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(Message started by: Callie on Mar 21^st, 2006, 11:39pm)

Title: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Mar 21^st, 2006, 11:39pm

The Bears have been quiet during free agency, but this could be an interesting signing:

Griese agrees to five-year deal with Bears

"Brian Griese agreed to a five-year deal with the Chicago Bears on Tuesday, adding depth behind Rex Grossman at quarterback."

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=sports&id=4013402

"The Bears have said they are committed to Rex Grossman as their starter, but Griese has started 72 of 75 games in his career."

...and

"Behind a defense that was ranked No. 1 for much of the season, a strong offensive line and effective running game, the Bears went 11-5 and reached the playoffs for the first time since 2001.

"Grossman's numbers -- 20-of-39 passing for 259 yards in two games -- weren't overwhelming, but the passing game opened up when he returned."

I really love Lovie. Pieces coming in place! Back-ups and competition. [smiley=bear.gif]

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Mar 22^nd, 2006, 7:33pm

Bears Match Bills Offer to Idonije

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?news_id=3677

"We want Israel back," Bears general manager Jerry Angelo told ChicagoBears.com. "We feel that he's a young quality player who's still developing."

Good DL news!

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 23^rd, 2006, 3:57am

Bob's son already stirring the pot... From "The REAL Feed":

Griese hopes Bears keep open mind (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/03/22/2020.ap.fbn.bears.griese.0640/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (22.03.2006 19:18)

In any event, whoever is chucking the ball in Chitown isn't usually much of a get from a fantasy perspective... The REAL question is... Who's going to be toting the rock for them next season? Any inside word on Benson's status? What about Jones? Inquiring minds want to know... [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Chumpzilla on Mar 23^rd, 2006, 5:04am

Everything I've been hearing (via various interviews and sements on NFL radio) cites Jones as the "slam-dunk" starter in CHI with Benson fighting for scraps. Pople feel Smith realizes what he has in the veteran back and will use him accordingly.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Mar 23^rd, 2006, 12:38pm

Azumah to retire after seven NFL seasons

http://chicagobears.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=14727

In 2005, a hip injury that required surgery during training camp robbed Azumah of his explosiveness. He played in 15 games as a nickel back after losing his starting job to Nathan Vasher, who was voted to the Pro Bowl after leading the Bears with eight interceptions.

Azumah, 28, retires third on the Bears' all-time kickoff return list with 2,885 yards, trailing only Glyn Milburn (4,596) and Dennis Gentry (4,353).

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Mar 23^rd, 2006, 5:40pm

on 03/23/06 at 05:04:30, Chumpzilla wrote:

I don't deny that that's how things "appear" right now. I must say, HOWEVER, that I firmly believe that fantasy footballers banking on Jones this year are deluding themselves and setting themselves up for trouble, and those with Benson, who have (relatively) modest expectations are going to be, at least, pleasantly surprised. ... Isn't this the "bait-and-switch" time of year, in any event, when teams with overpaid back-up studs "hype up" their seasoned incumbent, who's coming off a good season or run of seasons, only for (fiscal) reality to set in come July, August or when the incumbent starter gets injured and the overpaid stud back-up pops one or two "bigguns" and the switch takes place?

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Apr 21^st, 2006, 10:49pm

This is a guy the Bears want to land:

Bears sign Panthers' Manning to offer sheet
(http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/san_francisco_49ers/14400713.htm)(AP: 4/21/06)

The Chicago Bears signed restricted free-agent defensive back Ricky Manning Jr. to an offer sheet Friday, with his agent saying the deal is worth up to $21 million over five years.

Manning spent his first three seasons with the Carolina Panthers, who eliminated the Bears from the playoffs last season. The Panthers have until April 28 to match the offer or receive a third-round draft pick from the Bears.

Da Bears seem to love them Panthers! Lovie saw what hurt them, and he WANTS them!

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 1^st, 2006, 6:23pm

This'll have Cedric Benson owners salivating... It sure had me frothin' at the mouth... despite its just being rhetoric... From "The REAL Feed":

Pasquarelli: Second time a charm for Benson and others? (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2466154&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (01.06.2006 17:01)
Cedric Benson was among a number of first-round picks who struggled in 2005. He should have plenty of opportunities to make amends in Year 2.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 3^rd, 2006, 4:28pm

Jones pulling a Benson... and getting punished for it... From "The REAL Feed":

Bears demote RB Jones, LB Briggs at minicamp (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2468962&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (03.06.2006 09:30)
When the Bears began their minicamp Friday, two starters who had bypassed most of the team's voluntary sessions in the offseason were demoted to second-team status.

Sure, this may be "temporary", but do you really think this is NOT the direction the Bears brass want to go in??? Come on, now... This is a time for wise [smiley=zenmaster.gif] fantasy footballers [smiley=footballsmiley.gif] to "realize"... This is likely marking the beginning of a trend, namely the beginning of the end!!!

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 20^th, 2006, 5:02pm

Pro Bowler finally shows up... according to "The REAL Feed":

Vasher returns to Bears practice without new deal (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2492388&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (20.06.2006 11:30)
Nathan Vasher has returned for the final three days of organized activities, and has suggested that his boycott got the attention of Bears officials.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jun 28^th, 2006, 11:48pm

Benson owners... it's officially time to commence salivating in earnest... :D From "The REAL Feed":

Bears, Peterson agree to three-year contract extension (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2503456&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (28.06.2006 21:19)
Adrian Peterson, who in four seasons has proven his value to the Bears as a viable No. 2 tailback and a standout special teams performer, agreed to a three-year contract extension.

I still wouldn't be surprised in Jones somehow finds himself in Indy before it's all said and done.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by GOLF_FREAK on Jun 30^th, 2006, 6:46am

Where's the update on Hunter Hillenmeier getting a 5 year extension?

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Walker Boh on Jul 1^st, 2006, 11:24am

on 06/30/06 at 06:46:06, GOLF_FREAK wrote:

Where's the update on Hunter Hillenmeier getting a 5 year extension?

Your wish is my command... [smiley=wizard.gif]

Bears give Hillenmeyer five-year extension

http://www.sportsnetwork.com/default.asp?c=sportsnetwork&page=nfl/news/ABN4027806.htm

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Walker Boh on Jul 6^th, 2006, 11:21pm

I just posted my first FF-specific team report. Check it out!

http://www.ffpro.com/teamreports/bears/bears-footballinfoframes.htm

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Jul 6^th, 2006, 11:43pm

Great report!

PS - Do you get Bears Blitz on your cable where you are? Wish I did. (Jersey Shore)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Jul 11^th, 2006, 7:58pm

Thu Bears,

Any news on Tim Day? I feel he could be an offensive weapon and nice pick up at Tight End, though probably not an every down player...lacking blocking skills. I really like Dusty Dvoracek as a draft pick, may get some playing time and contribute in rooky season at Defensive Tackle. ?.?.? ::)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Callie on Jul 11^th, 2006, 8:01pm

on 07/11/06 at 19:58:38, cwhams wrote:

Thu Bears,

...I really like Dusty Dvoracek as a draft pick....

I agree big time.

And Welcome, cwhams! [smiley=welcome.gif]

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 26^th, 2006, 9:46pm

Update on the Benson-Jones battle for the starting tailback gig... from "The REAL Feed":

Smith: Bears will have rotation at RB (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/07/26/2020.ap.fbn.bears.smith.500/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (26.07.2006 21:07)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 27^th, 2006, 9:40pm

Let the transition from Jones to Benson begin... From "The REAL Feed":

(This is actually the same AP article, but I thought both headlines from "The REAL Feed" really "paint the picture"...)

Jones gets hurt while taking physical (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/07/27/2020.ap.fbn.bears.camp.0736/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (27.07.2006 20:08)

Unhappy Jones injures hamstring in Bears camp (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2531922&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (27.07.2006 21:05)
Chicago Bears running back Thomas Jones, displeased with his situation on the team, hurt his hamstring during a physical Thursday and missed practice.

It's time to start movin' Benson way up your charts and Jones way down... [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Walker Boh on Jul 27^th, 2006, 10:31pm

Check out my new FF-Specific Team Report!

http://www.ffpro.com/teamreports/bears/bears-footballinfoframes.htm

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Jul 28^th, 2006, 9:24am

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Thomas Jones is the best running back in Chicago since Walter Peyton. Benson is a high paid wanna be, with completely unproven skills at the NFL level.

If Lovie runs TJ out of town, he should have his head examined. You can run Benson up your charts all you want...right now neither Jones or Benson looks real good...Lovie just has not made his mind up what he wants to do...other than throw his weight around and make an example out of proven players not making early camp. Last years coach of the year is making rookie mistakes with his running back situation.

Now don't go saying that I said Benson is no good. I said he is unproven at the NFL level...and that my friends is a fact. I'll take a proven athlete over potential every time and 1300+ yards is proven.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 28^th, 2006, 1:33pm

on 07/28/06 at 09:24:12, cwhams wrote:

Now don't go saying that I said Benson is no good. I said he is unproven at the NFL level...and that my friends is a fact.

Well,... perhaps you didn't exactly say, "No good," BUT you did say this...

Quote:

Benson is a high paid wanna be, with completely unproven skills at the NFL level.

There's a pretty fine line there.

...

In any event, I didn't know you back when Jones was a Cardinal (or Buccaneer). All I know is that right now I would love to know what you were saying about him back then. I can't really, so I'll just take you at your word here and now... and henceforth... regarding Thomas Jones. ... All I know is that if he is feigning a sore hammy because he is upset about things, that's immature and he's cutting off his nose to spite his face. Just do your best. Understand the economics of the game. Understand that you're still somewhat paying the price for your VERY lackluster performance early in your NFL career. And, get out there and showcase your talent for everybody watching, which you know they are. Don't be a baby about it... and potentially really ruin your career!

Regarding Benson,... though yet unproven in the long-haul in the NFL, he is the real deal. There is no more prototypical of a back than him. He was built to run footballs.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Jul 28^th, 2006, 7:01pm

I won't comment on whether or not Thomas Jones is faking a hamstring or not, because only he knows. ?.?.?

I will say that Benson held out for the big paycheck last season and when he did sign and get his chance he got hurt. It was disappointing, because I was real excited about getting Benson last season. Still think he has the potential to contribute in a big way. Just think a bird in the hand is always worth two in the Bush.

Again, the facts speak for themselfs, Jones gained over 1,300 yards last season on a team that had no passing attack and everybody knew they were going to give the ball to Jones and he was going to carry the pill. Steg, Jones made a believer out of me last year and yes I would compare his God given natural athletism to those of Cedric Benson.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 28^th, 2006, 7:14pm

He's made me a believer, too, cwhams,... in his ability. But, that doesn't matter to the reality [smiley=money.gif] of the matter. I don't believe his future is with the Bears. I'm sure he's made a believer of some other clubs as well, one of which he'll probably be playing quality ball for sooner or later, but the sooner the better. Furthermore, from a fantasy perspective, don't let Benson's letting you down last year (like he did me too) coupled with Jones's performance cloud your "fantasy" judgment this year. Those who are still picking/ranking Jones higher than Benson are screwing themselves. Fantasy football judgment is about A LOT more than on-the-field success even if it is recent.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Jul 28^th, 2006, 10:18pm

:D Auhhhhhhh, how sweet it is!!! If Mr. Jones has made a believer out of anybody and gets a shot at a starting gig with a decent line...he still has fantasy value.

Truth is you are right Steg! You just can't spend a #1 draft pick, 4th overall, pay the guy a ton of money and not put him on the field and give him a chance. Tom Jones will very likely be singing the blues elsewhere.

That's the business side of the NFL that I don't like...rookies comming in and making millions more than proven veterans...but it is the reality of the league.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by The_Dog on Jul 29^th, 2006, 8:33am

If there is one team I know it is the Bears.....Cedric Benson screwed himself last year by showing up late and having a couple of nagging injuries that hurt him when Jones went down so he couldn't really show himself. His carries in spot duty were weak in the beginning, but as the year went on they got better and better until he got hurt. You saw alittle bit of his possible greatness.

I am excited for the Bears running back situation. The Bears resigned Adrian Peterson to a large 3 year contract (to large for a 3rd string back that is) I have no expectations for Jones being with the team this season, I truly believe he will be traded in training camp.

Chicago sports radio reported yesterday that the Broncos called looking into the availabilty of Jones and were offering Lehlie and draft choices. Keep and eye on that, I also see him being a perfect fit for the Colts.

http://www.nwherald.com/SportsSection/pro/335769418646255.php

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Jul 29^th, 2006, 5:15pm

I agree with your report and analysis, Doggy... Another team I'd like to throw out there as a possibility (but with no corroboration... other than just good, old-fashioned (NFL) common sense) is the Jets if Curtis Martin just isn't a go or if he evidently starts to slow. I digress (given that this is the Bears Offseason Report thread)... Regarding the possibility of his going to the Broncos (again just applying (football) common sense and nothing else), I don't think he'd be the ideal fit. He's more of a juking slasher in the mold of, well, Curtis Martin vis-a-vis a one-cutter like Terrell Davis. Would he, nevertheless, do well in Denver (even though his skills set wouldn't be being maximized)? Probably. Is he worth Ashley Lelie? DEFINITELY! Given the Broncos backfield configuration, which roll would he likely assume, Dayne's or Bell's? Probably Bell's. So, all in all, I can see it's being a possibility, but while it surely wouldn't be good news for Dayne and, moreover, Bell owners, I do NOT think it would be the "good news" Jones owners might be inclined to think it is. I don't think his going to Denver would improve his potential for this year much over his just remaining in Chicago (though his '07 outlook might be fantastic). For immediate returns, Jones owners have to hope that he ends up either in Indy or with the Jets as I see it. [smiley=threed.gif] ... [smiley=shrug.gif]

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Jul 30^th, 2006, 9:52am

There are plenty of teams who need a Thomas Jones, but don't think the Bears will dispense with him lightly. AGAIN, the only thing proven about Cedric is that he can get hurt and miss virtually an entire season. :o

Adequate compensation and the willingness to give it up for Jones is the bigger question. How much is enough and who is in a position to give it? What do the Bears need most...I'd say they need help in the wide receiver and Tight End spots...could use additional help on the offensive line. Are those commodities avaliable and tradable now, I would not give Jones up for a future draft pick...the future is now for the Bears.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 1^st, 2006, 4:54pm

Well, Lovie may have handed Benson the starting tailback spot, but the defense ain't... That said, to his credit, he's toughin' it out. What may actually prove to be the tougher task for Benson in the end isn't winning the job on the field, a tough enough task, mind you, but winning over the team in the locker room. It won't be for a lack of confidence, though... From "The REAL Feed":

School of hard knocks (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=cr-bears073106&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
Yahoo! News: Democratic Party (01.08.2006 05:06)
BOURBONNAIS, Ill. – Cedric Benson's education as an NFL starter has included a painful lesson from the Bears' defense.

You guys, especially you Benson naysayers, will definitely get a load [smiley=pudwhacker.gif] (no, not that kind of load, you gutter-heads; this kind... [smiley=laugh.gif] ... sheesh) ;) out of "Cedric's 'premature' spike". The tale is told at the end of the article. Enjoy!

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 2^nd, 2006, 1:49am

Well, it looks like Benson has survived the hazing ritual... kind of... It's looking like he is, slowly but surely, winning over the locker-room, but those poundings he's received thus far in camp have taken a bit of a toll as he had to sit out one practice session. But, the former is probably of greater import in the long run. From "The REAL Feed":

Benson working to prove he deserves to be Bears starter (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/01/2020.ap.fbn.bears.camp.1st.ld.writethru.0836/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (02.08.2006 00:38)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Takamine305 on Aug 2^nd, 2006, 1:59am

Which means mr. Benson is also slowly creeping up the draft board!!! Maybe cracking early 2nd round or the late 1st round picks in drafts nearing the season opener should he be named the starter!!

Don't the bears favor the run?? ;) :P

hmmmm, can you tell I'm a bears fan?!?!? 8-)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Aug 4^th, 2006, 8:32pm

:-/ Look, the Bears are my team! I want Benson to do well, but let's deal with the facts. The man has a swollen right KNEE!!! That, by the way, is the same right knee that he had problems with last year.

I look for Thomas's bad hammy to make a quick recovery. Don't trade Mr. Jones to fast, looks like to me you may need a starting running back this season and Peterson is not your guy. I don't see Benson running the ball 26 times a game and staying healthy. Been listening to Lovie on Sirius radio and I think he likes having both Benson and Jones avaliable...we will see if the front office wants to win super bowl or save a few $$$$$$$$.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 5^th, 2006, 2:56am

Uh-oh... From "The REAL Feed":

Benson injures shoulder at Bears camp (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/04/2020.ap.fbn.bears.benson.injury.0278/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (05.08.2006 00:31)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Aug 5^th, 2006, 7:40am

:o Enough said, Thomas Jones will not be traded. He will be taught how to stretch 45 minutes prior to playing.

The defense will to mandated to tone it down a notch in practice, so there is enough offense left to field a team.

I've been to several games at Ward Field, Bourbonais. Olivet Naszerene College is noted for having a very good NAIA football program. Pretty good hospitals there in Kankakee, lucky for the Bears Offensive team. :'(

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by GOLF_FREAK on Aug 5^th, 2006, 8:11am

Benson,

That wasn't even a funny show, he was a butler. What has Benson ever done to show he can make it. Jones has been more than adequate for the Bears and yet he has lost his job in preseason. WHATEVER DUDE!

I think having Benson as a backup is fine, but making him the starter just because he is a high pick, that is garbage.

The only good part of it is we have 3 running backs, bad part of it is Lovie is making a bad decision here.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by GOLF_FREAK on Aug 5^th, 2006, 10:27am

Benson garbage pat dux,

Preseason workout just started and this is his second injury. First his knee is swollen and now his shoulder is hurt. What is next his groin?

Come on punk, get healthy.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Aug 5^th, 2006, 1:30pm

[smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] Be careful Golf Freak, I posted similar setiments on this thread and got my head bit off.

If healthy, Benson should be a handful, but why settle for a handful, when you can have two handfuls? ?.?.? ?

The Priest Holmes/Larry Johnson combination was one of the most awesome duos I've ever seen. Then when Priest went down, you had a low mileage Johnson with his engine and tires warmed up and ready to go.

Teams need to start thinking about what it takes to win Super Bowls...and that my friends is how you make the $$$green$$$.

It won't be long before we see a post telling me I'm nuts talking about the bears and Super Bowls in the same sentence, but folks they are in a very weak division and should make the playoffs with the defense alone...with a 24 point a game offense...they won't lose many!

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by GOLF_FREAK on Aug 5^th, 2006, 3:27pm

Superbowls will only happen if Griese gets into action. I have never been happy with Grossman, plus in the pro's he's only been healty when, actually I don't know when.

D is there, rb's are there. We need the te's to step up 15 notches and the wr's to be without butterfingers for Grossman or Griese, but I prefer the one with more experience.

Freak Out

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 5^th, 2006, 7:09pm

Well, anyway,... according to LOCAL and OFFICIAL sources available on "the Gridiron Newsstand", Benson has been OK-ed, not KO-ed... [smiley=dodged.gif]

(Official word...)
"X-rays on Benson's injured shoulder negative (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=16418)"

(More tests to come...)
"Bears: Benson X-rays negative (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-060805benson-update-story,1,1861726.story?coll=cs-bears-headlines)"

(Echoes cw[smiley=pig.gif]'s sentiments about Jones to a T, to a point, in fact, that makes you think the author might be reading cwham's posts... ;))
"Shoulder shelves Benson (http://www.suntimes.com/output/bears/cst-spt-bear05.html)"

This is when "negative" news is "positive" (at least for us Benson owners [smiley=awwgee.gif] if not you Benson haters... ;))!!! [smiley=yes.gif]

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Aug 6^th, 2006, 11:39am

I don't hate Benson, just know for a fact that he is unproven. Potential is just that, "Something that might be, but currently is not." Why get rid of an "is" in lieu of a "might be"? Makes very little sense to me and any one who has watched professional football for as much as one season knows that no matter how good you are...you are just one play away from your career being over. If you are having trouble getting your backs through training camp, you better have plenty of insurance for the regular season.

God I must be getting OLD!!! I like Griese at the QB position. I think Grossman is electryfing for the short bursts that he has played, but when you get past the emotion and look at his numbers...not very good. :P

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Tony_O on Aug 6^th, 2006, 12:47pm

on 08/06/06 at 11:39:16, cwhams wrote:

Why get rid of an "is" in lieu of a "might be"?

Sometimes it has more to do with [smiley=money.gif] than it does past performance.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Walker Boh on Aug 8^th, 2006, 12:22am

Check out my Bears Player Rankings!

http://www.ffpro.com/teamreports/bears/bears-footballinfoframes.htm

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Tony_O on Aug 8^th, 2006, 12:30am

good job................. [smiley=rifle.gif]

I would love to snag the Bears D, but I wouldn't touch any of the offensive players unless it was a keeper league and then that would only include Benson and Bradley.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 8^th, 2006, 9:04pm

Lelie to Bears still a possibility... From "The REAL Feed":

Bears have renewed interest in Broncos WR Lelie (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2543708&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (08.08.2006 20:34)
With their wide receiver corps depleted by training camp injuries, the Bears might be reconsidering the possibility of acquiring the Broncos' Ashley Lelie.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 9^th, 2006, 3:45am

Benson down but not out... for long, at least... according to "The REAL Feed":

Bears' Benson says shoulder should only sideline him 2-3 weeks (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/08/2020.ap.fbn.bears.benson.0380/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (09.08.2006 00:08)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by GOLF_FREAK on Aug 12^th, 2006, 11:47am

Stud, aka Brian Griese. I told you he would be good, keep it up Griese. Lovie will have no choice but let you take us to the promise land of 20 years ago.

Go Bears!!!!

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 15^th, 2006, 4:51am

Bears D takes a HUGE hit... From "The REAL Feed":

Bears safety Brown sidelined indefinitely with Achilles 'twinge (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/14/2020.ap.fbn.bears.camp.0366/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (15.08.2006 00:15)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 17^th, 2006, 2:50pm

Jones back practicing... according to "The REAL Feed":

Bears RB Jones practices, status still uncertain (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2551966&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (17.08.2006 07:36)
The Bears had a familiar figure on the practice field for their final workout before breaking training camp: Thomas Jones.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by GOLF_FREAK on Aug 19^th, 2006, 10:24am

The monsters of midway are back, preseason it is, but holding down the Chargers the way they did is a good start.

By the way did you see Griese with another td?

Come on Lovie, say he is the starter already.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 22^nd, 2006, 4:51am

Benson and Jones back in pads and battling it out... uncomfortably... according to "The REAL Feed":

Bears' top two running backs return to practice (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/21/2020.ap.fbn.bears.running.backs.0382/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (22.08.2006 03:30)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Aug 23^rd, 2006, 7:41pm

Appears Benson left the sidelines early and skipped a mandatory post-game meeting. Lovie, finally, falling out of Love with Benson issues some good ole fashion woodshed punishment to the upstart.

Appears he is not winning friends and influencing people in terms of teammates. The fella is starting to slide...Thomas is starting to rise. Could all change, but that's just the way it is today. :o

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 23^rd, 2006, 7:48pm

Yea, cw, I saw this report rollin' off "The REAL Feed" yesterday or the day before or whatever... You may be local and have some insight I don't have, but from what I read,... I (obviously) chose not even to post it. On the other hand, I knew a post to the "Bears Offseason Report" thread here by you was going to be poo-poo Benson, rah-rah Jones somehow. ... For me, you gotta understand,... it's funny watching people stubbornly get a hold of something and its becoming their bailiwick. I mean I don't think you have posts on any other thread than the Bears thread here,... oh, and the Cardinals thread,... gotta protect yaw boy Rackers. Don't get me wrong, man! It's all good... I'm just pointing out how things "are" from my perspective. [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] It's funny. I sometimes wonder if you guys see it yourselves, or if you could, what you'd think of yourselves. [smiley=joker.gif]

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 24^th, 2006, 5:31am

Jones gets starting nod this week... according to "The REAL Feed":

Bears' RB Jones gets start (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/23/2020.ap.fbn.bears.jones.0235/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (23.08.2006 19:18)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by Philly on Aug 24^th, 2006, 9:52am

on 08/24/06 at 05:31:23, StegRock wrote:

Jones gets starting knod this week...

What exactly is a "knod"??? ;)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 24^th, 2006, 10:10am

A... [smiley=yes.gif] nod.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Aug 25^th, 2006, 8:16am

I play the stock market, I lose some and I win some. But I always play what I know. It takes a real fool to talk about things they don't know. Just like the stock market it is impossible to keep up with every player on every team, so you specialize...that's why you have fans and that's why you have reporters on different teams on this site.

Mr. Steg, you appear to have a problem with me posting about things I believe I know a little something about. Yes, I was a life long Cardinal fan prior to them moving to Arizona and yes I've also followed the Bear my whole life. And yes I've followed football since I was in first grade. Juding from your picture I'd say that means I've been doing this for twenty years longer than you have.

Unless you got a problem with me posting information that may actually be helpful to some folks regarding things I may know something about, I guess I'll continue to do so. After all, I thought that was what this site was about...yes even some controversy and differences of opinion. That's what makes it interesting...if everybody agreed on everything, I'd go elsewhere! :-*

By the way the comments on "yah boy Benson" as opposed to my guy Jones...seems like I was correct...Benson did get in the dog house and did get pulled from the starting gig...perhaps reporting the fact that he got took to the woodshed by Lovie, a prelude to the bench...was good information to someone who was trying to choose which back to draft first on this team? ;)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 25^th, 2006, 10:41am

I personally do not think Benson is going to do squat this year. Here is someone that according to all the reports I have read has not stepped up to take advantage of situations OR can not step up due to injuries.

And most importantly, his attitude sucks. The examples of his bad attitude, leaving the sides early, and skipping meetings should NOT come to a surprise to anyone. My impression of Benson is of someone who thinks it is his right to be playing in the NFL and he is better than everyone else. Oh how wrong he is...... I think he is going to be in that doghouse ALL year long.

If the Bears truly thought Benson could carry the load, you know they would of traded Jones away. But alas, that does not appear to be the case.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Aug 25^th, 2006, 6:13pm

8-) Though I have been painted as a Benson "hater" I am not. He has the "potential" to be a very good if not great running back.

Truth is I believe he will eventually get out of the dog house and get to run the ball. That said, a running game by committee will probably bode well for the Bears and not so good for Benson or Jones fantasy owners.

In terms of Benson's disrespect for vets, they seem to be knocking the stuffings out of him in practice to gain his respect.

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 25^th, 2006, 11:24pm

Okay,... cw... I had to see a "real" biased take to put yours (back) into context. That said, (in my years of running this forum I know that) there really is a fine line between "focused posting" and "bailiwick harping",... and, given that, a more balanced position would be indicative of, though admittedly not necessarily so, the former rather than the latter. You have come out and said, as in your post above, that you are not a Benson hater (the fact of the matter is that, from a strictly "physical" point of view, Benson was MADE to be a tailback by trade; he's just got the prototypical tailback build and set of "physical" tools). "That" said, I'd/'ll be interested in what you have to say about Jones's VERY lackluster performance tonight... ;)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 26^th, 2006, 7:06pm

Another defenseman injured... according to "The REAL Feed":

Bears DE Brown sprains shoulder (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/wires/08/25/2020.ap.fbn.bears.brown.injured.1st.ld.writethru.0078/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (26.08.2006 07:34)

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Aug 26^th, 2006, 10:48pm

on 08/25/06 at 23:24:57, StegRock wrote:

"That" said, I'd/'ll be interested in what you have to say about Jones's VERY lackluster performance tonight... ;)

As I've stated in other threads, I think preseason is important, mostly for looking at rookies and guys comming back from major injuries from last season. I'll say here that it is also important for guys like Jones who have had minor injuries (hamstrings) and not practiced much to knock a little rust off.

Larry Johnson didn't look to good in his last preseason game, but I'm not throwing him to the curb just yet. "Proven" veterans get several chances...come game day...you keep producing in a lack luster fasion...to the curb you go.
[smiley=dejected.gif]

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by StegRock on Aug 27^th, 2006, 1:31am

Spun positively (as anticipated)... BUT, mind you, I'm not saying that's the wrong move, cw... In fact, I'm saying it's the right move... "in general". "That" is my point. [smiley=zenmaster.gif] BUT, I see whence you are coming. [smiley=letsmakeup.gif]

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by cwhams on Aug 27^th, 2006, 7:07pm

While we are on the subject, Has Cedric Benson had so much as one preseason or in season good, let alone great game in his career?

Look, I'm a Bears fan first, if Benson comes out and runs up 2,000+ yards, I'll be one happy fan and probably will forget that Thomas Jones ever even played for the Bears.

It's not about emotion, it's about winning and you want the guy on the field that "you" think gives the team the best chance of winning. I clearly like proven players and others like unproven rookies with great potential. Others don't even like guys who have just come off great seasons, saying, "I don't think they can do that again. I'm going with this other guy who I "think" will do great."

Who knows from player to player or year to year who gets it right. I usually take a more conservative track and usually do pretty well. The season is 16 games long and anything can happen. I've seen what I thought were completely Bonehead moves pay big divendends...just can't wait for the season to start!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good luck to all!

Title: Re: Bears Offseason Report
Post by DirkDiggler on Aug 27^th, 2006, 8:14pm

Little blurb from the Houston Chronicle regarding Benson and the RB controvery:

I like the title:

Cedric's No Entertainer

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/4143681.html