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(Message started by: captainpurple on Oct 19^th, 2005, 3:37pm)

Title: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by captainpurple on Oct 19^th, 2005, 3:37pm

I'm stacked at RB and trying to trade Chris Brown off his great week. For those that followed this drama a few weeks ago, this is unwilling trade moron #2. I offered him Brown for Fitz or Wayne weeks ago, now he's 1-4-1 and :o shocker! wants Brown.

He offered Ferguson, I countered with Wayne. I think Fitz would be a good compromise. Thoughts?

info: we get 1 pt/rec, 1 pt/20yds, 6 pts/TD

His Roster
QB - Peyton, Leftwich
WR - Burress, Wayne, Fitz, Ferguson, GLewis, EParker
RB - Portis, Julius Jones, Pittman
TE - Miller, Stevens
K - Keading
D - PHI

My Roster
QB - Hass, Favre
WR - SSmith, Burleson, Mi.Clayton, Jurevicius
TE - Heap
RB - Priest, LJ, Rudi, Ro.Brown, CBrown , Mewelde Moore

Thanks! [smiley=twothumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by StegRock on Oct 19^th, 2005, 4:18pm

I think you may be at a deadlock... I can see why he wouldn't want to part with Fitz for Brown despite its being a WR-for-RB situation. It is, however, as you suggest, within the realm of reason. On the other hand, I would also consider either throwing him back Clayton to get the deal done OR doing Burress and Ferguson for Brown. Good luck! [smiley=shamrock.gif]

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by lumber2121 on Oct 19^th, 2005, 5:26pm

This is a tough fit.

Personally, I would not give up Burress up for Brown. Buress is one of the top five or so most targeted receivers in the game. He has the talent and the oppportunity to put up big numbers, which we have already seen.

I am not too high on Brown, but the guy you may trade with seems to be. If you can pull of Burress for Brown, do it right away. Burress is a much more valuable receiver than Brown is valubale at running back.

Robert Ferguson is not enough for Brown. Roy Williams is closer to Brown's value, but still not quite there. This would change if Garcia steps in as quarterback.

I would NOT trade Brown for Ferguson.

I would trade Brown for Burress.
I would trade Brown for Fitzgerald.
I would trade Brown for Wayne.

If you need to throw in Clayton to close the deal, I would do so. His injuries are mounting, Galloway is getting all of the looks and Greise is out for the year.

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by captainpurple on Oct 19^th, 2005, 5:48pm

Well, here's a wrinkle I hadn't considered. He's offering:

J Stevens & Wayne

for

Heap & Brown

I think this looks good. I really need the WR help. Heap has had a nice couple games, but look at the Ds he faces in the next weeks: CHI, PIT, CIN, JAC, PIT, CIN.

Thats a tough road. Stevens is no slouch, and plays for a top 3 offense. I like it.

Go for it?

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by StegRock on Oct 19^th, 2005, 5:52pm

I personally don't like it,... but it seems to be along the lines of what you want. So, it's surely not preposterous... Go for it, I guess! [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by rickgpin on Oct 19^th, 2005, 10:05pm

i like the trade. chris brown is going to lose carries to travis henry soon i think. stevens is having a good year and not much behind heap. wayne seems to be starting to heat up. go for it! [smiley=cheers.gif]

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by StegRock on Oct 20^th, 2005, 3:15am

on 10/19/05 at 22:05:46, rickgpin wrote:

chris brown is going to lose carries to travis henry soon

Really? You think so...??? I used to think that, but I am no longer convinced, especially after this drug suspension.

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 20^th, 2005, 9:50am

on 10/19/05 at 17:48:44, captainpurple wrote:

Heap will get the dump off passes that TE's get when their lousy QB doesn't have time to go downfield because of good defense!! I like this trade Captain...I'd pull the trigger [smiley=gunsablazin.gif]

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by lumber2121 on Oct 20^th, 2005, 3:35pm

Pull the trigger. Brown is fragile and he just came off of a big week. Strike while the iron is hot. Heap and Stevens are not too far apart, if at all. Wayne will help you out at receiver.

I would make the trade.

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by StegRock on Oct 20^th, 2005, 7:28pm

on 10/20/05 at 09:50:04, MordecaiCourage wrote:

He's giving up Heap... So, wouldn't this be an argument against making the trade? [smiley=uh.gif]

on 10/20/05 at 15:35:05, lumber2121 wrote:

I don't disagree with the idea of striking while the iron's hot with Brown. BUT, is this deal really taking FULL advantage of the heat of the iron here? I just think you can get more for Brown. [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by MordecaiCourage on Oct 20^th, 2005, 7:49pm

on 10/20/05 at 19:28:02, StegRock wrote:

He's giving up Heap... So, wouldn't this be an argument against making the trade? [smiley=uh.gif]

:-[ Yep it would.....guess I read that wrong

Title: Re: Trade help: Chris Brown for Fergy or Wayne
Post by lumber2121 on Oct 21^st, 2005, 1:26pm

Personally, I do not think you can get much more for Brown. In all fairness, I am a pretty big detractor of Brown. He is too upright when he runs. This, coupled with his relatively thin frame (6-3 and 220), makes him a big injury risk. Plus, Travis Henry is going to get some work when he come back, even if it is dimished because of the nature of his suspension.

Obviously the Titans do not have a large amount of faith in Brown either. Why else would they trade for Henry?

Steg may be right. You might be able to get a bit more. Counter with Burress and Stevens for Brown and Heap. When is balks, offer Fitzgerald and Stevens for Brown and Heap. If you have to, I would still take Wayne and Stevens for Brown and Heap. You could use some help at receiver and you have better depth at running back.