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(Message started by: Chumpzilla on Oct 2^nd, 2003, 9:31pm)

Title: Commish Duties/Ethics - "You Make The Call!"
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 2^nd, 2003, 9:31pm

It is evident that there are a lot of FF enthusiasts that participate on this site with many years of experience. I would really value some opinions on the following issues: [smiley=stars.gif] [smiley=gettinhammered.gif]

Issue #1:

An owner (Owner A for this example) has a two-week vacation planned and it starts the prior to week #3. The owner sets his line-up, on-line, for week #3 and takes off. After the first set of games on the Sunday of week #4 the Commissioner notices that Owner A’s starting Kicker and Defense are on a bye. He also notices the Culpepper is active on his roster, when it had been announced earlier in the day that he wouldn’t play. In the “best interest of the league,” the Commissioner swaps the Kicker and Defense, leaving Culpepper active. The Commissioner cites that a team isn’t allowed to start a bye (not contained in the league rules). Was the Commissioner correct in his actions? "You Make The Call!" [smiley=shrug.gif]

Issue #2:

Team A has the best record going into the last week of the season and will be the #1 play-off seed whether he wins or loses. Team B has been peaking at the end of the season and is perhaps the best team in the league at this time. Team B needs several things to happen to make the play-offs, however, if Team A loses, Team B is out. The owner of Team A doesn’t feel he matches up well with Team B, and in the interest of his pursuit of a Super Bowl Championship, doesn’t field his best team in an attempt to lose. The Commissioner wants to intervene (no provision in the league rules). Should he? "You Make The Call!"

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Title: Re: Commish Duties/Ethics - "You Make The Call!"
Post by BarnabyWilde on Oct 2^nd, 2003, 11:01pm

Issue 1: As a commissioner, I NEVER edit another teams lineup. If someone starts a player on a bye, that is on them. Now, if a player is injured and they don't know, I have in the past called another owner and told them to check the injury report again.

Issue 2: This is a sticky situation. Last year, after a 2-8 start, was tempted to throw a game, but find it unethical. I'd want to beat the guy in the playoffs then run from him. As a commsih, I would not allow it.

Here is the tanking games thread from last year, that I put on the table:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=56;action=display;num=1037007440

Title: Re: Commish Duties/Ethics - "You Make The Call!"
Post by Walker Boh on Oct 2^nd, 2003, 11:13pm

Issue #1
I don't like what the commissioner did, but I have a hard time with the fact that Owner A didn't ask someone to help him out while he was gone. Do you know for a fact that he didn't ask the commissioner to do this for him? If he didn't, then the commissioner should have left his team as it was. Part of being a good fantasy player is being responsible for your team and it appears that Owner A wasn't. He should have asked for help and if he didn't, he deserved to lose.

Issue #2
This one is easy... the commissioner needs to back off. If Team A feels it's in his best interest to lose the game, then he's stupid if he tries to win. This sort of strategy happens all the time in sports, especially towards the end of the season. For example, coaches will pull their star players early in the game to avoid injury and keep them fresh for the playoffs, while at the same time giving the bench warmers a chance to get some play. Or a team may "try" to lose to improve its drafting position for the upcoming season. I know it's not the same in fantasy sports, but my point is that every owner has to do what they feel is best for their team and if it's losing, then so be it.

Title: Re: Commish Duties/Ethics - "You Make The Call!"
Post by Chumpzilla on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 5:38am

Thanks guys! Great feedback! Barnaby Wilde, thanks for the link!

Walker_Boh, for clarification on issue #1, I am 100% sure the owner was negligent and did not ask for help. The Commissioner readily admitted that he was not asked to make the change but thought it was the right thing to do.

Thanks again guys!

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Title: Re: Commish Duties/Ethics - "You Make The Call!"
Post by Noey21 on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 8:50am

Maybe it's because I am compassionate or maybe it's because their is more to life than FF.

But instance one I don't have to much problem with because I know when i went back east for two weeks there is alot of planning and running around going on. Not to mention probably working alot of OT to get someone to do your work. Of course it depends on is this more of a fun league or strictly money and no one is really friends. If your entry fee is like 30 bucks or so then waht the hell it is for fun. If you are playing for big bucks then screw the chump. Also, it depends has this person been involved are they strict on rules on everyone else? So I think it should be up to the league.
Especially if they set their lineups and some one got hurt when they were gone. Byes I kind of think tough luck you know they are coming up.

2. I think no one should ever try to lose. I have quit leagues before where so and so loses so their friend has a better chance of making the playoffs and so forth.

However, in the best interst of FF I think commish should have some room for changes. I.E. if team Z is 2-9 and stops turning in his lineup and has people not playing due to injury. With calls to other team owners they should put a healthy player in. It isn't fair to team a that beat team z fairly that team c gets to play team z's squad minus 5 players.

And if the person has issues turning in lineups then don't ask that owner back next year.

I have run 1 league for the last 5 years and we have asked 2 teams to leave for this reason. I want a fair playing field but I am not commish to baby sit teams.

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Title: Re: Commish Duties/Ethics - "You Make The Call!"
Post by Philly on Oct 3^rd, 2003, 10:15am

1. If an owner cannot address his/her lineup for any reason, then that owner needs to find someone to babysit the roster for him/her, or suffer the embarrassment of losing because he/she didn't have time to make changes.

Twice this year (in different leagues) I have been unable to make last minute changes to my teams when necessary. In one case, it probably cost me a game. It's my fault because I'm ultimately responsible for my lineup and didn't ask anyone to take care of it for me.

2. I think tanking is a deplorable thing. (Especially if there is money involved.) If someone in my league was purposely tanking games, either he would be gone the following year or I would.