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(Message started by: DirkDiggler on Jan 20th, 2006, 7:40pm)

Title: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Jan 20th, 2006, 7:40pm
Rumors are starting to fly that the Vikings and Daunte Culpepper will part ways.  Injured disgruntled QB and a new head coach are apparently not gelling.  Looks like the strategy may be to keep Brad Johnson as the QB, draft a young QB to groom, and sign a veteran back up for a year.

Straight from the Pioneer Press:

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/sports/13666979.htm

Title: Re: Vikings Off-Season Report 2006
Post by kidcrash on Jan 20th, 2006, 8:07pm
Great news DD I got the pioneer press this morning and I cant tell you how happy i would be if we traded him.
;D :D :) :o 8-) ;D :)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report 2006
Post by StegRock on Jan 20th, 2006, 8:22pm
[offtopic]Double D, GREAT post, but regarding the starting of this "offseason report" thread,... I had to make a judgment call on this a couple weeks ago and I came to the determination outlined on the following thread page:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=55;action=display;num=1109964598;start=75.  

In accordance with that determination, this thread will be temporarily locked until "OUR" "in-"season, i.e. the post-season, has COMPLETELY and indubitably ended and "OUR" offseason CLEARLY begun.  So, continue to post on the in-season threads until the Pro Bowl has been played.  Thank you!

P.S. (By the way, I prefer the (mis)spelling of "offseason" without the hyphen and will edit any threads that are a part of our "official 'Offseason Reports'" titled otherwise.  I have my philosophical reasons... [smiley=zenmaster.gif] Again, thank you for you anticipated cooperation.)[/offtopic]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Feb 13th, 2006, 10:29am

on 01/20/06 at 19:40:58, DirkDiggler wrote:
Rumors are starting to fly that the Vikings and Daunte Culpepper will part ways.  Injured disgruntled QB and a new head coach are apparently not gelling.  Looks like the strategy may be to keep Brad Johnson as the QB, draft a young QB to groom, and sign a veteran back up for a year.

Straight from the Pioneer Press:

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/sports/13666979.htm

Since the offseason has begun:

More and more rumors are starting to surface regarding Culpepper.  Some rumors speculate he is going to negotiate himself.  An article full of a rumor  indicating a sign and trade with  Jamal Lewis going to the Vikes for Culpepper.   (basically this makes no sense.)  This will be a fun situation to watch......

I must say Culpepper is an idiot for asking for a raise at the same time he is injured coming off his worst year.  Duh!!!  But maybe all he wants is a trade.  And to think they say Randy Moss was the bad apple.........


Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Feb 18th, 2006, 5:04pm
Culpepper update... from "The REAL Feed":

Culpepper responds to trade talk in e-mail to ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2333020&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (16.02.2006 16:13)
On Thursday, Daunte Culpepper responded to trade rumors, saying he's focusing on his rehab and refuses to waste his energy on the speculation in an e-mail to ESPN's Andrea Kremer.


If it's up to him, he's staying put!  I don't think it'll be up to him, though...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Feb 22nd, 2006, 8:51am
"Bennett: 'I won't be coming back' "

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/13921165.htm

It's a buyers' market for RB free agents this year.  Guess Minny feels it's a good time to go shopping.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Feb 27th, 2006, 11:25am
Vikes show Daunte the money:

"Report: Vikings to pay Culpepper's roster bonus
Amid trade rumors, injured QB reportedly to receive $6 million on March 17"


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/11579600/


Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by kidcrash on Feb 27th, 2006, 6:25pm
The key word in that articule is PLANS to pay Daunte.
I live in minneapolis and the consenus is he is as good as gone.

IMHO Viking management is trying to create value after realizing that very few teams want a injured QB with a 8 million dollar cap hit this year.

I think they will have to pay him to be able to trade him
and get any value.

Of course they could trade him for far less without paying him the bonus.


Either way he will not be a viking this up coming season.



            Stay tuned...........

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by steelkings on Feb 28th, 2006, 7:15am

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I live in minneapolis


I dont know how you eskimos do it[smiley=cold.gif]

I would go ( [smiley=zombie.gif] ) because I'd never leave the house.

I'd be to busy looking for wood for my fireplace[smiley=warminup.gif]

Is there a hibernation law in Minny ? [smiley=yawn.gif]

Could you imagine being the (SLOW/STOP) guy for road construction?  [smiley=cold.gif]

A while back a friend was there and he said it was sunny  [smiley=sunny.gif] and a balmy 7 degree's. he said he saw a guy in a tee shirt.

I live in Indy and its the cold and flu season here.  [smiley=sick.gif]

If I lived there I'd either be sleepin  [smiley=sleepers.gif] or dead  [smiley=scream.gif]

On the other hand think of the great things you could build outside in May.  [smiley=snowman.gif]

I was a bit suprised that Green Bay  [smiley=cheesehead.gif] and Minnesota [smiley=viking.gif] didn't win any metals in the winter games.  [smiley=dejected.gif]

With all that in mind , I know what ya do best.........

[smiley=alcoholic.gif]  [smiley=bonghit.gif]

[smiley=booya.gif]  [smiley=bouncin.gif]  [smiley=cheers.gif]  [smiley=havinablast.gif]  [smiley=ragin.gif]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 8th, 2006, 5:41pm
Culpepper tells Vikings to trade him or release him (http://x.go.com/cgi/x.pl?goto=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2359699&name=FPT-2359699-030817&srvc=sz)

This move isn't that suprising.   Culpepper's not been anywhere near Winter Park during his rehab.   And the fans of Minnesota, for better or worse, have decided they don't like Culpepper, so he's not really expected to be welcomed back with open arms.  

[offtopic]How a bunch of idiots can decide "we're better off" without the best WR in football, and one year later without a top 5 QB is beyond me.  Culpepper started out 2005 in terrible fashion, but some of that is attributable to no running game and a terrible offensive line.   Go back to 2004, and if Manning doesn't throw 49 TDs, Pepp probably gets quite a few MVP votes.  Statistically, he had one of the best seasons for a QB ever.  But the average Minny fan will say he's too dumb to run the offense, or fumbles too much, and place the whole damn thing on Pepp's shoulders, rather than moving some of that to a dunce head coach, an unqualified offensive coordinator or a poor coaching staff in general[/offtopic]

If you're holding Pepp in a keeper league, you've gotta hope he ends up in Miami or AZ.  Some of the other QB seekers are probably Buffalo, NYJ, Detroit and NO.  But really there's probably only 10 teams that wouldn't improve my having Pepp in their lineup.   Still, AZs stable of WRs, and Miami's offensive resurgence and family ties make those two homes most suitable IMO.  

For more on whether you should trade Pepp now, see the Viking report!


Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by kidcrash on Mar 9th, 2006, 7:33pm
Daunte will be traded tomorrow. :o

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9295762

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 9th, 2006, 7:41pm
I'll withhold my judgement on the trade until I see where he goes and what the compensation is...but I don't think there's any way a true football person could say, with a straight face, the Vikings will be better w/o Pepp.

Capn

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by steelkings on Mar 9th, 2006, 8:16pm
I'm telling you with a straight face that the Vikings will be far better off without C-pepp. A healthy Moss is quite frankly the best WR in the game. (BY FAR !) Sorry T.O. You are right, Pepper threw a ton of TD's a couple of seasons ago. He was close to an MVP QB. Much the same way (I know you will hate this) As Kordell Stewart was considered a fantasy MVP canidate the year he ran for a million TD's. Kordell and C-pepp both lost control as soon as you took a few pieces away.Lose Moss and Culpepper turned to shit.  Brad (Journeyman Johnson) ran that offence one hell of a lot better than Pepper this season under the same adversity you spoke of. The bottem line is the Vikings wont win a Superbowl with Brad Johnson, But they wont win one with Culpepper either. Thats what its all about isnt it?

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 9th, 2006, 8:30pm
first of all when brad johnson came into the offense they changed their entire offense and went to a short passing game....quicker routes...when c-pep was in their they were still playing deep ball like they had moss...i totally disagree with your comments and i cant believe people give up on players so easily...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Mar 9th, 2006, 8:38pm
Well, if the rumor world is right, Randy & Daunte may be reunited as early as tomorrow!

I didn't see it with my own deep brown eyes, but I heard that Adam Schefler of NFL Network has reported that a trade deal has been reached and will be finalized tomorrow.

Has anyone seen anything about this?

Edit:  Just to clarify, I'm not talking about some secret trade partner with Oakland as a possibility.  Schefler said it was specifically a Raiders/Vikings trade.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Oakland4life on Mar 10th, 2006, 12:17am
I've read that it was going to be a Rams/Vikes deal for Bulger.

[smiley=rumor.gif]

Guess we'll find out tomorrow!! [smiley=ontheclock.gif]

O4L

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by steelkings on Mar 10th, 2006, 7:07am

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i totally disagree with your comments and i cant believe people give up on players so easily...


I didn't give up on Coldpepper. I was never sold on him to begin with. Look. If we take Fantasy Football out of the equation, the most important thing is to win a Superbowl. I think Randy Moss would agree with the statement that Coldpepper is not the type of guy to carry a football team on his back when he has too. Daunte Culppepper is a quarterback who I think is solid enough to compete with, (Heres where Steg takes a side)but I hold him in the same regaurd as Jake plummer. If you want to win enough to compete in the NFC north or the AFC west then C-pepp and Plunger are your men. They will win 10 games or more a year then disinigrate in the playoffs. If thats what you want then fine ! If you want to win a superbowl then take a chance to find a QB with that Superbowl magic. In the season that C-pepp threw all those TD's he chucked a bunch of balls that Moss had to make a circus catch to complete the pass. Theres only 2 or 3 guys that make those catches. Unfortunatly they dont play for the vikes.
It seems to me that the Bears are destined to remain a defensive team. The Lions are going nowhere. Nether of those teams have a QB that can carry them to a SB title. If Im the Vikings GM the most important job is to find a way to beat the Packers to the next great QB availible.

Do you want to win a Superbowl or just compete?

PS.
There would not be a better place for Coldpepper than landing in Oakland. The Moss / Pepper feud was very entertaining if nothing else. "Like sands of the hourglass, so are the days of our lives". I wonder how long it will take before Moss asks to be traded again?

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 10th, 2006, 9:46am
sk, I believe your proving my point quite efficiently.   The Minnesota fan base, and apparaently some Steeler fans too, have placed the recent woes of this team squarely on Pepps shoulders.   I don't know how closely you've followed Minnesota this past 5 years, but I don't know how you can come to the decision that the Vikings are better off w/o Pepp if you had followed them closely.

1st off, the best showing for a Minnesota defense in the past 5 years was last year.   There's no questioning the fact that it's easier to win when the D is forcing 3&Out situations and keeping the opponent under 20 pts.  

Second, and thanks to soso for pointing this out, if you had watched, you'd have seen the Vikings threw a grand total of 4 passes over 40 yards with BJ in there.  FOUR!  The Vikings had to change the O to match BJs limitations.  He got great D support, fantastic special teams play (remember the Giants game?) and a much improved O-Line as Loney/Tice finally got their heads out of their arses and shuffled the line.   Had Pepp been playing under the same circumstances, I believe he'd have settled into a fine season, and stopped pressuring so much.

The team that gets Pepp is going to be ecstatic.  There's very likely going to be a Pro Bowl or 3 in his future, and if that's true, how can a team be better off w/o him?

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 10th, 2006, 9:48am

on 03/10/06 at 00:17:13, Oakland4life wrote:
I've read that it was going to be a Rams/Vikes deal for Bulger.

[smiley=rumor.gif]

Guess we'll find out tomorrow!! [smiley=ontheclock.gif]

O4L



I hadn't heard this, but it reunites Pepp with Linehan, under whom he had a phenomenal year.   It makes sense, but maybe the rumor started because of this fact.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 10th, 2006, 1:59pm
SK if you wanna put it like that we could list a HUGE list of QBs....hmmm Donovan Mcnabb, Jake Delhomme, peyton manning and the list goes on forever....they all have the same mark you have jus given c-pep and plummer....they cant win the big game...so if this is what your trying to say then i still dont agree with you....jus because their organizations havent set them up with a good enough team...doesnt mean they arent good enough to win a super bowl....

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by steelkings on Mar 11th, 2006, 8:03am
I love a good healthy debate.


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apparaently some Steeler fans too


As a Steeler fan purhaps Im not as close to the situation as a die hard Purple eater is. My best friend is a Vikes fan and I do know quite a bit.


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SK if you wanna put it like that we could list a HUGE list of QBs....hmmm Donovan Mcnabb, Jake Delhomme, peyton manning and the list goes on forever


Theres a huge difference between Pepper and the rest of the list. The rest of the list doesnt have an even turnover to Td ratio over 6 playing years. C-pepp is a turnover machine. I dont care how good your defence is, if you QB is not taking care of the ball your gonna loss some games. Espeacially to the better teams. Im not just talking about last year either. How about 2002-2003 when he had 23 picks and 21 fumbles. Ok ,he only lost 8 of the fumbles but the points still made.



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you'd have seen the Vikings threw a grand total of 4 passes over 40 yards with BJ in there.  FOUR!  The Vikings had to change the O to match BJs limitations.  He got great D support, fantastic special teams play (remember the Giants game?) and a much improved O-Line as Loney/Tice finally got their heads out of their arses and shuffled the line.   Had Pepp been playing under the same circumstances, I believe he'd have settled into a fine season, and stopped pressuring so much


The fact that the Vikings as a team played better with Brad Johnson speaks volumes ! The "D" played better with a different QB. The speacial teams were more motivated with a different QB. The team went 7 & 2 with a different QB. 4 passes over 40 yrds and 7 & 2, I'll take that any day.


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I don't know how you can come to the decision that the Vikings are better off w/o Pepp


Lastly, How could you ever want to keep a guy who pulled a Ron Artest and quite clearly stated he wanted out. He doesnt want to be there. As a player how could you bitch about an organization that (at first ) was willing to stand behind you, when in your recent past includes  roasting a knee, enjoying a boat trip, Playing the race card accussing both the media and the organization of protecting the white people on the boat, on top of being the leagues leading turnover machine when you were injured. He went Ron Artest! How could you ever want to keep that?



Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 11th, 2006, 3:11pm

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Theres a huge difference between Pepper and the rest of the list. The rest of the list doesnt have an even turnover to Td ratio over 6 playing years. C-pepp is a turnover machine. I dont care how good your defence is, if you QB is not taking care of the ball your gonna loss some games. Espeacially to the better teams. Im not just talking about last year either. How about 2002-2003 when he had 23 picks and 21 fumbles. Ok ,he only lost 8 of the fumbles but the points still made.  


Well this wasnt your excuse the first time...but anyway the last full season c-pep was playing (2004) he threw only 11 picks....and wait he threw for 39 TDs and ran for 2 more....you talking about 2 years ago...this guy was developing...also in 2004 he only fumbled 9 times and lost 4....so tell me how using 2 years ago makes sense? And those are MVP numbers if manning didnt throw 49 touchdowns...dont forget those 39 TDs came with no defense giving turnovers and short fields...


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The fact that the Vikings as a team played better with Brad Johnson speaks volumes ! The "D" played better with a different QB. The speacial teams were more motivated with a different QB. The team went 7 & 2 with a different QB. 4 passes over 40 yrds and 7 & 2, I'll take that any day.


I cant believe you jus said the QB made the defense play better....the defense finally started to make plays and bonded....specials teams once again had nothing to do with brad johnson...and you kindly ignored the fact that they changed the offense....yes they went 7-2...but they changed the offense because the Oline couldnt hold for a long time so quicker routes were given...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 11th, 2006, 8:27pm
Vikings get busy, sign Ben Leber, Chester Taylor and Ryan Longwell:


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/03/11/bc.fbn.vikings.longwell.ap/index.html

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Mar 11th, 2006, 8:58pm
Here's a good little article about Daunte's woes and lack of suitors:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9301001



On Friday, published reports had him all but packed for the Oakland Raiders, with several media outlets weighing in on the possibility of a Randy-Daunte reunion. Then, when the Raiders cut starting quarterback Kerry Collins later in the day, a trade for Culpepper looked like a sure thing.

Only one problem: It didn't happen. No, check that -- it wasn't close to happening.

Ask the Vikings. Ask the Raiders. They'll tell you. Well, at least one side will.

"There was no real offer," said a source close to the situation, "because the Raiders weren't interested. They looked into it, but they weren't interested."

And the reason?

"The same reason Baltimore backed off," said the source. "(Culpepper) has bad knees that won't allow him to practice until August."


I've also read that no one wants to give up a second round pick for Daunte's knees.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by steelkings on Mar 11th, 2006, 8:59pm

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Well this wasnt your excuse the first time...but anyway the last full season c-pep was playing (2004) he threw only 11 picks....and wait he threw for 39 TDs and ran for 2 more....you talking about 2 years ago...this guy was developing...


That doesnt make any sence.


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I cant believe you jus said the QB made the defense play better....


WOW! You are right. A team rallys around a guy they believe in. No way. No, Im sure Artest didnt lose the locker room in minny. Im sure everyone was behind old ronny Culpesster 100%.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 11th, 2006, 10:12pm

on 03/11/06 at 20:27:19, BarnabyWilde wrote:
Vikings get busy, sign Ben Leber, Chester Taylor and Ryan Longwell:


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/03/11/bc.fbn.vikings.longwell.ap/index.html


I hope Chester Taylor gets a chance to be the feature back in M innesota and they finally get rid of the dreaded RBBC. However, with Childress being there, they will probably go to the RBBC like they tried to have in Philly. ?.?.? >:(

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Mar 12th, 2006, 12:47pm

on 03/11/06 at 22:12:12, DirkDiggler wrote:
I hope Chester Taylor gets a chance to be the feature back in M innesota and they finally get rid of the dreaded RBBC. However, with Childress being there, they will probably go to the RBBC like they tried to have in Philly. ?.?.? >:(


Taylor will be the featured back.  He will get the ball 20-30 times.  Here is the link to the article that discusses all of the Vikes offseason moves.  One of their biggest moves would be pulled off if they can get Steve Hutchinson(Seattles transition player).  

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14081929.htm

"I am really excited about this opportunity I have been given," RB Chester Taylor said. "I played behind RB Jamal Lewis for four years, and standing on the sideline was just killing me a little bit, but I did what I had to do." Now, Taylor could do much more, perhaps touching the ball "20 to 30 times" a game, according to HC Childress. "Chester is a complete running back, who is thrilled to be featured in a West Coast attack," Taylor's agent, Ken Sarnoff, said.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 12th, 2006, 4:14pm
From "The REAL Feed":

Vikings sign three, retain Koren Robinson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/03/11/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.signings.2nd.ld.writethru.0692/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (12.03.2006 09:40)

What do you all think are the chances Robinson eventually (inevitably) becomes the go-to wideout in Minnesota??? [smiley=thinking.gif]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 12th, 2006, 4:48pm
vikings close to signing hutchinson?

Vikings | Hutchinson signed to offer sheet Published Sun Mar 12 4:20:00 p.m. ET 2006
(KFFL) Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports free agent OG Steve Hutchinson (Seahawks) has been signed to an offer sheet worth $49 million over seven years. The deal includes $16 million in guaranteed money and holds a very high salary cap number for the first year. The Vikings are using a high cap number for the first year to prevent the Seattle Seahawks from matching the offer.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 12th, 2006, 5:04pm
here is something interesting

Vikings | Hutchinson will become highest paid guard in history Published Sun Mar 12 5:01:00 p.m. ET 2006
(KFFL) Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports Seattle Seahawks transition free agent OG Steve Hutchinson (Seahawks) will become the highest paid guard in NFL history with the offer sheet he signed from the Minnesota Vikings. Hutchinson is set to earn $49 million over seven years, with $16 million in guaranteed money.  

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 12th, 2006, 5:05pm
We'll see how that pans out...  Hutch will NOT be easy to strip away from the Seahawks, bottom line, speculation aside...  From "the Gridiron Newsstand (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/newsstand.htm)" (the place where you should always look to dig into "potentially hyperbolized/sensationalized" reports from other FF sites, who tend to "jump the gun" for the sake of garnering attention), here's the very terse, unpresumptous LOCAL report from which all springs forth:

"Vikings extend offer to Steve Hutchinson (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/301908.html)"

...

And, by the way, I really do not want my question regarding K-Rob from my last post lost in the shuffle.  Responses will be appreciated! :)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 12th, 2006, 5:07pm
if K-rob stays off the dope he will be a fine #1 WR....i wonder if they will bring burelson back...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 14th, 2006, 2:12pm
Culpepper on his way to Miami (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/306487.html)

It's official!   Pepp for a 2nd rounder from Miami.  This really hurts all Vikings from a fantasy perspective...see the Viking Team Report (http://www.ffpro.com/teamreports/vikings/vikings-footballinfoframes.htm) for my analysis on that.

But in general, the Vikings definitely weakened themselves with this move.  Unless they bring in someone who still has an arm, like Frerotte, they've lost all big play ability.  Granted, Childress & Co. are planning on going to a WCO, but you still need the threat of a big play, which Minnesota just won't have going forward.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 20th, 2006, 6:41pm
K-Rob is lookin' more and more potentially delicious for '06...  From "The REAL Feed":

Pasquarelli: Burleson among restricted bargains (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2376688&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (20.03.2006 17:00)
WR Nate Burleson is one of 10 available restricted free agents who could be considered attractive bargains, writes Len Pasquarelli.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 21st, 2006, 3:13pm
Vikings | Team agrees to contract with Richardson
Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:59:43 -0800

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the Minnesota Vikings have agreed to a two-year contract with free agent FB Tony Richardson (Chiefs). The deal will pay Richardson about $2.5 million.


Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 21st, 2006, 3:14pm
Vikings add fullback. (http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2006/03/21/peterson_responds_to_tony_richardson_signing_with_vikings/)

Vikings added one of the best FBs available.   The running game of the Vikings is getting a lot of emphasis this off season.   Expect Chester Taylor to be given every opportunity to have a great year.   It's all up to him now!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 21st, 2006, 3:14pm
Seahawks | Team does not match offer to Hutchinson
Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:13:13 -0800

John Clayton, of ESPN.com, reports the Seattle Seahawks have not matched the offer the Minnesota Vikings made to Seahawks transition free agent OG Steve Hutchinson. Hutchinson now becomes a member of the Vikings. The Seahawks will save $6.391 in salary cap by letting Hutchinson leave.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 22nd, 2006, 10:30am
Nate Burleson, a RFA with 3rd round compensation attached, has visited Seattle.    There's a few rumblings around the net that he signed an offer sheet.  

I can't find it anywhere on the majors, nor is Seattle news on it, so it may be just a rumor.   But stay tuned!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by steelkings on Mar 22nd, 2006, 5:22pm

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I'll withhold my judgement on the trade until I see where he goes and what the compensation is...but I don't think there's any way a true football person could say, with a straight face, the Vikings will be better w/o Pepp.

Capn



Quote:
i totally disagree with your comments and i cant believe people give up on players so easily...



Not to beat a Dead Horse but.....I got the head Viking Fan on my side.

"In some of our discussions," Childress said, "everything became about being a $10 million-a-year quarterback. I was listening as I was talking about, 'Well, you need to be up here, you need to rehab, we'd like to have our hands on you.'
"It just became a deal where I didn't feel like it was the team. I felt like it was 'me.' And I went through a big 'me' situation last year with a guy who was all about 'me.' "


http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14147157.htm

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 22nd, 2006, 5:46pm
trust me you arent beating anything :) the fact of the matter is Culpepper is a solid player...you gave up on him as a PLAYER....and then when we were discussing...you gave lame comments instead of actually putting anything behind your comments.  And because Childress says he was a "me" type player, doesnt mean squat to me...childress spent what....3 hours with c-pep?  In 2004 he lead that team...he decided he didnt wanna be in minnesota and he forced his way out....which was probably best for him...


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Well this wasnt your excuse the first time...but anyway the last full season c-pep was playing (2004) he threw only 11 picks....and wait he threw for 39 TDs and ran for 2 more....you talking about 2 years ago...this guy was developing...also in 2004 he only fumbled 9 times and lost 4....so tell me how using 2 years ago makes sense? And those are MVP numbers if manning didnt throw 49 touchdowns...dont forget those 39 TDs came with no defense giving turnovers and short fields...


if you cant understand this then i dont know why you are talking to me about culpepper....he had a MVP season in 2004.....plain and simple...he lead his team...and im done talking about it....

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 22nd, 2006, 6:29pm

on 03/22/06 at 17:22:38, steelkings wrote:
Not to beat a Dead Horse but.....I got the head Viking Fan on my side.

"In some of our discussions," Childress said, "everything became about being a $10 million-a-year quarterback. I was listening as I was talking about, 'Well, you need to be up here, you need to rehab, we'd like to have our hands on you.'
"It just became a deal where I didn't feel like it was the team. I felt like it was 'me.' And I went through a big 'me' situation last year with a guy who was all about 'me.' "


http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14147157.htm


i stand by my comment, the Vikings are NOT a better football team without Culpepper.  They might be a better group of friends....LoveBoat Part Deux may be a bit lovier... ::)     on second thought...probably not!   ;D :o [smiley=boobies.gif]

Anyway, they aren't a better football team.   NOW....that said....I truly don't think Pepp is a WCO QB.   He's a big play guy with a cannon for an arm and a huge running threat (pre injury anyway).   The WCO is all about timing, accuracy and execution.  These aren't a problem for BJ, so I do think he'll have a nice season this year.

And all you "I told ya so"s  will come outta the woodwork saying you never liked Pepp and you knew he sucked.  

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by steelkings on Mar 23rd, 2006, 6:22am

Quote:
And all you "I told ya so"s  will come outta the woodwork saying you never liked Pepp and you knew he sucked.    


I do enjoy the Vikings. However you are right, I never liked C-Pepp. I thought Tom Brady was a bad Idea too, so it shows you what I know.

I really think the Vikings should move up in the draft and try and nab Cutler. Then in the future (Near future) they will be a better football team.


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you gave lame comments instead of actually putting anything behind your comments.


Since your not talking about it anymore ...and I'm a lame kinda guy, I might as well get in the last words..

An MVP hasen't and never will come from an 8 and 8 team....

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 23rd, 2006, 9:54am

on 03/23/06 at 06:22:14, steelkings wrote:
I really think the Vikings should move up in the draft and try and nab Cutler. Then in the future (Near future) they will be a better football team.


[smiley=pray.gif] [smiley=pray.gif] [smiley=pray.gif] [smiley=pray.gif] [smiley=pray.gif] [smiley=pray.gif] [smiley=pray.gif] [smiley=pray.gif] [smiley=pray.gif]

From your mouth to God's ears bra'!  

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 23rd, 2006, 10:45am
Vikings luring starting QB from Philadelphia! (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/324687.html)

:D [smiley=LMFAO.gif]


OK, but McMahon was a starter there!  Not sure what Childress' fascination is with this guy, but he's still young and probably signs cheap.  He'll compete with O'Sullivan for the backup job behind Johnson.

Most of the Viking faithful believe the Vikings will make a move in the draft for a QB.  If Culter slides below the top 10, dont be suprised to see the Vikings package their 2 2nd rounders to hop up and get him.  If he goes early, there's still Omar Jacobs, who could be had with one of those 2nd rounders.  

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 23rd, 2006, 4:14pm
Not only McMahon, but also Saftey Tank Williams:

http://www.startribune.com/503/story/326352.html

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 25th, 2006, 12:12am
Circumstances dictate...  K-Rob's fantasy value continues to sky-rocket...  From "The REAL Feed":

Revenge motive? Seattle signs away Vikings' Burleson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2383020&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (24.03.2006 21:06)
Seeking another playmaker for their already potent offense, and looking for a little payback as well, the Seahawks on Friday signed Vikings wide receiver Nate Burleson to a restricted free agent offer sheet worth $49 million over seven years.


What are the chances the Vikings even try to retain him???

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 25th, 2006, 1:01am
read the seahawk report to find out stegger....

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 25th, 2006, 2:03am
Yea, soso, I had seen those posts...  They don't really answer my question, though, at least not any more than the article that is linked to hereabove does...  Another way to put that...  I'm wondering what you guys (who have put some thought into it) think...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 25th, 2006, 2:26am
well there is a stipulation in the contract.....that if Burelson plays a certain amount of games in minnesota....the whole contract is guarenteed....no way the vikings guarentee 49 million to burelson....so that is what i think...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 25th, 2006, 1:50pm
And, K-Rob's value?!?!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by sameoldsameold on Mar 25th, 2006, 3:00pm
IF K-rob stays off the DOPE...keeps up what he has been doing...i think he can be a fine WR....his value does go up of course with Burelson out of the way...I think K-rob will actually have a nice year....barring a eric moulds trade or something insane....he should post probably close to 800-1000 yards and 6-8 TDs....if they keep the current WRs they have now....

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by KillerKingSting on Mar 25th, 2006, 3:43pm
not if Mike McMahon is tossin the rock.

BWwawawahahwwwhahaha [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 27th, 2006, 10:54am
I like KRob a lot more now that this has happened.  It will really solidify him in the #1 role.  One that I think Burleson would've held onto had he stayed.  

But with a new offense, an ancient QB who rarely tops 200yds/game, and a revamped running game, I don't see a huge year from KRob either.  soso's 6-8 TDs is a good estimate IMO.   On a fantasy roster, I'd rate KRob a mid-#2 at this point.


Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Mar 31st, 2006, 10:31pm

on 03/22/06 at 10:30:46, captainpurple wrote:
Nate Burleson, a RFA with 3rd round compensation attached, has visited Seattle.    There's a few rumblings around the net that he signed an offer sheet.  

I can't find it anywhere on the majors, nor is Seattle news on it, so it may be just a rumor.   But stay tuned!


The made it official today:

Vikings won't match Burleson's Seattle offer. (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/343970.html)

Not a big suprise here, but I think Burleson could've had a very nice season in Minnesota's new offensive scheme.  IMO, this hurts Burleson's value.  He's now on a team with a stellar running game, a defined #1 in Jackson, and serious starting competition in Engram, (I think he can beat out Warrick).  I don't see much more than 40 recs and 3-4 TDs for Burleson this year.

As for the Vikings, as our illustrious colleague  ::)  the Stegman has intimated, this raises KRob's status somewhat.   Remember, there's still Wiggins, MRob (for now anyway) and Taylor on the roster, as well as a new, and serious emphasis on the WCO RB out of the back field.  Williamson is expected to be a bigger factor this year too, stretching the field.   So Koren is probably not looking at any more than 60 recs.  Wiggins, MRob and Taylor get the majority of RZ looks, so don't expect much more than 6-7 TDs.  

All in all, he makes a mid-#2 to High #3, but I wouldn't put him in a #1 role fantasy-wise yet.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Apr 5th, 2006, 10:32am

The Vikings are making inquiries into trading for ATLs Schaub.  He's certainly the best non-FA QB out there right now.  He'll be unrestricted next year, so he's going to get a nice fat contract next year, and therefore is probably going to expect that payday if someone comes looking for him this year.  I think the Vikings are looking at the 3 QBs in the draft and saying "Hey, we have to pay these guys a ton of dough and they've never played.  Schaub looks good and could maybe be had for that 1st rounder, or 1st and a 2nd."

Stay tuned to see if they decide to make a move going into draft day.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 6th, 2006, 12:05am

on 03/31/06 at 22:31:22, captainpurple wrote:
...as our illustrious colleague  ::)  the Stegman...


What does that (::)) mean??? >:(

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 6th, 2006, 5:53am
Vikes still got A LOT of cap room...  From a LOCAL source on "The REAL Feed":

Spending could continue (http://www.kentucky.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14273677.htm?source=rss&channel=twincities_football)
St. Paul Pioneer Press: Football (06.04.2006 04:48)
When free agency opened last month, the Vikings were an NFL-best $31 million under the $102 million salary cap. Less than a month later, Minnesota has plummeted to 11th in the league, with $13.5 million in room under the cap.


[smiley=money.gif] Who else shall they afford??? [smiley=wiseguy.gif] There is some print coverage here of that Schaub talk cp was making mention of...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Apr 6th, 2006, 2:36pm

on 04/06/06 at 00:05:05, StegRock wrote:
What does that (::)) mean??? >:(



;D  jus' rufflin' yer feathers a bit there Stegmeister.  I was feelin' frisky that day I guess!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 11th, 2006, 11:39pm
Draft plans... seem to put an QB squarely on the Vikes radar... [smiley=radar.gif] From a LOCAL source on "The REAL Feed":

QB wanted, will train (http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14312376.htm?source=rss&channel=twincities_football)
St. Paul Pioneer Press: Football (11.04.2006 06:24)
With a three-day veteran minicamp behind the Vikings, coach Brad Childress and his staff on Monday turned their attention to the April 29-30 NFL draft.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 17th, 2006, 8:51pm
Vikes sniff around Young...  From "The REAL Feed":

Vikings, interested in grooming a QB, host Young (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2411842&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (17.04.2006 19:54)
Quarterback Vince Young paid a predraft visit to the Minnesota Vikings on Monday.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Apr 18th, 2006, 1:41pm

on 04/17/06 at 20:51:46, StegRock wrote:
Vikes sniff around Young...  From "The REAL Feed":

Vikings, interested in grooming a QB, host Young (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2411842&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (17.04.2006 19:54)
Quarterback Vince Young paid a predraft visit to the Minnesota Vikings on Monday.


Rumors are still swirling that the Vikes will trade the #1 pick for Matt Schaub.   However, Atlanta wouldn't give him up in the deal for Abraham, so they may not give him up now.....



Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Apr 20th, 2006, 4:43pm
In what should be highlighted on The Factor as the ridiculous item of the day, Moe Williams is found guilty of disorderly conduct. (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2415358)

This doesn't have much to do with the fantasy aspect of the game; however, the last sentence was a tidbit I hadn't seen before.   In a sense, this will solidify Ciatrick Fason as the short yardage back for the Vikings.  True, we need to see how Taylor does in Childress new offense, but it still raises Fason a few decimal points.


Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 25th, 2006, 4:00pm
Draft insights and coverage from LOCAL AND big news media sources on "The REAL Feed (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/newsstand.htm)":

Vikings in line to pick linebacker (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14419946.htm?source=rss&channel=twincities_football)
St. Paul Pioneer Press: Football (25.04.2006 04:45)
The Vikings have an unusual opportunity to address one of their glaring needs in this weekend's NFL draft. "I think you can look at the linebacker position and say this is probably as strong a group as we've had in a while," Tennessee Titans general manager Floyd Reese said.


DRAFT 2006: Do Vikings look to future or present? (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/04/25/2020.ap.fbn.draft.vikings.0726/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (25.04.2006 04:45)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Apr 26th, 2006, 8:36am
Here's another draft need for the Vikes:

Onterrio Smith, who carried Whizzinator, won't be reinstated (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/14427312.htm)
The Mercury News(04/26/06)

Without Smith as an option, the Vikings could now be looking for more depth at running back. Currently, Chester Taylor, Mewelde Moore, Ciatrick Fason and Adimchinobe Echemandu are the only running backs on the Vikings' roster.


Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 26th, 2006, 10:21pm
Not reinstated,... not useful,... not on a team... according to "The REAL Feed":

Vikings release suspended running back Onterrio Smith (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/04/26/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.smith.1st.ld.writethru.0486/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (26.04.2006 21:04)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 27th, 2006, 6:25am
Draft insight from a LOCAL source on "The REAL Feed":

Will Vikings move up? (http://www.kentucky.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14437386.htm?source=rss&channel=twincities_football)
St. Paul Pioneer Press: Football (27.04.2006 05:45)
11 A.M. SATURDAY, ESPN When they're not bunkered in draft rooms, tinkering with their boards and debating the pros and cons of players, NFL personnel executives regularly engage in informal talks with their peers about exchanging picks.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Apr 27th, 2006, 3:22pm
More LOCAL draft insight from "The REAL Feed":

Character, speed top priorities (http://www.sunherald.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14437390.htm?source=rss&channel=twincities_football)
St. Paul Pioneer Press: Football (27.04.2006 09:42)
The Vikings aren't tipping their hand about which players they're considering for this weekend's NFL draft, but whoever they select will have to score high in two areas: character and speed.


Given today's game, "simply put", those are two pretty good attributes to go by.  Anymore, they represent the key one as matters on the field and the key one as matters off the field.  Surely, not the end,... but not a bad place to start. [smiley=yes.gif] I guess the Vikes management is learning their lessons. [smiley=graduate.gif]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 1st, 2006, 6:55am
"Day After" take from a LOCAL source on "The REAL Feed":

Childress confident in QB Jackson (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14469425.htm?source=rss&channel=twincities_football)
St. Paul Pioneer Press: Football (01.05.2006 04:27)
The Vikings surprised some NFL observers Saturday when they drafted Alabama State quarterback Tarvaris Jackson with the last pick of the second round, but coach Brad Childress said he never gave it a second thought.


Could this guy really end up being Minnesota's future at quarterback???

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on May 11th, 2006, 12:28am
Worth keeping an eye on,... perhaps...  Currently topping "The REAL Feed":

Williamson has abscess removed from hip, will miss mini-camp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/05/10/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.williamson.0117/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (10.05.2006 23:04)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 3rd, 2006, 4:22pm
Chester Taylor on himself...  From a LOCAL source on "The REAL Feed":

Taylor eager for new challenges (http://www.realcities.com/mld/twincities/sports/football/14730103.htm?source=rss&channel=twincities_football)
St. Paul Pioneer Press: Football (03.06.2006 16:00)
The misnomer known as the NFL offseason ground on for the Vikings as 45 rookies and select veterans wrapped up another round of OTAs (organized team activities) Friday at Winter Park.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 21st, 2006, 6:08am
Williamson's healed up and looking to have strong showing in '06... according to "The REAL Feed":

Hip healed, Williamson ready to get going again (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/06/20/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.williamson.0558/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (20.06.2006 20:36)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 6th, 2006, 7:21pm
It's HOT atop "The REAL Feed (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/newsstand.htm)"...

Vikings Kick Off 2006 Previews (http://football.about.com/b/a/111087.htm)
About.com: Football (06.07.2006 19:07)
The weeks leading to the opening of training camps around the league is a notoriously slow period for NFL news, and this year is no exception. So I guess...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 7th, 2006, 8:38pm
I think Koren Robinson may just pull a "Cris Carter" in Minnesota...  Currently atop "The REAL Feed":

Vikings' Robinson: I'm still good (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/07/07/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.robinson.0681/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (07.07.2006 20:05)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 18th, 2006, 7:48pm
2nd Rounder in... according to sources on "The REAL Feed":

Vikings lock up second-round pick (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN4031047.htm)
The Sports Network: NFL (18.07.2006 18:30)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Jul 25th, 2006, 9:22pm
Vikings sign Dwight Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2529748)


HUGE signing for the Vikings, who went into this season needing a safety.  Smith is prolly on the latter side of his career, but is intimately familiar with the "Tampa 2" the Vikings will employ this year.

Add Smith to Sharper, Smoot & Winfield, and the Vikings definitely have one of the best DB backfield in the league.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 26th, 2006, 9:41pm
The guy who could be the starting QB by season's end as I see it has signed... according to what's currently topping "The REAL Feed":

Vikings sign QB Jackson (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/07/26/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.jackson.0202/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (26.07.2006 21:07)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 27th, 2006, 7:53pm
Chad has taken the "Green [smiley=greedy.gif] way"... right into training camp... according to "The REAL Feed":

Vikings agree to terms with first-round pick (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/07/27/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.greenway.0322/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (27.07.2006 19:15)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 29th, 2006, 10:36pm
THIS... is a guy to keep your eagle eye on, fellas...  From "The REAL Feed":

Jackson trying to make name for himself (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/07/29/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.jackson.0764/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (29.07.2006 21:07)

Title: Vikings Training Camp News
Post by Larsen89 on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:23pm

By KFAN:
Thursday afternoon notes, revenge of the offense
After yesterday's hit fest, the offense clearly wanted to come out today and establish that they too can play with intensity. With referees in town warming up for tonmorrow night's visit from the Chiefs, the offense sparkled, making big plays and hitting the defense in the mouth.

"It's going well, there's still some details we need to work out," said offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell. "I think today was one of out better days. You know the guys are starting to buy in, they're starting to detail their performance and pay attention to the little things that re going to win games for us, and like I said, today was a good barometer of where we're at."

While the perfomrance of the offense was solid, the big news was that barring a break out performance by someone, Mewelde Moore will be the starting punt returner.

"Mewelde, as of right now today, is our punt returner," said special teams coach Paul Ferraro. "He certainly did a good job and was at a high level a year ago with that. But we're working some different people back there. Darren Sharper is taking some, Travis Taylor has taken some, we have some rookies in camp that will be in the pre-season games getting an opportunity. So Mewelde is our number one guy."

In addition to punt returns, Moore has been taking some kickoffs as of late. As I reported a few days ago, he's been out early with guys like Kevin Kasper, Charles Gordon and Jason Carter. Today, both Troy Williamson, who sat out all special teams drills earlier in camp, and Koren Robinson were fielding kickoffs.

-Dez White was again in shorts with his knee wrapped. He could easily see he chances at making the team evaporate.

-Brad Johnson was sharp again after a so-so day yesterday. He hooked up with Jermaine Wiggins on a nice TD, and put the ball on the money most of the time.

-Troy Williamson made several nice long catches, including one over Fred Smoot in 7-on-7 drills. Williamson was another stand out today, showing off great hands on several occasions. Smoot appeared on P.A. and Dubay after practice today, listen to the podcast at KFAN dot com.

-Today marks the first time all camp I've seen Jason Carter drop a ball. That's it, he's dead to me.

-Chris Jones made a few sweet grabs, including a diving catch on a pass thrown by J.T. O'Sullivan.

-Tarvaris Jackson continues to show off his cannon, but today did his best J.T. O'Sullivan impression, holding the ball on a few occasions. He's so young and so raw that he's going to have tough days, but man can that kid fire the football.


- Chester Taylor looks strong and fast and with how little he's been hit the last 4 years, he could be a guy to watch for all you fantasy football guys.


Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:31pm
But, what's the word on Koren Robinson...???  He's the key on this team,... especially given the way Johnson likes to throw,... short that is.  Come game-time he won't be chuckin' all too many looooong balls... to Williamson.  The "realization" of Williamson will come in (the proverbial) Year Three (for receivers) or Year Four, and with Jackson.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:43pm
KRobinson will struggle to be a #1 fantasy WR this year.  Johnson is too good about going through his progression and hitting the open guy.   I think you'll see 4 or 5 Viking WRs with 3 (or less) TDs.   KRob will probably nail down the #1 WR spot in the Vikings offense, but his #s are going to be meager compared to other #1s  (I'm thinking about 65-70 catches with 6 TDs).  

Now, if he continues to return KOs, then his value increases.  I don't see it though.   Memo looks to have the PR job nailed down, and I can't see risking the #1 WR for KOs, unless everyone else they throw back there really struggle.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:51pm

on 08/03/06 at 17:43:04, captainpurple wrote:
Now, if he continues to return KOs, then his value increases.  I don't see it though.   Memo looks to have the PR job nailed down, and I can't see risking the #1 WR for KOs, unless everyone else they throw back there really struggle.


[offtopic]That is... assuming your league counts KO return stats for your receiver.  I know the GBRFL, e.g., doesn't, in which case his returning kickoffs is just an undue risk of... [smiley=injury.gif][/offtopic]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Larsen89 on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:53pm

on 08/03/06 at 17:31:02, StegRock wrote:
But, what's the word on Koren Robinson...???  He's the key on this team,... especially given the way Johnson likes to throw,... short that is.  Come game-time he won't be chuckin' all too many looooong balls... to Williamson.  The "realization" of Williamson will come in (the proverbial) Year Three (for receivers) or Year Four, and with Jackson.


I know it's not an actual game, but found this note from Vikings camp, kind of amusing, after your comment.

From KFAN:
-Brad Johnson was not as sharp today as he has been since arriving. He ran a little hot and cold, but did find Troy Williamson on a 55-yard bomb off of play action.

So you see, it could happen.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 3rd, 2006, 5:55pm
::)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Larsen89 on Aug 3rd, 2006, 7:21pm
Steg,

Here is your Koren Robinson update:    ;D

Via the StarTrib:
The Vikings have been working on some creative plays in recent days. The most recent was a reverse that featured a Koren Robinson completion to Travis Taylor. Taylor, by the way, has looked very good in camp so far.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 6th, 2006, 2:57am
Knee injury to the Vikes' "Tank" on D...  From "The REAL Feed":

Briefs: Vikes S carted off with knee injury (http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9587828/rss)
CBS SportsLine.com NFL News (05.08.2006 23:11)
Saturday's NFL news briefs: Minnesota Vikings strong safety Tank Williams was carted off the field on Saturday after injuring his left knee during a training camp practice.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Larsen89 on Aug 6th, 2006, 8:09pm
Troy Williamson, Mewelde Mooore

By KFAN:

Troy Williamson had another stand out day. He did drop one quick out, but everything else was great. Brad Johnson found Williamson down the sideline over Fred Smoot and he made a great adjustment to an under-thrown ball against Antoine Winfield. If Williamson keeps this up he's primed for a big season.


Mewelde Moore got the snaps with the first team today and looked good catching the ball and running. However he needed a little coaching in pass protection. Chester Taylor has a leg up here and like I've said before, pass protection is going to be a big reason Taylor stays on the field.



Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Larsen89 on Aug 6th, 2006, 8:14pm
More Williamson;

By VikingUpdate:

WILLIAMSON CONTINUES STRONG CAMP

With Marcus Robinson attending a family funeral, second-year receiver Troy Williamson is taking advantage of time with the starting unit, making several nice catches, some deep and some diving, over the last two days.

I feel like everything is coming together, he said. Im just doing what I need to do.

Childress said that when he was hired, his opinion was that Williamson was strictly a speed receiver, only capable of making plays down the field. But as he watched Williamson, Childress said that opinion has changed.

He's niftier, more nimble, he has more wiggle than I thought, Childress said.

Childress said that Williamson has shown good hands and the ability to go over the middle and catch balls in traffic.

Robinson is expected back in Mankato Sunday night and should practice

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Aug 14th, 2006, 9:41am
Anybody in a keeper league out there wondering "Who is the Jackson kid in Minnesota?"?

Tonight's your first chance to find out.  Is TJ worth a pick in a keeper league?   Can he be stashed away for a 2-3 years and then be the next McNabb?

Tough to tell so far.  He's shown off a fabulous arm in camp, but has struggle in more complex situations, as would any rookie.   It's doubtful he warrants more than a very late pick, even in keeper leagues, but let's see what the kid has tonight!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 14th, 2006, 3:34pm

on 08/14/06 at 09:41:00, captainpurple wrote:
Anybody in a keeper league out there wondering "Who is the Jackson kid in Minnesota?"?

Tonight's your first chance to find out.  Is TJ worth a pick in a keeper league?   Can he be stashed away for a 2-3 years and then be the next McNabb?

Tough to tell so far.  He's shown off a fabulous arm in camp, but has struggle in more complex situations, as would any rookie.   It's doubtful he warrants more than a very late pick, even in keeper leagues, but let's see what the kid has tonight!



[smiley=secret.gif]  Shhh..... Don't tell anyone about him.  A lot of us are about to have keeper league drafts.....

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 15th, 2006, 4:47am
Top rook in the shop...  From "The REAL Feed":

Vikings rookie Greenway leaves game with injured left knee (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/14/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.greenway.1st.ld.writethru.0183/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (15.08.2006 01:32)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 15th, 2006, 9:25pm

on 08/15/06 at 04:47:52, StegRock wrote:
Top rook in the shop...  From "The REAL Feed":

Vikings rookie Greenway leaves game with injured left knee (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/14/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.greenway.1st.ld.writethru.0183/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (15.08.2006 01:32)



And ESPN News is now reporting that their #1 pick is now OUT for the the ENTIRE SEASON.  Brutal.....

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 15th, 2006, 10:36pm
Here's a link for that from off "The REAL Feed":

Vikings rookie LB Greenway out for season with knee injury (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/15/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.greenway.1st.ld.writethru.0286/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (15.08.2006 20:17)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Aug 16th, 2006, 9:12am
[smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif] [smiley=alcoholic.gif]

Not the news I wanted to wake up to this morning.   [smiley=frustrated.gif] [smiley=furious.gif] [smiley=fumin.gif]

Koren Robinson arrested on suspicion of DUI. (http://www.startribune.com/510/story/617439.html)

If found guilty, this is probably a 3 strike violation that will get KRob a 1 year suspension.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by BarnabyWilde on Aug 16th, 2006, 11:54am
Yeah, me either CP...me either.  [smiley=no.gif]  :'(

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 16th, 2006, 4:38pm
In the GBRFL... [smiley=no.gif] ... [smiley=bawling.gif]

But, in JYJ's "experts" league... [smiley=dodged.gif] ... ;)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Larsen89 on Aug 16th, 2006, 6:22pm
Yeah, this is NOT cool, just knocked me down to three WR's in the CBFL [smiley=frustrated.gif]

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by MordecaiCourage on Aug 16th, 2006, 9:01pm
Sucks to own him in the fantasy world...in the real world all I can say is after three times and you didn't learn your lesson...what an IDIOT ... hopefully  he gets what he deserves!!!

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 22nd, 2006, 11:00pm
With K-Rob's screw-up and Brad Johnson's love for the short "touch pass" game, Wiggins could be a nice tight-end sleeper [smiley=sleepers.gif] with HUGE potential.  From "The REAL Feed":

Tight focus: Vikings figure to keep Wiggins heavily involved (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/22/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.wiggins.0621/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (22.08.2006 20:12)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Aug 23rd, 2006, 12:01pm

on 08/22/06 at 23:00:34, StegRock wrote:
With K-Rob's screw-up and Brad Johnson's love for the short "touch pass" game, Wiggins could be a nice tight-end sleeper [smiley=sleepers.gif] with HUGE potential.  From "The REAL Feed":

Tight focus: Vikings figure to keep Wiggins heavily involved (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/22/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.wiggins.0621/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (22.08.2006 20:12)


[smiley=secret.gif] [smiley=secret.gif] [smiley=secret.gif] [smiley=secret.gif] [smiley=secret.gif] [smiley=secret.gif]

;)

BTW, the Viking Team Report (http://www.ffpro.com/teamreports/vikings/vikings-footballinfoframes.htm) eludes to this very conclusion, especially if you get ppr.


Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 26th, 2006, 7:13pm
That's that for that...  What a shame!!!  From "The REAL Feed":

Vikings cut Robinson 10 days after car chase arrest (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2562267&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (26.08.2006 18:09)
Wide receiver Koren Robinson was among eight players cut by the Minnesota Vikings on Saturday, 10 days after he was charged with drunken driving and fleeing police.


Through misfortune comes opportunity, though... [smiley=wave.gif] I wonder if Travis Taylor will finally make the most of the opportunity he most surely WILL have now...

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Sep 1st, 2006, 3:37am
What a disappointment Mike McMahon has been...  The team has signed Brooks Bollinger to act as the immediate back-up to Johnson... [smiley=yikes.gif] YIKES!  Currently atop "The REAL Feed":

Report: Vikings acquire Bollinger (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN4038453.htm)
The Sports Network: NFL (31.08.2006 21:38)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Larsen89 on Sep 1st, 2006, 5:43am
Well, I guess (IMO) I wouldn't really call it a disappointment. (McMahon getting cut).  I have never liked the guy going back to his Detroit days, I got what I expected a BELOW AVG. QB!!!!(and I'll say it, he flat out SUCKS!!)  Just because he was in Childress's system last year was basically the only reason he HAD a pre-season job!!! (if you ask me).

Bollinger, well... I guess I can't say I'm thrilled about it, but I do feel a little better about or back up QB here.

Lets say I felt about 20% having McMahon backing up Johnson.  Now I feel about 40% having Bollinger.  You know how it is, right Steg, when you just don't like a player  ;) ....  Hell, I'd feel about 60% having Jackson being the back up, at least I know he can run if he needs to!!!! :)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Sep 1st, 2006, 11:43am

on 09/01/06 at 03:37:16, StegRock wrote:
What a disappointment Mike McMahon has been...  The team has signed Brooks Bollinger to act as the immediate back-up to Johnson... [smiley=yikes.gif] YIKES!  Currently atop "The REAL Feed":

Report: Vikings acquire Bollinger (http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN4038453.htm)
The Sports Network: NFL (31.08.2006 21:38)


To be disappointed, you have to have had some expectations to begin with right?   ::)   :-/    I never believed this guy was worth having on the roster, but he had the #2 spot sewn up due to lack of options.   Bollinger doesn't exactly make my day, but he simply can't  :-X be worse than McMahon has been this preseason against 2nd team Defenses!


on 08/26/06 at 19:13:04, StegRock wrote:
That's that for that...  What a shame!!!  From "The REAL Feed":

Vikings cut Robinson 10 days after car chase arrest (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2562267&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (26.08.2006 18:09)Through misfortune comes opportunity, though... [smiley=wave.gif] I wonder if Travis Taylor will [i]finally make the most of the opportunity he most surely WILL have now...

I wouldn't expect much out of Travis.   From Brad Johnson himself:  "The #1 receiver is the guy who's open".  CLASSIC!   [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif]  Here's how I see receptions and receiving TDs breaking down for the Vikings this year:

Chester Taylor - 60 recs, 5 TDs
Jermaine Wiggins - 67 recs, 2 TDs
Troy Williamson - 45 recs, 4 TDs
Travis Taylor - 40 recs, 3 TDs
Marcus Robinson - 35 recs, 5 TDs

Obviously there will be some discrepancies there, but the majority of balls will be to the TE and RB in this offense.  MRob is a great RZ threat, and will probably get some sniper TDs.  

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Larsen89 on Sep 1st, 2006, 1:27pm
Chester Taylor - 60 recs, 5 TDs
Jermaine Wiggins - 67 recs, 2 TDs
Troy Williamson - 45 recs, 4 TDs
Travis Taylor - 40 recs, 3 TDs
Marcus Robinson - 35 recs, 5 TDs

Not bad, but like you said there will be descrepancies on that, or maybe I'm just hoping for a turn around where the TE isn't the damn leading receiver!!! :-/

I personally believe that one of those 3 WR's above, will get somewhere between 7-9 tds, I don't know WHO, but I think that will be the case.  I know I'm hoping for a hell of alot better/bigger things out of Williamson than 45/4!!!  (at least I want them to be)  I'm hoping for at least 55/6.  I think that's pretty achieveable.

Interesting thing I noticed, with what you have above, Brad Johnson's passing touchdowns would be 19, that's not even including the silent touchdowns that may happen, does Richardson catch just one sometime?  Kleinsasser catch just one sometime?  Moore if he's playing, does he catch just one sometime?  

I guess 19-22 TD's from an "old" QB, isn't to bad, (hopefully it's a little more) lets hope he keeps his ints down like last year.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by Larsen89 on Sep 1st, 2006, 1:49pm
Hey CP, I noticed you said something about majority of the balls will go to the TE/RB's in this offense?  I beg to differ.  I guess I'm wrong though if you combine the TE/RB position together, but individually, WR's seem to be the first target.

Did you realize that  47.8% of all the completed balls passed in "this offense" in Philadelphia last year went to WR's.

30% went to RB's, 22.2% went to the TE's, so I'm not really sure where you are getting your information?

Your projections are pretty much right on cue with the top 5 receivers from the Eagles squad last year.  But to say majority of the balls go to the RB's and WR's is a little off I think.   :-/

I think people really misjudge that, because there has been one TE, and one RB that stood out and got alot of receptions, (61 Westbrook, 61 LJ Smith).  This just using the Eagles as an example because of Childress.

Just some information to chew on.

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Sep 2nd, 2006, 7:22pm
On the day when NFL teams "stun their players with pink slips", the Vikes "slip Pinkston by their players"... according to "The REAL Feed":

Vikings sign veteran WR Pinkston (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/09/02/2020.ap.fbn.vikings.pinkston.0264/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (02.09.2006 18:07)

Title: Re: Vikings Offseason Report
Post by captainpurple on Sep 2nd, 2006, 7:39pm

on 09/01/06 at 13:49:36, Larsen89 wrote:
Hey CP, I noticed you said something about majority of the balls will go to the TE/RB's in this offense?  I beg to differ.  I guess I'm wrong though if you combine the TE/RB position together, but individually, WR's seem to be the first target.

Did you realize that  47.8% of all the completed balls passed in "this offense" in Philadelphia last year went to WR's.

30% went to RB's, 22.2% went to the TE's, so I'm not really sure where you are getting your information?

Your projections are pretty much right on cue with the top 5 receivers from the Eagles squad last year.  But to say majority of the balls go to the RB's and WR's is a little off I think.   :-/

I think people really misjudge that, because there has been one TE, and one RB that stood out and got alot of receptions, (61 Westbrook, 61 LJ Smith).  This just using the Eagles as an example because of Childress.

Just some information to chew on.


I think the stats you pulled completely support my point.  If you want to go by leading receivers and what positions they play, most balls will go to RB & TE (61 each in 2005).   If you want to go by a total % of passes completed to position (52.2% by your research), most balls will go to the RB & TE.  

One other point, the numbers would probably skew even further to the TE & RB if TO weren't in Philly for the 1st 7 games.  He accumulated 47 recs in those 7 games, almost 7/gm.   There's no guy on the Viking squad that can sustain a 7 catch pace, so expect some of those to go to Wiggins or Chester Taylor.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to have a 80,90 catch guy, but it just aint happening in Minnesota.  



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