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Title: who to start? - week 12
Post by kec6906 on Oct 15^th, 2005, 7:22pm

12 team/3 division league tied for 2nd in 4 team division at 6-5 (2 games out of 1st w/ 2 games left and i hold the tiebreaker over the team i'm tied with but only 1/2 game above last) just need to hold on to 2nd place to get into playoffs. this week i play 3rd place team in another division but look at his lineup - P Manning, L Johnson, Portis, Shockey, Jurevicius, Dante Hall, Vinatieri, NYJ DEF. not too worried i guess, cause last week i beat the team with LT2, Bulger, C Johnson, Galloway, Key Johnson. And next week i get my division leader 8-3 who has an easy matchup this week. so i need your almighty Gridiron advice once again.

scoring: longer TD = more pts, also pts for rec/rush attempts, rec/rush yds, longer FG = more pts

A. need 1 - all have good matchups, tough call, in order of liking:

1. McNair vs SF
2. Favre @ PHI
3. E Manning @ SEA

B. need 3 - like i said before WW empty and i got screwed by my top gun TO, in order of liking:

1. Curtis @ HOU (best matchup - will Martin get him the ball again?)
2. Evans vs CAR (Losman favors Evans - good matchup at home if Losman starts)
3. Edwards @ MIN (which QB starting? - but has been getting more play lately)
4. Chambers @ OAK (no QB or real offense?)
5. Clayton vs CHI (big bust and very bad matchup)

**I almost picked up Andre Davis (NE) last week and played him (60 yd TD catch) cause Troy Brown & Givens were out inj and other than Branch, Davis was the other starting option. well, Brown & Givens havent practiced yet this week - if they are out again would u try Davis as 3rd WR???? he plays @ weak KC pass D.

C. need 1 - longer FG's = more pts (50 yd = 11 pts), but FG's obviously are better than XP's (2 pts)

1. Elam @ DAL (hurt but played fine last week and says he'll play thurs) or
2. Bironas vs SF (will he get any FG tries?)

D. need 1

1. ATL @ DET or
2. CHI @ TB

{OBFFL - 2004 Champs}: my other starters are: RB - Dunn & Jordan, IDP - Freeney, HC - Coughlin

thanks for the advice. KC.

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by rickgpin on Oct 15^th, 2005, 11:25pm

Holt is a must start. i would go with bell over brown. bell is at home and should get the opportunities. brown may lose carries to ricky.

i like baltimore's defense at home. i think the titans offense has more life than browns.

moore and benson. same reason as above to skip on brown this week.

lastly...

eli manning has played well all season. got to ride him til he faulters. mcnair will play well but total points should go to manning.

i would not start michael clayton until he catches more than one pass per game.

tough call on defense. both are solid so i don't think you can go wrong with either. i think the vikings could totally blow up this week. the saints may do the same but i have a feeling they will score points for some reason. i would go with the bears on defense.

hope this helps and good luck! [smiley=booya.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 15^th, 2005, 11:33pm

on 10/15/05 at 23:25:34, rickgpin wrote:

I completely agree with rick!! I think he was right on the mark[smiley=bullseye.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by StegRock on Oct 16^th, 2005, 4:34am

I too agree with rick... almost 100%. In L2, I would go with Brown over Moore. I think the Vikes will end up having to abandon the running game early and they won't have done much against a tough Bears run D. I see the Dolphins-Bucs game being a goodie. I think the run will be a big part of this game... on both sides, but especially for the Dolphins. There should still be enough touches to go around. I see Brown still getting at least 15 overall, which will probably be about what Moore gets, at most. Good luck! [smiley=stpat.gif]

Title: Re: who to start? -- WK 7
Post by kec6906 on Oct 21^st, 2005, 10:51pm

week 7, still looking for answers but not as complicated as usual.

so far i did not do any trades (re: my other post about trade) and prob wont - at least this weekend.

scoring: longer TD's = more pts, (+ pts for yds, recpt, rushes)

**options are in the order i'm thinking**

1. need 1 QB

Favre @ MIN (he hasn't played well there, but he is still a stud coming off a bye and i think Minny is a bad team - could be a shootout)
Eli Manning vs DEN (been much better at home)
McNair @ ARI (not even really an option with my other choices)

2. need 1 WR to go with Owens & Chambers:

Kevin Curtis vs NO
Lee Evans @ OAK

3. need 1 defense:

CHI VS BAL
ATL vs NYJ

thanks for the advice. KC. Go Eagles!! [smiley=eagle.gif] [smiley=eagle.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by prm on Oct 21^st, 2005, 11:25pm

i like:
eli @ denver - i know it sounds crazy, but i think he'll fare better than those before him...
hard to say on wr - first response says curtis even though they'll spread it around - because it should be a hight scoring game...evans is probably due to get his chance - but based on advice given to me here, moulds and mcgahee are lookin' like security blankets for holcombe...
i think atlanta has more opportunity for points (turnovers) in their game than chi...good luck mate,
prm...

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by StegRock on Oct 22^nd, 2005, 12:45am

I too would go with Eli. Who in God's name knows what the hell is going to happen in Minny this weekend? As per my Broncos report (http://www.ffpro.com/teamreports/broncos/broncos-footballinfoframes.htm), the Broncos are very susceptible to the deep ball. The only drawback would be if Plaxico doesn't end up playing. I'd still take my chances.

At WR, again, along with prm, I would go with Curtis. I think he explained it well enough.

At D/ST, however, I would go with Chicago. Baltimore stinks and they're good. Atlanta gave up 31 to and did squat against New Orleans last week, for goodness sake.

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 22^nd, 2005, 2:49pm

I actually like Favre [smiley=cheesehead.gif] here instead of Eli. People like to talk about his poor play in dome games for some reason. Check the stats out for his last 3 domed stadium appearances and you will find he has done above average in them!! Minnesota sucks the root and Favre is a rested stud. You may get an INT or two, but I think he throws for 2+ scores!! As far as the others go....Curtis and Chicago get my two thumbs up here!!! [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] good luck amigo! [smiley=fireman.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by Callie on Oct 22^nd, 2005, 8:20pm

Well, I'm about to confuse you even more.

Eli plays better at home and is playing the Bronco secondary. Tiki has a bad matchup, so Eli will be needing to pass. But Favre is healthy and does very well against the Vikes' pass rush. (QB to TE from GB). And his run game is finally back. I think Favre goes absolutely CRAZY against the Vikes.

At WR, I would play Evans. Moulds has to deal with CWood all afternoon. Curtis is looking at a back-up QB. I'd play Evans.

You have some nice options at D, but I would definitely go with CHI against the BAL O.

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by kec6906 on Oct 23^rd, 2005, 10:06am

thanks for the advice guys.

still undecided about my 3rd WR. seems to be a tossup between Evans and Curtis.

Bruce is out again, Holt has been downgraded to questionable, so Curtis seems to be a really good option.

Buf is playing Oak terrible pass defense but Moulds has been getting all the looks. is it Evans turn this week?

going with:

QB: Favre
RB: Dunn, Jordan
WR: TO, Curtis, Chambers (already scored 21 pts for me Fri night)
K: Bironas
IDP: Freeney
DEF: CHI

KC. Go Eagles!! [smiley=eagle.gif] [smiley=eagle.gif]

Title: Re: who to start? Week 8
Post by kec6906 on Oct 26^th, 2005, 9:37pm

hey guys, another week another win. now 4-3 (with 3 wins in a row tied for 2nd in division). thanks for last weeks advice. i ended blowing out my opponent with the highest score in the league all season and vaulted into 1st place in total scoring for the season.

^{Favre (27), Dunn (18), Jordan (51), Chambers (21), Curtis (13), Owens (8), Bironas (16), CHI (11), Freeney (8), Head Coach Coughlin (5) = Total (178)}

This week i'm leaving for Denver on Friday 12 noon so i need some early advice. ;D
First Eagles road trip - can't wait! Go Eagles!! [smiley=eagle.gif]

anyway, since i never made a trade so i only have one true starting RB this week so here are my lineup options (scoring - longer TDs = more pts):

QB: (need 1)
1. Favre @ CIN
2. E.Manning vs WAS
3. McNair vs OAK

RB: (need 2)
1. Jordan @ TEN ** definite starter**
2. Henry vs OAK (prob my only option to play)
3. Gore vs TB (nice run last wk, still the backup but could get in late when they are getting killed like last week)

WR: (need 3)
1. TO @ DEN **definite starter**
2. Chambers @ NO
3. Michael Clayton @ SF (injury?)
4. Curtis vs JAX
5. Edwards @ HOU (injury?)
6. Evans @ NE

K: Bironas
DEF: CHI
Head Coach: Coughlin

***IDP: Freeney (*bye*) - have to grab someone off waivers, how would u rank these guys this week? (scoring: sack or INT = 5 pts, forced fumble = 3 pts, 5 tackles = 1 pt, def TD's 1-50 yds = 12 pts, 51+ yds = 15 pts):

DE/DT (go for sacks, fumbles)

Rice (TB) @ SF (great matchup)
Rucker (CAR) vs MIN
Spicer or Hayward (JAX) @ STL
Howard (NO) vs MIA

or go Safety and hope for a pick TD:

Will Allen (TB) @ SF
Roy Williams (DAL) vs ARI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

^{this is what my opponents team (my brother) looks like this week. He is only 1-6 but his lineup actually kinda scares me this week (well his QB and RB's).

QB: McNabb @ DEN, Delhomme vs MIN (start 1)
RB: C Brown vs OAK, R Brown @ NO, S Jackson vs JAX (start 2)
WR: Houshman vs GB, Kennison @ SD, Lelie vs PHI, G Lewis @ DEN, Randle El vs BAL (start 3)
K: Rackers @ DAL, Feely vs WAS (start 1)
DEF: PIT vs BAL, NYG vs WAS (start 1)
Headcoach: DEN, MIN (start 1)}

sorry so long. any advice is appreciated. thanks.
KC. Go Eagles!! [smiley=eagle.gif] [smiley=eagle.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by rickgpin on Oct 26^th, 2005, 9:47pm

QB: (need 1)
1. Favre @ CIN
2. E.Manning vs WAS
3. McNair vs OAK

RB: (need 2)
1. Jordan @ TEN ** definite starter**
2. Henry vs OAK (prob my only option to play)
3. Gore vs TB (nice run last wk, still the backup but could get in late when they are getting killed like last week)

WR: (need 3)
1. TO @ DEN **definite starter**
2. Chambers @ NO
3. Michael Clayton @ SF (injury?)
4. Curtis vs JAX
5. Edwards @ HOU (injury?)
6. Evans @ NE

by process of elimination i would choose the following:
qb-manning. favre should have a tough week on the road with no supporting cast. mcnair is beat up and therefore scares me a bit.

rb-henry for certain if we find out he is starting. tampa bay's defense is tough to run against and sf will be playing from behind so gore is a no no.

wr-chambers and curtis. chambers is head and shoulders above the rest and curtis will either be the #1 or #2 receiver for the rams. he has much better stats than the remaining choices.

one thing i am looking at for rb is dillon is questionable again this week. if we can drag any info out of the patriots, patrick pass might be a good plug-in.

good luck! [smiley=clap.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by StegRock on Oct 26^th, 2005, 10:09pm

QB - McNair, by a good margin, assuming he plays; if not, Manning.

RB - Believe it or not, I'd take a flyer on Gore; he can run the ball and he may get some late-game garbage love as you suggest; I just don't like Henry right away.

WR - I'd go with Chambers and Evans; Edwards would have been a close third, injury notwithstanding, but the uncertainty at QB has to make one shy away.

Good luck! [smiley=shamrock.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 27^th, 2005, 1:10am

My two cents [smiley=twocents.gif] here kec! I'd personally go with Favre [smiley=cheesehead.gif] at QB. GB will be playing from behind so they will throw often. I also think Chatman is a better #2 than Ferguson was, so the passing game improved in my opinion......Henry and Gore are a coin flip [smiley=shrug.gif] I lean to Henry if he starts.......Chambers and Curtis at WR. True, Curtis is catching balls from Martin, but he is healthy and that's something!!![smiley=fireman.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by kec6906 on Oct 27^th, 2005, 8:11am

thanks for the quik response guys.

i was leaning towards Favre or McNair.
i think Favre will probably have to throw a heck of alot more the rest of the season with no run game. Prob more INT's but should be plenty of TD's too.
McNair has a great matchup if he is healthy to play.

At RB i was leaning towards Henry. its tough cause he's just coming back but i think he might get in there possibly at the goal line plus Brown isnt 100%, although TEN does have Payton too.
----
what do u think about Marion Barber vs ARI?? reports are that J Jones will be out again this week and that Barber gets the start.
like i said before, WW is slim or no pickins. Even Fisher, Pass, Stecker - all gone. and i'm 11th in waiver order this week so Barber might not even be there for me.

at WR i was leaing towards TO (obvious)and i like Curtis & Chambers, but Clayton @ SF and Edwards @ HOU, both have excellent matchups and neither is listed on the injury report this week. Clayton has been injured but Edwards did play last week - he might be a nice sleeper. They play 2 of the worst teams in the league.
----
i might take a chance on TO, Curtis & Edwards

any thoughts on the IND defensive player choices i have??

thanks again. KC

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by lumber2121 on Oct 27^th, 2005, 9:20am

Favre -
McNair is a gamble, even if he starts. Who knows if he is going to be get a shot in the back that will knock him out of the game. There could be a huge payoff is McNair starts. There is a lot of risk with this potential payoff. If you want a safer bet, you should go with Favre. He is putting up good numbers and he will be throwing a fair amount.

Henry -
He will probably splits carries with Brown, if Brown plays the whole game. There is a good chance that Brown will not make it through the game without aggrevating his stinger. My basic understanding of these injuries is that they result from impact on on the shoulder. It is a nervous injury and is very easily aggrevated. I would bet that Brown will not play consistently for the rest of the season. In short, Henry could be the only guy running the ball by the start of the second half.

TO, Chambers and Curtis -
Evans is a deep threat on a team that cannot pass block and that has a quarterback who cannot throw downfield. The Raiders secondary spoke about how they did not worry about the deep ball against the Bills because Holcomb cannot air it out. You all saw the results of that game. Evans is very talented but the Bills offense is not. Injuries to the other two guys makes the decision easier. Also, Chambers is a solid receiver and Crutis is a threat to break one deep.

Title: Re: who to start? week 9
Post by kec6906 on Nov 4^th, 2005, 4:53pm

Lumber, good call on the WR's even though i didnt play Curtis (22pts). i also got M. Barber off WW and he scored 40 pts but i took a shot on Clayton (2pts) against SF - big mistake plus i stayed with Favre who just flat out sucked it up -- do u believe he actually got me (5 pts)!! i thought i was in the negative with 5 INT's.
anyway, needing to win, i of course lost to the worst team in the league by 24 pts. if i had played McNair (17 pts) AND Curtis (22pts) i would have won by 8. i also had Simeon Rice for my IDP cause Freeney was on bye and found out after gametime that he had been suspended and deactivated -- unbelievable!
well, i dont have much choice for week 9 in this league, so this is what i am going with:

QB: Eli Manning
RB: Dunn, Jordan
WR: TO, Chambers, Edwards
K: Bironas
DEF: CHI
IDP: Freeney

^{Rest of my roster -- Favre, McNair, M Barber (bye), Henry, Gore, Michael Clayton, Evans (bye), Curtis (bye), ATL Def}

but could use some help for another league ----

L2a) need a QB:
Hass @ ARI or Leftwich vs HOU

L2b) need a 3rd WR:
Harrison @ NE (**Definite starter**)
Mushin @ NO (**definite starter**)
Antonio Bryant vs TEN
Roy Williams vs DET

L3) need 2 RB's, 2 WR's and 1 Flex out of these 6 players for another league:

Dunn @ MIA
Ronnie Brown vs ATL
Moore VS DET
Fitzgerald VS SEA
R Moss @ KC (**definite starter**as long as he is playing)
Burress @ SF (**definite starter**)

thanks for the advice. KC. Go Eagles!! [smiley=eagle.gif] [smiley=eagle.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by StegRock on Nov 4^th, 2005, 5:56pm

Hasselbeck, DEFINITELY!!!
Antonio Bryant, mainly because of Harrington's coming back in at QB.
Mewelde Moore is the odd man out.

Good luck! [smiley=stpat.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by rickgpin on Nov 4^th, 2005, 9:44pm

hass may not light it up but will outscore leftwich. jaguars is just not explosive and give the rock to taylor.

definitely bryant. i don't even trust williams to dress.

i agree with steg on the last one, moore is the odd man out.

good luck! [smiley=booya.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by kec6906 on Nov 4^th, 2005, 10:16pm

thanks guys.
one additional question about L3 from week 9 post.
in that league i have Plummer (bye). McCown was my backup - now benched.
not many options on WW so i'm trying to decide between Warner (1st game back) and Brad Johnson (1st game in a long time).

i have Fitzgerald on my roster so should i just go with Warner and hope for the double dip or can Johnson handle DET at home???

Warner vs SEA or Johnson vs DET

^{~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
QB: Plummer (bye)
RB: Dunn, R Brown, Moore, A Smith
WR: Burress, R Moss, Fitzgerald, Brandon Jones (inj)
K: Feely
DEF: TB, PHI
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~}

thanks again.

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by Callie on Nov 4^th, 2005, 10:26pm

Go with Johnson. Warner is playing the Seattle D, and they should just sack and pick him all day long, especially with that ARI O line. The DET corners can't stop everyone, so Johnson should have a very serviceable day.

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by MordecaiCourage on Nov 5^th, 2005, 6:40pm

on 11/04/05 at 17:56:18, StegRock wrote:

Hasselbeck, DEFINITELY!!!
Antonio Bryant, mainly because of Harrington's coming back in at QB.
Mewelde Moore is the odd man out.

I agree 100% with Steg!! For your other question..go with Brad Johnson over Warner. Good luck!! [smiley=fireman.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by StegRock on Nov 5^th, 2005, 11:33pm

on 11/05/05 at 18:40:00, MordecaiCourage wrote:

I agree 100% with Steg!! For your other question..go with Brad Johnson over Warner. Good luck!! [smiley=fireman.gif]

[smiley=bullseye.gif]

As Callie said, though, "serviceable" is the word.

Title: Re: who to start? -- WK 10
Post by kec6906 on Nov 13^th, 2005, 10:22am

sorry for last minute questions but hopefully some of my knowledgeable fantasy friends are still watching the red zone this morning.

L1) these are my choices in order of my liking right now. i lost TO so its not looking real good for my WR core. Need 3:

Chambers vs NE
Evans vs KC
Finneran vs GB
Curtis @ SEA (Holt & Bruce back)
Edwards @ PIT (bad, bad matchup)
M Clayton vs WAS (inj)
^{E Manning*, Favre, McNair, Dunn*, Jordan*, Suggs, Henry, Barber, Elam, CHI*, ATL, Freeney*}

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
L2) Need to start 5 (2 RB, 2 WR & 1 Flex):

Dunn vs GB
R Brown vs NE
Moore @ NYG
Fitzgerald @ DET
Burress vs MIN
R Moss vs DEN
^{Plummer*, B Johnson, A Smith, B Jones, Feely*, TB*}

this part is actually easy - start all Except Moore but the second part of the question is --
Would Duce Staley vs the lowly Browns be a better one week fill in instead of maybe R Brown? he is avail on WW.
i like the 3 WR matchups and Dunn has been a stud even with Duckett playing so R Brown is the only ?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
L3) Need to start 5 (2 RB, 2 WR, 1 flex):

R Brown vs NE
T Bell @ OAK
K Jones vs ARI
R Moss vs DEN
Holt @ SEA
Jurevicius vs STL
^{Palmer, Frerotte*, Toomer, Elam*, NYG*, CIN}

tough decision- who do i take out this week?

thanks alot. KC. Go Eagles!! [smiley=eagle.gif] (minus TO)

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 13^th, 2005, 11:06am

Well, lets see here.

L1) Chambers, Finneran, and Curtis.

L2) Bench Moore

L3) Bench R. Brown

L2 and L3 for matchup reasons and L1 because those are the best of the bunch.

O4L

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by StegRock on Nov 13^th, 2005, 12:24pm

L1) Chambers, Evans and, (... flipping coin...) [smiley=twocents.gif] what the hell, Finneran.

L2) Bench Moore; take a flyer out on Staley if you still can.

L3) Bench Jones!

L1, L2 and L3) Good luck! [smiley=shamrock.gif] ... :)

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by kec6906 on Nov 13^th, 2005, 3:18pm

just FYI.

i originally had Chambers, Finneran & Evans in my lineup and changed my mind and took out Evans and inserted Curtis at around 11:30am cause i had to go out. just got home & boy, am i pissed at myself!!!@#$^^*.

right now Evans has 2 TD's and 28 points sitting on my bench. i'll keep u updated.

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 13^th, 2005, 4:37pm

I'm with ya bro, I dropped Evans also =\

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by MordecaiCourage on Nov 13^th, 2005, 5:25pm

on 11/13/05 at 16:37:12, Oakland4life wrote:

I'm with ya bro, I dropped Evans also =\

OOOOOOps!!! [smiley=shrug.gif] Who knew he would catch two TD's? That's what usually happens to me when I bench or drop someone!! [smiley=fireman.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by StegRock on Nov 14^th, 2005, 3:39pm

on 11/13/05 at 17:25:20, MordecaiCourage wrote:

OOOOOOps!!! [smiley=shrug.gif] Who knew he would catch two TD's?

[smiley=whistle.gif] ... Well, maybe not exactly... [smiley=awwgee.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by kec6906 on Nov 14^th, 2005, 8:40pm

well, it all worked out. i held on in the league with Evans to win by 9 points - and he had James, R Moss, Plummer.

by the way, good call Steg [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]. i see u did pick Chambers, Evans & Finneran.

well, be talkin to u later on about week 11.

thanks again gang. KC. Go Eagles!! [smiley=eagle.gif]

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 15^th, 2005, 12:35am

Well, thanks to my bonehead move I lost.......again :'(

I won the superbowl last year, this year, I'm 4-6

Man I hate losing.

Oh yea, I forgot ,.........Fuckn Raiders

Title: Re: who to start? --week 11
Post by kec6906 on Nov 19^th, 2005, 6:16pm

hey gang, back again for wk 11 advice. i dont know, cant think straight (is it stress about trying to make the playoffs? haha - maybe these will seem easier for u guys.

League A: need 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex
scoring - TD = 6pts, 20 rush/rec yds = 1pt

1. T Bell (**starter** - should get his)
2. R Brown
3. K Jones (good week to bench him?)
4. Holt vs ARI (**starter**)
5. R Moss @ WAS (**starter** - how can u bench this guy?)
6. A Chatman vs MIN (good matchup)
7. Jurevicius @ SF (even better matchup)
^{Philly Bad Boyz (Yahoo) - Palmer, Elam, NYG, CIN [5-5, 2 games out of 1st]}
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

League B: scoring - TD = 6pts, 10 rush/rec yds = 1pt, 50 yds pass = 1 pt

Plummer vs NYJ or Warner @ STL

again need 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex:

1. Dunn vs TB (**starter**)
2. R Brown @ CLE
3. A Smith @ NE
4. R Moss @ WAS (**starter**)
5. Burress vs PHI
6. Fitzgerald @ STL (**starter**)
^{Philly Bad Boyz (AOL) - Feely, TB, PHI [7-3, 1st place]}
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

League C: need 3 WR's (figured on the first 3, WW picked clean, this is all i have to work with since TO suspension)

1. Chambers @ CLE
2. Curtis vs ARI
3. Evans @ SD
4. Edwards vs MIA
5. M Clayton @ ATL

K: Bironas vs JAX or Elam vs NYJ

DEF: ATL vs TB or CHI vs CAR

this is the team i asked the trade ? about but wasnt able to get the guy to do it.
^{OBFFL 2004 Champs - Favre**, E Manning, McNair, Dunn**, Jordan**, Freeney**[5-5, 3 games out of 1st - fighting for my playoff life up against 2nd place team and she has Bulger, LT2, Chad Johnson & Galloway - its not looking too good gang - looks like this might be another case of 1st to worst, well almost worst]}

thanks again. KC.

Title: Re: who to start?
Post by StegRock on Nov 19^th, 2005, 8:50pm

L-A) I would go with... Bell, Brown, Holt, Moss, and Chatman over Jurevicius considering Ferguson's out.

L-B) I say Smith is your odd man out.

L-C) You're right about your receivers. Then, I'd go Elam because I think Denver's really going to rack it up on the Jets, but not want to lay it on too thick, accepting late-game field goals over piling on the touchdowns, and Chicago over Atlanta based solely on overall better quality.

Good luck! [smiley=shamrock.gif] ... And, we are at the point in the season where I feel obligated to remind you all, who get a lot out of "the Gridiron", to give back a little bit by clicking here, http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/donate.htm, and showing your gratitude by making a reasonable contribution. I am sure you always want "the Gridiron" to be here for you,... FREE BOTH of membership fees AND from a deluge of annoying advertisements. So, do what you can to make sure it is. Living virtuously is about understanding that life is a process of "give-and-take". You don't just want to be a taker, right? :-/

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by kec6906 on Nov 23^rd, 2005, 6:36pm

12 team/3 division league tied for 2nd in 4 team division at 6-5 (2 games out of 1st w/ 2 games left and i hold the tiebreaker over the team i'm tied with but only 1/2 game above last) just need to hold on to 2nd place to get into playoffs. this week i play 3rd place team in another division but look at his lineup - P Manning, L Johnson, Portis, Shockey, Jurevicius, Dante Hall, Vinatieri, NYJ DEF. not too worried i guess, cause last week i beat the team with LT2, Bulger, C Johnson, Galloway, Key Johnson. And next week i get my division leader 8-3 who has an easy matchup this week. so i need your almighty Gridiron advice once again.

scoring: longer TD = more pts, also pts for rec/rush attempts, rec/rush yds, longer FG = more pts

A. need 1 - all have good matchups, tough call, in order of liking:

1. McNair vs SF
2. Favre @ PHI
3. E Manning @ SEA

B. need 3 - like i said before WW empty and i got screwed by my top gun TO, in order of liking:

1. Curtis @ HOU (best matchup - will Martin get him the ball again?)
2. Evans vs CAR (Losman favors Evans - good matchup at home if Losman starts)
3. Edwards @ MIN (which QB starting? - but has been getting more play lately)
4. Chambers @ OAK (no QB or real offense?)
5. Clayton vs CHI (big bust and very bad matchup)

**I almost picked up Andre Davis (NE) last week and played him (60 yd TD catch) cause Troy Brown, Bethel johnson & Givens were out inj and other than Branch, Davis was the other starting option - Brady targeted him on alot of deep balls. well, Brown & Givens havent practiced yet this week - if they are out again would u try Davis as 3rd WR???? he plays @ weak KC pass D.or how about Samie Parker (KC) vs NE weak pass D?

C. need 1 - longer FG's = more pts (50 yd = 11 pts), but FG's obviously are better than XP's (2 pts)

1. Elam @ DAL (hurt but played fine last week and says he'll play thurs) or
2. Bironas vs SF (will he get any FG tries?)

D. need 1

1. ATL @ DET or
2. CHI @ TB

{OBFFL - 2004 Champs}: my other starters are: RB - Dunn & Jordan, IDP - Freeney, HC - Coughlin

thanks for the advice. KC.

PS - somehow i modified my 1st original post instead of adding on to the thread, so just disregard the other post. i was trying to figure out how to change the subject title.

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by StegRock on Nov 23^rd, 2005, 8:31pm

A. McNair AT HOME vs. San Francisco.

B. Just stick it out with your currents guys: Curtis, Edwards and Chambers.

C. Elam's the man.

D. I would go with Chicago @ Tampa Bay. I just have a feeling that this is going to end up being a smash-mouth 17-to-14 (at most) type of game.

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by MordecaiCourage on Nov 23^rd, 2005, 8:50pm

on 11/23/05 at 20:31:14, StegRock wrote:

[smiley=bullseye.gif] I share Steg's opinion!!

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by kec6906 on Nov 24^th, 2005, 12:26am

thanks guys. i need to pick ur brains on 2 other leagues so am writing them on the same feed but seperate from the last post cause it was long enough as it was. if anyone new reads this please go back a couple posts for my original week 12 post asking for advice in League 1. (11/23)

L2) definitely starting R Moss, T Holt, K Jones & R Brown. -- need 1 of the following for Flex spot:

1. Jurevicius vs NYG
2. Chatman @ PHI (is Ferguson back?)
3. Bell @ DAl (injured but says he'll play?)
4. C Taylor @ CIN (getting more playing time and CIN not real good against the run)

^{Palmer, K Jones, R Brown, Bell, Taylor, Holt, R Moss, Chatman, Jurevicius, Elam, CIN, NYG (5-6) fighting for playoff life}

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

L3a) definitely starting R Moss, Dunn, R Brown. -- need 2 of the following (1 RB & 1 WR or 2 WR)

1. Plax Burress @ SEA
2. Fitzgerald vs JAX
3. M Moore vs CLE
4. A Smith @ NYJ

L3b) i have Plummer & Warner on my roster but they both have tough matchups - the rest are avail on WW. so which QB this week?

1. Plummer @ DAL (tough matchup - usually doesnt do much anyway)
2. Warner vs JAX (tough matchup but will throw alot 2 Fitz & Boldin)
3. Martin @ HOU (shootout ?- more weapons than Carr)
4. Carr vs STL (shootout?)
5. Johnson vs CLE
6. McMahon vs GB

^{Plummer, Warner, Dunn, R Brown, Moore, A Smith, R Moss, Plax, Fitz, Feely, TB, PHI (8-3) 1st in division by 1 game}

thanks again for all your advice. KC.

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by tm20 on Nov 24^th, 2005, 12:29am

I'd think about going with favre. Philly has given up a few big plays against their secondary for a while now. GB's Run is enough to keep their O steady.

I think its a tossup, and the titans will probably get in the red zone a couple more times, but they have Chris brown to take away from mcnair.

Even with that being said, its tough to not go with Mcnair against the niners. This is probably a bad week to take ANY chance that favre is disappointing, so I guess I give the slight edge to Mcnair...but it is slight.

What the other guys said for WRS...I definitely DO NOT like Evans and I can't say I like Clayton against Chicago.

Chicago for sure.

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by StegRock on Nov 24^th, 2005, 1:10am

[offtopic]FIRST OFF, kec, I want to heartily THANK YOU for consolidating your posts (into, for the last number of weeks, this single thread). You have set a great example for others to learn from and follow,... albeit a bit extreme. In all sincerity, you do not need to consolidate to this degree. One thread per week is really fine. It's just when dudes post multiple threads (moreover, about similar, if not essentially the same, shit) in one (NFL) week. Again, for me it's ultimately ALL about going about things in a maximally effective manner. To the degree that you've accomodated my "thread non-proliferation policy", I think you've, at this point at least, delved into the realm of ineffectiveness. This week you've already continued here. BUT, next week, feel free to start yourself up a new thread, brother. And, again, thank you for making such a great effort to fully comply with the goals and consequent according policies of the site. [smiley=twothumbsup.gif][/offtopic]

On to the more pressing matter at hand...

L2) Play it "safe" and go with Jurevicius.

L3a) Plaxico Burress and Mewelde Moore.

L3b) Stick it out with the Plumber. He's plugged up all leaks [smiley=drip.gif] this year and is no longer... [smiley=drown.gif] I believe that he is in for a great game tomorrow, actually (I think it is going to be a high-scoring affair) as my soon-to-come FF-specific Broncos report will bear out.

L1, L2, L3) Good luck! [smiley=stpat.gif] (Let's give (at least the smiley for) good old St. Pat, the representative of another one of our fine holidays, a little love on our most American [smiley=patriot.gif] of holidays [smiley=turkey.gif].)

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by kec6906 on Nov 25^th, 2005, 7:11pm

ok, cool. thanks Steg. i will start up a new one next week cause u know i'll be back for advice again. and then i'll just use a new one for each week. i just try not to put too much into one post cause i'm in 5 leagues and i'm always looking for advice. dont get me wrong - i have my own ideas (been playing fantasy for 5 years now) but i always like to get other opinions.

anyway, could u do me a favor and take a look at this thread a few posts back dated 11/23, 6:36pm and give me ur advice on the QB & WR situation from my (L1).

i'm leaning towards McNair but Favre is still tempting.

as far as the WR, i'm leaning towards Chambers, Curtis & ???.

i read that Kennison came up on the injury report today as questionable with a back injury and might not play Sun - would that upgrade Samie Parker against NE bad pass D?

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by StegRock on Nov 25^th, 2005, 7:52pm

on 11/25/05 at 19:11:55, kec6906 wrote:

could u do me a favor and take a look at this thread a few posts back dated 11/23, 6:36pm and give me ur advice on the QB & WR situation from my (L1).

i'm leaning towards McNair but Favre is still tempting.

as far as the WR, i'm leaning towards Chambers, Curtis & ???.

i read that Kennison came up on the injury report today as questionable with a back injury and might not play Sun - would that upgrade Samie Parker against NE bad pass D?

Brother, I am the first guy who responded to that... And, no, the Kennison situation does not change my stance on your WR situation... Good luck! [smiley=shammy.gif]

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by Oakland4life on Nov 26^th, 2005, 1:45am

I've been doing some research on the Kennison injury. He should be good to go for this week. I think that Vermeil felt left out this week and decided to play the injury game along with the rest of the NFL.

Kennison is still a good play for this weekend. He held his press conference before practice today so he did not release any info to go along with the reasoning for putting him on the report.

Check out the report tomorrow for sure, but from what I have seen, Kennison is GTG so I would hold off on picking up Sammie this week.

O4L

Title: Re: who to start? - week 12
Post by MordecaiCourage on Nov 26^th, 2005, 8:46am

I agree [smiley=yes.gif] [smiley=thumbsup.gif]with Steg and O4L on your lineup. I like Kennison to be back too. Just keep an eye on the situation as suggested. Looks good to me, you should fare pretty well this weekend! Good luck [smiley=shammy.gif]