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(Message started by: rickgpin on Oct 6^th, 2005, 9:47pm)

Title: running back help - week 9
Post by rickgpin on Oct 6^th, 2005, 9:47pm

i am 2-2 in my league and have to get a win this week. i need your help with my lineup.

wr
horn vs packers
jurevicius vs rams
curtis vs seahawks
rwilliams vs ravens
galloway vs jets

pick 3

def
denver vs redskins
buffalo vs dolphins

thanks for your input! [smiley=hungry.gif]

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by StegRock on Oct 6^th, 2005, 10:08pm

I would go with Horn (it looks like he'll play), Galloway and Jurevicius (he's the next guy on the totem pole). At D, I would go with Denver AT HOME. Good luck... [smiley=stpat.gif] claiming a winning record!

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 6^th, 2005, 11:17pm

I agree [smiley=yes.gif] with STEG on starting Horn, Galloway, and Jurevicious...but I like Miami's DEF against Buffalo. I don't think Holcombe getting the starting nod for the Bills will be a huge boost in offensive output. Start Miami with confidence!! [smiley=machinegun.gif]

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by StegRock on Oct 7^th, 2005, 12:23am

I ultimately think BOTH Denver AND Miami are good plays this week. I'm just siding with the home team, and factoring in the uncertainty that comes with Buffalo's QB switch.

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by Callie on Oct 7^th, 2005, 6:10pm

on 10/06/05 at 23:17:07, MordecaiCourage wrote:

MIA D is a good start, but he owns BUF! ;D

(Don't tell BroncoSteg, but this Raiderette is starting the Denver D in one of her leagues this week.... :-X)

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by rickgpin on Oct 7^th, 2005, 6:24pm

my defenses to start are either denver or buffalo. can you give it one more shot?

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by Callie on Oct 7^th, 2005, 6:54pm

All I have seen is that Horn is a game time decision and still listed as questionable. If he's playing, I'd play him.

After that, in this order:

Galloway, definitely. Clayton will have Ty Law all over him, so Galloway benefits.
Jurevicius is no lock, but he should be the first look for Hass against a bad secondary.
Curtis should do well with Bulger throwing everything including the kitchen sink.
I wouldn't play R. Williams, since BAL is getting back to form.

And like I said, the Denver D. See the Bronco FF Specific Team Report.

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by rickgpin on Oct 7^th, 2005, 6:59pm

one more question?

kicker
reed vs chargers
vanderjagt vs 49ers

i think that will about cover it! thanks for your input.

[smiley=greedy.gif] got a feeling this is the week my team breaks out.

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by Callie on Oct 7^th, 2005, 7:06pm

I'd play Vanderjagt. By a lot. Instead of pretty much anybody.

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by StegRock on Oct 7^th, 2005, 7:55pm

on 10/07/05 at 19:06:50, Callie wrote:

I'd play Vanderjagt. By a lot. Instead of pretty much anybody.

[smiley=bullseye.gif]

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by rickgpin on Oct 7^th, 2005, 11:37pm

i'm surprised eveyone is picking jurevicius instead of curtis. what is up with that? [smiley=annoyed.gif]
it may be moot if horn doesn't go but still....

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by Callie on Oct 7^th, 2005, 11:56pm

"Darrell Jackson and Bobby Engram, the Seahawks' starting wide receivers and the two most productive so far this season, will not make the trip to St. Louis, coach Mike Holmgren said following today's practice."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2002546884_webseahawks07.html

Jackson IS going to have the knee surgery (a four week recovery time, at best). So, Joe will start, and try to pick up TE Jerramy Stevens!

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 8^th, 2005, 12:04am

on 10/07/05 at 23:37:21, rickgpin wrote:

i'm surprised eveyone is picking jurevicius instead of curtis. what is up with that? [smiley=annoyed.gif]
it may be moot if horn doesn't go but still....

[smiley=deadhorse.gif] I just like Jurevicious over Curtis rick....I guess it's just a gut feeling I get and not really any specific factoid about either receiver!! Jurevicious will see the majority of balls in Seattle.....Curtis will be fighting to get them thrown his way(he will get his share mind you), but Holt, Mac, Looker, Jackson, and Faulk will all get them too...WHO gets the most after Holt? I think it will be Mac! [smiley=fireman.gif]

As for defense..I'd go with Denver!! Good luck to ya' [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by StegRock on Oct 8^th, 2005, 2:20am

on 10/08/05 at 00:04:53, MordecaiCourage wrote:

[smiley=bullseye.gif]

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by prm on Oct 8^th, 2005, 8:46am

i agree, raining balls is good - but the more buckets you have to catch'em...joe is a big fish in a little pond right now - i think the odds are in his favor also...
prm...

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by BarnabyWilde on Oct 8^th, 2005, 9:44am

I would go with Horn, Galloway and Jurevicius. Then, I go with Vanderjagt and also the Bronco D.

Good luck!

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by rickgpin on Oct 11^th, 2005, 10:39pm

i started jurevicious, curtis, and galloway and picked up my third victory. [smiley=cheers.gif]

tough matchup this week as i try to seperate from the middle of the pack.

wr - pick 3
horn vs falcons
jurevicius vs texans
curtis at colts
williamson at bears
galloway vs dolphins

def
denver vs patirots
or
chiefs vs redskins
or
seahawks vs texans

kicker
vanderjagt vs rams
or
reed vs jaguars

thanks for your help!

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by rickgpin on Oct 13^th, 2005, 8:05pm

I HAD TO PUSH THIS BACK TO THE TOP TO GET SOME HELP!

i tried recycling this thread in hopes of saving the planet but i am hoping it got overlooked.

a little help with my lineup this week if you don't mind.

thanks. [smiley=worship.gif]

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by prm on Oct 13^th, 2005, 9:50pm

?.?.?...doesn't look like you need much help - you made a fairly independent decision last week and did well...go for it...
prm...

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 14^th, 2005, 12:56am

My two cents [smiley=twocents.gif]

Horn, Jurevicius, and Galloway (watch the injury report for Horn)

Seahawks "D"

Vanderjagt

Title: Re: help with starting lineup
Post by StegRock on Oct 14^th, 2005, 1:19am

[offtopic]First off, thanks for your efforts recycling this thread, rick. [smiley=bow.gif] Nothing worse than a forum where threads fly off page one in an hour or less.[/offtopic]

As for your lineup,...

MC's pretty much right... [smiley=bullseye.gif]

I would, however, use Reed over Vanderjagt... in a coin flip... best three out of five... ;)

Title: Re: help with starting lineup - week 7
Post by rickgpin on Oct 20^th, 2005, 6:31pm

another week stuck at 500. rats!

i've got slim pickings and need your help

pick 1 at wr
lelie at giants
az hakim at rams

pick 2 at rb
lewis at bears
taylor at bears
perry vs steelers
r williams vs chiefs

pick 1 defense
chiefs at miami
bills at raiders

thanks for your input!
[smiley=behindball.gif]

Title: Re: help with starting lineup - week 7
Post by StegRock on Oct 20^th, 2005, 7:37pm

I can't believe I'm going to say this, BUT at WR I'd actually use Hakim over Lelie. The Giants secondary gives fits to speedsters, read Holt in Week Four and Glenn in Week Six. Mr. Lelie is NOT going to break the trend. What kind of free-agent pickins you got to choose from??? Hakim is a pretty shitty choice...

At RB, I'd actually roll my dice on Perry and Williams. I think the Baltimore is in for a rough game on the ground. Of course, if you don't have the stomach for that. I'd put Lewis in over... flipping [smiley=twocents.gif] coin)... Perry. Although Taylor's style of running, ability to get to the outside, may be conducive to better success against the Bears, what I don't have the stomach for, vis-a-vis the above, is benching a guy I expected to be a top-five back coming into the season for his backup.

As for the D's you have, I don't like either choice. Coin flip... [smiley=twocents.gif] I'd go with KC. The Bills can't be trusted. KC, I think, is the better team.

Good luck! [smiley=shammy.gif]

Title: Re: help with starting lineup - week 7
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 20^th, 2005, 7:39pm

on 10/20/05 at 18:31:34, rickgpin wrote:

Dang Rick you do have some slim pickins this week!!

Go with Hakim against the Rams. He has put up a couple good weeks as second fiddle, but Stallworth is questionable which may make Az the #1 look.

At RB you are hurting [smiley=stars.gif] a bit my friend...of the 4 you presented only Lewis is a starter, but Taylor has been outdoing him with less carries. I think I'd still go with Jamal by attrition. I would also go with either Perry, as he looks better than Rudi and may out produce him as well or Ricky [smiley=bonghit.gif] in a coin flip. He has to do better than last week...right!!?? He should see about 3 - 5 passes and should run the ball close to 10 times I would think. Kind of a toss up there!

At defense I'd roll with the Bills. Good Luck
[smiley=footballsmiley.gif]

BTW.......my ASTROS kicked some Cardinal ASS!

Title: Re: help with starting lineup - week 7
Post by Callie on Oct 20^th, 2005, 8:50pm

For Lelie, the Giants give up fantasy points to WRs, and they are an injured, lousey pass D. I say Lelie breaks out this week. For Hakim, Horn and Stallworth are injured, and the Rams give up TDs to WRs. But the Saints are having their problems. I would rate Lelie over Hakim.

Jamal Lewis has been slumping, and he is playing the Chicago D. Chester Taylor is the backup, and should have the shorter end of the RBBC stick, if it comes to that. And he is playing the Chicago D, too. As for Chris Perry, Rudi gets most of it, and they are playing the Steeler rush D forchrissakes. As for Ricky Williams, the Chiefs have given up only a few scores to RBs so far, and Ricky will probably take a second seat again to Ronnie. If the Dolphins are smart, they will pass against the lousey KC pass D. Tough call at RB. Guess I would go with Lewis and Ricky, since I doubt if C. Taylor and Perry will get much. Who knows. Saban could do some surprises. He needs to, and these things have been happening all over the league this year. (This is a pure gamble, BTW.)

If you want my choice between C. Taylor and Perry, I would go with Perry over Taylor. More likely to get a shot at a score.

D - DEFINITELY Bills. The Chiefs will do their O thing against MIA, and the Raiders are a question mark against the Bills this week.

Title: Re: help with starting lineup - week 7
Post by lumber2121 on Oct 21^st, 2005, 1:49pm

Bills on defense

Lelie and Hakim are a coin flip, but I would go with Lelie. The Giants do give up fantasy numbers to recievers.

I would go with Lewis and Perry in the hopes that Perry will break a couple of pass plays or sneak into the endzone from 20 plus.

Title: Re: help with starting lineup - week 8
Post by rickgpin on Oct 29^th, 2005, 11:21am

as my playoff hopes slide [smiley=downthetubes.gif], i desperately need to get back to .500. i think i lead the league in most players on roster that are questionable this week. need your input at wr and rb this week.

wr - pick 3
horn vs miami
hakim vs miami
curtis vs jaguars
galloway at 49ers

the real choice is between horn and hakim. both are questionable. i could also pick up bryant, evans, or someone similar.

rb - pick 2
c williams at 49ers
dillon vs bills
lewis at steelers
jones at rams
pass vs bills
henry vs raiders

i am planning to go with c williams and dillon but both are questionable.

rest of starting lineup is palmer, gates, feeley, and carolina's defense.

thanks for your input!

Title: Re: help with starting lineup - week 8
Post by Oakland4life on Oct 29^th, 2005, 11:37am

Well, it looks like to me that the real question here is Horn or Hakim.

You know you want too ::)

Title: Re: help with starting lineup - week 8
Post by StegRock on Oct 29^th, 2005, 6:06pm

I say you split the difference... Go with one of your two questionable guys, Williams or Dillon, whichever one you like more. Assuming last-minute word tomorrow is that they are both playing, I would go with Williams. And, then, I'd go with the guy in the opposite position, Jones, who is likely to be playing in place of the questionable Taylor. Again, though, this is assuming that the last-minute word will be that Taylor is not playing. Bottom line, you need to follow this right up until the 11th hour. But, if you need/want to get a preliminary lineup in a.s.a.p., I would go with Williams because a) I think he has a better chance of playing than Dillon and b) I like his matchup more (though New England's is good too, mind you) and Jones because I don't think Taylor is going to hit the field or even if he does he'll be limited and, again, I like his matchup. Good luck! [smiley=shammy.gif]

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by rickgpin on Nov 2^nd, 2005, 9:47pm

big win last week and i am one game out of first at 4-4. ;D

choose 2 rbs
lewis vs bengals
dillon vs colts
pass vs colts
brown at browns
henry at browns
c williams vs panthers

i am leaning toward starting dillon and christine brown.

next i need to drop 1 or 2 running backs to pick up a backup qb and more depth at wr for a bye week issue.

what do you think? ?.?.?

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 2^nd, 2005, 10:43pm

I would go with Chris brown and Cadillac for the starts. Brown has looked real good the last few weeks even when he's playing hurt. And cadillac will be leaned on much more this week because of their QB issues.

I would drop Travis Henry and Hakim if I were you. I dropped Hakim last week myself and I was glad I did. Horn isn't even listed on the injury report this week and Donte' is coming around now. So that means that he is back to #3 which means very little in the Saints offense.

O4L

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by StegRock on Nov 2^nd, 2005, 10:43pm

Your current intuition is right... [smiley=bullseye.gif] I would go with Dillon and Brown. As to your appended question, I think it is safe to drop Pass. Dillon's back. As for a second, it would have to be Henry, but I wouldn't feel too good about doing that, especially having Brown on your roster. But, you just canNOT drop any of the others... regardless of Lewis's disappointing campaign heretofore and the fact that Carnell's tires may just be spent for this season, you can't just drop them. ... Good luck! [smiley=stpat.gif]

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by lumber2121 on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 12:01pm

I do not trust Brown. Therefore, I would not get rid of Henry and I would start Williams. The Bucs had a tough go against the 49ers and suspect that they will want to get the running game going early this week.

It really is a toss up between Brown and Williams. However, Dillon is the best of the lot.

Not only is Dillon back, but Pass has a hamstring injury. Dump him if you need to pick up a WR or QB.

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 12:30pm

Well, I figued I would give a more in depth view of my pick.

Last week, Brown had 97 yds rushing and 1 TD against Oakland, which not a powerhouse defense. But usually pretty good against the run. He was hurt in ARI the week before, so didn't do much there. 3 weeks ago he rushed for 83 yds and 2 TD's agains CIN. Which has a much better defense, but they are a little suspect against the run.

Cleveland is not even suspect against the run. They are just GAWD awfull. Allowing 135 yds rushing per game and 3 TD's. Brown didn't seem hurt at all last week against OAK, and the Titans don't even have a WR to throw too except for a couple of rookies. McNair is questionable (but will probably play) and he threw to his TE's all day.

I'm sure that Cleveland will recognize that, and most likely spend more time trying to shut down their TE's then worry about Chris Brown.

Corey Dillon is visabley hurt, and doesn't have a backup. Indy's defense is a whole lot better against the run and playing on Monday night. (which always steps up the play) Dwight Freeney is a machine. There isn't a lineman on the Patriots offense that can stop him, let alone slow him down.

So, there's my thinkn' behind it.

O4L

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by MordecaiCourage on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 12:33pm

[smiley=strollin.gif] Run with Dillon and Brown this week!! As for who to dump....I'd drop Pass and Henry of the group you've shown. [smiley=footballsmiley.gif]

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by lumber2121 on Nov 4^th, 2005, 9:52am

O4L, you lay out a very good argument. However, I think Cadiallac Williamsn deserves some serious consideration. Gruden stated that Williams performance in Thursday's practice was the best news Gruden had received all week. Apparently Williams looked really good.

I have a tendancy to undervalue Brown. Dillon, Brown and Williams are all solid options.

O4L's points are very strong and I have to say that I now lean towards Brown and Dillon. I change my vote to Brown over Williams.

The good news is that, barring injury, you have three solid starters from here on out.

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by kec6906 on Nov 4^th, 2005, 4:28pm

1. Chris Brown
2. Lewis
3. Cadillac Williams (injury ?)

i would go in that order. Brown & Lewis both have good matchups against bad run defenses and Cadillac still has injury ?'s.

Dillon and Pass are both injured (NE even brought in RB's this week) and might be limited or not play. Henry still backup unless Brown goes down.

as far as having to drop someone next week, i would say Henry and Pass should go first.

good luck. KC. Go Eagles!! [smiley=eagle.gif] [smiley=eagle.gif]

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by rickgpin on Nov 4^th, 2005, 6:52pm

thanks for all the input! [smiley=worship.gif] i appreciate the input.

dillon has me worried. will they just plug in someone else and not give dillon the carries? lewis is improving slightly, but am waiting for a little more of a break out to trust him. decisions, decisions...

[smiley=options.gif]

thanks again!

Title: Re: running back help - week 9
Post by prm on Nov 4^th, 2005, 8:05pm

...i probably shouldn't even reply - but my hatred of chris brown exceeds even common etiquette...so in other words, you may disregard this...this will be the week everyone has faith in him & he'll get a hangnail or some other booboo & sit out for the rest of the game...damn - i hate that guy...he'll NEVER do well enough for me to not consider him the ultimate >~$$y...i hope that doesn't happen for you - but i'm ready to say "i told you so"...good luck,
prm...