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(Message started by: Philly on Sep 13^th, 2006, 12:08pm)

Title: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Sep 13^th, 2006, 12:08pm

Hey guys... I need some opinions for my money league. Here's the set-up:

12 teams, 3 divisions, H2H, division winners +1 wild card (by record, then total points) make playoffs.

Start: QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1K, 1 DST
Standard performance scoring: 1/10 rush/rec yards, 1/25 pass yards, 6 pts for all TDs, -2 FL/Int...

My team:
QB: Carson Palmer, Drew Bledsoe, Brad Johnson
RB: Rudi Johnson, Frank Gore, Reuben Droughns
WR: Lav Coles, Lee Evans, Matt Jones, Troy Williamson, Antonio Bryant
TE: Dallas Clark
K: John Kasay
DST: Carolina Panthers, Seattle Seahawks

Despite starting Droughns over Gore in week one (and getting nothing substantial from Evans or Jones or Panthers D), I managed to eke out a win.

This week, I need some help with choosing my starting 3 WRs because of some matchup issues.

Coles v. NE
Evans @ MIA
Jones v. PIT
Bryant v. STL
Williamson v. CAR

Who are my top three this week? Thanks in advance!

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Oakland4life on Sep 13^th, 2006, 2:08pm

I would go with Evans, Jones and Bryant.

Evans has a good matchup against the Dolphins. Hey if Batch can almost throw for 300 yds, than even J.P. Losman will have a chance against them.

The Jags will have to find a way to pass the ball against PIT because as they proved last year, and last week, no one will be running the ball on Pittsburgh.

Bryant is the only option 10 yds past the line of scrimmage for the niners. And as they proved last week. When the Niners are down, they will air it out to Bryant.

Hope this helps,

O4L

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by captainpurple on Sep 13^th, 2006, 3:13pm

Coles is @NE, not DAL. As such, I think I'd start him. The NE D is not what it was, and Losman put up some offense on them last week. I'd start him.

I agree with O4L on Bryant.

I totally disagree on Jones. Avoid starting anything against PIT right now. If they get up and force JAX into a passing situation (likely), they'll be blitzing 80% of the time and pressuring Lefty bigtime.

I'd probably go with Williamson as the last starter. I don't like Evans @ MIA as much as O4L. Williamson had a very nice Monday night....at least he would have, were it not for 3 drops. You also get the possibility of a KR with TWill.

Good luck!

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Sep 14^th, 2006, 11:26am

Thanks for correcting the Coles issue. I know he's on the Jets, but when I was typing it up, my mind was telling me he was still a Redskin. :-X

Anyway... I appreciate the help.

I'm leaning towards Coles and Bryant as two starters and will continue to debate the idea of Williamson or Evans as my third guy.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by StegRock on Sep 14^th, 2006, 5:24pm

Hey, Jeffy... :) I would go with Coles and Bryant for sure. After that, it's a bit of a coin flip... I have a hunch about,... get this,... Matt Jones (who you StegsList.com (http://www.stegslist.com)-ies know I'm not all too high on) this week. Pittsburgh's D is the REAL DEAL. I had them ranked #1 (over "there") all preseason. I love 'em, and I don't love Matt Jones. That said, visions of HUMUNGOUS Jimmy Smith efforts against Pittsburgh are dancing in my head. It just seems like the Steelers secondary, which can tend to "overplay"/be over-agrressive, can get burnt by a fast guy, and Jones, from what I gather is the fastest of the three, Wilford and Williams being the other two. While I like Wilford more qua receiver (in the long run), it just seems like Jones has the right set of tools to poise him for a big day against Pittsburgh. It's a risk, though... Make no mistakes! But, Evans's and Williamson's matchups are rough (too), but without the (what I perceive to be) upswing (both Carolina and Miami, two teams who many have slated to make the Super Bowl, are pissed and are going to be looking to shut down their, respectively, intra-conference and intra-DIVISION, opponents). Good luck whatever you decide, man! [smiley=shamrock.gif]

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by DirkDiggler on Sep 14^th, 2006, 8:21pm

I would go with Coles, Evans, and Bryant. I have a feeling that Williamson will eventually emerge in that Vikings offense, but at this time I think he would be risky. Evans did not do squat last week, but I think he will not have a repeat......

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by prm on Sep 14^th, 2006, 8:45pm

[smiley=yes.gif]...i'm diggin the coles, bryant, & evans scene myself [smiley=hippy.gif]...wr is always flavor o' the week - but the week seems to be lining up that way....good luck mate,
prm...

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Sep 15^th, 2006, 9:54pm

I've been reading a little about Evans's 2005 history against the Fins and I like what I've been reading... Last December, when the Fins were playing well and Buffalo was bad, Evans posted 5-117-3! against them... seems like the Fins are still good, the Bills are still bad... I'll take a shot with Evans as my #3 guy.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Chumpzilla on Sep 16^th, 2006, 9:47am

I would definitely start Bryant and Evans. I would avoid Williamson becuase I'm not sold on his consistency. I think I would select Coles as my #3 based purely on the defensive match-up.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Oct 4^th, 2006, 10:32am

OK... another WR question for you.

I currently have:
Laveranues Coles, Lee Evans, Antonio Bryant, Matt Jones, and Troy Williamson. (Start 3 each week)

Currently on waivers:
Joey Galloway, Michael Clayton, Mike Furrey, Chad Jackson, Eric Moulds, Josh Reed, Peerless Price, Wes Welker, and Greg Lewis.

I'm definitely keeping Coles and Bryant, and Evans seems to be coming on of late. Williamson has played some tough secondaries recently, but gets a bit of a break in the future. Matt Jones is part of a fairly even WRBC in Jax.

Do you see any moves that should be made? I'm contemplating dropping Jones for either Galloway (not sure about his QB sitch) or Furrey (has been getting a LOT of looks, but he's not proven). I could also drop Michael Robinson as a RB and add another WR too.

Thoughts? I appreciate it. ;D

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by captainpurple on Oct 4^th, 2006, 12:43pm

hmmmm, not sure I see a time when you'd start Jones over your other 4 WRs. Detroit is airing it out big and (as you said), Furrey is getting a lot of looks with BMW in the doghouse.

I'd take a chance on Furrey. Moulds isn't really a step up from Jones; the TB QB sitch means avoid all TB WRs; no other WW candidates will be consistent enough to warrant a roster spot, IMO.

So really, it's Furrey or nothing (no move). Keep Jones? Is Furrey an early aberration? That's the call isn't it....I think Leftwich has proven he'll never be a truly elite QB, and Furrey has a hot streak going. I'd give him a shot.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Oakland4life on Oct 4^th, 2006, 2:24pm

I would start Coles, Bryant and Williamson this week. In your lineup, Coles and Bryant are pretty much your standard start each week. I personally think that Williamson is going to come out of Detroit big this Sunday. I actually picked up Williamson in my other league just for the fact the I can "feel" it. Especially if they move the game to Monday night. (Go Twins!!)

As far as your possible WW acquisitions, Im with cptpurple, Furrey is pretty much your best bet if you really want to acquire another WR. But I would say that Jones is on the same level as Furrey is as far as looks and capability.

Good Luck

O4L

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Takamine305 on Oct 4^th, 2006, 3:21pm

How about D. Gabriel?!?!? He seems to be available in a large percentage of leagues and looks to be the primary target in New England. If he were available i would have to suggest him as your pickup over all of those guys.

good luck

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Oct 5^th, 2006, 7:49am

on 10/04/06 at 15:21:34, Takamine305 wrote:

Nope... we've got some fairly experienced owners in my league. He was gone before last weekend's games -- AND his owner started him to boot!

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by StegRock on Oct 5^th, 2006, 5:20pm

No, I wouldn't pick any of those scabs up, and week in and week out, until "further notice", so to speak, I would go with Coles, Evans and then Bryant or Williams based on matchup and such. My take is not to overthink this one. Good luck!

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Oct 5^th, 2006, 10:44pm

Well, the one guy I was leaning towards (Furrey) was snagged by another owner, so I think I will stand pat for now.

I'm definitely going with Coles and Bryant this weekend, and maybe leaning towards Williamson instead of Evans since Evans is facing Chicago...

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by prm on Oct 6^th, 2006, 1:44pm

[smiley=yes.gif] [smiley=yes.gif]...i COMPLETELY AGREE w/ the big boss man [smiley=bow.gif]...
the bottom of the barrel is the bottom of the barrel...sit tight & see what shakes out...still early...
good luck,[smiley=shamrock.gif]
prm...

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by captainpurple on Oct 6^th, 2006, 2:39pm

on 10/06/06 at 13:44:09, prm wrote:

i don't know if you can consider Furrey bottom of the barrel though. Travis Taylor...now THERE'S bottom of the barrel! ;D

How many owners ran out to get Colston after week 2, when he was avg. 4 for 54 and 1 TD? Not too many believers, but if you took the "on a hot streak" approach, you were handsomely rewarded.

Such is the case with Furrey, IMO. He's familiar with Martz system, and is getting a ton of looks. In two weeks, we could be saying [smiley=doh.gif] "Why did/didn't I grab him!"

WRs are notorious for being flaky in FF. There's always a handful of guys that step up out of nowhere and have terrific seasons. Galloway and McCardell in the last couple years alone.

I think he's worth a roster spot over a guy like Jones right now.

[smiley=twocents.gif]

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Oct 11^th, 2006, 10:11am

Week 6 Dilemma

Alright... got a bye-week issue to deal with. My only TE (Dallas Clark) is off this week. I need to head to the WW for a one-week replacement and there's not too much to get excited about.

Here are the guys who are already on a roster:
K Winslow, T Heap, LJ Smith, A Gates, H Miller, D Clark, D Clark2, Gonzo, Ben Watson, Randy McMichael, Jeremy Shockey, Eric Johnson, Alge Crumpler, Alex Smith, Chris Cooley, Jason Witten, Bubba Franks

Does anyone have a gut feeling for a TE who could get a few catches or a TD grab? Any chance Jeremy Shockey sits out this week and Visanthe Shiancoe gets a few looks? Anyone else worth mentioning?

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Callie on Oct 11^th, 2006, 11:28am

Jerramy Stevens is expected back Week 6! I'd watch things to be sure, but if he's playing he's a red zone target.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Oct 11^th, 2006, 12:59pm

Callie... Thanks! [smiley=bow.gif] I had forgotten all about Stevens and I was concentrating primarily towards the top of the TE waiver wire (guys who have actually garnered some fantasy points this year). Obviously he wasn't listed there.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by StegRock on Oct 11^th, 2006, 3:46pm

Though I do think Stevens is a sneaky-good pick-up in a way, there are a LOT of mouths to feed there these days. It could be a good week to go with my boy Stephen Alexander... :-/ or your old boy Ben Troupe. ;) Both options are ultimately... :P Maybe, rolling your dice on Stevens is your best bet, but that's more a function of the slim pickings available to you this week than his being a good pick-up this week. Good luck! [smiley=shammy.gif]

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Callie on Oct 11^th, 2006, 3:59pm

The problem with Steven Alexander is that DEN is playing OAK in Week 6. Teams do best when they run on Oakland, and Denver loves to run the ball. The Raiders give up a lot fewer passing yards than most people think, and they are very soft against the run.

Troupe hasn't been very visible so far this season. I don't expect more in Week 6.

Seattle plays the Rams, and that should be a shoot out. Lots there for all the hands, and Stevens poised in the red zone like the old days.

I still recommend Jerramy, if he's there and plays (which he should).

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by THFC on Oct 11^th, 2006, 4:24pm

A couple of TEs to consider:

K. Mangum - had a nice game against Cleveland
D. Wilcox - may need to be involved against Carolina
D. Campbell - caught a TD last week
E. Conwell - had 2 nice weeks in a row

None of these can be relied on, but either you go for someone who will (more than likely) give you a couple of points, or someone who might have a chance at a TD.

Right now I'd gamble on Conwell out of this group.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by StegRock on Oct 12^th, 2006, 5:45am

[offtopic]By the way, Call, I am following your lead... Just picked up Stevens off the waiver wire in JYJ's league... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif][/offtopic]

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Oct 12^th, 2006, 12:09pm

After some deliberation...

I thought long and hard about Conwell, but in the end I didn't go with him somewhat because he faces my Eagles this week. Conflict of interest.

I picked up Jerramy Stevens. With Seattle missing a key component in their rushing attack, and a possible offensive shoot-out with the Rams on tap, Stevens could get some looks.

Thanks for the assistance everyone! ;D

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Callie on Oct 15^th, 2006, 12:45pm

I'm hearing now that Stevens is INACTIVE for today!

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Oct 16^th, 2006, 1:54pm

I don't think there were any FA tight ends that could have gotten me the points I needed for a win, so it didn't matter in the end.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Oct 19^th, 2006, 2:09pm

WEEK SEVEN

OK, this week we look at the defensive side of the ball. Team defense: I gain points for turnovers and TDs and lose points for points allowed. Fairly standard scoring - no surprises.

I have the following options:

CAROLINA vs. Cincinnati
SEATTLE vs. Minnesota

or I can go to the waiver wire for:

MINNESOTA vs. Seattle
NY GIANTS vs. Dallas

(I tried to get Arizona as they face the Raiders, but someone else had a higher waiver priority than me, so I missed out.)

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Oakland4life on Oct 19^th, 2006, 2:51pm

I would say go with Seattle. Even though Carolina has the better defense, I don't think Minnesota will score a lot of points. Whereas you might be able to cancel a few points allowed with performance points with Carolina, I see that game at least in the over 40 column.

I don't think you need to go to the wiaver wire this week. The Giants-Cowboys game is on Monday night. That usually brings out the best in star players. And both of those teams are star studded. I wouldn't take a chance on the Giants defense.

As for picking up Minnesota, I guess it depends on who you think is going to win the game, Seattle or Minnesota. I personally think it's going to be Seattle by at least 2 TD's. And all the scoring will be done in the air.

Good luck

O4L

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by captainpurple on Oct 19^th, 2006, 5:15pm

on 10/19/06 at 14:51:21, Oakland4life wrote:

I agree with most of this. I would hang with Seattle's defense too. Minnesota hasn't showed any ability to score more then 19 pts a game, unless the D does it for them.

I don't think it'll be a 2 TD game tho! :o This D is playing top 7 right now, and scoring against them should be a bit tougher. I'm anticipating a 21-17, 24-17 game...something like that.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by THFC on Oct 20^th, 2006, 9:33am

I would go with Carolina, and this is why:

Seattle's D hasn't been good this year......Bulger lit them up for 360 plus 3 TDs, and while Brad Johnson isn't Bulger, he is a veteran who knows when and where to make his throws, and will exploit that weak D. Chester Taylor should do enough to keep the D honest, and I can see Min having it's best offensive game yet.

On the other hand, Cincy's running game is pretty bad right now, making them rely on the pass, which is just about ok so far. Carolina has some great backs to match up to Cincy's WRs, and they can get to the not very mobile Palmer. I think Carolina gets plenty of turnovers this week, and may even score a defensive td.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by StegRock on Oct 20^th, 2006, 10:19pm

on 10/19/06 at 14:09:13, Philly wrote:

(I tried to get Arizona as they face the Raiders, but someone else had a higher waiver priority than me, so I missed out.)

Boy, I don't like any of the options you have. My take would just be tantamount to tossing coins and yarrow stalks. But, what about this? Is Oakland available? Believe it or not, I kind of like them more than the options you've laid out,... not by a lot, mind you, but slightly. Defense is not the problem in Oakland.

Title: Re: Who Does Philly Start?
Post by Philly on Oct 23^rd, 2006, 1:39pm

Thanks for all your help everyone... It was a tough decision, but I went ahead and picked up the Vikings and started them (despite the fact that no one recommended them). :-X

Carolina had some injuries and I keep thinking the Cincinnati offense is going to break out of its funk. They scored 12 points.

Seattle scared me with the fact that their running game is grounded (never good for a defense) and they've been susceptible to some weak outings. They scored 4 points.

Minnesota has been fairly good on defense and I can see them as a team that is more than a one-week bye-week pickup. They've got a fairly favorable schedule come playoff time, so I gave them a go. They scored 26 points.

Oakland, a nice choice this week with 24 FF points scored, was another winner, but I don't see them having much long-term value.