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(Message started by: BarnabyWilde on Feb 3rd, 2004, 11:48pm)

Title: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 3rd, 2004, 11:48pm
Well, it is that time. Time for the first official J and J (Jeff and Jim) mock draft. Jeff anf I have studied hard, done our homework, and have come up with our first official mock NFL draft as a team. We will be posting one pick a day. We will more than likely do at least the first 2 rounds, maybe even more!

We would appreciate any and all commentary posted on the following thread:

http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=56;action=di

Here is the draft order:
1. San Diego: Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi
2. Oakland: Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh
3. Arizona: Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami OH
4. New York Giants: Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa
5. Washington: Kenechi Udeze, DE, USC
6. Detroit: Sean Taylor, SS, Miami, Fla
7. Atlanta: Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma
8. Cleveland: Shawn Andrews, OT, Arkansas
9. Jacksonville: Roy Williams, WR, Texas
10. Houston: Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami, Fla
11. Pittsburgh: Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.
12. New York Jets: Reggie Williams, WR, Washington
13. Buffalo: Kellen Winslow, TE, Miami, Fla
14. Chicago: Randy Starks, DT, Maryland
15. Tampa Bay: Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech
16. San Francisco: Deangelo Hall, CB, Virginia Tech
17. Cincinnati: Derrick Strait, CB, Oklahoma
18. New Orleans DJ Williams, LB, Miami Fla
19. Minnesota: Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio St.
20. Miami: Phillip Rivers, QB, NC St.
21. New England (from Balt.): Darnell Dockett, DT, Fla St.
22. Dallas: Nat Dorsey, OT, Ga Tech
23. Seattle: Will Smith, DE, Ohio St.
24. Denver: Antwan Odom, DT, Alabama
25. Green Bay: J.P. Losman, QB, Tulane
26. St. Louis: Ben Troupe, TE, Florida
27. Tennessee: Karlos Dansby, LB, Auburn
28. Philadelphia: Marquise Hill, DE, LSU
29. Indianpolis: Jonathan Vilma, LB, Miami Fla
30. Kansas City: Rashaun Woods, WR, Ok St.
31. Carolina: Will Poole, CB, USC
32. New England: Greg Jones, RB, Fla St.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 3rd, 2004, 11:57pm
1. San Diego Chargers select...

Eli Manning, QB, Mississippi

The Chargers will select a new Manning to lead their franchise. He is by far the best QB in the draft and will be an improvement over Brees, who will either ride the pine or be traded somewhere down the line. Manning is a complete player who can get it done.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 4th, 2004, 9:27am
2. Oakland Raiders

Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pittsburgh

Oakland is an aging team and has a number of needs and might trade out of this spot to a team looking for a franchise QB.  But if they stay put, they won't be able to pass up one of the best WRs to enter the NFL in many years.  Fitzgerald combines incredible WR skills with a big physical frame.  He'll continue the legacy left by Brown and Rice.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 4th, 2004, 10:14pm
3. Arizona Cardinals

Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Miami of Ohio

While they have their most pressing needs on the defensive side of the ball, the Cardinals select possibly the best QB in the 2004 draft.  Despite playing at a small school, Ben Roethlisberger has shown all of the skills necessary to be a franchise QB in the NFL.  He'll have the immediate advantages of a solid offensive line and a Pro Bowl WR in Anquan Boldin.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 5th, 2004, 9:09am
4. New York Giants

Robert Gallery, OT, Iowa


Before the season started, there were high expectations for the Giants. But injuries and inexperience decimated the offensive line, a major reason for their dismal 4-12 finish. At 6 ft 7, 320, Gallery is a monster left tackle that will anchor the Giants 2004 offensive line, giving Collins some blind side protection.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 6th, 2004, 8:43am
5. Washington Redskins

Kenechi Udeze, DE, University of Southern California

The Skins have a new (old) coach and a number of needs.  The current rumors indicate the selection of TE Kellen Winslow, Jr. as a possibility.  The Skins could also look at Kevin Jones or Stephen Jackson at the RB position.  But when it is all said and done, Gibbs will want to beef up his lines.  Kenechi Udeze is a big (6'4" and 280#) lineman who possesses a great first step, strength to hold position, and enough speed to be a tremendous pass rusher.  He registered 16.5 sacks in the 2003 season.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 7th, 2004, 9:22am
6. Detroit Lions

Sean Taylor, SS, Miami, Fla

The Lions get their impact player for their secondary who gives instant respect. This guy has all the tools to be great for years. At 6'3" 220, he has the size to intimidate receivers coming over the middle, and the speed (he runs a 4.35 40) to help out in coverage. A complete player.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 8th, 2004, 8:57am
7. Atlanta Falcons

Tommie Harris, DT, Oklahoma


At 6'3" 295, Harris, coming in after declaring himself eligible for the draft after his jr. year for the Sooners, is the top prospect at Defensive Tackle and will immediately help the Falcons interior line in stopping the run, and freeing up the ends for more sack opportunities.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 9th, 2004, 8:34am
8. Cleveland Browns

Shawn Andrews, OT, Arkansas

Some of the QB issues in Cleveland can be blamed on a weak offensive line.  By drafting Andrews, the Browns add a 6'6", 360# lineman with a nasty gametime disposition.  He should get an endorsement deal from IHOP because he serves up plenty of pancakes.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 10th, 2004, 12:51pm
9. Jacksonville Jaguars

Roy Williams, WR, Texas

The Jags need some youth at the WR position, and Williams is it. He'll learn for Jimmy Smith and Kevin Johnson and will be groomed to be Smith's replacement.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 11th, 2004, 7:54am
10.  Houston Texans

Vince Wilfork, DT, Miami

The Texans had one of the worst run defenses in the league in 2003.   By selecting Wilfork, the Texans get a gigantic man who is actually very athletic for his size.  He'll consistently demand the attention of two offensive blockers.  The only question about Wilfork is his ability to keep his weight under control and his desire to play hard every down.  

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 12th, 2004, 9:11am
11. Pittsburgh Steelers

Steven Jackson, RB, Oregon St.


Pittsburgh takes the best RB available here, and Jackson gets the nod just barely over Kevin Jones. With Bettis getting up in age and Zereoue not the answer, the Steelers are happy to take the versatile back from Oregon State.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 13th, 2004, 8:58am
12.  New York Jets

Reggie Williams, WR, Washington

The Jets tried to replace Laveranues Coles by signing Curtis Conway in the 2003 off-season.  That experiment failed miserably.  Santana Moss came into his own in 2003, but could do even more with a top-flight receiver on the opposite side of the field, and the Jets oblige by grabbing the big and powerful Reggie Williams in the first round.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 14th, 2004, 9:16am
13. Buffalo Bills

Kellen Winslow Jr, TE, Miami, Fla

Buffalo's passing woes last year could be contributed to several things, one of them being the lack of quality targets for Drew Bledsoe to throw to when he wasn't buried into the turf. With Winslow, the Bills get a quality tight end to go with Moulds and a hopefully improved Josh Reed.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 16th, 2004, 9:07am
14. Chicago Bears

Randy Starks, DT, Maryland

The Bears were hoping that the massive Vince Wilfork would fall to them here, but they get a player with, perhaps, even more upside in Randy Starks.  Starks, an underclassman, is very strong and weighs in at just over 300 pounds, however, he might be a bit tall at 6'4" for the DT position.  He possesses great athleticism and has great upside potential.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 16th, 2004, 10:22am
15. Tampa Bay Bucs

Kevin Jones, RB, Virginia Tech

Tampa Bay looks to make an upgrade here at the running back position, and Jones is the best pure runner the draft has to offer. He has great speed and toughness in the mold of a Jamal Lewis type back.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 17th, 2004, 8:34am
16.  San Francisco 49ers

DeAngelo Hall, CB, Virginia Tech

The 49ers need an upgrade in their secondary and fastest player coming out of college could be the one they are looking for.  While Hall has outstanding speed and very good coverage skills, the knock on him is his size.  At 5'9", he'll be giving up quite a few inches to the NFL WRs who seem to be getting taller every year.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 18th, 2004, 9:35am
17. Cincinnati Bengals

Derrick Strait, CB, Oklahoma

The Bengals were so close to making the playoffs in Marvin Lewis's first year as head coach. Improving his defense to reach them this year will be his priority, and getting another good corner is a top priority. Strait is as solid as they come, and starting opposite Tory James is not out of the question to start the season.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 19th, 2004, 6:07pm
18. New Orleans Saints

DJ Williams, LB, Miami, Fla

The Saints need some playmakers and speed on the defensive side of the ball, and Williams covers both. He will plug in and start right away for Jim Haslett and company.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 20th, 2004, 12:33am
19. Minnesota Vikings

Chris Gamble, CB, Ohio St.

Some may view this pick as a gamble as Chris Gamble is still learning the techniques of the CB position after switching from WR, but one thing is clear, Gamble has the athletic skills, the speed, the hands, and the attitude to succeed.  The Vikings collapse this past season was due in a very large part to defensive shortcomings.  Gamble will make it much harder to throw against the Vikings.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 21st, 2004, 9:39pm
20. Miami Dolphins

Philip Rivers, QB, NC State

The fins need a QB in the worst way.  Fiedler is not good enough to get them over the hump.  Griese was a disaster.  Unless they sign a good young signal caller (or a solid vet) before the draft, QB could be their first selection.  Rivers put up some amazing numbers as a 4-year starter at NC State and topped it off with a great Senior Bowl performance.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 23rd, 2004, 10:02am
21. New England Patriots (from Baltimore)

Darnell Dockett, DT, Florida St.

The Pats have a number of free agents on their defensive line and won't be able to sign all of them.  With Dockett they get a DT with outstanding athleticism.  He dominated a number of quality O-linemen in the Senior Bowl, increasing his stock dramatically.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 24th, 2004, 8:56am
22. Dallas Cowboys

Nat Dorsey, OT, Georgia Tech

The Cowboys may need some additional help on the O-line.  It seems that Parcells might stick with Quincy Carter and add a veteran RB (Corey Dillon).  Who better to protect the QB and open holes for the RB than a massive OT like Dorsey (who, as a freshman, dominated Julius Peppers).

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 25th, 2004, 9:27am
23. Seattle Seahawks

Will Smith, DE, Ohio St.

Holmgren and the Hawks are ecstatic that Smith is still available here. Needing a serious upgrade at the end position, Seattle gets a quick outside pass rusher with good upside.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by Philly on Feb 26th, 2004, 8:51am
24. Denver Broncos

Antwan Odom, DE, Alabama

The Broncos have two major areas of need: defensive line and corner.  Because the cornerback pool is so deep this year, the Broncos grab the best DE still available in Odom.  Odom is a big man who can get after a QB and also hold the point of attack to stop the run.  A good pass rush can also help make a weak secondary look better.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 27th, 2004, 9:05am
25. Green Bay Packers

J.P. Losman, QB, Tulane

A guy whos stock has risen as of late, Losman becomes the heir apparent to Bret Favre. Losman has all the tools to be a sucessful NFL Quarterback, and he gets to learn from one of the all time greats. Not a bad gig.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Feb 28th, 2004, 5:11am
26. St. Louis Rams

Ben Troupe, TE, Florida


The Rams could use a big tight end in the red zone, and Troupe fits the bill. He's got nice hands and at 6 ft 4 295, is a big target. He is also an excellent blocker as well.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 1st, 2004, 2:55pm
27. Tennessee Titans

Karlos Dansby, LB, Auburn

The Titans build on there already formidable defense by adding Dansby, a versatile linebacker. He also adds insurance if Jevon Kearse bolts via free agency. A solid pick this late in the first round.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 1st, 2004, 2:58pm
28. Philadelphia Eagles

Marquise Hill, DE, LSU

Standing tall at 6 ft 7, 300 pounds, Hill is a great pick by Reid and company. He is a great pure rusher and hard to move off the line. Also is an exceptional athlete.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 2nd, 2004, 7:03pm
29. Indianapolis Colts

Jonathan Vilma, LB, Miami, Fla.

The colts just released a slew of players, including Chad Bratzke. They need some help on defense, and Vilma is a complete linebacker. He will step right in and start for Dungy.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 2nd, 2004, 7:05pm
30. Kansas City Chiefs

Rashaun Woods, WR, Oklahoma St.

Of all the receivers in this years draft, Woods is the one guy who can produce right away. He has all the tools, plus the maturity to be a great NFL receiver. Look for him to become a favorite target downfield for Trent Green.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 4th, 2004, 5:55pm
31. Carolina Panthers

Will Poole, CB, USC

The Panthers go defense here, and Poole has been moving up the draft boards lately. He has the luxury of a great front four in front of him and a great defensive minded coach in John Fox. He has start by mid year.

Title: Re: The J and J NFL Mock Draft
Post by BarnabyWilde on Mar 4th, 2004, 5:57pm
32. New England Patriots

Greg Jones, RB, Fla St.

Another guy moving up the draft charts with his great combine workout and chisled frame, this bruiser is a great fit for the defending champions.



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