed. What good is a hammer if you don't have any nails?

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by prm on Jun 27^th, 2005, 4:50pm

[smiley=hmmmm.gif] - so is KJ worth starter money (and status)...???
prm...

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Jun 27^th, 2005, 6:11pm

Absolutely. Based purely on his production at the end of the 2004 season he is. I think he's a top 10 back when all is said and done in 2005.

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Jun 27^th, 2005, 8:51pm

on 06/27/05 at 18:11:44, Philly wrote:

Absolutely. Based purely on his production at the end of the 2004 season he is. I think he's a top 10 back when all is said and done in 2005.

Agreed. And on top of that, K. Jones has been going in the second round in most of the drafts & mocks I've seen - making him available at a terrific value. I did a live draft on Friday and got him as my RB2! (Although I wouldn't expect him to last that long for long.)

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 7^th, 2005, 11:39am

More on the pressure-cooker known as Joey Harrington's quarterbacking amidst an ever-increasing star-stunted cast. From "The REAL Feed":

Clayton: Heating up (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2101524&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (06.07.2005 12:01)
More talent could be curse for Harrington by John ClaytonOf all the quarterbacks on the hot seat heading into 2005, Joey Harrington is the one doing the most sweating.Harrington finds his career at a crossroads. He has started 44 games, winning only 14. After three seasons, his completion percen...

I know Philly's argument.... But, having all these weapons at his disposal makes for a real double-edged sword... Is this guy really set up for failure? One must ask this question when weighing Harrington's fantasy value!!!

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Jul 7^th, 2005, 12:00pm

on 07/07/05 at 11:39:39, StegRock wrote:

But, having all these weapons at his disposal makes for a real double-edged sword... Is this guy really set up for failure? One must ask this question when weighing Harrington's fantasy value!!!

Mooch is set up - with Garcia already an expert at Mooch's version of the WCO. The hook could come out quickly if there's any slipping. I say draft the weapons. Someone will be throwing to them. ;D

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by RestoretheRoar on Jul 7^th, 2005, 1:15pm

Joey will have at the Max 3 games to perform, which could be unfair. Jones, Roy Williams, and Rogers have been on the field for a combined 1 quarter last year. Could take more than that for those 3 plus pollard and mike williams to get comfortable with the new offense and Joey. Garica could be a good sleeper pick late in drafts

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by mutantseabass on Jul 21^st, 2005, 10:34am

Being a Lions homer ill give you my view on the Lions. Ill try and keep my cornbread unbuttered for this. ;D

Ill start with the Qb situation, Harrington will be on short leash here. Harrington if he has worked on his footwork will have no problems running this offence. Every year he has improved and if you look at his stats when Kevin Jones was fully utilized he was a decent Qb and thats all you can ask out of him. Ted Tollner was brought in as O.C. to help tailor make this offence into something that utilizes Joeys skills. Tollner is much more liberal than Mooch in play calling. Hopefully getting rid of the dink and dunk 5 yard passes that plagued the Lions last year.

Joeys stats when Jones was utilized.

1363 yards, 6tds. Hardly staggering numbers one would think with an average of 194 yards per game. But you have to take into consideration that his Wrs consisted of Roy Williams playing injured, Az Hakim who also was injured and missed games, Tai Streets and Reggie Swinton. When you are a young Qb and have a rookiw wr as your go to guy and three other Wrs who are #3 recievers at best your going to have problems. The tight end position for the Lions was nearly non exsistant last year. The entire recieving crew has been upgraded and i will get into that later.
My predicition for Harrington this year will be 3,100 yards and 24 tds.

I will post my thoughts on the rest of the O later.

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 30^th, 2005, 9:38pm

From "The REAL Feed (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/newsstand.htm)":

Rogers, Bailey among those back in pads during Lions camp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/football/nfl/wires/07/30/2020.ap.fbn.lions.camp.0468/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (30.07.2005 14:03)

More details on this from a LOCAL source available on "the Gridiron Newsstand (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/newsstand.htm)":

http://www.mlive.com/sportsflash/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-13/1122742100211840.xml&storylist=michigannfl.

On the pressure-cooker Joey's in... from "The REAL Feed":

Harrington has successful mentor in Garcia (http://www.detnews.com/2005/lions/0507/30/sport-264261.htm)
Detroit Lions (30.07.2005 01:58)
ALLEN PARK, Mich. -- As he prepares for his fourth NFL season, Lions quarterback Joey Harrington is likely to turn to a new cohort for some professional guidance.

More LOCAL coverage of this from "the Gridiron Newsstand":

http://www.detnews.com/2005/lions/0507/30/sport-264273.htm.

Here's what's on "the Gridiron Newsstand" regarding Mike Williams:

http://www.mlive.com/lions/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1122631802191500.xml&coll=1.

ENJOY, fantasy fellaz! [smiley=lickinmychops.gif]

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 1^st, 2005, 5:45pm

Rookie wideout Mike Williams gets himself in the Lions' fold. From "The REAL Feed":

Detroit reaches deal with first-round pick Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2121532&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233)
ESPN: NFL (01.08.2005 08:53)
Williams agrees to deal with Lions by John ClaytonThe Detroit Lions have agreed to a deal with wide receiver Mike Williams of Southern California, the team's first-round pick.Terms of the contract are for five years at $13.5 million, $10.5 million of which is guaranteed
Williams led the Trojans ...

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 9^th, 2005, 3:03am

Lions FF-specific Player Rankings are up. Check 'em out:

http://www.ffpro.com/teamreports/lions/lions-footballinfoframes.htm.

Great job, George! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Sep 2^nd, 2005, 9:12pm

Garcia To Miss Several Weeks With Broken Fibula!!!!

http://lions.scout.com/2/432988.html

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 6^th, 2005, 4:02pm

on 09/02/05 at 21:12:45, Callie wrote:

Garcia To Miss Several Weeks With Broken Fibula!!!!

http://lions.scout.com/2/432988.html

I've read in a few places that Garcia could miss the entire season... I'll copy a link next time I see one.

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Sep 6^th, 2005, 4:07pm

I read earlier today that Garcia will not need surgery and will be out 6 to 8 weeks. I couldn't find that link, so I dug up another one:

http://www.detnews.com/2005/lions/0509/06/01-305258.htm

Title: Re: Lions Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Sep 6^th, 2005, 4:14pm

on 09/06/05 at 16:02:54, Philly wrote:

I've read in a few places that Garcia could miss the entire season... I'll copy a link next time I see one.

Same paper... but the third paragraph of this story indicates the possibility of a missed season...

http://www.detnews.com/2005/lions/0509/06/D01-304774.htm