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Title: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 17th, 2005, 12:19pm Tonight, yours truly [smiley=awwgee.gif] is finally going to battle for "the Gridiron". Steggie and 11 other fantasy football web site guru dudes [smiley=zenmaster.gif] [smiley=sultan.gif] [smiley=wiseman.gif] [smiley=sophisticate.gif] [smiley=threed.gif] [smiley=borg.gif] [smiley=spchef.gif] [smiley=king.gif] [smiley=jammaster.gif] [smiley=crystalball.gif] [smiley=boxer.gif] [smiley=sumo.gif] (I have always been just a little uncomfortable with (the overusage of) the term "expert" (in the fantasy football world)) will commence the draft for the... It is the first time "the Gridiron @FantasyFootballer.com" is being represented in one of these type things. [smiley=nervous.gif] I hope I can make us proud. [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] In any event, in this thread I will update my Gridironers of and give the rationale behind my picks in an attempt to facilitate discussion AND the others in the league are welcome to do the same/give their picks and takes/join in the discussion/do a little trash talkin'/etc./etc. It should be fun! Okay, boyz, here's to wishin' for a little "lady luck"... [smiley=shamrock.gif][smiley=hooters.gif][smiley=shammy.gif][smiley=boobies.gif][smiley=stpat.gif][smiley=titflash.gif] ... ;D ;) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 17th, 2005, 1:47pm By the way, here is a link to the league's home page: http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2005/home/87061. Let's hear it for the home team. [smiley=havinablast.gif] ... ;) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by Philly on Jun 17th, 2005, 3:03pm Go get 'em Steggie. Show them what it means to be a FantasyFootballer! [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2005, 2:42am Thanks for the words of support, Phil!!! [smiley=bow.gif] I will try to represent us well. ;D At 1.08 Steg takes... [smiley=drummer.gif] RB Edgerrin James. Holy yit... That was a TOUGH call!!! :-/ Any thoughts??? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by DirkDiggler on Jun 18th, 2005, 8:16am on 06/18/05 at 02:42:29, StegRock wrote:
Good luck Steg. My only helpful hint is to realize you can get Plummer in the later rounds. No need to use your next pick on him!! [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2005, 11:57am on 06/18/05 at 08:16:19, DirkDiggler wrote:
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by Walker Boh on Jun 18th, 2005, 12:53pm What a great idea. This type of league should generate a lot of traffic, especially if you do well (no pressure or anything... [smiley=nervous.gif]) Now get out there and kick some ass brother! [smiley=deadhorse.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2005, 4:37pm Thanks, Double D, WB for the home-team love... [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] I'll give 'em a run, you guys know. This league is good... [smiley=dog.gif] for me to poop on... [smiley=horse.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] Some brief Round 1 analysis... Best Value Pick - RB Priest Holmes at #6 Holmes could be put up #1 numbers, will put up top numbers as long as FFX has him. Worst Pick Value-wise - QB Daunte Culpepper at #5 First, quarterbacks can be waited on: you only start one AND there's the old (and true, in this style league) fact of the matter that quarterbacks are not as valuable as running backs and perhaps even wide receivers. Then, we are now beginning a new era for C-pep, one WITHOUT Randy Moss and in his place a rookie. Also, I like the Tomlinson (of course) and McGahee (ballsy) picks. I am NOT keen on the Dillon (too early) and Davis (too inconsistent) picks. [smiley=shrug.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2005, 9:00pm Fellow Xtreme Leaguers,... neck is bulled... and I am dug in deep and ready to hit the sled here tonight. Let's get it on!!! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 18th, 2005, 9:06pm I was heartbroken that Willis didn't make it to 1.10.... He just kept slipping. I'da possibly taken him 1.2 over Manning. Definitely woulda been my 1.3 pick though... I like getting JJ at 2.3. Let's see where we go from here. Steg thanks for putting this together.. ROTOWORLD.COM Rules.... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 18th, 2005, 9:12pm Quote:
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I agree, although there are 2 QB's worthy of 1st round status, Culpepper is one of them, and we all know who the other guy is. In defense of this pick though, I would say that Culpepper will miss Randy Moss less than Randy Moss misses Culpepper. (Moss went at #11, this was also an arguably bad value). |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 18th, 2005, 9:15pm Quote:
I agree, getting Julius Jones at 2.3 was a steal. It definitely made trading out of the first round (RotoWorld gave up his 1st rounder to FFXtreme) seem like a great idea. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2005, 9:34pm on 06/18/05 at 21:12:31, junkyardjake wrote:
Deuce went a bit too early. ... As for Alexander, he wasn't being undervalued here on "the Gridiron" last year: http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=56;action=display;num=1090808905. [smiley=awwgee.gif] (Of course, Portis was being overvalued.) :-[ I actually remember Edge's (still) being undervalued last year... much more so than Alexander. But, then again, I don't get around much... [smiley=gettinridden.gif] ... [smiley=whistle.gif] with regards to mock drafts and such. ;) ... [smiley=idontknow.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 18th, 2005, 9:48pm on 06/18/05 at 16:37:10, StegRock wrote:
This league scoring is a bit different compared to most common leagues. Passers are VERY important, with the 6 pts per TD pass format. Every Culpepper TD pass is equal to each TD scored by Holmes, Dillon, and James. That factor greatly effected my rankings. Rather than hope H/D/J gets 12 scores, I prefer to go with Culpepper who promises 25 TDP. (I'd not be surprised if Cullpepper scores more TD points than all three combined!) Yes. QBs can be had later. A Brooks or Vick or Hasselbeck can all be valuable here. Yet, none of those common FF QB starters is projected near the Viking passer, who regualrly rushes for a few, too. Sooo.. Let's just wait and see who benefits most - The Get-Premium-QB-Guys or the Favre-Is-King fellas. I think I know the answer... and so will you. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2005, 9:52pm First off, rotoworldchris and TC, thanks for coming aboard and a hearty [smiley=welcome.gif] to "the Gridiron", my fellow fantasy footballers! I know you've got your own FF endeavors to take care of, but I hope you drop on by here with your insights from time to time. :) ... With respect to your response right above, TC,... fair enough. :) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 18th, 2005, 9:53pm Yes the Gridiron had Alexander correct at #5. Actually, looking at last year's average draft position he was going around #5, but ended the season as the #1 RB. I guess that isn't a major overvaluation, but my point was you can get Deuce at #10, and he may play like a top 5. Looking at last years rankings actually suggests a more interesting disparity. I remember loving Kevan Barlow at #15, and getting screwed by him in every league I took him. (Steg, actually if I recall correctly, you hated Barlow last year, that was a good call). |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2005, 10:02pm Not to ruin the flow of our conversation here, BUT we are having terrible luck with regards to getting into a rhythm with this draft here. It seems like the respective rhythms of each of our lives aren't jiving at all. Oh, well.. I'm in no particular rush. It is this that we live for, so... :) (However, it is my mom's 70th [smiley=bdaycakesmiley.gif] birthday tomorrow; my wife and I will be very busy with her all day.) :-/ |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 18th, 2005, 10:05pm My top 3 rbs this year are LT2 Willis Deuce.... So was salivating at 1.10 but i really like Willis and even though Icould hae kept the 1.10 and loved Deuce.... I felt the rest of the picks were worth it especiallly if JJ or KJ fell to me.. I was hoping for JJ and got him.... So it worked out well for me imo. I didn't like the Dillon pick or the Culp pick. The Moss pick I didn't mind as much since he should be the top WR. Even if he's #25 overall that's not bad if there's only 8 WRs in the top 50.... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 18th, 2005, 10:14pm Quote:
I thought I was the only nut, my top three are exactly the same, expect I have Willis at #3 and Deuce at #2. (Only because J.P. Losman starting for the Bills is a bit of a wildcard at this point). |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2005, 10:31pm [offtopic]Just a quick heads-up... A great way for us to get to know one another... and kill some time between picks... [smiley=whistle.gif] is by way of our chatroom here on "the Gridiron": http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=&action=chatnow&job=login. Enjoy![/offtopic] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 18th, 2005, 11:24pm What luck? Good or bad, I don't know, but... Right as I was logging out from the league site and ready to give up and shut down for the night, HuddleGeeks finally showed up. Unbelievable! Literally, before my log-out he still hadn't shown, on the log-out reload he had. ... Anyway, I feel very [smiley=shammy.gif] lucky [smiley=shamrock.gif] to have gotten Tiki at 2.05! Coughlin [smiley=coach.gif] will run the hell out of him and overall they should be an improved team from last year! [smiley=yes.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 18th, 2005, 11:47pm Let's get rd 3 done tonight .... :o |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 19th, 2005, 12:53am on 06/18/05 at 23:47:54, rotoworldchris wrote:
Why the hurry? It's mid-June and there are several weeks until the trainning camps even begin. IMO, the current pace seems fast, not slow. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 19th, 2005, 2:23am Mainly because this is an "experts" draft....In all honesty if we could have all been online at the same time, it should have been 1 night. I for one am leaving Tuesday very early for FL and will have extremely limited internet time for about 2 weeks. I even took off work on Friday night because I thought we were gonna just pound out as much as we could that night. Anyway.. hopefully the pace speads up. If I'm ever up and haven't picked in a while... 8187207186 is my cell. Leave me a voice mail of the players since my alst pick and i'll be able to hopefully at least call back soon with a pick so it doesn't get stuck on me... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 19th, 2005, 6:22am Ok, FantasyFootballXtreme.com has checked in! I'm going to try and respond to everything that caught my eye as i tried to catch up... 1) First, thanks for setting this up, Steg! 2) McAllister was a steal at 10, not a stretch... i think i read that some place near the beginning, possibly from Steg 3) This draft is taking a while, TC, and like a few have said, we have things to do, we are in an "Expert" league and most importantly, at least 8 of us expected a fast draft, one reason we signed up. I still would have did it, but man, this is the slowest one ive been involved in 4) Thanks to RC for setting up the league 5) Holmes was a STEAL at 6. I agree, Steg! 6) For those on the message board, Rotoworld (Chris) and myself made a huge trade. He got my 2nd, 3rd and 4th, I got the 6 pick (holmes) his 5th and 7th. We swapped a few later picks in the 8th, 14th and 15th, but for the most part that was the trade. So FantasyFootballXtreme.com has: Holmes and McAllister so far... bring it 7) you can all have fun fighting for second! :) Thanks again for setting this up FantasyFootballer.com, i will be back to talk trash soon! Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 19th, 2005, 11:36am First off, [smiley=welcome.gif] to "the Gridiron", FFX Smitty. Thanks for coming aboard, and as I told the others, I know you are busy with your own fantasy football thang, but please do try to drop on by on occasion to share your insights. ... Regarding the pace of the draft,... honestly, this is retarded. At least, if you are going to be absent for an extended period and don't even have time to submit a pre-draft list (like the position I was in on Friday night, which, mind you, though, should not happen often for the duration of ONE draft), you should let everybody know beforehand as a courtesy. Better yet, you should at least provide an alternate way to be contacted like rotoworldchris does above. On Friday I gave RC my cell phone number and was prepared, though not prepared, to make picks while driving up 95 from DC to Jersey. This is a league for fantasy football web site owners... You gotta show some dedication and respect for your fellow competitors. The team we are currently stuck on has not shown much of either... [smiley=doseofreality.gif] has caused us to lose over 15 hours cumulatively and counting. :-/ A draft of this caliber should not take more than one week to complete. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 19th, 2005, 11:44am OK.. I'm usually very very nice and patient etc but this is getting kind of ridiculous. 18 hours and 11 minutes ago is the last time Grogan's checked in.... The last pick was over 12 hours ago.... He's been on the clock over his 10 hours and I wasn't under the impression that we were turning the clock off overnight. At this point I hope that there was an extreme situation that kept him away (Although i obviouslyhope it turns out alright) because if not then Grogan's is just rude and disrespectful. I want to say skip hi spick but how honest an expert's league if one guy's got his pick skipped. But honestly WTF?!?!?!? We should be close to done with the whole thing not just 1/2 way through rd 2. If this is how the league wants to do things then that is ok but while I'm out I'll check in twice a day, once at night and once during the day, if I'm ever up it'll be a long wait between. And we can finish rd 10 in July sometime... What am I saying, I couldn't handle that myself. Fact is that we signed up to represent our sites and ourselves and compete. This is crap so far and we need to fix things asap. I know today is Father's Day and if some of you are lucky enough to be Fathers I congratulate you and understand that you can't be online 24/7 but checking to see if you're up takes maybe 30 seconds... That shouldn't be an issue so please have respect for the other members of this league. Thanks... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 19th, 2005, 12:14pm Draft Pick Time Limit Turned: On and set to 10:00 hours.... Timer is off between 1 a.m. ET and 6 a.m. ET Nothing needs fixing.. yet. Those are the agreed rules. Please don't be critical of those that use all or part of their 10 hour selection period. As long as all league members follow the same format, we should be fine with the draft's pace. Dan is a respected FFLer. Just like you, he would not likely commit to a schedule he could not follow. As an example, I will be mostly offline Sunday 1pm to 7pm, Monday 9am until 10pm, Tuesday 10am to 10pm, Wednesday 2pm to 10pm, Friday 3pm to 10pm and so on. Pick list will be active for any pending selections of mine. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 19th, 2005, 12:38pm ok...cool i didn't see the off time.... i'm just getting frustrated at the lack of communication. My pointis that if you're gonan be away... post it.. email it.. let it be gloriously known. Or leave a # to say hey... ___ &___ etc went since your last pick.. know who you want? Yes sweet... No, ok think about it and i'll call you in let's say 30 min... Cuz especially this early it's not rocket science. We all know who we like and where we have people slated. I just like being curtious to everyone...The faster we get this finished, the sooner we're not chained to the draft... I'll be back soon.... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 19th, 2005, 1:01pm we're back on track.... onward to the 3rd rd.... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 19th, 2005, 1:51pm Guys I'm going to work.. cell again is 8187207186. If I get up please text me who's gone since my pick... and then i'll send in my pick. I can try to call too, if i can pick the phone up. Shouldn't be a long hold up with me, if it gets there which it hopefully will... Thanks Chris |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by MoSneakyFord on Jun 19th, 2005, 2:17pm Hey guys. I completely agree with the sentiments that this draft is moving too slowly. We basically need to make a decision, as to whether we all want to try to get this done, or whether we want to check in once a day for the next 2 months. Being split half and half is going to cause a lot of frustration. Honestly, the easiest way to speed things up, is to pre-rank the players. I'm not saying you have to enter your picks 3 rounds in advance. That's stupid. But if you are up in 4 or 5 picks, you only have to enter 5 players. One of them will be guaranteed to be there. Every pick that gets done in 1 second is a huge bonus. As far as draft analysis goes. Priest Holmes at 6 made me cry. I would have taken him at #1. And I didn't like the Culpepper pick. I think his stats are going to take a hit this year. Everything else looked pretty normal. There's alot of draft yet, so anything can happen. And for the record, I wasn't very pleased with the last pick of the draft. I would have much rather been in the middle. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 19th, 2005, 7:37pm First and foremost, MoSneaky Guys, [smiley=welcome.gif] to "the Gridiron"! Once again, I reiterate... I know you have your own sites to take care of, but I hope you can make an occasional swing by here and share your fantasy takes. [smiley=yes.gif] ... Again, with regards to the pace of the draft, TC, if EVERYBODY (selfishly) pushed the envelope and took 10 hours to pick, the draft would take 1,920 hours, a.k.a. 80 days. Now, I'm not at all saying that that is going to happen. But, that's exactly the point. The 10-hour extension is supposed to just be a failsafe for the "occasional" exceptional case. And, frankly speaking, as for your bold announcement of your being "totally" unavailable for 13 hours on Monday and 12 hours on Tuesday (a bit excessive, don't you think?) when you are involved in a draft with dudes who want to get a move-on, that's pretty beat. That's something that should have been considered (in the sense of being "considerate") before deciding to join in. And, you shouldn't be expecting to use the fall-back 10-hour rule to justify this. In any case, I surely hope, since you know all this well beforehand, that you are submitting pre-draft lists so as to (proactively) eliminate the angst that will surely ensue if you just "take off" for 25 hours tomorrow and Tuesday. [smiley=doseofreality.gif] ... Lastly, a little Round 2 analysis... Best Value Pick - RB Stephen Jackson at 2.09 Bottom line, I would have taken him above any of the backs taken between Tiki and him, and many might argue that he should have gone before Tiki. Worst Pick Value-wise - RB Clinton Portis at 2.04 I'm sorry... I just am not sold. I think he is still being overvalued based on his Denver days. Washington, I think, will remain a different story. Other picks of the second round I liked: RB's Tiki Barber (obviously, [smiley=awwgee.gif] Tom Coughlin is just a stat-monster tailback producer), Kevin Jones and Julius Jones (two next-generation young guns ready to really break out), Ahman Green and Curtis Martin (both still solid). Picks of the second round I did NOT like: RB LaMont Jordan (mind you, I like this guy; I just think he went too high... and not to me in the third) ;) and QB Donovan McNabb (I just think there is going to be a changing of the guard (after Manning) as far as fantasy quarterbacks are concerned this year). Overall, Round TWO was SOLID!!! Good job, fellas!!! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 19th, 2005, 7:58pm I earlier wrote that I would be 'mostly offline' during those dates and times. Like today (Sunday), I was able to spot check the draft during my work shift. The 2nd round selection was made about 3 hours after it went on the clock. The 10 hour window makes it possible for me to work, play, and draft. Thanks! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by 411ff on Jun 19th, 2005, 9:55pm No question I would have taken Priest #2 if TD passes weren't inflated to 6 points each. I know top tier qbs can be gotten later, but Manning is 20 tds better than most. I was psyched that Deuce Mc was falling to me at #11. When he went, I decided I'd rather have the best receiver than the 10th best runningback. Before you all celebrate 2 stud running backs too soon, just remember that with 3 receivers starting, most of your points will come from receivers and quarterbacks. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 19th, 2005, 10:11pm Guys i'll pick in the next 20 minutes... unless someone sneds nice offer for the pick... It is available... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 19th, 2005, 10:15pm 411ff, [smiley=welcome.gif] ! So glad you made it over. Like the rest, I encourage you to try to drop on by throughout the season as you can; I understand that you have your own site to run, but your insights here too will be appreciated. ... We'll see about the rest. ;) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by MoSneakyFord on Jun 19th, 2005, 10:29pm please pick now. Grogan is up next, and was actually at the site in the last minute. Maybe we can keep things moving along. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 19th, 2005, 10:31pm on 06/19/05 at 21:55:38, 411ff wrote:
Based on the scoring, I get the point loud and clear regarding QB's. BUT, I have thought about it for a few minutes now [smiley=thinking.gif] and I don't get your point regarding receivers (vis-a-vis running backs). [smiley=uh.gif] Isn't it all about the proportionality of the tiers of the two positions with considerations to the difference in degree of those tiers in light of a 3:2 ratio? Perhaps there is a further explanation you can give to help me understand your point/strategy here. My not getting it may be me. [smiley=dunce.gif] Also, on this note, kind of, I am a little confused on something quite a bit bigger now... Do we start 2 RB's and 3 WR's OR 2 RB's, 2 WR's and 1 Flex??? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by MoSneakyFord on Jun 19th, 2005, 10:33pm taken directly from the league page Starting Lineup Setup Total Starters: 8 Number of Starting QBs: 1 Number of Starting RBs: 2 Number of Starting WRs: 3 Number of Starting TEs: 1 Number of Starting PKs: 1 Number of Starting Defs: 1 Should starting lineups be hidden from all owners until after kickoff of the first game of the week? No |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 19th, 2005, 10:45pm Thanks, MSF! [smiley=bow.gif] For rules and stuff I've been going by an instant message here on "the Gridiron" from JYJ. I seem to find it a bit hard to find info quickly on the league site. [smiley=shrug.gif] ... [smiley=dunce.gif] And, yea, rotoworldchris, let's make that pick, bro,... especially in light of your "stance" above. Grogan's signed in a few minutes ago; I am here. Maybe, just maybe, we can get this thing rolling tonight,... Father's Day... the irony. It's been about 30 minutes since you made that post saying you'd pick in 20 minutes. ?.?.? It would suck if we lose this whole night because of a delay now. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by MoSneakyFord on Jun 19th, 2005, 10:48pm the site navigation is best done through the grey dropdown menu at the top of the page. The league rules are a selection under the "reports" heading. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 19th, 2005, 10:53pm Thanks for getting that pick up, rwc! Let's get this thing... [smiley=rollin.gif] ... [smiley=yes.gif] ... [smiley=lickinmychops.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 19th, 2005, 11:03pm ... And, now we wait... :-/ Anyway, about five picks ago I hoped to get Javon Walker or Joe Horn, in that order, with my 3.08 pick. I got my second choice. Not... ;D , but... :) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 20th, 2005, 12:07am As of right now, I am willing to trade my next pick, 4.05. I am willing to either move up OR move down. PLEASE make offers by "private message" here on "the Gridiron" OR right on this thread as I do not have e-mail access where I am right now (long story). The picks between now and mine will affect this status. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 20th, 2005, 12:32am Okay... I'm hitting the sack for tonight. [smiley=sleepers.gif] I'll see yous on the morrow. [smiley=wavinbye.gif] Depending on how the picks go betwixt, I may still be willing to make a deal tomorrow as per my prior post. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 20th, 2005, 1:09am Steg, how's this trade look to you ? My 5.10 (#58), 5.11(#59), 7.02(#74) for Your 4.05(#41), 6.05(#65), 8.05(#89) I don't know if it fits your objectives, but it comes out completely even on the pick calculator: http://www.footballguys.com/pickvalue.htm (I'm not sure if it fits my objectives either, I just like trading picks) [smiley=smileytrash.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 20th, 2005, 3:30am Ok, fellas, I sent out an email to the league about speeding things up. It was a friendly email as I want 11 buddies out of this and not a split group of them! :) We should pick it up, we just all need to request that via email as many don't check this. As it stands now, only a few people have emailed that request out. 411: Manning, Randy and Owens sure will be interesting, I'll tell you that! Not sure if I would have done it, but we will see if you fill in the rest of your team! Man I love drafting! Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 20th, 2005, 3:58am Guys I totally apologize for that delat at the 3.10 pick... I had put Andre in as a predraft but I must not have submitted it. Totally my bad... I was kinda just waiting to see an IM saying hey your 4.3 is up... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 20th, 2005, 11:16am on 06/20/05 at 01:09:33, junkyardjake wrote:
With all due respect, RC, someone needs to throw that pick calculator against the wall... ;) Of course, you'd like trading draft picks if people make deals like that with ya. ;) So,... I guess I'll head over [smiley=onit.gif] and see if I'm up... [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] ... Also, I know I asked this by e-mail, but no one responded in time before I left DC and here I don't have e-mail access (long story) and won't until I get back to DC Tuesday evening/night... (Sorry for being such a pain. :-[) I know rosters are comprised of 16 spots and how weekly starting lineups are composed. BUT, are there any restrictions on the number of players you can draft at each position (I hope not; that's dumb)? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 20th, 2005, 11:58am I sent an offer last night... interested.. counter? Just cuz it influences my pick here.... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 20th, 2005, 1:12pm K I'm picking... can't hold the draft up any longer.... Please find me if yousee something though... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 20th, 2005, 1:18pm on 06/20/05 at 11:58:00, rotoworldchris wrote:
rwc, with all due respect, I have mentioned this numerous times now in various posts, including right in the trade post, I do NOT have e-mail access right now (it's a long story). I clearly stated in the post where I mentioned the trade to please contact me by "private message" here on "the Gridiron" OR make the offer right on this thread; I explicitly stated NOT to send me an e-mail (as that would likely end up causing a colossal waste of time, which it has, because I wouldn't be able to retrieve it). To send me a "private message" here, just click on my username "StegRock" and it's pretty idiot-proof from there: click on "Send this person a private message" (or something like that) on the page you are brought to. Also, can someone please respond to my query below? on 06/20/05 at 11:16:22, StegRock wrote:
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 20th, 2005, 1:19pm on 06/20/05 at 13:12:17, rotoworldchris wrote:
What a clusterfuck that turned out to be! :P |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 20th, 2005, 1:45pm Hey Steg... I didn't offer it via email I offered it on the site.. ;) I can do private messages here too... Also no limit to # on our roster... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 20th, 2005, 2:10pm Quote:
Steg, as Chris stated, there are no limits to the number of players you may have at any position. Quote:
Dude, the pick calculator doesn't lie ! That could have been the deal that put Team Steg over the top ! [smiley=smileytrash.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 20th, 2005, 3:19pm Or, Hines Ward could be the pick that puts me over the top. ;) Really, though, I am very pleased to have gotten him at 4.05! ... Now, for some Round 3 analysis... Best Value Pick - WR Javon Walker at 3.07 I had him targetted [smiley=bullseye.gif] at 3.08! Damn! I think he is going to be, at worst, solid, but, in all likelihood, HUGE this year. I would have taken Walker ahead of every guy taken from 2.12 up until his pick except for Harrison (and I had Gonzalez right behind Walker and Horn). Worst Pick Value-wise - RB Carnell Williams at 3.05 Just too early for a rook, no matter how potentially delicious the situation looks, and, mind you, I think it looks pretty good for Williams down there, but not third-round good. Other third-round picks I particularly like: Gonzalez at 3.06, Horn at 3.08, Jackson at 3.12. Third-round picks I do not like: Owens at 3.02 (just too risky at this point... and also in light of the guy's current roster), Vick (who I do love, but really isn't the guy to target in this league so as to take advantage of the "bump" in passing touchdowns that you get in this league) at 3.04, Westbrook at 3.05 (like him in a GBRFL-style situation, but not as much in a regular fantasy points league), Wayne at 3.09 (just too early, with the kind of steady-Eddie WR talent still on the board, to be finding out if last year was indicative of a trend or was an anomaly?). |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 20th, 2005, 5:27pm Guys just so everyone knows.. we're waiting on a trade to process. Then things will resume. I don't have the current pick anymore.... :o |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 20th, 2005, 6:18pm I'm supposed to tell RC to get on Yahoo to chat Smitty up when RC comes around. Also to process the deal. Smitty is having email problems. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by MoSneakyFord on Jun 20th, 2005, 6:26pm on 06/20/05 at 15:19:47, StegRock wrote:
I pretty much agree with most of that. However, I think the best value pick was probably Tatum Bell at 3.11. I was really hoping i could get him and Jackson. I instead got forced into taking Gates, even though I didn't really want to. Hines Ward was my 2nd option. I figured i'd rather have the production from the TE spot, and get my WRs later on. I guess if you want to look on the bright side, this draft gives you a LOT of time to analyze things. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 20th, 2005, 7:01pm Yea, I would have picked already, waiting on the trade to be processed. No worries, RC, you have been on the ball the entire time, good work! Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 20th, 2005, 7:09pm Hey Smitty, I'm on my way out now, I'll buzz you the messenger, In the meantime, I just want to list this proposed trade again to make sure I would be approving the correct thing (because, like I said, it looks very one-sided and maybe this isn't what you guys agreed to). FFXtreme gives up: Picks #63, #71 and #78 RotoWorld gives up: Picks #43, #163 and #178 |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 20th, 2005, 7:58pm Wow! This hold-up this afternoon/evening has stunk. :P I actually thought we might have a chance to get a FULL round OR TWO in... Not likely! :-/ |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 20th, 2005, 8:04pm Sorry for the holdup, but I just want Smitty to confirm that I am approving the trade that he and Chris agreed to. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 20th, 2005, 8:23pm Yep, i agree to that. The calc doesn't judge what rbs are off the board, etc. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 20th, 2005, 10:14pm Sorry, fellas, but this league is over now! FantasyFootballXtreme.com's Squad through the 4th round. 1.06 - Holmes 1.10 - McAllister 4.07 - Ronnie Brown 4.11 - Larry Johnson Ok, I'll be the first to say, Larry in the 4th round is EARLY. But considering he was nearing the top of the pre-draft list, which is kind of a bad thing at times because it influences people to take guys when they reach the top. We all have brains, not saying that, but when you are reminded, "hey, Larry is ranked 4th right now" you know he won't last 10 picks. Larry had to be taken there and everyone can read why i think so here: http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com/ I breakdown my "KC Runner Theory" and how it will be the top back in the league, without overlapping stats. As far as my other picks thus far: P r i e s t H o l m e s With LJ, there is not one team that can say they have top 4 stats no matter what happens. Holmes and LJ could both get hurt, so there are no guarantees but come on, this is pretty secure. D e u c e M c A l l i s t e r There are a wide range of opinions about Deuce this season, ranging from "he'll be top 2 in RBs" to "I wouldn't take him in the first round." While often hurt, Deuce plays through the pain. He came back last year way earlier than people thought he would and he still managed at 1000 yard season and 9 scores - all on a hurt frame! He is one of those guys that is worst case only top ten, but very capable of leading the league in rushing yards. I love him as a #2 rb, especially with the #3 back that I landed. R o n n i e B r o w n Man o man, Ronnie falls this far in the 4th? He is a 3rd rounder in my eyes, which is why I gave up my two 6th round picks along with my 7th for this 4th round selection. The footballguys.com pick value calculator had me taking a pretty good beating for this trade (and all of my trades, really). I don't agree and will break that down last. Back to Brown! This kid is gonna be a machine, especially for 4 games and as the running crews look slim with some teams, I will be offered a lot more than what I paid for the potential stud runner. Brown is the best 3rd running back so far in our fantasy league and could be some team's #2. L a r r y J o h n s o n Like I said, way too EARLY, for even me but I had to do it. He was rising on the pre-ranked list and would have been taken by my next pick, I think. I could have tried to grab him at 5.11 but being how I feel about the KC Runners, this makes or breaks my season. WRs/TEs/QBs I'm hurting bad compared to the rest of the league, but these are the positions you can recover from with late draft picks and free agent pick ups. I am not worried at all about these positions as I just finished another Expert Draft http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com/2k5expertleague.html and boy was their value down low. There are free agent wide receivers right now that I'd love to pick up but can't, so the no depth idea was something I wanted to try for sure with a 2-headed moster running crew like i have. P i c k V a l u e C a l c The Pick Value Calc had me taking it in the you know what on all of my trades, one was almost 70% improvment for Rotoworld, yet here is what my draft order looks like (and i didn't have an advantage on one of those trades on the calc): 1st - 1.06 and 1.10 2nd - moved it up the the ten spot 3rd - moved it down to the 4th round 4th - 4.07 and 4.11 5th - 5.11 6th - moved it to one of the last rounds 8th - moved it to a late round 9th - " " " " * the pick value calc STILL IS SOLID, that isn't my point, i just think there are running back factors it can't account for. So tell me who wouldn't move their 6-9th rounders back to move your 15 to 6 (Getting holmes)? - Oh, and the other cost of that move was that I had to move my 3rd to the 4th. That is great trading in my opinion. We will see what I do or who I land with my 5.11 pick, but the core of my team will give me a GREAT CHANCE in this league. I look forward to the battle, fellas! Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com Ps, I wrote this quick, sorry for any errors or spelling mistakes |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 20th, 2005, 10:53pm 4.07 FantasyFootballXtreme Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Mon Jun 20 8:35:25 p.m. ET 2005 Some will say I gave up a lot in three picks to move up to this spot, but Brown is insane as a #3 rb. We only start 3 but no one will compete at rb with me and I love finding sleepers. --- True. I would have claimed RB RBrown MIA with the following 4.08 selection. (Got RB CBrown TEN, instead) Good trade for you! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 20th, 2005, 10:58pm Ok all... Since I don't have a 5th rder and like being included in the good picks / bad picks categories... I'm looking for one.. Let me know if you see something. I'd also state that I was originally attempting to get the 4.11 from Smitty. Then asked if he wanted the 4.7 he came back with a trade that was even more in my favor at first. He wanted his guy and paid for him and I wish him well for it. I woulda taken S.Smith there. Great pick. I'd like him if he's on the trading block. Be back soon...Softball game... send offers to my email.. chrisbasler@hotmail.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 21st, 2005, 12:30am I mean we only start "2 rbs", i know it is two, just used to saying 3 in my other leagues. It was tough not taking a wr there as i want to have starters, but i love the value. Just wanted to clear that up so some of you don't think i think we start 3rbs. Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by MoSneakyFord on Jun 21st, 2005, 12:31am on 06/20/05 at 22:14:31, FFXtreme wrote:
I dunno about that. Holmes and McAllister are certainly impressive. But you're going to need some sleepers to come through somewhere, to make this team complete. As it stands, you can get one more guy in about 10 picks. Then almost 60 players are going to drop off the board before you pick again. You'll then have the pleasure of choosing between guys like Keary Colbert and TJ Houshmanzadeh as your #1 WR. I'll say this, I would kill to have gotten priest at #6. I think you got the top RB in the league. However, you also had to spend a 4th rounder to safeguard him. That takes away from the value. I'm not completely sold on Ronnie Brown either. What happens if/when Williams returns? Either way, he's going to be sitting on your bench, so long as McAllister is healthy. I've seen people use your strategy, trading up to land two big backs. But they usually sacrifice depth at all positions, and use their other picks to get the best possible starting lineup they can. I've not seen anyone try this strategy and use their subsequent picks on more RBs. You're going to have to be dead on with your WR sleepers, if you are going to steamroll the league. That's my opinion anyway. Maybe you could tell me who your WR sleepers are, and i'll tell you if I think you'll win the league or not. ;D |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 21st, 2005, 1:10am Yea, you are right, I need to be on the money with my wrs, but i still have a pick coming up, my #1 wr could be there. Ronnie Brown is going to have crazy-trade value a few weeks into the season. I wll probably be able to get a WR above the talent that was available when i picked Brown. This is why we play the game, and for sure this isn't my normal way to draft, but most expert drafts don't have pick trading, so I just went after it! :) Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com Thanks for the comments, by the way, lets draft, fellas! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 21st, 2005, 6:55am OK everyone... I'm leaving for FL in about an hour... I will be able to check my phone during my layover. Someone please text me if I come up. Also please text the players since the beginning of Rd 5. That way I can call or text my pick back. 8187207186 is my cell #. Keep me up to date... Thanks. Chris rotoworld.com I'm assuming I can get to the internet by around 8p.m. EST... But I'm hoping I will have already sent a few picks in... OK everyone.. I'm outtie... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by Philly on Jun 21st, 2005, 9:11am I'm really glad you guys are posting your thoughts on the draft here. It has been VERY interesting watching it unfold as an outsider. Some very unorthodox strategies happening here that have me intrigued... Keep up the great banter! ;D [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:12am I agonized at 5.08... BUT am VERY pleased with the options I had... The decision maker: Fred Taylor's bye-week works better with my current corps of running backs than that of the other guy I was seriously considering and having two superb tailbacks already aboard (Edge and Tiki) I have the time to wait on Taylor, week five, Edge's bye. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 21st, 2005, 10:30am Taylor was a great pick where you got him, he probably should have went in the mid-4th round. Does anyone know how to text message Chris ? I have another trade for him. (And can't get to the phone at the moment). Pick #58 and #82 for Pick #67 and #71 |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 21st, 2005, 11:01am Not sure how to do that text-messaging stuff, JYJ. :-[ Sorry. ... How about some quick Round 4 analysis? Best Value Pick - WR Hines Ward at 4.05 With Burress in NY, Ward will again be the clear-cut go-to guy. This was a no-brainer. Ward is good for 1,100 to 1,350 yards and 7 to 12 touchdowns receiving. Those are nice windows! Worth Pick Value-wise - (Where to start...?) WR Jerry Porter at 4.09 This guy may not even catch for 900 yards and 3 touchdowns with Moss, Curry and Gabriel (and Johnson) in town. He's surely an NFL talent, though not yet really realized, but will he ever be the fantasy talent we all expected him to be? That's a HUGE question... NOT to be addressed in the fourth round. Other picks I particularly liked - TE Antonio Gates at 4.01 (could end up being the best fantasy tight end this year), WR Steve Smith (definitely the next wideout on the list after Ward) Just a few of the MANY other picks I do not like - QB Kerry Collins at 4.03 (could have been waited on even though I do like his upswing this year), RB Ronnie Brown at 4.07 (someone please wake FFX up... this guy is a TOTAL dice-roll right now; FFX is already touting how good he'll be as trade bait week 5; call me crazy, but my crystal ball don't work that well), RB Larry Johnson at 4.11 (another purported league-ender by FFX... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] he's already hand-cuffing in the fourth round... 'nuff said). ... Those three are just the worst of the worst! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 21st, 2005, 12:51pm Just to give you guys a heads-up, it's Chris's turn, and obviously he's in the middle of a plane trip. I left a message on his cell phone, so if he has a chance to call me back, I will try to make his next pick(s) for him to keep things moving along. RC :^) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 21st, 2005, 1:44pm Not to pile it on, but I will be on my way back to DC sometime fairly soon... this afternoon/evening. You do have my cell phone number, though, RC. ... This pick right now is TOTALLY critical. There is NO way I am submitting a pre-draft list for this pick. I haven't really held us up much, anyway, so... [smiley=shrug.gif] Hopefully, you guys will get it back to me soon. [smiley=fingerscrossed.gif] And, just real fast,... Donald Driver at 6.01... Are you kiddin' me? Yuck! :P |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 21st, 2005, 2:31pm you better call him, Junkyard! I think he is up! Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by MoSneakyFord on Jun 21st, 2005, 2:53pm on 06/21/05 at 13:44:58, StegRock wrote:
Driver was the #10 WR last year, under our scoring system. Favre has also thrown around 30TDs each of the last 4 years. Has something changed in GB that I don't know about? Other than Walker's contract talks going nowhere. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 21st, 2005, 3:16pm Steg, you are up if you are still around. If you don't make a pick in 1 hour, I'll give you a buzz. RC :^) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 21st, 2005, 4:35pm on 06/21/05 at 14:53:55, MoSneakyFord wrote:
Fair enough! I think he got a boost last year when Walker was dinged up. Bottom line, though, I just don't like his upswing... I don't think he has any. He is clearly the #2 on that team playing across from a BIG-time up-and-comer. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 21st, 2005, 6:12pm Lets all get online at the same dang time! This is slow!!!!!! Hey, if anyone wants Ronnie Brown, my asking price is a Boldin type player and some. I would have taken Boldin there so I would want more. Ronnie Brown is going to be a good #2 fantasy running back, wait and see, fellas! Act now before his price goes up! Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 21st, 2005, 6:52pm Well, Smitty, this is not going to mesh with your request. Sorry. :-[ We're headin' back to DC now [smiley=cruisin.gif] in the new FantasyFootballer.com mobile (details and pics to follow in a day or so on "the Sidelines"), [smiley=wiseguy.gif] will be on the road for at least 3 and a 1/2 hours. RC's got my cell just in case, but I doubt things will get back around to me soon or maybe not even tonight at all. [smiley=wavinbye.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 21st, 2005, 11:27pm Dan Grogan must be a mind reader. Each of his selections (that proceed mine) is the pick of a player I had highest priority for. 2.06 RB AGreen GB - Grogan 2.08 RB Martin NYJ - Grumblings 4.06 QB Bulger ATL - Grogan 4.08 RB CBrown TEN - Grumblings 6.06 TE Heap TEN - Grogan 6.08 WR Bennett TEN - Grumblings In each case, My target was a Grogan selection. sigh. TC |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 21st, 2005, 11:53pm Don't you hate when that happens? It always seems like someone takes your guy!!! Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by KillerKingSting on Jun 22nd, 2005, 12:47am on 06/21/05 at 14:53:55, MoSneakyFord wrote:
Well actually, Besides from Farve BEEing a year older, he lost his best 2 offensive linemen this season - 2 all-pro guards flew the coupe - as is coming up in my NEW GRIDIRON ARTICLE ;D To know one's Offensive line is to know one's offensive potential. [smiley=bow.gif] GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Steg-O-Mite Sandwich Maker! He will BEE the BREAD that smashes you guys like salomi!!!!!!! Like out-dated lunch-meat!!! Like a cheap celphane-wrapped hamboner. Like a crusty bad smellin chunk of liverwurst! Ooooh the PAIN you guys must BEE in! And he'll display you at a senior citizens discount! 50% off the cafeteria-made fantasy football squirt-of-expert-got-hurt submarino vienna sausage weeno sandwich topped with sauce-of-loss & smushrooms of the DoomBroom that will sweep your hopes and dreams of ever winning the title of the X-Pert Champiosnhip!!!!!!!!! Thats our GridIron StegRock! GOoooooooooooooooooooooo Steg-O-Matic Football Fanantic Shockingly Dramatic WIN for the GRID babe-bee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by MoSneakyFord on Jun 22nd, 2005, 12:49am Umm, the 1pt per reception rule change is still pending? Changing the rules after the draft has started is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Seriously, I think people have been picking with the current rules in mind. At least, I know I have been. I can think of at least 2 of my picks that would have been different, if we got 1pt per reception. I'm not arguing this because I think my team will suffer if the change goes through. In fact, it would probably help my team more than it would hurt it. However, changing the rules at round 7 really ruins the integrity of the whole draft, imo. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 22nd, 2005, 1:05am Hey All... got comp access in FL finally... I'm going to have an AOL dial up for a while so that WILL suck. But I'll do my best to check from time to time. Also always 8187207186 if you need me. THANK YOU SO MUCH RC for calling me multiple times today. Sorry for any delays I caused... Mo... I am pretty sure that the poll is over it's just that it needs to be taken down.... I like my choices.. I had to grab another RB and I just like Suggs' potential upside better. I don't see Duce with a chance at top 15 but Suggs could if things play out correctly... He's certainly the most talented of the CLE RBs... Branch I like a lot. I've given in a little bit to his rising stock this year. Not due to an MVP performance in the SB but just watchign the playoffs. I just like what I'm seeing... TJ is a guy that I think I'm reaching for. But I really like his potential. The final 8 weeks of the season were hard to overlook, and I think with the contract they'll make an effort to get him the ball. All and all I like that I have had 8 picks in 6 rds... It let me reach for Collins and TJ a little, but they're 2 guys that I personally really think could be fantasy studs in 2005. Note... I'm in trading withdrawl... Help me please.... AOL IM Basler312 Later Chris Rotoworld.com <--- You future champion.... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 22nd, 2005, 1:12am Hey Mo, I see your point, but it wouldn't be fair to just drop the issue because two teams haven't responded. Like I mentioned to you, odds are it will be rejected, because both remaining teams will have to vote 'yes' at this point. In response to your concern (the proposal came up before the draft started), if both teams do vote 'yes', we can poll the league again to ask if a post-draft rule change is acceptable. Does that sound fair ? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 22nd, 2005, 1:19am Look, I voted "yes" on the "receptions" thing, but at this point it has to be canned. You can't go even just adjusting rules once the season, i.e. draft, has begun. The two guys who did not vote in time/on time forfeit their votes. They should be considered (automatic) abstentions at this point. ... Thanks, KKS, for a little home-team love!!! [smiley=bow.gif] ... ;) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 22nd, 2005, 1:26am One more 'No' vote, and it gets canned, I assure you. I will actively pester the remaining teams into responding. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by rotoworldchris on Jun 22nd, 2005, 1:35am I thought both votes "yes" would still make it a 5 yes 5 no 2 whatever... that's a tie and tie = no right? [offtopic] [/offtopic] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 22nd, 2005, 1:44am Hey Chris, Actually, the third option is also a 'Yes'. So it's really a 5-5 tie at the moment. I just sent those guys an email, and if they share the sentiment here (Mo, Steg and you) that a post-draft rule change is illegitimate, then it's a moot point. RC :^) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 22nd, 2005, 1:47am on 06/22/05 at 01:44:49, junkyardjake wrote:
Consider me mootable, too. I can not accept a major rule change at this point of the draft. No can do, |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 22nd, 2005, 2:12am Quote:
OK, we have Mo, Steg, Chris, TC (and me), who don't want a rule change after the draft. One more informal complaint, and the post-draft rule change proposition gets swiftly shit-canned regardless of what those guys say. btw, TC, thanks for the tip on the decimal yardage scoring. When you get a chance, let me know if everything looks correct. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 22nd, 2005, 2:21am on 06/22/05 at 02:12:04, junkyardjake wrote:
Good job. Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 22nd, 2005, 3:36am I agree, changing rules is a "no way" at this point, I agree with TC and everyone. Just can't do that, even if i have Holmes and McAllister. Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com Ps, i sent out a trade offer to all but Chris jumped on at as usual. I got his next pick and last two for a swap in my next three starting in the 10th. I'll trade up almost every time, I am a believer and getting who you want at the cost of some depth. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by sexydexy on Jun 22nd, 2005, 5:33am Just took a look at this thread. Can't help but wonder a few things... First, why on God's Green Earth would someone in an expert league take 4 RBs in the first 4 rounds? Unless it's a keeper/dynasty and I'm just missing something. Seems like a rookie mistake. Favre should be fine. He won't miss his guards as much as he would miss his tackles. Ahman Green, on the other hand.... Rules changes after the draft are definitely questionable, too. Glad to see you guys resolved that easily. Now, if you could just get that message to all the league commissioners here on this site! [smiley=alcoholic.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by KillerKingSting on Jun 22nd, 2005, 7:17am on 06/22/05 at 05:33:14, sexydexy wrote:
One of those NFC Northern All-Star Defensive Tackles (Kevin Williams, Pat Williams, Sean Rogers, Tank Williams, etc etc) shoots the gap on those inexperienced Packer-Guard replacements and knocks the SHIT outta Stiff-hipped Farve, you'll see Aaron Rodgers alot ealrier than you would've imagined. By the way Dex, with such an expert analysis commentary you brought to the table ::), what makes you think that A.Green's performance taking a hit won't affect Farve's performance? Doesn't PRO-FOOTBALL work that way? Passing game feeds off the running game? And vice versa? Being ABLE to RUN the ball keeps defensive linemen honest and also stunts defensive coordinators from blitzing all the time. Oh sorry, maybe you just didn't take the time to put it "all" out there ;) Also, what a sorry "dig" you took at the rule changing deal and in reference to ALL the league's commissioners on this web site. Absolutely no class whatsoever. [smiley=no.gif] And no compassion whatsoever. [smiley=deadhorse.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by sexydexy on Jun 22nd, 2005, 7:26am Hey, you take out of that comment what you wanted to. It's a good message to give to any commish and since we're on this site...might be a good piece of advice. Apparently, you can't read. I said, " Favre should be fine. He won't miss his guards as much as he would miss his tackles. Ahman Green, on the other hand.... " I think Green will be more affected than Favre. Green will have trouble running up the middle more than Favre will have trouble finding receivers. And not once did I say that I was a resident expert in my post. So, not to hijack the thread or anything...but get your head outta your ass, buddy and step back to what posts actually say and not what you think they are saying. That said, I'd be interested in seeing how the rest of this draft turns out. Especially wanna see if TC's gambles pay off. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 22nd, 2005, 7:57am [offtopic]PLEASE, no hijacking of the thread... [smiley=nownow.gif] except for sending Steg those home-team good vibes... like KKS had been doing. [smiley=thumbsup.gif][/offtopic] IMPORTANT: What's up with drafting Ricky Williams? He is not on the list of available players to pick up, but I am seriously contemplating taking him with my pick right now... (since Lelie, my next pick, was just taken). >:( ... [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 22nd, 2005, 8:34am IF RB RWilliams is considered an active player.. and he soon may be, you could select a truly dead player -and- the commish can substitute the junk player for Williams (Which some people would see as very equal). Or.. the commish can allow the draft list to include non-roster player - which is a headache for owners to filter. So if you want RWilliams.. draft the Cowboys TE3. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 22nd, 2005, 8:44am Hey Steg, Got your message, actually there is some obscure setting that allows Ricky Williams to magically appear. I found this on the MyFantasyLeague message boards: http://sidelineleagues.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7684&hl=williams I change the setting, so Williams should now appear on the draft list. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 22nd, 2005, 8:45am on 06/22/05 at 08:34:48, TC wrote:
Fair enough... Is that what I should do if Williams is who I am to go with here, Commish? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 22nd, 2005, 8:46am on 06/22/05 at 08:44:42, junkyardjake wrote:
Gotchya! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 22nd, 2005, 9:00am Well, I did it... I drank the Kool-Aid!!! [smiley=nervous.gif] Thoughts??? [smiley=scared.gif] ... Am I ... [smiley=bonghit.gif]??? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 22nd, 2005, 2:18pm Guys, I was off, BUT UP (unnecessarily based on my personal life) EARLY this morning, and like jackin' off all day today knowing my pick(s) was (were) coming up soon. We have been stuck on the Geeks for a couple hours now (after we really had things rolling, which is disappointing). Anyway, my wife and I have a dinner date tonight. We are going out at 4:15. I'm letting you all know now at 2:15 so that maybe we can get this guy's pick in and I can step up. I am NOT keen on (and somewhat insulted by) being potentially put in the position of further holding things up or having to submit a pre-draft list, which I do NOT want to do because this is an "experts" ::) league and I want to give you guys my best which includes up-to-the-moment reactions, moreover, when I've sat around all day waiting for one pick to be made. We will be out from 4:15 until possibly about 10:00. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 22nd, 2005, 2:25pm Steg, you are up again. Quote:
That's hard to say, on one hand , Williams is still in his prime, and would be a 1st rounder if Miami didn't have Brown. On the other hand, I think you may have reached a little early, but not unreasonbly so. Sometimes you have to take those calculated risks, that one could pay off in a huge way when Williams gets back into playing shape. Ricky is a proven talent, and Brown is an impressive raw talent, it's not completely clear what will happen in Miami, or if Williams gets traded to a better situation. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 22nd, 2005, 2:34pm Yea, figures... :-/ guy finally picks while I am typing my post above. Anyway,... on 06/22/05 at 14:25:27, junkyardjake wrote:
That's the thing. I think he is playing somewhere else come Week 5,... perhaps, San Fran, Cleveland, Tennessee, Jacksonville (though I hope not having Taylor, but that was part of my thinking) [smiley=nervous.gif] or elsewhere. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by Philly on Jun 22nd, 2005, 4:01pm on 06/22/05 at 14:34:47, StegRock wrote:
It's hard to determine his value right now. We all know that he's going to sit out the first 1/4 of the season with the drug suspension. It's also necessary to look at his salary. I think his contract calls for a $3+ million salary this year - the Fins don't have that much room under the cap (I think they'll be in the neighborhood of $1 million under after the rooks are signed). So RW will either have to restructure his contract (substantially) or get traded. Is RW (and, more importantly, Leigh Steinbergh) willing to take a significant pay cut (league minimum for his years of service is $540k)? Then you need to look at the other teams who need RBs and would be willing to take a look at him. What are their salary cap numbers? So, at this point in the off-season, I'd be hesitant to take a shot on Williams earlyish. As we get into camp and pre-season we may have a better idea what his salary situation is. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 23rd, 2005, 1:39am So, as I've said from the beginning, Ronnie Brown is on the block, fellas. I want an excellent wide wr and possibly another player. If you guys have an offer, shoot it my way! As of right now, no one has better runners than I do with: Priest Holmes, Deuce McAllister, Ronnie Brown, and Larry Johnson. My wrs are, well, what they are. One guy. That will all change with Ronnie Brown, the question is do you guys want to pay a decent price in offering me a better wr than was available when I drafted him, or do you want to wait until he proves to be the next stud of this league and he costs an arm and a leg? It is up to you guys? ======================================= Who do you guys think has the best team (not including yours)? ======================================= I like Huddle Geeks squad (if i had to say one) Green, Trent KCC QB McGahee, Willis BUF RB Portis, Clinton WAS RB Staley, Duce PIT RB Clayton, Michael TBB WR Kennison, Eddie KCC WR Muhammad, Muhsin CHI WR Wayne, Reggie IND WR Johnson, Eric SFO TE ==== Note: ==== The team above actually looks a lot like the team I just drafted in our Annual Xpert league... Steg, TC, all you guys, let me know what you think of these teams... RC (junkyardjake.com) is in this league as well with a bunch of other great sites like FootballGuys.com, FantasyFootball.com, FantasySharks.com, FFToolbox.com and FantasyTailgate.com. I'd love to hear your thoughts, Steg and TC and even Chris from Roto, let me hear your thoughts too. ============= Here are the results: ============= http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com/2k5expertleague.html There are a lot of even teams in our league here, should be a fun year! Smitty Fantasyfootballxtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 23rd, 2005, 1:44am Oh, here are the rosters and commentaries as well FantasyFootballXtreme.com's Annual 2K5 Expert League (hosted with the help of Junkyardjake.com) >>> Draft Results: http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com/2k5expertleague.html >>> Rosters: http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com/2k5expertrosters.html >>> Commentaries: http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com/2k5expertcomments.html |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 23rd, 2005, 2:50am I apologize for the delay tonight (especially Mo), but it's all y'alls fault anyway. I was ready to pick at about 10pm, and then noticed every single pick I was targeting at this point was taken (Carolina defense, Charles Rogers, Randy McMichael, Lee Evans and Santana Moss). Then I had to finish some other stuff before thinking about it again. I'll get my next 2 after Mo's picks in quickly. All in all, we cranked out a bunch of picks today, good job ! (except for me). :-[ |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 23rd, 2005, 2:59am Smitty, really great job on the first league summary, looks terrific ! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by KillerKingSting on Jun 23rd, 2005, 3:56am on 06/22/05 at 09:00:22, StegRock wrote:
As many have said, it is way too early to be able to accurately predict what RW will do this season. There are 2 sides of looking at this if you ask me. #1 = Miami now has a boat load of RBs on their roster that can contribute : Kay-Jay, RW, Ronnie B. and even L.Gordon whose future with the dolhpins right now is questionable as well AND not too mention, their other back up RBs that might shave some third down touches off of Miami's main RB - whoever - if ever - that may be. #2 = Saban is a stand up guy and will get the best outta RW, regardless if it is through trade and/or on the field. Ricky didn't come back to sit on the bench all year long AND, he is an undeniable talent that WILL BEE used. Looking at it from the second perspective, Ricky will BEE productive this year - and especially IF the plan is to TRADE him for next year - Saban will have to showcase his talents in order to get maximum asking price for such an enigma with risky character issues. I'm with the #2 perspective. One way or another, Ricky will BEE productive THIS year and I think it is a super-solid and safe pick as long as you aren't counting on the 1st four weeks for production. Nice going Steg!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by sexydexy on Jun 23rd, 2005, 8:19am Just a suggestion but maybe you guys should switch to IDPs next year. Big gamble on RW, Steg. He's only 195 right now so he'd need to bulk up to get his former self back. Shouldn't be too hard in Miami but he's also got Ronnie Brown and drugs to contend with. I don't like his odds. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2005, 1:22pm on 06/23/05 at 03:56:28, KillerKingSting wrote:
I vote for this post (as opposed to the one following it). ;) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 23rd, 2005, 1:24pm FFX Smitty, I'll try my best to get you some sort of analysis this weekend, brother. But, Smit, I am only going to do an analysis for our league. I am not going to (have time to) analyze that other one. Sorry! :-[ - Steg |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by sexydexy on Jun 24th, 2005, 8:38am I just took a look at the rosters so far on the main league site and I would have to say that 3 teams, in my opinion seem to be the frontrunners so far. HuddleGeeks FantasyFootballer 411FantasyFootball Probably in that order. All have very solid teams so far although each, obviously have their own weaknesses. I think these guys have the strongest chance at the current junction. But as they say...that's why you play the game. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 24th, 2005, 1:02pm I just took Philly's boy (of sorts) with my last pick... and I am REAL happy about it!!! [smiley=dancin.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 25th, 2005, 10:34am Actually, my 11th and 12th round picks were Philly's boyz!!! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 26th, 2005, 7:24am Is it week 1 yet? Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com Ps, I'm going to have draft commentary on our site, and a link to this message board once we FINALLY finish the draft. The commentary can be found here: http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com/2005xtremejunkyard.html |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 27th, 2005, 8:24am Something is odd here. You had better hope that it isn't yet week 1, friend. Is Smithy and FantasyFootballXtreme actually promoting the idea of not drafting a full roster of FF starters? In draft after draft, Smithy lacks ~any~ PKs and DTs (plus here he even waited until the 16th round to claim his only TE). They are welcome to build their roster however they choose. Yet ignoring positive FF position starters for backup RBs and longshot WRs seems very risky and it's not an idea that most experianced FFLers promote. Because many leagues wait until after the season begins to allow waiver claims, the rest of us assumed this league would also follow that path. Then again, I also assumed that teams were required to draft a complete starting lineup. I would like to request that commissioner JunkyardJake not allow the league any waiver options prior to the season kickoff. Had I known we were going to be permitted early waivers, I may have gambled my DT2 pick (MIA) for WRs Curtis STL or ADavis CLE - players I target for limited 2004 success. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 27th, 2005, 12:19pm on 06/27/05 at 08:24:41, TC wrote:
I AGREE 100% (not for the same exact reasons, but I agree)! No players should be able to be picked up (or dropped) until Week 1's transactions. ... If not, there should be (an) order (literally speaking) to it. And, if that is the case, what will that order be and how will it be determined? If it is first come first serve, THAT'S F'd UP!!! Ultimately, to avoid the quagmire, it ought to be avoided by not allowing players to be picked up (or dropped) until Week 1's transactions. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by MoSneakyFord on Jun 27th, 2005, 12:55pm well, these are things that really need to be decided before the draft. However we decide to operate the waiver wire, we really need to give those guys a chance to get their rosters in shape. Obviously, they assumed they would have a chance to pick up a defense and a kicker before opening day. So it's not really fair now to make them play the first game without a kicker or defense. However, it's also not fair to allow them to sit on sleepers all through camp, if the rest of the teams cannot. The best solution may be to freeze waiver transactions until opening day, but allow any team to make transactions for the next few days, so they can get their team the way they want, before the wire gets locked. That way everyone will be on equal footing on opening day. Make sense? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by Philly on Jun 27th, 2005, 1:11pm I did a quick perusal of the rosters this morning and came to the following conclusions... All homerism aside, I think FantasyFootballer.com had the best draft. There's balance at QB, RB, and WR. Sure, Big Ben isn't a fantasy powerhouse, but he's a reliable enough bye-week or short-term injury fill-in. Also, Fred Taylor and Ricky Williams are gambles at this point, but have big upsides and Steg didn't hurt himself by drafting them where he did. All in all, I think that he got value with nearly every pick and has the most complete roster. Another roster I really like is AskTheCommish. He needs one of his rookie backs to come through, but LT2 should pick up any slack. Nice roster top to bottom! HuddleGeeks has a very balanced squad too. Trent Green, Portis/McGahee, Clayton/Muhammad/Wayne, Wiggins, Reed, Buffalo is a very formidable starting lineup. FFXtreme had one of the more interesting drafts I've ever seen. No kickers or defensive units? Sure, Priest and Deuce make a fantastic 1-2 punch, and Carson Palmer has great potential but there's nothing else. A fourth round pick used on a handcuff! He'll need a crystal ball to know which receivers to start each week. This is a group that will be wildly inconsistent with big swings in performance. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 27th, 2005, 1:14pm on 06/27/05 at 12:55:11, MoSneakyFord wrote:
I can agree to that. It would solve this minor problem. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 27th, 2005, 3:02pm Quote:
I agree to the agreement on that. Really, the specific waiver date was not discussed. Mo, I think you have suggested the most fair solution...allow waivers in the next week, and then lock it down until the season begins. This eliminates the advantage of keeping backups on your roster that you normally would not have drafted. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 27th, 2005, 3:47pm on 06/27/05 at 12:19:05, StegRock wrote:
Even though it is after the fact (evidently), I would like to clarify what I meant. Contrary to TC (as intimated by my post), I was working under the impression that there would be Week 1 transactions allowed (what it looks like we are going to end up doing... it's just logical), i.e. one wave of waiver-wire/free-agent pick-ups going into Week 1, and, as such dudes would be able to draft however they want, i.e. incomplete rosters with regards to positions... So, yes, Mo's solution is the best (I personally don't know how you all would work it any other way... other than some cheesy-ass first-come-first-serve BS). BUT, how is the Week 1 waiver wire/Week 1 free-agency going to work??? Is it going to be one wave of selections??? And, will it go for 1 or 2 or 3 or how many rounds??? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 28th, 2005, 2:04am I'm good with getting my Kicker and Def now, if that is how you guys want to run the league, but I can tell you right now i was told this was fine so to make me not be able to pick up a kicker in Def would be changing the rules after the fact. RC said it was fine to do what i did, before i did it i might add, so it would be kind of unfair to now tell me i can't drop and pick up a kicker and def. And we still have a long ways before the season, no crystal ball will be needed for my wrs as I will getting one by trade. And, TC, I am a very experienced fantasy player. You can check out any of my other expert leagues and my team is very very well rounded. I was having fun with the 'trade option', which is normally not allowed in the keeper leagues i run or do (pick order), so i was having fun with it and trying a strategy I have never used before, which is getting runners to get more wrs than i could have got with those picks. I'll be the first to say it is strange, but it in no way is my normal style... like i said, go view my drafts and we are in the middle of another Expert Draft.... My team so far Palmer Holmes/LJ Kevin Jones Foster Torry Holt Fitzgerald still in the 7th round... I do quite well in keeper leagues, this is a different than normal approach... I hope i get the wrs i need using Brown when everyone's runners are hurt or not looking like the starters they were to be. We shall see. Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 28th, 2005, 2:06am "team is very well rounded" meaning in my other expert leagues, not in this one :) like i said, it is a strange way to draft, I am the first to say.... |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 28th, 2005, 2:11am And i meant "Expert Leagues" not "Keeper Leagues" above, lol, man im tired and can't type tonight. RC, let me know what we're doing about Ks and DEFs. I just wish we wouldn't change the rules after the draft, as i was told it was fine to do what i did and was told i can pick up through the waiver all the way up to week 1. No hard feelings, either way, I am an easy to deal with owner! Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jun 28th, 2005, 2:15am on 06/28/05 at 02:04:18, FFXtreme wrote:
Oh. If you were told by the commish prior to drafting that you'd be able to claim players later, then by all means do so. The fault seems to lie in him not telling everyone the calendar we are following. My 'rant' was not directed toward you.. but the unclear rules. on 06/28/05 at 02:04:18, FFXtreme wrote:
I believe you. I do. There is a difference between a showcase league that broadcast their results to promote their member's services and a Let's-Get-Together-And-Have-Fun gathering of quality FFers. This seems to be the later, so I'll loosen up on my thinking. Fair enough. Please do not think that I was being negative towards your FF abilities. I could easily see from just a few weeks of overlapping with you that you are an asset to the group. I am looking forward to sharing the season with you. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 28th, 2005, 2:45am No worries, TC, I'm an easy going guy! I am just having too much fun trading in this league... again, i would never recommend this to my subscribers, it is on a trial run still! :) We will see if i overestimated the trade market come week 1. And again, rule change after the draft or not, id be happy to release two guys and get a kicker and def, but feel i should be allowed at least that since i was told differently than you were. And, let me just say RC has done a GREAT JOB so no worries about mixed signals, RC, I aint mad and no one else is. Good work |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 28th, 2005, 10:53am Quote:
There was no formal disscussion on the waiver date. Smitty, you had posed a question on the messenger about picking up a kicker and defense, and I responded that you would have to go through the waiver process. But outside of that we never discussed when the waiver process would start in relation to the start of the season. The most fair solution was proposed by Mo Sneaky, where there will be a short interval coming up (let's say starting Saturday, I will send out a reminder) that will last one week, then it will be shut down. Leading into the season, I like Steg's suggestion: Quote:
Where waivers would again be allowed for a brief period preceding week 1. Does this sound like a good plan ? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2005, 11:44am If there is going to be a waiver round right prior to Week 1, we do not need one starting this Saturday. It is unnecessarily redundant. We only need one (wave of) waiver round(s) going into the season. ... In any event, in what order will the preseason waiver round(s) be conducted (whenever or however many there are)? Will it be 2 rounds following the draft order? ... Also, I am getting a kick out of all the hedging going on already: "This is just a fun 'experts' league," "In my other (real) leagues, I draft 'more conventionally'," ... "Blah, blah, blah!" ::) [smiley=hellyeafunny.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=LMFAO.gif] [smiley=sinister.gif] [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] You guys hedge all you want... I plan on taking this thing... BIG-time! [smiley=cantcatch.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 28th, 2005, 12:02pm RC, I did ask you if i could pick up a kicker and def later, specifically, and your response was exactly this: "or you could just pick up a #uc#ing kicker and Def now! Remember? I thought that would remind you :) You did tell me that i could not only use the waiver, i asked you exactly that, can i wait, right before my round 14 started. I don't care, i just want everyone to know i was specific. Smitty FantasyFootballXtreme.com |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Jun 28th, 2005, 12:04pm Ps, Chris from Roto, RC from Junkyardjake.com and myself, Smitty from FantasyFootballXtreme.com are in the middle of another Expert Draft. Would love to hear some feedback on our teams (and my normal strategy). This is a flex league, we start 1qb, 2rb, 1flex, 2wr, 1te, 1k, 1def... flex can be te, rb or wr. http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2005/options?L=66875&O=17 Who are the best teams? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jun 28th, 2005, 12:06pm Quote:
Smitty did the same exact thing in our first experts league, where he over-drafted RB's, and did not pick a defense or kicker. I don't agree with the strategy, but of all the strategies I've heard in the last week or so, it's definitely one of them. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jun 28th, 2005, 2:58pm Philster, thanks for the brief analysis... I tend to agree with your conclusions... [smiley=awwgee.gif] For all of you FantasyFootballer.com guys, here is our current roster: Plummer, Jake DEN QB Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB Barber, Tiki NYG RB Fason, Ciatrick MIN RB James, Edgerrin IND RB Taylor, Fred JAC RB Williams, Ricky (ex-mia) FA RB Edwards, Braylon CLE WR Horn, Joe NOS WR Smith, Jimmy JAC WR Ward, Hines PIT WR Williams, Mike DET WR McMichael, Randy MIA TE Smith, L.J. PHI TE Brown, Josh SEA PK Redskins, Washington WAS Def ;D |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jul 5th, 2005, 12:22pm Hows about a little team rankings? JYJ's over on his site is solid analysis, BUT very non-committal as to whose team looks the best and whose the worst. I'll get something up over here eventually (read, when I can come up for air). But, what about FFX Smitty? I thought he was putting up analysis or something. This league's page over on his site is "crickets". [smiley=shrug.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jul 5th, 2005, 1:20pm Quote:
That's a good idea. I'll try to come up with a power ranking formula of some sort. (Probably using average draft ranking and consensus rankings, and taking the difference from the actual draft spots to get an aggregate 'score' of some sort). |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jul 5th, 2005, 3:48pm on 07/05/05 at 13:20:54, junkyardjake wrote:
That's cool, RC! It's something. But, really, what I want is some raw FF brainpower-generated commentary... some straight-up original thought/opining. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jul 5th, 2005, 4:20pm Team ranking? Hmm.. do you mean someone decides in July if McAllister or Portis was the better FF selection? Wins and losses will rank the teams. The rest is 'busy work' that few care about. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jul 5th, 2005, 4:28pm Quote:
I agree, that is the ideal, but to do that correctly (and objectively) I think you need to address strength of schedule, offensive line changes, offensive and defensive system changes, free agent signings, new draftees etc.... You know, the kind of stuff you incorporate into your original rankings. I just wanted to keep it as innocuous as possible, I'll save my real opinions for my rankings and other formats. But for now, have you heard how great Eric Shelton and Maurice Morris are going to be this year ? (i.e. Smitty's generous trade offers) ::) Really, those guys may turn out to be real finds, but that's the kind of speculation that's kind of fruitless until the preseason games start. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Jul 5th, 2005, 4:32pm Quote:
I agree, that's the kind of issue that is really just opinion at this point. But, I do think you can calculate an objective and interesting power-ranking by comparing each of the picks to ADP and consensus rankings for each team. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jul 5th, 2005, 5:06pm on 07/05/05 at 16:20:23, TC wrote:
Eh... You say, "Busy work that few care about;" I say, "Fun, and who the fuck cares about who else cares." Of course, the season will determine the season. ... You're just a party-pooper (and based on your bet-hedging above, I guess, insecure about your squad). [smiley=tonguin.gif] ... [smiley=cantcatch.gif] on 07/05/05 at 16:28:20, junkyardjake wrote:
Ehhhh, poo... That's bologna... and balony! ;) There is analysis and there is over-analysis... That sounds like over-analysis, the kind that makes fantasy football (seem like) rocket science. Quote:
I know... ::) ... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jul 10th, 2005, 10:43pm on 06/28/05 at 02:15:07, TC wrote:
In reply to your e-mail, TC, this is the implicit, embedded bet-hedging of sorts to which I was referring. ;) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by TC on Jul 10th, 2005, 11:51pm on 07/10/05 at 22:43:00, StegRock wrote:
Hedging? Perhaps I am misunderstood... I would welcome a semi-friendly one-on-one wager with you. My teams success vs. yours. Contact me and we'll work out the deatails - a NFL ball cap or several site t-shirts or something. Fair enough? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Jul 11th, 2005, 12:13am Eh... I ultimately don't need to "make my statement" by making a public wager. The thrill of victory is enough for me. ;) I just noticed what you wrote and extrapolated it out to one of its natural, logical ends. [smiley=shrug.gif] ... [smiley=threed.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by KillerKingSting on Jul 11th, 2005, 8:43am on 06/28/05 at 14:58:53, StegRock wrote:
The Ricky Williams pick isn't looking like such a "reach" right now. Hes up to 215 lbs - gained 20 lbs of muscle while we were all talking about his weight at 195 ::) ;D, AND, I hear that Ronnie Brown isn't going to be in camp on time, therefore, Ricky getting most of the reps for now - sure plays into his hands - NICE PICK! if I may say so myself, once again! ;D |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by KillerKingSting on Aug 30th, 2005, 4:05am on 06/22/05 at 05:33:14, sexydexy wrote:
Albeit preseason, Farve's last game, didn't look so well - and the 3rd preseason game is the one that is semi-used to gauge an NFL team's intro into the regular seasoning. You can't just replace 2 all-pro/all-star/all-stud guards like THAT offensive line lost. It will hurt Farve as well. And you right! Its already killing the running game. another shameless advertisement for the new & upcoming GridIron article called "Grunt-Ball" coming to a Fantasy footballer newsstans near you!!!!! Hail to all IOLPs babe-bee!!!! (individual offensive line players) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 3rd, 2005, 2:30am Quote:
So, exactly how does this first wave of "orderly" free-agency work? Am I to understand that the deadline to have our waiver request lists in is September 6th by 5:00 p.m. (EST)? And, how exactly do we go about submitting them? Thank you. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Sep 4th, 2005, 11:17am Quote:
Yes that is correct, the waiver choices need to be submitted by 9/6 at 5pm. Here's the link if you need it (I know it's been a few months): http://football24.myfantasyleague.com/2005/home/87061 Just go to the 'Owners' menu, then click on 'Waivers', and you can select up to 8 rounds (I think, well, hopefully noone needs to do that anyway). :) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Sep 9th, 2005, 4:12am Smitty checking in! What a game for Randy, Brady, Branch and Collins. Can't wait for Sunday, fellas, let the trash talking begin! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 10th, 2005, 2:53pm Hey, Smit! Good luck, bro... [smiley=shamrock.gif] ... You NEED it!!! ;) ... Anyway, what's up with win-loss records already being displayed in the standings on the league main page? That's weak. [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] I mean... from a technical [smiley=steg.gif] standpoint I understand why that would be happening. BUT, that "connection" should just be turned off until the games are complete. It's ill looking at teams 1-0 and 0-1 based on whether or not, respectively, they had players in Thursday nights kickoff "classic". (My thoughts on the BS of the Thursday night kickooff can be checked out HERE (http://www.fantasyfootballer.com/cgi-bin/theGridiron/YaBB.cgi?board=58;action=display;num=1126251484), by the way.) I also hope we don't have standings, which are featured on our main page, mind you, flippin' and floppin' around like fish out of water on Sunday. That would just be aesthetically unpleasing. ... So, in any event, can we get this fixed/disabused??? [smiley=annoyed.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by Callie on Sep 10th, 2005, 4:50pm Two of my leagues play on MFL, Steg, and they do the same running standings thing when there are early games like that. Not necessarily a big distraction, and you can see what everyone has to do to get to a certain rank. (You can tell which week you're on with a bit of math ;D). The good, if it's the same as my MFL leagues, is that you can keep the page up and get self-refreshing running scoring for all players and teams. Sometimes is gets a bit behind, but it's fun. :D |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 11th, 2005, 8:35pm Yea, well, with just our TE's yet to go, I kicked the crap out of our good friend here, JYJ, and it still indicates that he won!!! Cheese-ass system!!! [smiley=annoyed.gif] ... ;) ... Really, though,... if that were my site, that would be an unacceptable glitch that would not last long. :-/ |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by Callie on Sep 11th, 2005, 8:52pm Try this, Steg: Home page. At center top, where it says "Reports" and has an arrow for a drop-down list, click the arrow to drop it down. Scroll down to "League," and select "Live Scoring Summary," which is like a selection in an outline beneath "League." Click on "Go," which is up by the selection box, which should now say "Live Scoring Summary." This is the page you can keep up to automatically refresh during the games. Hope this gets it for ya! :) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 11th, 2005, 8:58pm I'll do that, for sure, Callie, BUT my point is that I want the "Standings" which are featured on the home page of the league site to be correct. EDIT: I just went to do that, Callie, and once I did, I realized that's exactly what I had done to know that I plundered Jake. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by Callie on Sep 11th, 2005, 8:59pm I've never seen the MFL league home pages automatically refresh during the games. I don't think it does. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 11th, 2005, 10:04pm M point is that the standings pages should not indicate ANY records until the weeks are COMPLETE... like the way "real" standings work!!! That's all. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by Callie on Sep 11th, 2005, 10:17pm I just took a quick look at your league and one of mine during halftime. Looks like all the wins have Raiders or Patriots. The software probably got juked by the Thursday game. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Sep 12th, 2005, 5:54am Good game Steg, Willie Parker was a great pickup. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] (And conversely, what the %$#% was I thinking by picking up William Green.) As far as the standings problem, I'm sure it will be fixed by today or tomorrow, I really have no idea what is going on there. ?.?.? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 12th, 2005, 2:21pm on 09/12/05 at 05:54:32, junkyardjake wrote:
It's not your site, Jake. I wouldn't expect you to and wasn't railing on you (per se,... though I was railing on your team [smiley=tough.gif] ... ;D). I thought that you may know a way around it, but my railing was directed at the "product", which is good overall, but this is a fairly significant and blatant biff. Anyway,... Edit: By the way, the standings are now up-to-date,... finally!!! :P ... [smiley=thumbsup.gif] ... [smiley=cantcatch.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Sep 12th, 2005, 5:44pm Yes, my team was pretty mediocre this week. I plan to make them do extra laps and new drills like chasing my kicker around with those heavy gas-powered weed-whackers this coming week at practice. [smiley=smileytrash.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 14th, 2005, 5:05pm on 09/12/05 at 17:44:11, junkyardjake wrote:
I guess that's one way of describing your ass-whoopin'. [smiley=bawling.gif][smiley=mywhippinboy.gif] Another way might be to point out that you played the HIGHEST-scoring team!!! [smiley=whistle.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Sep 14th, 2005, 5:32pm lol, don't spend too much time counting up your bounty for winning a single game, week-one wonder-boy. By my calculations, what you get for that is worth somewhere between zero and squat [smiley=donut.gif]. Let's see how many left-handed interceptions Jake Plummer can throw for you if you can make it into week 14. (no bonus points are awarded for left-handed interceptions by a right-handed QB, no matter how amusing they are to watch). no, but seriously, nice job, your team is very strong, it should be an interesting season. [smiley=duel.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 18th, 2005, 4:59am Jake (& Smit), I gotta ask... This league is being "hosted" by JunkyardJake.com (and FantasyFootballXtreme.com). Why is it not at all featured on your site (or his; he at least has a link at the bottom of his home page, though)? JYJ, you seem to be the main host (or just the host). For the life of me, and maybe I am 8-) as a [smiley=bat.gif] so please point me in the right direction if that is the case, but I canNOT find a link to "your" Xtreme league anywhere on your home page and, for that matter, anywhere on your site, period (though I haven't looked that hard,... but I don't feel one should have to). What's up with that? It seems like this league (vis-a-vis other "web site owner" challenge leagues) is being run under a rock. I mean... whatever... I just know that the "incentive" behind my finally participating in one of these things (in my third year of running "the Gridiron @FantasyFootballer.com) was to get the word out about my fledgling [smiley=newbie.gif], still fairly unknown site. The lack of linkage to the league site is surely a crimp in that plan. Oh, well... [smiley=shrug.gif] Over and Out, Steg |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Sep 19th, 2005, 1:50am Gonna need the luck, eh? I should climb to first or so with a big game from Deuce! About the league, we keep our subscribers up to date on all of our Expert Leagues. The problem was that we never got any commentary going from the experts, I'll do my best though to direct people here. - Smitty, have fun looking at my back after tomorrow night! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Sep 19th, 2005, 1:51am And this is just JunkyardJakes deal, he runs it. We do update our subscribers through our daily article... they see how we are doing in all our leagues. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Sep 19th, 2005, 4:00am There, Steg. I put a link to this message board (commentaries) under Xtreme Junkyard Brawl Expert League. Our expert leagues are toward the bottom of our home page... http://www.fantasyfootballxtreme.com I wish we all did a write-up on the draft, that would have been nice to promote on all of our sites. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 22nd, 2005, 5:39am First off, thanks for getting on that, FFX! [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] ... [smiley=bow.gif] I see you are sittin' at 2-0 with the ole Stegger [smiley=dog.gif] ... [smiley=hmmmm.gif] ... Anyway, quick question,... why can't I pick up David Akers right now? He's been dropped. Is it that he is unavailable until next week (as he was just dropped this week)? If that's the case, that's fine. BUT, if not, then I want dibs... I just logged in on the league site (as you all can see) and I am posting this message just minutes later. I want PK David Akers if he is available. I drop, in order to acquire him, PK Josh Brown. PLEASE, someone, let me know what's up here??? ?.?.? |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 25th, 2005, 6:28am Tell me this isn't the biggest sucker bet in fantasy football this week... MoSneaky at FantasyFootballer (-0.2) I'm only favored by .2 points. ::) ... [smiley=tough.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by junkyardjake on Sep 25th, 2005, 12:18pm Quote:
Steg, that is correct, any players that are dropped during the 'unrestricted' free agent window are locked until the following week. |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Sep 29th, 2005, 3:37am JYJ, FFX Smit, would you guys stop trading the same players back and forth? [smiley=gimmeabreak.gif] ... ;) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Oct 1st, 2005, 6:46pm If you guys would trade with me, I wouldn't have to keep trading with RC! :-P |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Oct 1st, 2005, 6:50pm You guys ready for the Carson Palmer, Priest Holmes, Larry Johnson and Torry Holt Shows this week? Have fun watching them all! ;D |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Oct 2nd, 2005, 1:35pm on 10/02/05 at 12:53:11, junkyardjake wrote:
Yea, I was kind of screwed with that: a) I just got up about 15 minutes before kickoff, so I did not have time to react, but, in any event, b) I kind of knew I was going to have to just leave him in heck-or-high-water because I did not have anybody else to drop (hell, as it is, I dropped my boyfriend Jake [smiley=ohshit.gif] ... [smiley=bawling.gif] this week and Mike Williams for that matter, neither of whom I wanted to drop). Thank you very much for the thoughtful heads up, in any event, though, R.C. [smiley=bow.gif] And, thanks to Steve Warner (DD) for giving me a buzz this morning alerting me of the situation so I could possibly try to switch him out. [smiley=bow.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Oct 10th, 2005, 3:39am There you go Junkyardjake! I knew a big week was gonna come around for you. Thank god Holmes is back, get ready for the: Palmer, Holmes, T.Bell, Torry Holt, show next week, fellas! 108 w/o Holmes isn't half bad. Smitty Bring it! It is a close race for 2nd in points - FantasyFootballTimes.com, here we come! |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Oct 12th, 2005, 10:35pm on 10/10/05 at 03:39:07, FFXtreme wrote:
Dude,... what are they givin' out ice creams [smiley=letsmakeup.gif] for 2nd in points??? Does anything go by points??? I say we implement a points-based waiver-wire order so as to give your comment there some substance 'cause it's me that's always gettin' the LAST pick in free-agency! ;) Maybe it comes into play as a tie-breaker... That's good to know you got that "cart before the horse" covered... [smiley=joker.gif] I mean this is a head-to-head league, not a cumulative-fantasy-points league. There is a "valid" way to relate cumulative points to how the league unfolds: what matters is NOT your total or mean fantasy points scored and where you rank in that light, but rather where you rank in points week in and week out and the average/mean of that can be a revealing, though still not ultimately mattering, aspect. And, what about that "power ranking"? Where ya stand in that? But,... hey,... you're not even talking about 1st in this meaningless category... Way to set the bar high for your team, bro... [smiley=hanginin.gif] ... [smiley=rollinwithlaughter.gif] Now... let's HEAR it for the league leader... in the STANDINGS... where it matters... and get to some [smiley=clap.gif] and [smiley=worship.gif] and [smiley=moon.gif]:-* and [smiley=gettinridden.gif],... bitches... [smiley=bawling.gif][smiley=mywhippinboy.gif] and gimme a break with this little inane "2nd in points challenge"... [smiley=pullleeeeeeeze.gif] [smiley=cantcatch.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Oct 17th, 2005, 3:10am Obviously you didn't get the joke... here comes fantasy football xtreme... have fun fighting for 2nd... never mind, steg, the joke has died. I don't think i wrote it clearly, so most of that not being funny was my fault. And while I understand it is a head to head league, I still take pride in being the leader in the mean time (which we aren't yet, but will be) .... what do you cheer for from here till the playoffs? Record? Oh, that is real fun. If you are leading in points, which we soon will be ;) we will brag about it, sorry, that is our nature. Personally, i love leagues that focus on both. Winning a Super Bowl isn't as hard as winning a points title, and whether this league welcomes that category or not, I'm gonna rub it in when we are on top. Have fun skipping over those messages, steg! :P Have fun "fighting for 2nd in points" and for 2nd best record, how is that steggy? - Smitty :) |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by FFXtreme on Oct 23rd, 2005, 4:36am 43 points so far (Friday Night)... good luck today, fellas! - Smitty |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Dec 13th, 2005, 3:39am on 10/23/05 at 04:36:39, FFXtreme wrote:
Way to go, dude! ;) ... [smiley=cantcatch.gif] |
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Title: Re: Xtreme JunkyardJake.com Experts League Post by StegRock on Dec 28th, 2005, 12:26am A BIG CONGRATULATIONS to this year's "Daily Double" Champion... Eric Logan of FantasyFootballTimes.com, who won both the head-to-head [smiley=trophy.gif] Championship and the total points [smiley=king.gif] Crown. A GREAT job by a team that never gave up even though he was dealt a tough hand schedule-wise. [smiley=twothumbsup.gif] ... [smiley=bow.gif] |
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