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(Message started by: StegRock on Dec 21^st, 2005, 7:27pm)

Title: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by StegRock on Dec 21^st, 2005, 7:27pm

Strictly in terms of getting a guy for the future, next season (and beyond), without at all considering the remainder of this season, in the context of a DEEP keeper league (the GBRFL), who would you pick up off the waiver wire of the following: QB Sage Rosenfels, QB Josh McCown, QB John Navarre, RB Tony Fisher or RB Michael Turner??? Here is a direct link to the "Rosters" page in case you want to see what other options might be available to me: http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/gbrfl/rosters.htm.

I really look forward to seeing what recommendations you all make as well as any discussions that ensue... So, NOW, let me have it!!!

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by captainpurple on Dec 21^st, 2005, 8:50pm

I guess I'd go Rosenfels or Mccown.

I don't really like any of the others to get playing time. Fisher is stuck behind Green and Davenport. The Burner is behind LT. Navarre is unlikely to see any action at all next season, IMO.

McCown has impressed at times, and dissappointed others. I've got him on my roster in the GBRFL2, and can't decide if I'm going to protect him. Depends on Warner's status this summer I guess.

Rosenfels can't seem to "click" yet. But I like his upside more than McCown. And Saban is far from sold on Frerotte.

I'd go with Rosenfels.

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by StegRock on Dec 21^st, 2005, 10:31pm

Thanks for the input, cp! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Very helpful.

Regarding, McCown (versus Navarre), though, did you see the reports up on the "Cardinals In-season Report" thread? Here's a direct link:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;action=display;num=1128578682.

According to those reports, McCown looks to be the odd man out...

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by MordecaiCourage on Dec 21^st, 2005, 10:43pm

Of the above mentioned Steg, I think Sage is really the best chance to evolve into something usable. I don't really like any of them honestly, but I think he has the best chance to move up

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by StegRock on Dec 23^rd, 2005, 3:57am

[smiley=crickets.gif]

cp, MC, and that's it...??? :-/

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by MordecaiCourage on Dec 23^rd, 2005, 8:26am

on 12/23/05 at 03:57:24, StegRock wrote:

[smiley=crickets.gif]

cp, MC, and that's it...??? :-/

Steg...I too have noticed the lack of what I would call "common courtesy" replies. It does get a little bit frustrating [smiley=annoyed.gif] when you spend valuable time replying to other's queries with the sole purpose of helping out, only to find that your own post has been neglected!! (and many times by the very people that you have helped on several occasions) I realize that this is a hectic time of year for many and we probably will not see anything from them till next year. However, there are those who are still posting their questions expecting some help, who are in fact not helping others. To be frank and honest here, that's just selfish. Shameful....and at this time of the year that is known for giving. [smiley=dejected.gif]

Sorry for posting this here Steg, but it is something that has been bothering me and your post reminded me of it. [smiley=fireman.gif]

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by mcgeeizgod on Dec 23^rd, 2005, 1:25pm

ehh i don't really like any of em. i guess if you HAD to make a move I would go with Turner. I love the way he runs and its quite possible that he could get traded away to a starting position somewhere else, where I feel he would put up some good numbers. I think the Dolphins will be shopping on the free agent market for a qb this offseason so Rosenfels won't be starting and who knows what the hell navarre and mccown will end up doin. Ahman is gettin old also but I think Gado proved that he was their best backup this year. overall i'd go with turner cuz he's got the most talent at his position- and its been discovered.

can you pick up reggie bush yet?? hehe

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by StegRock on Dec 23^rd, 2005, 6:47pm

on 12/23/05 at 08:26:30, MordecaiCourage wrote:

No need to be sorry at all, MC, for posting this here. I welcome others to take the stand and point out BS for the bullshit it is. I do; most don't, which means that I am usually stranded [smiley=stranded.gif] as the lone soldier [smiley=ready4war.gif] of "doing the right thing", when, mind you, this is (a meaningful) part of the "project" of "the Gridiron" (that everybody benefits from, ultimately, even though few "make the stand" necessary to make it happen). By all means, MC, feel free to help me in this (Confucian) endeavor (of making "Superior Men" (out of barbarians), to use the Confucian terminology I happen to like). [smiley=zenmaster.gif] The propensity to "take and take and take and take" without ever even having it cross one's mind to "replenish" or "return the favor" is an unbelievable dynamic to witness, huh? It really lends legitimacy to the definition of "human" as "virus". Moreover, this is made even more poignant by the "supposed" underlying angst we have with "corporate" America. ... There REALLY is SO MUCH to learn here above and beyond the limitated world of fantasy football. I know I have learned A TON about what people are about.

...

So, any more help for me,... with my free-agent pick that is???

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by Chumpzilla on Dec 23^rd, 2005, 7:24pm

Steg,

I would definitely not take Fisher. I don't think he'll be anything more than a 3rd down back.

While I like Turner, he won't get an opportunity in SD. Tough to say if/when/where he would.

I like Sage but I think MIA will look for another option next year (Brooks???).

That leaves McCown and Navarre. It you think McCown will be gone from ARI next year, I would go with Navarre. He's got raw talent with great WR's. McCown would be my second choice.

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by BarnabyWilde on Dec 24^th, 2005, 9:05am

Slim pickin's Steggie, but I'd take McCown.

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by DirkDiggler on Dec 24^th, 2005, 12:36pm

Since I am in the same league, I would take a flyer on the chance that Barry Sanders is going to come back. ;D

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by StegRock on Dec 24^th, 2005, 1:56pm

If you non-GBRFLers are at all curious, I ended up deciding on taking Navarre with the first pick overall and in the second round of free-agency I took QB Dan Orlovsky. As for the rest,... I really just don't like McCown. Rosenfels didn't start. Fisher ain't going anywhere with that log-jam of tailbacks in Green Bay. Turner is ultimately "stuck" in beautiful San Diego behind Tomlinson for the foreseeable future.

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by DirkDiggler on Dec 24^th, 2005, 1:57pm

on 12/24/05 at 13:53:29, StegRock wrote:

If you non-GBRFLers are at all curious, I ended up deciding on taking Navarre with the first pick overall and in the second round of free-agency I took QB Dan Orlovsky. I really just don't like McCown.

I was happy to take McCown with my pick in the same league. Two reasons that I like him:

1) He will be starting for the rest of the year in a potent Arizona passing offense.

2) He is a free agent at the end of the year. The free agent crop of QBs next year is bleak, so he is arguably in the top 3 free agents available. (that is not saying I realize)

Title: Re: Week 16 - Who should I pick up?
Post by StegRock on Dec 24^th, 2005, 2:11pm

on 12/24/05 at 13:57:09, DirkDiggler wrote:

Eh,... yea,... I knew all that, too. Ultimately, he's a straw, and you're reachin'... like we all are right now. At this point in the season, though, I prefer to go with guys who (well, first of all, are known quantities of good potential, but they're all gone, so) are relative unknowns that haven't proven themselves one way or the other yet but are in decent situations to guys who have somewhat proven that they stink. McCown ain't being brought in to enter any starting QB battles save for perhaps if he stays in Arizona, which does not appear likely, whereas, there is a decent chance Navarre and perhaps Orlovsky, who are stuck in their relative homes, will, not necessarily because they deserve it, but as a matter of fact. The irony here is that often the whole player entering free-agency thing, the basis of your m.o. here, can be a (fantasy) boon, but in this case I think it's those staying put that are better situated (for fantasy football at least). For McCown, I just think free-agency will very well translate into a job for State Farm. [smiley=joker.gif] ... [smiley=shrug.gif]