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(Message started by: StegRock on Jun 13th, 2008, 11:35pm)
Title: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 13th, 2008, 11:35pm
From "The REAL Feed (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/newsstand.htm)"... [smiley=no.gif]

A former... [smiley=bear.gif]

Benson unclaimed on waivers, now a free agent (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3441253&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (13.06.2008 10:10)
Any team in the NFL could have claimed running back Cedric Benson off waivers for the cost of the remainder of his contract. No one did, making him an unrestricted free agent.

And, a former... [smiley=pussycat.gif]

Ex-Bengals receiver Henry suspended by the NFL (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/sports/pro/football&sa=NFL&eid=3442351)
KABC: Sports (13.06.2008 18:25)
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 15th, 2008, 1:12am
Focusing on key "homeless" tailbacks...  Where do you guys think the following list of guys will end up... if anywhere?

Shaun Alexander
Travis Henry
Cedric Benson
Ron Dayne
And, let's include the virtually inevitable soon-to-be "homeless" LaMont Jordan

... [smiley=thinking.gif]
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by BarnabyWilde on Jun 15th, 2008, 11:46am
Either Henry, Alexander or Jordan has to end up in Chicago. I don't see them going with a rookie there all season.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 15th, 2008, 11:54am
My guesses:

Travis Henry - Houston
Lamont Jordan - Chicago
Shaun Alexander - Jets
Benson - Out of the league UNTIL he gets his legal situation fixed.  It's not like he is as good as Leonard Little (who can kill a person  while driving drunk in 1998 and then be pulled over in  in 2004 for DUI and STILL be in the league)
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 15th, 2008, 4:33pm
I'm surprised not to see any of the following teams on your list, Double-D:  Denver, Buffalo, Arizona, Tampa
Bay, Cincinnati, Detroit, Kansas City, Seattle (maybe), Philadelphia (maybe), Dallas (maybe), Cleveland (maybe), Tennessee (maybe), and St. Louis (maybe).  I surely see them as being, at least, in the market, at least, sometime here this offseason or early in the season. [smiley=shrug.gif] Maybe I am way off...  But, I actually see quite a wide-open market this year compared to last, especially if some guys don't pan out as expected and/or some of these injury rumors floating about turn out to be true.  That said, the Jets and Houston are two teams I wouldn't even have on my list.  Although, Alexander to the Jets does somehow seem to sound right.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 15th, 2008, 9:08pm

on 06/15/08 at 16:33:21, StegRock wrote:
I'm surprised not to see any of the following teams on your list, Double-D:  Denver, Buffalo, Arizona, Tampa
Bay, Cincinnati, Detroit, Kansas City, Seattle (maybe), Philadelphia (maybe), Dallas (maybe), Cleveland (maybe), Tennessee (maybe), and St. Louis (maybe).  I surely see them as being, at least, in the market, at least, sometime here this offseason or early in the season. [smiley=shrug.gif] Maybe I am way off...  But, I actually see quite a wide-open market this year compared to last, especially if some guys don't pan out as expected and/or some of these injury rumors floating about turn out to be true.  That said, the Jets and Houston are two teams I wouldn't even have on my list.  Although, Alexander to the Jets does somehow seem to sound right.


Many of those teams I thought about, but I had to choose one.  Detroit and Chicago and Buffalo are three teams I considered and would not be surprised if any of them landed there.  However, I believe Detroit is determined to go with Kevin Smith and the rest of their corp.

Buffalo- They probably wait out the Lynch situation which should clear up soon.  If he goes in the poke or gets suspened, look for the Bills to go after one of those guys.

Bears- This team is a debacle.   I guess they wait to see what they have in Forte.  They also have Peterson and Garrett Wolfe showed some flashes last year.  

The other player to keep an eye on is Kevin Jones.  He may emerge in Buffalo or Chicago.  
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 16th, 2008, 1:44am

on 06/15/08 at 21:08:47, DirkDiggler wrote:
The other player to keep an eye on is Kevin Jones.


Kevin Jones...  There's a guy I forgot on my list...  Yea, where does he go?

Again, anyone...???

Shaun Alexander
Travis Henry
Cedric Benson
Kevin Jones
Ron Dayne
LaMont Jordan

Where do they end up... if anywhere? [smiley=thinking.gif]
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by Philly on Jun 16th, 2008, 12:57pm

on 06/16/08 at 01:44:47, StegRock wrote:
Kevin Jones...  There's a guy I forgot on my list...  Yea, where does he go?

Again, anyone...???

Shaun Alexander
Travis Henry
Cedric Benson
Kevin Jones
Ron Dayne
LaMont Jordan

Where do they end up... if anywhere? [smiley=thinking.gif]


Shaun Alexander - Green Bay, Minnesota (if AP gets hurt), Cincy, New England.
Travis Henry - Baltimore, Buffalo, Cincy, Cleveland
Cedric Benson - Miami
Kevin Jones - Chicago, New Orleans, Houston, Miami, New England, San Diego
Ron Dayne - Canada?
LaMont Jordan - It would be inappropriate for me to comment on Jordan since he's still under contract, but... maybe Seattle (if Duckett doesn't work out) or San Diego?

I think that Kevin Jones is the most attractive of the FA RBs on the list. There will be some other cuts this summer that might throw a wrench in the works. For example, Tennessee has LenDale White and now Chris Johnson has evidently unseated last year's 2nd rounder in Chris Henry. They also have a big back in Quinton Ganther who could generate interest if he's released.

I think teams will have to be very desperate (or teams that can afford to take a risk on a risky player) to sign either Benson or Henry.

I don't think there will be any interest in Dayne at this point.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 21st, 2008, 8:17am
Jones impresses... according to this LOCAL source on "The REAL Feed":

Ex-Lion Kevin Jones impressive in comeback (with video) (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080621/BLOG21/306210010/1048/sports)
FREEP: Sports (21.06.2008 04:34)
I'm not a doctor. I'm not an athletic trainer. I'm not an NFL executive, coach or scout. But I was impressed by former Lions running back Kevin Jones on Thursday, and if you were there, you probably would have been, too.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2008, 4:49pm
Latest on Benson sitch... [smiley=alcoholic.gif] from "The REAL Feed":

Ex-Bear Benson ordered to get alcohol car lock (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3457443&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (23.06.2008 13:46)
Cedric Benson has been ordered to install an ignition lock breathalyzer in his car.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by Callie on Jun 23rd, 2008, 8:12pm

on 06/23/08 at 16:49:10, StegRock wrote:
Latest on Benson sitch... [smiley=alcoholic.gif] from "The REAL Feed":

Ex-Bear Benson ordered to get alcohol car lock (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3457443&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (23.06.2008 13:46)
Cedric Benson has been ordered to install an ignition lock breathalyzer in his car.


What a big waste of god-given talent.  Hope he figures things out, but I doubt he will.  After all of the examples of guys like this who are out there, who can blame teams for deciding to pass on him.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2008, 4:36pm
Here is, I think, a valid "up-beat" analysis of these guys' situations... brought to you by way of "The REAL Feed (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/newsstand.htm)":

Kirwan: Glut of running backs (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d808fca84&template=with-video&confirm=true)
NFL.com (28.06.2008 15:10)
Free-agent running backs are experiencing a flooded market with camp just weeks away. Any team thinking about adding a runner to the roster is in the driver's seat this year.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2008, 6:04pm
Another back out of work... according to "The REAL Feed":

No trade: Steelers release backup RB Davenport (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3465125&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (28.06.2008 14:10)
After shopping Najeh Davenport in hopes of a trade, the Pittsburgh Steelers have the released the running back.

Given the glut, I don't know when or even if we will see Davenport back in an NFL uni.  It's somewhat of a shame.  This guy was never really given the chance to shine/he seemed to always get that untimely injury when he was about to get that chance.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by steelkings on Jun 28th, 2008, 9:59pm
I am hopeful that one day I will go into a Titty bar restroom and Najah Davenport will be the dude handing me a towel. I will have just taken a crap and handed the towel back to Naj.  He will then learn what the phrase means..." What goes around comes around"

Is it not lost on anyone that all the guys listed have somehow made themselves a menece in one way or anouther? All of them. Im not feeling real warm and fuzzy about any of them. I hope they all go nowhere!
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2008, 10:42pm

on 06/28/08 at 21:59:12, steelkings wrote:
Is it not lost on anyone that all the guys listed have somehow made themselves a menece in one way or anouther? All of them. Im not feeling real warm and fuzzy about any of them. I hope they all go nowhere!


It's lost on me...  I mean... I think you are right, excepting Alexander and Dayne.  Those guys have seemed to always be pretty good guys.  In any event, though, I think there are guys on teams that are or have been worse, which doesn't belie your observations but does throw a bone in the rationale of your position.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jun 29th, 2008, 12:03am
Kevin Jones BACK to Detroit...  That's, at least, in a sense, a quarter true according to this piece rolling off [smiley=rollin.gif] "The REAL Feed":

RB Kevin Jones workout witnessed by 4 NFL teams (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/wires/06/28/2020.ap.fbn.kevin.jones.workout.0425/index.html)
SI.com: NFL (28.06.2008 20:43)
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by steelkings on Jun 30th, 2008, 7:30am

on 06/28/08 at 22:42:49, StegRock wrote:
 In any event, though, I think there are guys on teams that are or have been worse, which doesn't belie your observations but does throw a bone in the rationale of your position.



Agreed but: The DB formally known as "Pacman" is in a position to help a team be better. So adding a cancerous asshole comes with a positive in that sense. (see Terrell Owens) The list of guys we are talking about here have dudes that either are at the end of thier careers or are a PR risk . I think Dayne falls into a different category. He's a guy that is still, after all these years,  a good guy still waiting to have that break out year. He is just not going to put fans in seats.

Everyone knows that Alexander 3 years ago was fantastic running behind a great O-line. After the Hawks lost a few linemen and suffered a couple of injuries Alexanders numbers really tailed off. Last year he looked slow and easy to tackle.
It may take a training camp injury to get him a job unless he will play for pennies.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by Philly on Jun 30th, 2008, 1:52pm

on 06/28/08 at 22:42:49, StegRock wrote:
It's lost on me...  I mean... I think you are right, excepting Alexander and Dayne.  Those guys have seemed to always be pretty good guys.  In any event, though, I think there are guys on teams that are or have been worse, which doesn't belie your observations but does throw a bone in the rationale of your position.


LaMont Jordan, while not yet part of this homeless group, certainly hasn't done anything to sully himself during his time in the league. I'm also having trouble remembering anything negative about Kevin Jones. Neither of these guys are over the hill and neither is a PR risk.

Shaun Alexander (a "good guy") is also a guy whose motivation to perform has been questioned by many. Once he signed the big contract, his performance fell. While some of the blame can certainly go to a shaky offensive line and an unsettled WR sitch, Alexander appears to be culpable as well.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by Ghostrider on Jul 10th, 2008, 1:48pm

on 06/30/08 at 13:52:23, Philly wrote:
LaMont Jordan, while not yet part of this homeless group, certainly hasn't done anything to sully himself during his time in the league. I'm also having trouble remembering anything negative about Kevin Jones. Neither of these guys are over the hill and neither is a PR risk.

Shaun Alexander (a "good guy") is also a guy whose motivation to perform has been questioned by many. Once he signed the big contract, his performance fell. While some of the blame can certainly go to a shaky offensive line and an unsettled WR sitch, Alexander appears to be culpable as well.


LAMONT JORDAN MEETS WITH LIONS
Posted Jul. 10 at 06:04 AM
Oakland Raiders RB LAMONT JORDAN recently visited the Detroit Lions.
The Raiders have been trying to move Jordan via trade the past
several months. Source: ESPN.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Jul 11th, 2008, 6:21pm
How about this nugget from a LOCAL source currently atop "The REAL Feed"???

Henry violated drug policy before Broncos cut him (http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/jul/11/henry-violated-drug-policy-broncos-cut-him/)
Rocky Mountain News: Broncos & NFL (11.07.2008 17:49)
Travis Henry's NFL career teeters on the brink after league sources confirmed he faces a year's suspension for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy in the weeks before the Broncos cut him.

Take Henry off the list of availables...  This guy's done...
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by Ghostrider on Jul 14th, 2008, 8:54am
Henry.  What another waste of pure talent.  It's too bad he didn't put as much effort into his game as he put into scoring his weed!
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by StegRock on Sep 25th, 2008, 9:54pm
A little redemption for Benson...  From "The REAL Feed":

Benson won't face charges from two Austin arrests (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3609632&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (25.09.2008 20:16)
Former Chicago Bears running back Cedric Benson will not face charges over his two alcohol-related arrests in the Austin area.

Not to diminish the criminality and wrongness of driving under the influence, but I kind of thought all along that this stuff against Benson this summer was ticky-tacky, at least relatively speaking.  I think he'll be back in uniform somewhere now in short order.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by DirkDiggler on Oct 1st, 2008, 3:27pm
WOW, when you fall, you fall hard:

Travis Henry charged with trafficking cocaine.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/oct/01/ex-bronco-henry-arrested-after-alleged-cocaine-dea/
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by cwhams on Oct 1st, 2008, 6:33pm

on 09/25/08 at 21:54:39, StegRock wrote:
A little redemption for Benson...  From "The REAL Feed":

Benson won't face charges from two Austin arrests (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3609632&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (25.09.2008 20:16)
Former Chicago Bears running back Cedric Benson will not face charges over his two alcohol-related arrests in the Austin area.

Not to diminish the criminality and wrongness of driving under the influence, but I kind of thought all along that this stuff against Benson this summer was ticky-tacky, at least relatively speaking.  I think he'll be back in uniform somewhere now in short order.


I agee the (especially) 2nd arrest was pretty bogus.  Noticed in the pictures that there were six black males and six white females on the boat, exclusive of Bensons' mother.  Should never have been arrested in the first place.

Agree he should catch on some place, disagree that he is a quality option.
Title: Re: NFL's homeless...
Post by DirkDiggler on Oct 1st, 2008, 7:13pm

on 09/25/08 at 21:54:39, StegRock wrote:
A little redemption for Benson...  From "The REAL Feed":

Benson won't face charges from two Austin arrests (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3609632&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
ESPN: NFL (25.09.2008 20:16)
Former Chicago Bears running back Cedric Benson will not face charges over his two alcohol-related arrests in the Austin area.

Not to diminish the criminality and wrongness of driving under the influence, but I kind of thought all along that this stuff against Benson this summer was ticky-tacky, at least relatively speaking.  I think he'll be back in uniform somewhere now in short order.


Is there any surprise the BENGALS are the ones who signed Benson?  The Bengals are a complete and total debacle when it comes to signing guys with 'questionable' character.


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